Is the 1901 census of Antrim available on the internet? I am looking for my grandfather's family (Kirkpatrick) in the town of Antrim. Liz

In a message dated 4/18/07 5:00:25 PM, rosemary.davis@295.ca writes: > Are there Parish Registers or other sources for Carmoney that can be > consulted?  Are there any data bases online? > Check the Ordnance Survey Memoirs for Carnmoney. the Public Record Office of Northern Ireland describes them as follows: In 1824, a House of Commons committee recommended a townland survey of Ireland, with maps at the scale of six inches to one statute mile to facilitate a uniform valuation for local taxation. The survey was directed by Colonel Thomas Colby, who had available to him officers of the Royal Engineers and three companies of sappers and miners. In addition to this, civil servants were recruited to help with sketching, drawing and engraving maps, and eventually, in the 1830s, the writing of the Memoirs. The Memoirs are written descriptions intended to accompany the maps, containing information which the maps could not contain. They are a unique source for the history of the northern half of Ireland before the Great Famine as they document the landscape and situation, buildings and antiquities, land-holdings and population, employment and livelihood of the parishes. The surveyors recorded the habits of the people, their food, drink, dress and customs. Details of ruined churches, prehistoric monuments and standing stones were also included. The memoirs for parishes in counties Londonderry and Antrim also record the names of people known to have emigrated from the community in the previous few years. This was at a time when the pressures of growing population, reduced employment opportunities and especially the decline of farmers’ income from domestically-spun yarn (which was now being done mechanically) induced many people in Ulster to emigrate. The majority of those recorded in the Memoirs are cited as having gone to Canada, though many subsequently migrated from there to the United States. The first report of the Ordnance Survey appeared in 1839 but the government decided to discontinue the Survey on the grounds of expense. By this time the Memoirs covered the Province of Ulster primarily, with only fragments for areas further south. They remain a marvellous wealth of information on life in Ulster during the 1830s and provides much more detailed information of the daily life of its inhabitants than any census could hope to do. The one for Carnmoney is the largest of all of them, emcompassing over 1,000 pages. The Ordnance Survey Memoirs Institute of Irish Studies, QUB The Ordnance Survey Memoirs are a unique source for the history of the northern half of Ireland before the Great Famine, as they document the landscape and situation, buildings and antiquities, land-holdings and population, employment and livelihoods of the parishes. The surveyors recorded the habits of the people, their food, drink, dress and customs. Useful genealogical information can also be found. For many parishes in counties Antrim and Londonderry there are lists of emigrants from the 1830s. Recordings of gravestone inscriptions are also occasionally given. At the time the original Memoirs only one volume was ever published: that for the parish of Templemore (including the city of Derry), County Londonderry. In the 1990s the remaining Memoirs were published in 40 volumes by the Institute of Irish Studies at Queen’s University Belfast. A massive index running to over 100,000 entries for people and places has also been published. For more information on the areas covered and how the volumes may be ordered visit our website www.booksireland.org.uk They were done over a period of time and at last count there were 35 of them. Those I've seen aren't necessarily full of genealogy but among other things, they give you the land/estate owner and it's usually in his records that you find the rest of us. Let me know if you need further help with them. Linda ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hello Listers, I live in Canada and I have just joined the list. I am not familiar with the resources available for family research in Northern Ireland so please bear with me. I am researching my husband's maternal line, WESKETT, and I have just discovered in the 1851 census for London, England that there was a John WESKETT listed at the Royal Artillery Barracks at Wandsworth Dock, London. His place of birth is given as Carmoney, Antrim. One of the commercial genealogy sites has it transcribed as Austria! His age is given as 19 years so that would make his date of birth about 1830/1/32. Are there Parish Registers or other sources for Carmoney that can be consulted? Are there any data bases online? Any and all help is greatly appreciated. Thanks Rosemary Ottawa Ontario Canada BIFHSGO # 537 Volunteer transcriber for FreeBMD Searching for ADAMS- Hampshire DAVIS- Middlesex, Essex PARRICK-Hampshire, Middlesex, Canada, USA WESKETT and all variants - everywhere

