I am trying to find where in Ireland Andrew Moore's family may have lived before they came to America in 1723 in the hope that I can connect the Boyd family of Mary Elizabeth Boyd to the same location in Ireland. It is thought that this Boyd family came to Lancaster Co., PA and them moved onto York Co., PA. This Mary Elizabeth Boyd "should" have been born in Ireland, as it is thought the family did not come to America until the 1730's S1 Mary Elizabeth Boyd, b / /1721 ( ), d / /17xx ( ), bu , m / /173x (church, place), William Moore, Sr., son of Andrew and Margaret (nee Wilson) Moore, b / /1710 ( ), d / /1798 ( ), bu , and had issue:- [Lived: ] - Did this family also come to the USA? T1 William Moore, Jr., b /1736 ( ), d / /1791 ( ), bu , m / /175x (church, place), Mary Drake, dau of and (nee ) Drake, b / /17xx ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- [Lived: ] U1 Robert Moore, b / /1758 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m ? [Lived: ] U2 Margaret Moore, b / /1760 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m / /1784 (church, place), William Montgomery, son of and (nee ) Montgomery, b / /1756 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- [Lived: ] U3 Amos Moore, b / /1762 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m / /1786 (church, place), Sarah Foreman, dau of and (nee ) Foreman, b / /1764 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- [Lived: ] U4 Anna Moore, b / /1764 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m / /1786 (church, place), Colonel William Alexander, son of and (nee ) Alexander, b / /1767 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- ? [Lived: ] U5 Janet Moore, b / /1766 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m / /1786 (church, place), Mr Kelly, son of and (nee ) Kelly, b / /1765 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- ? [Lived: ] U6 Mary Moore, b / /1768 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m / /1788 (church, place), Mr Starr, son of and (nee ) Starr, b / /1765 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- ? [Lived: ] U7 Temperance Moore, b / /1770 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m / /1790 ( church, place), Mr Dunlop, son of and (nee ) Dunlop, b / /1768 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- ? [Lived: ] U8 James Moore, b / /1772 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m / /1793 (church, place), Miss Cooper, dau of and (nee ) Cooper, b / /1773 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- [Lived: ] - Is this Miss Cooper a relative of S5's wife? Thank you for your assistance. Mike Boyd

Hi Mike Boyd, Andrew Moore is an ancestor of my husband. We have included a chapter in the book I published in 1991 on the Moore family. Andrew Moore lived in Ballymena, County Antrim, Ireland. He was born 1688 and died 1753. He married Margaret Miller. They came to America and we have visited his home in Chester Co., PA. The Quaker church he helped to establish was in Lancaster Co., PA. Is this the same Andrew Moore you are researching? A sign in front of his home says, "Greenwood Forge - Home of Andrew Moore - 1723 to 1753" Elizabeth Whitten ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com>; <BOYD@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 12:23 AM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Andrew Moore and Margaret Wilson's family of "Ireland" >I am trying to find where in Ireland Andrew Moore's family may have lived > before they came to America in 1723 in the hope that I can connect the > Boyd > family of Mary Elizabeth Boyd to the same location in Ireland. > > It is thought that this Boyd family came to Lancaster Co., PA and them > moved > onto York Co., PA. This Mary Elizabeth Boyd "should" have been born in > Ireland, as it is thought the family did not come to America until the > 1730's > S1 Mary Elizabeth Boyd, b / /1721 ( ), d / /17xx ( ), bu , m / /173x > (church, place), William Moore, Sr., son of Andrew and Margaret (nee > Wilson) > Moore, b / /1710 ( ), d / /1798 ( ), bu , and had issue:- > > [Lived: ] > > - Did this family also come to the USA? > > T1 William Moore, Jr., b /1736 ( ), d / /1791 ( ), bu , m / /175x (church, > place), Mary Drake, dau of and (nee ) Drake, b / /17xx ( ), d / /18xx ( ), > bu , and had issue:- > > [Lived: ] > > U1 Robert Moore, b / /1758 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m ? > > [Lived: ] > > U2 Margaret Moore, b / /1760 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m / /1784 (church, > place), William Montgomery, son of and (nee ) Montgomery, b / /1756 ( ), d > / > /18xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- > > [Lived: ] > > U3 Amos Moore, b / /1762 