Hello all, I am looking for any information regarding a William Page born Mar 1 1881 son of Joseph Page and Margaret Patterson Page in Whiteabbey. Anyone connect at all?????????????????? They were still there in 1883 when another son was born. Could anyone in Belfast check a directory for that time and find an address or if anyone has access to the 1901 census for Whiteabbey can check for the PAGE family. It would be appreciated more than you can imagine. Jackie Canada -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.8/61 - Release Date: 01/08/2005

Thanks Alma, I have two LDS centres nearby. I live near Ipswich so Burpengary is a longish drive but if I have to go there I will. Thanks again Bob

Thanks for your advise Al. The marriage can not be found on the on-line IGI so I thought that the LDS didn't have a record of it. Thanks to you too Alma. I live in Brisbane. I'm pretty sure they were Church of Ireland. I'll give my local LDS centre a ring. Bob in Oz

Hello Bob, If this is a RC marriage you will not find it on the Index. RC marriages were recorded from 1864. However, Protestant marriages were recorded from 1845. Once you have consulted the index films at the LDS, you will be able to order the film to copy the marriage record. Where do you live in Australia? Alma.....Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Ollier" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 7:21 PM Subject: [BELFAST] Help required with marriage > Hi all, > > Is there anyone on the list who lives in Belfast and may be able to trace > info on the marriage of Catherine Miller to James McGaghey about 1848-52. > I live in Australia so it's a bit difficult for me to go into GRONI!! > > Bob in Oz > > > ==== IRL-BELFAST-CITY Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a new e-mail with the word - unsubscribe - as the > only one in the body of the message to ~ > [email protected] replacing the -L- with a -D- if in > 'Digest' mode. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Hi all, Is there anyone on the list who lives in Belfast and may be able to trace info on the marriage of Catherine Miller to James McGaghey about 1848-52. I live in Australia so it's a bit difficult for me to go into GRONI!! Bob in Oz

Hello Bob in Oz, I am not in Belfast but I know that civil registrations for marriage started in 1845. If you have a local family history centre (LDS) near you, they often have the index films on microfilm. That would enable you to find the exact year, and from that you would be able to order the LDS Film giving you the marriage record or failing that to order the certificate from Dublin. Hope this helps. Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Ollier" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 4:21 AM Subject: [BELFAST] Help required with marriage > Hi all, > > Is there anyone on the list who lives in Belfast and may be able to trace info on the marriage of Catherine Miller to James McGaghey about 1848-52. I live in Australia so it's a bit difficult for me to go into GRONI!! > > Bob in Oz > > > ==== IRL-BELFAST-CITY Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a new e-mail with the word - unsubscribe - as the only one in the body of the message to ~ [email protected] replacing the -L- with a -D- if in 'Digest' mode. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Hi everyone, I am writing to inform all on this mailing list that the following records have been added to the Lurgan Ancestry Website at; www.lurganancestry.net 1. The complete 1959 Lurgan directory (approx. 5,000 names) 2. Lurgan directory of 1918 (approx. 1,000 names) 3. The 1755 rental lists of Lurgan (200 names) These, are added to an already extensive list of records, freely available for anyone to copy or use. There is also an in site search engine to find any surnames that you require. Many hours of work and dedication have went toward the research, data input and maintenance of this website by many genealogist and historians of the Lurgan area. Many thanks and regards. Martin. Lurgan Ancestry. N. Ireland

congradulations Andy and Margaret!!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Airriess" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 8:02 PM Subject: [BELFAST] Miracles do happen! > Listers, > > After years and years, I've finally met the person of my dreams. Her name > is Margaret and she is a fellow Belfast lister. We have quite a budding > relationship. I've been dreaming, longing for this moment for the last 6 > years. We just met, yet it feels like we've always been connected somehow. > . since 1820 anyway. You see, she's my FOURTH COUSIN! > > We just made the connection yesterday. She is the very first person I've > met on the web I'm actually related to. Well, she's the first person who > would ADMIT to being related to me. > > We hope to have many happy years together. Getting together should not be > too hard. Although she is nearly a thousand miles away from me, she lives > just two miles from my brother-in-law (really!). > > Andy Airriess > > > ==== IRL-BELFAST-CITY Mailing List ==== > The list archives can be searched or browsed at ~ > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-BELFAST-CITY.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

1877 Belfast Street Directory excerpt on my web site at the link below. Alternatively type Jean McCarthy into the Google search engine for a direct link. A very kind friend of genealogy named Agnes has kindly sent me an excerpt from the 1877 Belfast Street Directory. There are over 350 names on the list. The streets included are Urney Street Lower, Utility Street, Valentine Street, Ventry Street and Vere Street. Thank you so very much indeed Agnes for sharing this wonderful information with us all. I hope some of you might find some family members amongst these names. Kind Regards. Jean McCarthy nee Moore. Staffordshire, England. My own main names of interest: MOORE, (Ireland, Canada & Australia) BOWDEN, (Ireland, New Zealand, Tasmania & Australia) HAWTHORNE. (Ireland and Pennsylvania) In Co Down, Co Armagh & Co Antrim Ireland: McCALLISTER, McAULEY, FLINN, STRAIN, SPRATT, McCLENAGHAN & KENNEDY. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36/

Dear Brian, Thank you for these transcriptions. I have added them to my lists of useful (to me) links. Every bit helps. Can we redo the old saying and say "An obit in time saves nine"? Cheers,