Tom, it looks a bit like the town of Strabane in west Co Tyrone but that's a longish way from Belfast. There's a Straid in the parish of Ballynure just north-east of Belfast. Regards Nevin

Many thanks to all of you who have written letters of support re our brave ancestors who died from disease upon arrival at New York, and their respectful reinterrment. Following is a response I received from Lynn Rogers, Chair of Friends of Abandoned Cemeteries. Genealogists like you realise the importance of such efforts, and our ancestors' spirits thank you. Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: wblynn315@aol.com To: WBLynn315@aol.com ; stevensons@odyssey.on.ca Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 4:39 PM Subject: Re: Further to my last email Wendy, I don't know who your hitting but it certainly is WORKING. I have received atleast 200 letters these past two days!! I haven't had time to count them yet. I got an envelope in the mail with 26 letters from Baltimore! Must be a group effort, they didn't indicate, just sent support letters. They may be from the Irish Voice, they're the only newspaper that really picked up the story beside our local paper. Thanks again, you are an angel. Lynn -----Original Message----- From: WBLynn315@aol.com To: stevensons@odyssey.on.ca Sent: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:11 AM Subject: Re: Further to my last email Hi Wendy, this email is my personal one, SICemetery (Friends Abandoned Cemeteries) is my work email. Your really hitting on the responses, I got 77 this morning and close to 40 yesterday! Keep up the postings, we'll shame the State of NY into "doing the right thing". Thanks a lot! Lynn Rogers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- See what's free at AOL.com. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

I am trying to find the birthplace of my 3xgreatgrandfather, George Jenkins. He was born sometime between 1804 and 1811 in a place called Strabhna near Belfast. I have not been able to find it. He married a Martha Coughrane and they emigrated to Kingston, Ontario, Canada by 1832. I assume I have the name of the place misplaced. Any suggestions of the name of the place would be appreciated. Tom Rodgers > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

looking for any help relating to alice kilpatrick daughter of james kilpatrick and elizabeth robinson, married to peter kyle or coyle shipmate son of edward coyle or kyle and mary mcculloch, daughter of alice and peter coyle or kyle born in dublin around 1869 at peter downing in 1873 it was stated his father edward was dead and his mother mary mcculloch was living in america i would be grateful for any help god bless liz hamilton

Good morning: My John Williamson was born in 1792 in Monaghan Co. He married Margaret Speer. They emigrated after 1842 to Mt. Carroll, Illinois, USA. None of the names that you have mentioned are in my files. John's children were Eliza, David, Margaret, Robert, and William. Robert, born 1785 John, 1792, Elizabeth, 1800 and Richard 1803 were the original family. I don't know who there parents were. Roberts family were from Creevagh townland, Ireland, and Ballybay, Monoghan. Richard's family wee King's Court, Co. Cavan.

Hi, I'm trying to make my connection in Ireland. The only information I have is John Williamson, born Ireland, 1829. John married Catherine A. Flynn prior to 1858. Don't know if married in Ireland or U.S. All children born in Springfield/Columbia, California: Mary 1858 Matilda 1860 (my grandmother) Sophia 1863 Clara 1869 William 1877 Research has found a John Williamson, born 1829 in Belfast, Antrim and Camus Tyrone. Don't know if they are mine or not. Mike -------Original Message------- From: Jean Campbell Date: 4/17/2007 7:12:07 AM To: Mike O'Brien; irl-antrim@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Williamson Good morning: My John Williamson was born in 1792 in Monaghan Co. He married Margaret Speer. They emigrated after 1842 to Mt. Carroll, Illinois, USA. None of the names that you have mentioned are in my files. John's children Were Eliza, David, Margaret, Robert, and William. Robert, born 1785 John, 1792, Elizabeth, 1800 and Richard 1803 were the original family. I don't Know who there parents were. Roberts family were from Creevagh townland, Ireland, and Ballybay, Monoghan. Richard's family wee King's Court, Co. Cavan.

