Hi Gordon, Sorry for my ignorance what is the Ulster Covenant for ?(is there anywhere I can read it?) where you made to sign it? What where the consequences for not signing it. Any information or reading materials would be greatly appreciated. Sharon -----Original Message----- From: irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gordon crooks Sent: 29 January 2007 12:52 To: irl-antrim@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The "Wee Three" Cliff: It was the year 1911, I have a copy copy of it and can send it to you if you want. Gordon Crooks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff. Johnston" <moments-in-time@houston.rr.com> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The "Wee Three" > Pam, > > Thanks. What year is the Ulster Covenant for? > > Cliff. Johnston > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see;" > from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pam Craven" <pamcraven@mynow.co.uk> > To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 6:34 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The > "Wee > Three" > > >> Cliff >> >> Have you tried this site for N Ireland >> >> http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ >> >> It is free to join you can even look at messages but not post a message >> or >> reply unless you join. It is lots of general and useful info linked to >> it >> also. So a message to the County Antrim list may help or admin may tell >> you >> how to post a message to all of the subsidiary lists. >> >> >> I looked at the Ulster Covenant to see where Johnstons may be and there >> were >> over 5000 for Johnston and 188 for Johnstone! So searched for Archibald >> in >> case it was a family name and came up with these? >> >> Surname, forename, address, parliamentary division, district, place of >> signing, agent. >> >> Johnston, Archibald, Lisanymore, Cavan: East, Bailieborough, Billis, >> Wallace, W : Reverend >> Johnston, Archibald, 58 Argyle Street, Belfast: West, Shankill, Albert >> Hall, >> Shannon, William >> >> Not sure if any of this is any use? >> >> Pam >> -----Original Message----- >> From: irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cliff. Johnston >> Sent: 28 January 2007 15:43 >> To: irl-antrim@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The >> "Wee >> Three" >> >> Pam, >> >> There are several considerations in looking for a will in Ireland. >> >> First, the oral family history that I have about the sailor visiting my >> ggrandfather came from his neice who was a girl at the time and visiting >> her >> >> uncle, my ggrandfather. She answered the door and overheard parts of the >> conversation. She didn't know what happened after as my ggrandfather was >> away visiting kin at the time. So I don't know if it was our family, or >> if >> the sailor returned or went to find my ggrandfather. It is somewhat >> coincidental and curiosity-raising though that James moved to a >> significantly better farm shortly thereafter. In addtion when 2 of my >> Dad's >> >> aunts visited Ireland in the 1920's they found all of our kin deceased - >> no >> one now knows where though - very frustrating. >> >> Secondly, we don't know what the name of the deceased family member in >> Ireland was or where he lived. >> >> Cliff. Johnston >> "May the best you've ever seen, >> Be the worst you'll ever see;" >> from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pam Craven" <pamcraven@mynow.co.uk> >> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:34 AM >> Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The >> "Wee >> Three" >> >> >>> If someone came looking via a solicitor then I assume there was maybe a >>> will. Worth checking to see if any Will exists via Belfast ro Dublin >>> ecord >>> office I assume? >>> >>> Pam >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd >>> Sent: 28 January 2007 00:40 >>> To: irl-antrim@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The >>> "Wee >>> Three" >>> >>> Cliff >>> What other Canadian information have your found on the three brothers in >>> Canada? - Death certificatees, Census entries, newspaper reports of >>> their >>> deaths, etc. Even on reports of the 50th or 100th aniversiary of the >>> County >>> >>> may have something on where the family came from in Ireland. >>> >>> You did not say what religion they were? Check the local County history >>> to >>> see if any other famileis or Minister's came in this period. This MAY >>> give >>> you the general background to see where your family came from. So if >>> the >>> county history says that people from Belfast, Ballymoney, etc came in >>> certain years, those towns regions maybe an starting point. >>> >>> Mike Boyd >>> Brisbane >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Cliff. Johnston" <moments-in-time@houston.rr.com> >>> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:25 AM >>> Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The "Wee >>> Three" >>> >>> >>>> We have no locations in Ireland for any of the Wee Three; however, >>>> various sources of oral family history have them coming from all over >>>> the >>>> island - Ballymena, Londonderry, Tarra, Co. Donegal and Co. Cork being >>>> mentioned. To make matters even more frustrating is that in the 1920's >>>> 2 >>>> of my Dad's aunts visited Ireland, found all of our Johnston kin buried >>>> (none surviving), made a journal containing their burial details, and >>>> now >>>> no one knows what happened to the journal or where the 2 sisters >>>> visited. >>>> >>>> Ca. 1905-1910 a sailor came to my ggrandfather's farm searching for a >>>> Johnston. He had been hired by a solicitor in Ireland. The last of >>>> our >>>> Johnstons had died leaving no surviving kin in Ireland and a small >>>> estate. >>> >>>> He may have been a pub owner. My grandfather moved about this time to >>>> a >>>> better farm in Clarence Twp., Russell Co., Ontario, Canada, on what is >>>> now >>> >>>> Johnston Road. >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Sharo I'm not sure if you checked this website but all the information you require will be on it. Basically the people who signed the covenant wanted to stay British. (http://www.proni.gov.uk/ulstercovenant/index.html) John -----Original Message----- From: irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ITS SALES Sent: 29 January 2007 15:35 To: irl-antrim@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The "Wee Three" Hi Gordon, Sorry for my ignorance what is the Ulster Covenant for ?