Church Photos on my web site at the link below. Alternatively type Jean McCarthy into the Google search engine for a direct link. I have added eight more church photographs (various views) to the church photos pages on my web site. These have been kindly donated by Jerry and Charlotte in Alabama USA. The new photos are: Ballywillan Presbyterian Church as well as a photo of the minister in 1996. Agherton C of I Portstewart, also a shot of the notice board. The old Agherton Church Portstewart and a shot of the adjacent cemetery. St. Patrick’s Church Coleraine a view of the exterior and one of the interior. Thank you so very much indeed Jerry and Charlotte for sharing these wonderful photographs with us all. To view Jerry and Charlotte’s page of church photos, click on church photos and you will see the link to their page near the top of the page. I have also updated the list of church names whose photos are on my web site. The link to the list is in red text near the top of the first page of Church photos. You can follow the other links to view many other church photos. Kind Regards. Jean McCarthy nee Moore. Staffordshire, England. My own main names of interest: MOORE, (Ireland, Canada & Australia) BOWDEN, (Ireland, New Zealand, Tasmania & Australia) HAWTHORNE. (Ireland and Pennsylvania) In Co Down, Co Armagh & Co Antrim Ireland: McCALLISTER, McAULEY, FLINN, STRAIN, SPRATT, McCLENAGHAN & KENNEDY. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36/

Hello Louie I wonder whether the Bingham you mention is related to Sophia and Eva. Jane

I think you may be right that in his late teens this was the case but he certainly brought his family up to be non drinkers. Also know that two of his sisters were definitely non drinkers all their life. Or maybe he was trying to impress those he had left behind in Belfast while he travelled south with his friends. Two of the postcards were to his girlfriend who later became his wife. The postcards are really interesting with one a true "Irish" one saying: "If you don't receive this postcard let me know and I will send another one" etc etc. Yes it was posted and still has the halfpenny stamp on and it was posted at Portadown Sept 24 1909. They are such a treasure these postcards. Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Oddie Brown" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [BELFAST] 'Over-ripe' - Turpentine - Poteen > Dear Judith, > It may be worth knowing that not all branches of Presbyterianism eschewed > drinking in the 1800s. Perhaps yours were quite comfortable with both > religion and drink. > Cheers, > Sharon Oddie Brown > Roberts Creek, BC, Canada > http://www.user.dccnet.com/s.brown/index.html > > > > ==== IRL-BELFAST-CITY Mailing List ==== > Under no circumstances should VIRUS/HOAX/CHAIN warnings/messages be sent to the list. They have nothing to do with genealogy/family history. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Hi, I am looking for any information on Capt. John Henry Shields. He was my Uncle and worked for the Electricity Board back in 1947. I am looking for his Grave and date of death. His Father, John, Brother, Robert William, sister Agnes Nellie & Nephew George Bingham, are all buried Lot Number B251.Knockbreda Church Rd. Newtownbreda. If some one has the listings of Belfast Graveyards would you please do a look up for me. Thank you in advance Louie Dunn

Thank you to all who have replied to my query re "Turpentine" I think Jane has convinced me that my non drinking Presbyterian grandfather and his siblings may have had a "dodgy" past as the Aussies would say. Maybe religion took a hold after a bad bout of poteen.!! Once again many thanks to all. Judith

Dear Brian, I AM sorry if i am imposing on you , but if it would,t be too much trouble to check the BRANIFF name as i have tried so hard to find my ancestors with not much luck I would appreciate any help. many thanks Ellen{BRANIFF]De Souter They came from around the Ards Peninsula Co Down N I They were shipbuilders. They were presbyterian religion ,after 1845 they settled in belfast

Hi All I now have birth records for the Rosemary Street Church in Belfast Ireland. The records start in 1822 and I am up to 1825. I have also added some more marriage records for the same church. If you want to see them go to http://www.ancestorsatrest.com/england.shtml Thanks and good hunting. Brian. Ancestors At Rest. __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

Dear Brian, Great stuff! Thank you for doing this. Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada http://www.user.dccnet.com/s.brown/index.html

Dear Judith, It may be worth knowing that not all branches of Presbyterianism eschewed drinking in the 1800s. Perhaps yours were quite comfortable with both religion and drink. Cheers, Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada http://www.user.dccnet.com/s.brown/index.html

Judith, I've seen your message where you say that it is said that the person involved did not take alcohol....... and everyone else suggesting that he was speaking of alcohol. Something else besides turpentine springs out from the wording on your postcard that makes me think the reference most likely is to alcohol and a specific type. Poteen. The something else being the use of the word's 'over-ripe', 'dry at present' Poteen is/was a home brew, illegal, made from potatoes - and it could at times be described as over-ripe, when not fully mature, then possibly dry might be a way that it was described. It's either good or it's bad, and a lot depends/depended on the person who made it, their skill and still! - and it has to be allowed mature - like whiskey Turpentine is a word as everyone else has said that can be/was used to describe alcohol - particularly stong alcohol, which is what poteen definitely is. Poteen, for those of you familiar with the word, but unfamiliar with the drink would be like the German Austrian Schnapps - sometimes stronger. Maybe more like a really strong rum pot - alcohol content wise Jane X-Message: #1 Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 09:46:19 +1000 >From: "Judith and Graeme Collins" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: "Turpentine Early 1900's" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Recently I was given some postcards from around 1908-1912. One was written down Co. Limerick possibly Kilmallock area and it says. I quote "Plenty of turpentine but very dry at present" also another one from Newbridge Co. Kildare, quoting: "This is our first call for some turpentine" and another one from Killarney " Plenty of Turpintine about here and it is not overripe here yet"