Hi, I'm new to this list and have been on others for years. I have a John Williamson, born in 1829, Ireland and died in California after 1898. He married a Catherine A Flynn b. 1830, Ireland, d. 1893, California) who arrived in Springfield/Columbia, California in the 1850s as their first child was born in Springfield in 1858. John was a miner in the gold fields. John and Catherine are my great grandparents on my grandmothers side. Research shows the following: I have a John Williamson born 1829 in Belfast, Co Antrim. His father was John Willaimson born 1808 in Belfast who married a Margaret Cauniphan about 1829 in Donegal. I also have found a John Williamson born 3 August 1829 in Camus, Co Tyrone. His father was also a John who married an Ann Neilson. I am looking for anyone researching this line. Thanks, Mike O'Brien mike@obrienclan.com

Just rejoined after a lapse of a few years.. JOHN WARDEN, son of Samuel and Sara Warden nee McAuley, of Artlone. Randalstown, Co. Antrim. Was with the NZ Soldiers who died at Berre Ferrer in 1917. John was in the NZ Reinforcements. Age 33. date of death 24th Sept 1917. Service No. 56883. Buried at Plymouth Efford. Cemetery. Devon. Tragically died in the train accident as the soldiers were getting off a train, another train was approaching on the other line..... 10 soldiers killed instantly, buried at Efford. I have the photographs of the graves, but as soon as I was given the list the other day, I spied Co. Antrim, and thought I would rejoin the list to let anyone know who may have this name in their family. A little bit of help normally goes a long way.. Photographs have been kindly emailed to me, from people on the Devon List.. so have joined that one as well.. I have the write up about this terrible accident. I will return to try and find out more about my late mothers family.. Mc or MacCafferty, as a long lost cousin visited NZ last month! Adele Clareville NZ -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 792 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

My dear wife, Ruth, has booked us to attend the annual dinner of the Northern Ireland Family History Society. It will be held at Lorne House on Thursday 19 April at 7:30pm. Any ***-Antrim list members also to be present? Norman

Does anybody know the names of landlords in Racavan, Skerry, and Ahoghill Parishes, particularly for the townlands, Lisnahilt, Ticloy, and Gortfad, 1775 - 1825? Thanks, David

Record Type Civil Marriage Date of Marriage 12 May 1884 Groom Name samuel STEELE Bride Name jane BELL Church Wellington Street Presbyterian Church Parish Kirkinriola Civil District Ballymena County Antrim Couldn't believe I couldn't find one birth This marriage is probably a later than you expected but does seem to be the couple I will look for the children's marriage over Easter I am presuming the ones you gave are in Ireland Hope this is of help Patricia New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jean Campbell Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 4:52 AM To: irl-antrim@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Steele family Ballymena area Searching for Samuel Steele and Jane Bell Steele family information. Children: Forbes born 1882, Ballymena, Robert, Samuel James born 1889, Daniel, John, Maggie, Sarah, Willie, Martha, Harriet. Robert was the eldest and was raised by his grandparents the Bell's. Forbes emigrated to Australia, and Samuel and Daniel emigrated to Canada as young men. Maggie married someone with the name Gourley, Sarah married Sandy Stuart, Martha married a Stevely, and Harriet a Graham. Anyone related or that has information about these people, please contact me. My husband Robert is the grandson of Samuel James Steele. Thanks in advance for your help. Jean Campbell ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Searching for Samuel Steele and Jane Bell Steele family information. Children: Forbes born 1882, Ballymena, Robert, Samuel James born 1889, Daniel, John, Maggie, Sarah, Willie, Martha, Harriet. Robert was the eldest and was raised by his grandparents the Bell's. Forbes emigrated to Australia, and Samuel and Daniel emigrated to Canada as young men. Maggie married someone with the name Gourley, Sarah married Sandy Stuart, Martha married a Stevely, and Harriet a Graham. Anyone related or that has information about these people, please contact me. My husband Robert is the grandson of Samuel James Steele. Thanks in advance for your help. Jean Campbell