(is there anywhere I can read it?) where you made to sign it? What where the consequences for not signing it. Any information or reading materials would be greatly appreciated. Sharon -----Original Message----- From: irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gordon crooks Sent: 29 January 2007 12:52 To: irl-antrim@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The "Wee Three" Cliff: It was the year 1911, I have a copy copy of it and can send it to you if you want. Gordon Crooks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff. Johnston" <moments-in-time@houston.rr.com> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The "Wee Three" > Pam, > > Thanks. What year is the Ulster Covenant for? > > Cliff. Johnston > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see;" > from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pam Craven" <pamcraven@mynow.co.uk> > To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 6:34 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The > "Wee > Three" > > >> Cliff >> >> Have you tried this site for N Ireland >> >> http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ >> >> It is free to join you can even look at messages but not post a message >> or >> reply unless you join. It is lots of general and useful info linked to >> it >> also. So a message to the County Antrim list may help or admin may tell >> you >> how to post a message to all of the subsidiary lists. >> >> >> I looked at the Ulster Covenant to see where Johnstons may be and there >> were >> over 5000 for Johnston and 188 for Johnstone! So searched for Archibald >> in >> case it was a family name and came up with these? >> >> Surname, forename, address, parliamentary division, district, place of >> signing, agent. >> >> Johnston, Archibald, Lisanymore, Cavan: East, Bailieborough, Billis, >> Wallace, W : Reverend >> Johnston, Archibald, 58 Argyle Street, Belfast: West, Shankill, Albert >> Hall, >> Shannon, William >> >> Not sure if any of this is any use? >> >> Pam >> -----Original Message----- >> From: irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cliff. Johnston >> Sent: 28 January 2007 15:43 >> To: irl-antrim@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The >> "Wee >> Three" >> >> Pam, >> >> There are several considerations in looking for a will in Ireland. >> >> First, the oral family history that I have about the sailor visiting my >> ggrandfather came from his neice who was a girl at the time and visiting >> her >> >> uncle, my ggrandfather. She answered the door and overheard parts of the >> conversation. She didn't know what happened after as my ggrandfather was >> away visiting kin at the time. So I don't know if it was our family, or >> if >> the sailor returned or went to find my ggrandfather. It is somewhat >> coincidental and curiosity-raising though that James moved to a >> significantly better farm shortly thereafter. In addtion when 2 of my >> Dad's >> >> aunts visited Ireland in the 1920's they found all of our kin deceased - >> no >> one now knows where though - very frustrating. >> >> Secondly, we don't know what the name of the deceased family member in >> Ireland was or where he lived. >> >> Cliff. Johnston >> "May the best you've ever seen, >> Be the worst you'll ever see;" >> from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pam Craven" <pamcraven@mynow.co.uk> >> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:34 AM >> Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The >> "Wee >> Three" >> >> >>> If someone came looking via a solicitor then I assume there was maybe a >>> will. Worth checking to see if any Will exists via Belfast ro Dublin >>> ecord >>> office I assume? >>> >>> Pam >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd >>> Sent: 28 January 2007 00:40 >>> To: irl-antrim@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The >>> "Wee >>> Three" >>> >>> Cliff >>> What other Canadian information have your found on the three brothers in >>> Canada? - Death certificatees, Census entries, newspaper reports of >>> their >>> deaths, etc. Even on reports of the 50th or 100th aniversiary of the >>> County >>> >>> may have something on where the family came from in Ireland. >>> >>> You did not say what religion they were? Check the local County history >>> to >>> see if any other famileis or Minister's came in this period. This MAY >>> give >>> you the general background to see where your family came from. So if >>> the >>> county history says that people from Belfast, Ballymoney, etc came in >>> certain years, those towns regions maybe an starting point. >>> >>> Mike Boyd >>> Brisbane >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Cliff. Johnston" <moments-in-time@houston.rr.com> >>> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:25 AM >>> Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The "Wee >>> Three" >>> >>> >>>> We have no locations in Ireland for any of the Wee Three; however, >>>> various sources of oral family history have them coming from all over >>>> the >>>> island - Ballymena, Londonderry, Tarra, Co. Donegal and Co. Cork being >>>> mentioned. To make matters even more frustrating is that in the 1920's >>>> 2 >>>> of my Dad's aunts visited Ireland, found all of our Johnston kin buried >>>> (none surviving), made a journal containing their burial details, and >>>> now >>>> no one knows what happened to the journal or where the 2 sisters >>>> visited. >>>> >>>> Ca. 1905-1910 a sailor came to my ggrandfather's farm searching for a >>>> Johnston. He had been hired by a solicitor in Ireland. The last of >>>> our >>>> Johnstons had died leaving no surviving kin in Ireland and a small >>>> estate. >>> >>>> He may have been a pub owner. My grandfather moved about this time to >>>> a >>>> better farm in Clarence Twp., Russell Co., Ontario, Canada, on what is >>>> now >>> >>>> Johnston Road. >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net