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m / /1786 (church, > place), > Sarah Foreman, dau of and (nee ) Foreman, b / /1764 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu > , > and had issue:- > > [Lived: ] > > U4 Anna Moore, b / /1764 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m / /1786 (church, > place), > Colonel William Alexander, son of and (nee ) Alexander, b / /1767 ( ), d / > /18xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- ? > > [Lived: ] > > U5 Janet Moore, b / /1766 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m / /1786 (church, > place), Mr Kelly, son of and (nee ) Kelly, b / /1765 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), > bu > , and had issue:- ? > > [Lived: ] > > U6 Mary Moore, b / /1768 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m / /1788 (church, > place), > Mr Starr, son of and (nee ) Starr, b / /1765 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , and > had issue:- ? > > [Lived: ] > > U7 Temperance Moore, b / /1770 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m / /1790 ( > church, > place), Mr Dunlop, son of and (nee ) Dunlop, b / /1768 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), > bu , and had issue:- ? > > [Lived: ] > > U8 James Moore, b / /1772 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m / /1793 (church, > place), Miss Cooper, dau of and (nee ) Cooper, b / /1773 ( ), d / /18xx > ( ), > bu , and had issue:- > > [Lived: ] > > - Is this Miss Cooper a relative of S5's wife? > > Thank you for your assistance. > > > > Mike Boyd > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.17/661 - Release Date: 1/30/2007 > >

Elizabeth Thank you I am about to go to bed and in the morning I have to help my son lay 500 meters of lawn, so it may not be until Saturday that I can reply in detail to you. I will attach the file with Chapter 6/302 in it, so that you can check to see if it links with what you know about your Moore family. If the Moore's were Quakers, it would mean that the Boyds were as well. I have a large FILE on the Moore's of Antrim who come form the Muir's of Rowallan, Ayrshire. What town in Lancaster Co., PA did James establish the Quaker Church? I will be going to Ballycastle and Ballymena in March, so this family will go to the top of the list. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Whitten" <ewhitten2@comcast.net> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Andrew Moore and Margaret Wilson's family of"Ireland" > Hi Mike Boyd, > > Andrew Moore is an ancestor of my husband. We have included a chapter in > the > book I published in 1991 on the Moore family. Andrew Moore lived in > Ballymena, County Antrim, Ireland. He was born 1688 and died 1753. He > married Margaret Miller. They came to America and we have visited his home > in Chester Co., PA. The Quaker church he helped to establish was in > Lancaster Co., PA. Is this the same Andrew Moore you are researching? A > sign > in front of his home says, "Greenwood Forge - Home of Andrew Moore - 1723 > to > 1753" > > Elizabeth Whitten > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> > To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com>; <BOYD@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 12:23 AM > Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Andrew Moore and Margaret Wilson's family of > "Ireland" > > >>I am trying to find where in Ireland Andrew Moore's family may have lived >> before they came to America in 1723 in the hope that I can connect the >> Boyd >> family of Mary Elizabeth Boyd to the same location in Ireland. >> >> It is thought that this Boyd family came to Lancaster Co., PA and them >> moved >> onto York Co., PA. This Mary Elizabeth Boyd "should" have been born in >> Ireland, as it is thought the family did not come to America until the >> 1730's >> S1 Mary Elizabeth Boyd, b / /1721 ( ), d / /17xx ( ), bu , m / /173x >> (church, place), William Moore, Sr., son of Andrew and Margaret (nee >> Wilson) >> Moore, b / /1710 ( ), d / /1798 ( ), bu , and had issue:- >> >> [Lived: ] >> >> - Did this family also come to the USA? >> >> T1 William Moore, Jr., b /1736 ( ), d / /1791 ( ), bu , m / /175x >> (church, >> place), Mary Drake, dau of and (nee ) Drake, b / /17xx ( ), d / /18xx >> ( ), >> bu , and had issue:- >> >> [Lived: ] >> >> U1 Robert Moore, b / /1758 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m ? >> >> [Lived: ] >> >> U2 Margaret Moore, b / /1760 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m / /1784 (church, >> place), William Montgomery, son of and (nee ) Montgomery, b / /1756 ( ), >> d >> / >> /18xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- >> >> [Lived: ] >> >> U3 Amos