Thank you for your message. I will be away from the Centre until Wednesday April 4th and will reply to messages then. If you need immediate assistance, please contact Denata Stanbury at denata.stanbury@tvcc.on.ca or 519-685-8700 ext 53443. Thank you, Karen --------------------------------------------------------------------- Karen Horgan, Director Community & Clinical Information Resources Thames Valley Children's Centre 779 BaseLine Road East London ON N6C 5Y6 tel: 519-685-8700 1-53482 fax: 519-685-8706 karen.horgan@tvcc.on.ca www.tvcc.on.ca >>> irl-antrim 04/03/07 03:12 >>> Today's Topics: 1. ROLL CALL : McKENZIE / MILLER - Ballymoney Area, Antrim / Derry, Ire 1790 To 1895 (Walt-Irish@comcast.net) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 17:58:26 -0400 From: <Walt-Irish@comcast.net> Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] ROLL CALL : McKENZIE / MILLER - Ballymoney Area, Antrim / Derry, Ire 1790 To 1895 To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <001001c77572$0ab71280$d84bfd45@wlm> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ~ M c K E N Z I E ~ O ' N E I L ~ S U L L I V A N ~ S H E E H A N ~ Boston (Somerville), MA, USA Via Ballymoney*, Liverpool, York, Lancashire, Glasgow & Quebec ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ I treasure my Scotch-Irish heritage. May all your brick walls fall into your family search in the near future. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -. Dia dhuit (JEE-a dich), Good Day - Hello, Conas tat u ? (CUNN-us thaw tu) How are you ?. It is so difficult to do Ireland & Scotland family research across the pond from America. Most civil records in MA have been exhausted and some in Ire obtained. Church records, are my primary Ire search effort, any lookups are appreciated. Unknown McKENZIE b.c.1790-95** Ire or Scot. (My GGG-Grandfather) My brick wall is my gg-grandfather, Daniel McKenzie, a farmer b c. 1815-20** and d.c. 1871*** both Ire. He m. Margaret Miller c. 1846** Ire but not listed at Groni as Protestant m., suggesting Catholic. Children include Elizabeth b. June 1847**** Ire, m.- none, to Boston 1895 from Ballymoney Ire, d.1904 & John, a laborer and teamster b. Aug. 1848 Ire, to Boston 1872 via Quebec, Can. Catholic m. 1874 Boston to Katie Madden. John d. 1902. BACKGROUND - Brick Wall Religion McKenzie (no a) suggest Protestant (Presbyterian) but family line all Catholic since 1874 US. Mac was Catholic in Scot. Until the 16 C Reformation. A 1856 Finvoy civil (reg. off.) m. of groom P. Killough, a laborer, with a Daniel McKenzie as witness could suggest either religion. However, Killough m. again in 1865 in a Presbyterian church. It is possible some of my McKenzie line converted to Protestantism during the 16-17th C. John b. Aug. 1848 could have returned to Catholicism in US 1872 via 1874 Catholic m. to a Katie Madden of Boston. My father, Frank Joseph, Jr., was a firefighter b.1905 & d. 1994 In the 1940's he use to take me to visit his uncle George (Thomas) McKenzie, a painter, who also lived in Somerville, MA, USA. My grandfather, Frank Joseph, Sr., was a teamster; 2 of his 3 brothers were firefighters (my father uncles). Research indicates that Geo father, a stone mason, James Lloyd McKenzie b.c.1852***** Ire and m. Catholic, Mary Ann Cassidy also from Ire, 1873 in Eng. where Geo was b.1887**. James father name was John, a farmer, which fits in well with family given names etc. Geo came to USA 1907 and m. Catholic in 1908, another clue suggesting family line was Catholic in 19th C Ire. Thus, if