Murray, My response was just directed at Janet's query. Have you got ruddy cheeks? ;) _http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/flynn/origins.htm_ (http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/flynn/origins.htm) _http://www.magoo.com/hugh/dalaraide.html_ (http://www.magoo.com/hugh/dalaraide.html) _http://www.magoo.com/hugh/annals.html_ (http://www.magoo.com/hugh/annals.html) Regards Nevin