Moore, b / /1762 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m / /1786 (church, >> place), >> Sarah Foreman, dau of and (nee ) Foreman, b / /1764 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), >> bu >> , >> and had issue:- >> >> [Lived: ] >> >> U4 Anna Moore, b / /1764 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m / /1786 (church, >> place), >> Colonel William Alexander, son of and (nee ) Alexander, b / /1767 ( ), d >> / >> /18xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- ? >> >> [Lived: ] >> >> U5 Janet Moore, b / /1766 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m / /1786 (church, >> place), Mr Kelly, son of and (nee ) Kelly, b / /1765 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), >> bu >> , and had issue:- ? >> >> [Lived: ] >> >> U6 Mary Moore, b / /1768 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m / /1788 (church, >> place), >> Mr Starr, son of and (nee ) Starr, b / /1765 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , and >> had issue:- ? >> >> [Lived: ] >> >> U7 Temperance Moore, b / /1770 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m / /1790 ( >> church, >> place), Mr Dunlop, son of and (nee ) Dunlop, b / /1768 ( ), d / /18xx >> ( ), >> bu , and had issue:- ? >> >> [Lived: ] >> >> U8 James Moore, b / /1772 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m / /1793 (church, >> place), Miss Cooper, dau of and (nee ) Cooper, b / /1773 ( ), d / /18xx >> ( ), >> bu , and had issue:- >> >> [Lived: ] >> >> - Is this Miss Cooper a relative of S5's wife? >> >> Thank you for your assistance. >> >> >> >> Mike Boyd >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.17/661 - Release Date: >> 1/30/2007 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

CB07028 26 Blackhorse Drive Kuraby QLD 4112 Brisbane Australia 3 February 2007 Dear Elizabeth Thank you for your Email of 1 February 2007 to me on Andrew Moore's family whose son William married Mary Elizabeth Boyd most likely in PA. If I do not write this reply down as a letter I will quickly forget what I have told you. Hopefully, you will have will have been able to have a look at chapter 6/302, that I sent you on Thursday, to confirm if it is the same Moore family that you are looking at. The original source, did not give any locations, but only names and dates, so hopefully you have been able to match some of William and Mary Elizabeth's children to your known family to confirm that they are the same family. I have yet to find out why the Muir/Mure name in Ayrshire was changed to Moore in Ireland. I have been told, privately, Nevin Taggert, that the Quakers did not arrive in Ireland until 1654. I will see what else I can find out about them when I visit the Ballymena Library and in Ayrshire in March 2007 - during my visit. I can only assume that non-Quakers became Quakers in the mid 1600's In chapter 7/363 - BOYD OF MURE OF ROWALLAN, AYRSHIRE I have an outline of the family of Margaret Boyd and John Mure who were married in the 1490's. This Margaret was the granddaughter of the first Lord Robert Boyd and mistress to King James IV. Part of this family - Sir William Mure [Q1] was very much for the Covenanters. However, I am not sure if this might be where the connection to the Quaker Church comes form or not. This chapter is outlined in FILE W76588JB.doc and starts on page 5. Most of the remaining chapters in this file come from this family as well. You will also notice the various comments by different authors on the religious conflicts the family had on pages 9 & 10. However when I was typing them up I have the impression it was an Church of Ireland family rather than Quaker The Moores of Ireland would appear to stem from Sir William Mure's younger brother [Q2] Capt Alexander Mure, b / /161x ( ), kc / /1648 in Ireland. Page 11. I had assumed that this was somehow connected to the 1641 uprising but have learnt that there was also conflict in the late 1640's in Ireland between the King and Parliament and the List officers called 49ers. So he may have come as part of that conflict and stayed. When I was in Ireland in 2005, I copied some of the Bennett's book - North Antrim Families, 1974 - for the Boyd families which allowed me to compile the families from 7/363 to 7/369. However, recently I was sent a file on CD-Rom which has all of Bennett's book, but I have not had time to go back to get the missing pages, I need to complete some of these families. But I do not think that will help with the earlier generations in Ireland. When I will be in Ayrshire, I will be stopping across the Road from the present Lord Rowallan, so I am hoping to be able to talk to him why part of the family moved to Ireland - land or religion I have