Daniel m. Catholic, this would explain the great difficulty in finding a Ire m. record, since these records before 1865 were private church documents and not a civil public record. Many Mac changed to Mc thus indicating Protestant or in an attempt to "hide" being Catholic to fit in better as Protestantism predominated or viser-verser etc. During 19 C Boston, it was common for the newer Catholic Boston clergy to reach out to Irish immigrants before the more established Protestant clergy did. BACKGROUND - Brick Wall Origin Ire Place of origin clues indicate Ballymoney* being the major market town of 1895 Antrim. Also, 1) above 1856 Finvoy m. of groom P.Killough 40yrs has a Daniel McKenzie 40yrs as a witness and 2) 1831 census Aghadowey, Derry list a Daniel McKensey. Both these locations are close to Ballymoney C.P.and the large market town of Ballymoney. Family 19th century Ire given names include : Daniel, Margaret, John, Elizabeth, James, Francis, Joseph, George. Any suggestions of other sources and/or approaches are always welcomed. Your kindness, consideration, time & effort are greatly appreciated. Slainte (SLAWN-chuh) - To your health. Go raibh maith agat (guh roh moh UG-ut) - Thank you. Le gach dea-ghui - Best regards. Slan agat (slawn UG-ut) - Good-bye , Grandpa Walt b.1938 " Scot-Ulster-Irish " McKenzie,Sr.4/2/07 - 5p. Retired Ph.D. pharmaceutical scientist.******. Central Jersey Shore Via Boston, Ulster, Ire & Scot. NW Highlands Walt-Irish@comcast.net www.irelandseye.com ---------------------------------- *Based on Eliz. Passenger record 1895. Twelve (12) Ballymony's in Ire. Most likely 1895 Co.Antrim lg.major town near Co. Derry border. **Based on children birth years / age. ***Based on son John 1872 arrival Boston via Quebec, Can. ****Based on children age (b.) in 1900 US or 1881 Eng. census. *****Based on children or self m. record. ******My only sibling, a brother, Frank b. 1935, is an accountant with an office supply business. My maternal grandfather, James A. Sullivan d. 1943, was a pipe fitter-machinist at Boston naval shipyard, My wife, Mary Dorothy Golden, father, Ambrose Joseph d. 1956, had a trucking business. ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-ANTRIM list administrator, send an email to IRL-ANTRIM-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-ANTRIM mailing list, send an email to IRL-ANTRIM@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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~ M c K E N Z I E ~ O ' N E I L ~ S U L L I V A N ~ S H E E H A N ~ Boston (Somerville), MA, USA Via Ballymoney*, Liverpool, York, Lancashire, Glasgow & Quebec ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ I treasure my Scotch-Irish heritage. May all your brick walls fall into your family search in the near future. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -. Dia dhuit (JEE-a dich), Good Day - Hello, Conas tat u ? (CUNN-us thaw tu) How are you ?. It is so difficult to do Ireland & Scotland family research across the pond from America. Most civil records in MA have been exhausted and some in Ire obtained. Church records, are my primary Ire search effort, any lookups are appreciated. Unknown McKENZIE b.c.1790-95** Ire or Scot. (My GGG-Grandfather) My brick wall is my gg-grandfather, Daniel McKenzie, a farmer b c. 1815-20** and d.c. 1871*** both Ire. He m. Margaret Miller c. 1846** Ire but not listed at Groni as Protestant m., suggesting Catholic. Children include Elizabeth b. June 1847**** Ire, m.- none, to Boston 1895 from Ballymoney Ire, d.1904 & John, a laborer and teamster b. Aug. 1848 Ire, to Boston 1872 via Quebec, Can. Catholic m. 1874 Boston to Katie Madden. John d. 1902. BACKGROUND - Brick Wall Religion McKenzie (no a) suggest Protestant (Presbyterian) but family line all Catholic since 1874 US. Mac was Catholic in Scot. Until the 16 C Reformation. A 1856 Finvoy civil (reg. off.) m. of groom P. Killough, a laborer, with a Daniel McKenzie as witness could suggest either religion. However, Killough m. again in 1865 in a Presbyterian church. It is possible some of my McKenzie line converted to Protestantism during the 16-17th C. John b. Aug. 1848 could have returned to Catholicism in US 1872 via 1874 Catholic m. to a Katie Madden of Boston. My father, Frank Joseph, Jr., was a firefighter b.1905 & d. 1994 In the 1940's he use to take me to visit his uncle George (Thomas) McKenzie, a painter, who also lived in Somerville, MA, USA. My grandfather, Frank Joseph, Sr., was a teamster; 2 of his 3 brothers were firefighters (my father uncles). Research indicates that Geo father, a stone mason, James Lloyd McKenzie b.c.1852***** Ire and m. Catholic, Mary Ann Cassidy also from Ire, 1873 in Eng. where Geo was b.1887**. James father name was John, a farmer, which fits in well with family given names etc. Geo came to USA 1907 and m. Catholic in 1908, another clue suggesting family line was Catholic in 19th C Ire. Thus, if Daniel m. Catholic, this would explain the great difficulty in finding a Ire m. record, since these records before 1865 were private church documents and not a civil public record. Many Mac changed to Mc thus indicating Protestant or in an attempt to "hide" being Catholic to fit in better as Protestantism predominated or viser-verser etc. During 19 C Boston, it was common for the newer Catholic Boston clergy to reach out to Irish immigrants before the more established Protestant clergy did. BACKGROUND - Brick Wall Origin Ire Place of origin clues indicate Ballymoney* being the major market town of 1895 Antrim. Also, 1) above 1856 Finvoy m. of groom P.Killough 40yrs has a Daniel McKenzie 40yrs as a witness and 2) 1831 census Aghadowey, Derry list a Daniel McKensey. Both these locations are close to Ballymoney C.P.and the large market town of Ballymoney. Family 19th century Ire given names include : Daniel, Margaret, John, Elizabeth, James, Francis, Joseph, George. Any suggestions of other sources and/or approaches are always welcomed. Your kindness, consideration, time & effort are greatly appreciated. Slainte (SLAWN-chuh) - To your health. Go raibh maith agat (guh roh moh UG-ut) - Thank you. Le gach dea-ghui - Best regards. Slan agat (slawn UG-ut) - Good-bye , Grandpa Walt b.1938 " Scot-Ulster-Irish " McKenzie,Sr.4/2/07 - 5p. Retired Ph.D. pharmaceutical scientist.******. Central Jersey Shore Via Boston, Ulster, Ire & Scot. NW Highlands Walt-Irish@comcast.net www.irelandseye.com ---------------------------------- *Based on Eliz. Passenger record 1895. Twelve (12) Ballymony's in Ire. Most likely 1895 Co.Antrim lg.major town near Co. Derry border. **Based on children birth years / age. ***Based on son John 1872 arrival Boston via Quebec, Can. ****Based on children age (b.) in 1900 US or 1881 Eng. census. *****Based on children or self m. record. ******My only sibling, a brother, Frank b. 1935, is an accountant with an office supply business. My maternal grandfather, James A. Sullivan d. 1943, was a pipe fitter-machinist at Boston naval shipyard, My wife, Mary Dorothy Golden, father, Ambrose Joseph d. 1956, had a trucking business.