just found where Bennett said that the Mures came from Ayrshire:- "Practically all the lines of the family have the same story to tell, luckily with more detail in some cases than in others. The tale goes that a Mure patriarch arrived from Ayrshire with the magic number of 7 sons to settle in the Ballymoriey district in the 1640s. From one or other of the 7 sons descend all the Moores in that area. Some branches did well, siring the grander lines , others' descendants sank in worldly standing. One story has it that the family rowed over from Scotland in an open boat, so perhaps they didn't have too far to fall! Most lines, however, agree that the patriarch was the cadet of a noble family, related to the Scottish Royal Family." I am not sure if "Ballymoriey" is actually Ballmoney. But this patriarch would "appear" to be Captain Alexander Mure. From my quick reading. However, I am not sure if James Moore, Sr., of Ireland - whose daughter married John Boyd (Q1) could be one of these seven sons or not. Now to the Boyd/Moore connection. You will have already seem earlier connection to James Moore. So I am not sure if we have one or two Moore families connections to this Boyd family in chapter 6/302.. >From this Captain Adam Boyd. In chapter 6/302, you would have noticed the two IGI entries for Calead, Antrim. While in chapter 4/248 it is called Golead Par., Co. Antrim. I have been told that these are not the correct names but it is the Parish where the International Airport is just south of Antrim Town. There were Boyds in this area in the 1659 Irish Census. So it will be interesting to see if they are Quakers or not. In Chapter 4/248 Boyd of Perry Co., PA, I have been given an outline done on early Boyds in County York, PA by Richard Boswell in 1998. This goes back to an John Boyd and Agnes Cooper who you will notice are S5 in chapter 6/302. Thus suggesting a LINK BETWEEN THE TWO FAMILIES. I also know that an Quaker Boyd family of John Boyd and Jane Bell lived at Warrington Twp., in York Co., PA. So there could be an Quaker link hear as well. This family is partly outlined in FILE W46588GK.doc. While on pages 27-28 are a list of about 20 people researching this family. However, form my reading of this material form Richard Boswell, he does not suggest that the family is Quaker. Nor does he seem to give an religion in later generations. I will have to Email the Boyd@rootsweb.com to see if I can find what religion this family of Thomas Boyd and Margaret SHANNON were. Cumberland Co was formed form Lancaster Co., PA in 1750, while York Co., PA was also formed form Lancaster Co., PA in 1749. I have found some 16 Boyd families for Lancaster Co., PA so far and I know that there is a good number of Boyds in York Co., PA as well. Perhaps you may know form Richard's "early history" if your Moore family moved along the same path or not. Because of the link with John Boyd and Agnes Cooper, I have always suspected that this family in chapter 4/248 is linked to that of Captain Adam Boyd but had no evidence to combine them, except these two names. In chapter 4/208, Boyd of Octorara, Chester Co., PA who comes form a Rev Adam Boyd a Presbyterian Minister. He is the fourth Adam Boyd - with the first being Capt Adam. So this family would appear to be come down form a second son of Capt Adam Boyd. This is in FILE W46588GA.doc and starts on page 15. This family came from Ballymoney, Co Antrim. I will also include the family of John Boyd and Jane Bell from Ballynccree, near Ballymoney. This is outlined in chapter 5/254 in FILE W56588HA.doc starting on page 32. Under John Boyd [R1] it this list movement in the USA:- "John Boyd produced a certificate dated 10 February 1736, for himself, wife Jane and children, from Ballynacree Monthly Meeting of Friends near Ballymoney, Antrim county, Province of Ulster, Ireland, to New Garden Monthly Meeting, Chester county, Pa 26 December 1736-7. They became members of Sadsbury Meeting. At Warrington Monthly Meeting, York county, Pa., 9 November 1765, a certificate dated 21 August 1765, from Sadsbury Monthly Meeting was received for John Boyd and wife." So you can see they also finished up in Warrington Twp. I am not sure if any conclusions can be drawn form this. And this family is Quaker. One of the daughters was removed form the Church for marrying a non-Quaker. So I am not sure, at this time, if these Boyd families will help you or confuse you. Hopefully you can make a link to family of William Moore and Mary Elizabeth Boyd. Which Quaker Church - town - did Andrew Moore establish in Lancaster Co., PA? So there may be two links to the Boyds. One through William Moore being an descendant of the Mures of Rowallan and the second through Mary