~ M c K E N Z I E ~ O ' N E I L ~ S U L L I V A N ~ S H E E H A N ~ Boston (Somerville), MA, USA Via Ballymoney*, Liverpool, York, Lancashire, Glasgow & Quebec ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ I treasure my Scotch-Irish heritage. May all your brick walls fall into your family search in the near future. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -. Dia dhuit (JEE-a dich), Good Day - Hello, Conas tat u ? (CUNN-us thaw tu) How are you ?. It is so difficult to do Ireland & Scotland family research across the pond from America. Most civil records in MA have been exhausted and some in Ire obtained. Church records, are my primary Ire search effort, any lookups are appreciated. Unknown McKENZIE b.c.1790-95** Ire or Scot. (My GGG-Grandfather) My brick wall is my gg-grandfather, Daniel McKenzie, a farmer b c. 1815-20** and d.c. 1871*** both Ire. He m. Margaret Miller c. 1846** Ire but not listed at Groni as Protestant m., suggesting Catholic. Children include Elizabeth b. June 1847**** Ire, m.- none, to Boston 1895 from Ballymoney Ire, d.1904 & John, a laborer and teamster b. Aug. 1848 Ire, to Boston 1872 via Quebec, Can. Catholic m. 1874 Boston to Katie Madden. John d. 1902. BACKGROUND - Brick Wall Religion McKenzie (no a) suggest Protestant (Presbyterian) but family line all Catholic since 1874 US. Mac was Catholic in Scot. Until the 16 C Reformation. A 1856 Finvoy civil (reg. off.) m. of groom P. Killough, a laborer, with a Daniel McKenzie as witness could suggest either religion. However, Killough m. again in 1865 in a Presbyterian church. It is possible some of my McKenzie line converted to Protestantism during the 16-17th C. John b. Aug. 1848 could have returned to Catholicism in US 1872 via 1874 Catholic m. to a Katie Madden of Boston. My father, Frank Joseph, Jr., was a firefighter b.1905 & d. 1994 In the 1940's he use to take me to visit his uncle George (Thomas) McKenzie, a painter, who also lived in Somerville, MA, USA. My grandfather, Frank Joseph, Sr., was a teamster; 2 of his 3 brothers were firefighters (my father uncles). Research indicates that Geo father, a stone mason, James Lloyd McKenzie b.c.1852***** Ire and m. Catholic, Mary Ann Cassidy also from Ire, 1873 in Eng. where Geo was b.1887**. James father name was John, a farmer, which fits in well with family given names etc. Geo came to USA 1907 and m. Catholic in 1908, another clue suggesting family line was Catholic in 19th C Ire. Thus, if Daniel m. Catholic, this would explain the great difficulty in finding a Ire m. record, since these records before 1865 were private church documents and not a civil public record. Many Mac changed to Mc thus indicating Protestant or in an attempt to "hide" being Catholic to fit in better as Protestantism predominated or viser-verser etc. During 19 C Boston, it was common for the newer Catholic Boston clergy to reach out to Irish immigrants before the more established Protestant clergy did. BACKGROUND - Brick Wall Origin Ire Place of origin clues indicate Ballymoney* being the major market town of 1895 Antrim. Also, 1) above 1856 Finvoy m. of groom P.Killough 40yrs has a Daniel McKenzie 40yrs as a witness and 2) 1831 census Aghadowey, Derry list a Daniel McKensey. Both these locations are close to Ballymoney C.P.and the large market town of Ballymoney. Family 19th century Ire given names include : Daniel, Margaret, John, Elizabeth, James, Francis, Joseph, George. Any suggestions of other sources and/or approaches are always welcomed. Your kindness, consideration, time & effort are greatly appreciated. Slainte (SLAWN-chuh) - To your health. Go raibh maith agat (guh roh moh UG-ut) - Thank you. Le gach dea-ghui - Best regards. Slan agat (slawn UG-ut) - Good-bye , Grandpa Walt b.1938 " Scot-Ulster-Irish " McKenzie,Sr.4/2/07 - 5p. Retired Ph.D. pharmaceutical scientist.******. Central Jersey Shore Via Boston, Ulster, Ire & Scot. NW Highlands Walt-Irish@comcast.net www.irelandseye.com ---------------------------------- *Based on Eliz. Passenger record 1895. Twelve (12) Ballymony's in Ire. Most likely 1895 Co.Antrim lg.major town near Co. Derry border. **Based on children birth years / age. ***Based on son John 1872 arrival Boston via Quebec, Can. ****Based on children age (b.) in 1900 US or 1881 Eng. census. *****Based on children or self m. record. ******My only sibling, a brother, Frank b. 1935, is an accountant with an office supply business. My maternal grandfather, James A. Sullivan d. 1943, was a pipe fitter-machinist at Boston naval shipyard, My wife, Mary Dorothy Golden, father, Ambrose Joseph d. 1956, had a trucking business.

Information want on anyone researching Greer family,from the above area, Raymond

Norman Could you please check and see if there is any mention of JAMES RAMSAY/RAMSEY who may have been born around that period or any other RAMSAY/RAMSEYS? His wife was MARY ONEILL any mention?. I know his son JOHN RAMSAY was born in Dunluce in about 1852. Thankyou for your time Regards Janette Kindred Emerald Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "N.E.Parkes" <N.E.Parkes@btinternet.com> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 4:27 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Charles allen > Dear Margret, > > Sorry, I missed the original posting re. ALLEN of Dunluce Parish. > > The records of Dunluce Parish Church show: > > Baptism of JOHN son of WILLIAM ALLEN, a labourer of Tullycapple. 9th > August > 1824. > > I have only limited number (years 1809-1825) of pages of these records. > There is no other ALLEN in the set that I have. > > Norman