Elizabeth Boyd. If you can prove an connection in the Moore/Mures, that will take you back to pre 1,200 on the Mure/Boyd side. Yes I would like to get any additional details of William and Mary Elizabeth's family and descendants details to include as a new family chapter in Volume 10 of Clan Boyd of Scotland. It would help me to link future families into yours. Clan Boyd of Scotland is a collection of Boyd families in a effort to build a pyramid of the Clan. The bases of these family chapters is to show a families origins; include the known details; sources of the information; any books/publications on the family and list known researchers or possible researchers (type of family Research Group). The third Edition of Clan Boyd of Scotland will be in linking those families that have finally made the connection to the Kilmarnock family. I think at present I only have 2 or 3 such families, so I might leave that task to someone else and just collect Boyd families. The information I would ideally like to be able to include are full names (including common name); date and place of birth, death and marriage (incl. church); place of burial; to whom married; spouses parents, children; and where they lived. This format also allows for a small history to be included on each individual. The initial draft need not have all this information and it is more important to list children and other descendants etc. The best way is to send it to me electronically as I am not the world's fastest typist. When you send that, I could then type it up and send it back to you to ensure that I have it correctly layout It is on Word processing in Word for Windows 2 so allows you to add what you like. Depending on your objective, it can be used as a research tool to record what you have done to find information about an individual; as an appendix to a family history or as I am doing just a straight genealogy and recording who were members of the Clan. My aim as said above is to build a pyramid of the Clan which will make it much easier for people to fit their family into the Clan. I think the above details for each Boyd descendant will help build the Clan Pyramid. I would like to get your full postal address please, so I can pass on your name to others when I think I might get an match. Are you aware of any other Boyd researchers who I might be able to include on my researcher's list as well please. Especially your Boyd cousins. The details I would like to include here are :- NAME OF RESEARCHER; ADDRESS; EARLIEST KNOWN DATE; EARLIEST KNOWN LOCATION; AND EARLIEST KNOWN NAME; And when I have a connection to a family, I include the family chapter number. In this case chapter 10/52x. You may not be aware that there is an Boyd Net group called BOYD@rootsweb.com. You join it the same way as any other roostweb group. It is quite active. Although many of the list members come from the USA, so you get a bit of material on the USA. However, they all have to come back to Ireland or Scotland at some time. There are several hundred people on this list, some of whom may be able to help you more directly than I can on a given issue. Perhaps if you were to send a message for each of the first few generation families that you have, it may help to make other connections to your family. You would need to put as much details as you know, (been told, etc.) on the parents and children of each family, their dates, locations, etc. Or outline what your objectives are in your researching. The House of Boyd society have our own:- - surname Net Group at BOYD@rootsweb.com - quarterly Newsletter called Dean Road (contact Kevin McLachlan - editor@clanboyd.org) - a new issue is due out next week - DNA Group - House of Boyd Society - the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org - Historical Committee - family database If you would like more details on these I can pass them along to you. In my role as Chairman of the historical Committee, I have been collecting Boyd families from all over the World and have about 380 at present. I will be leaving Brisbane on 7 March 2007 to go for four weeks to Ballycastle and Ballymena and them to Kilmanrock to collect Boyd families. When I went in 2005, I came home with 6 or 7 inches of material, estimated to include some 200-300 Boyd families. I still have quite a lot to learn about Irish History and how it may affect the spread of Boyd families to Ireland and those that later left to go to America, Canada, Australia, etc. I look forward to hearing from you so your family can be put in the Clan Boyd Pyramid. Kind regards Mike Boyd Chairman Historical Committee, HOBS Elizabeth Whitten USA ewitten2@comcast.net Incl: W76588JB.doc; W46588GK.doc; W46588GA.doc and W56588HA.doc