Mary: First of all this may come as a surprise. There were Shanks in Franklin Co., Pa. in the early 1700's and today there are about 75 of them. While I am not related to them, my Crunkleton line inter-married with them several times and there is even a Shanks church and cemetery today.Soon I am going to have a web site up and running which will have a great many names in it and you can check it. I have never run across the name in Ireland and I think knowing how prominent it is in Franklin Co. that I would remember seeing it. Sorry I can be of much help. Gordon Crooks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Widener" <widener74023@sbcglobal.net> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Migration > Gordon, > Do you have any specifici nformation of those leaving from Antrim in 1767, > my Mathew Shanks and his son James left there, I know the ship and all in > the S. Carolina's but seeking where he came from other than leaving from > Belfast in Jan. 1767. Know James uncle Robert Wilson, who came earlier to > S. Carolina,was from Carnmoney. So when I saw your listing of the > Migration from Antrim, wondered if you had anything such as I asked now. > Grateful for any help, it is one of my brickwalls. Know he was > Scot-Irish. > Mary Widener > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: gordon crooks <glcrooks@bcpl.net> > To: irl-antrim@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 7:15:45 PM > Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Migration > > > I have a fair amount of info on the migrations from Donegal and Antrim > Counties to the USA in the 1700's and early 1800's. but I have almost no > info on the other 7 counties of N. Ireland.. Does anyone have an info on > this ? > > Gordon Crooks > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

To all, My ancestor was Rev. Hugh CONN b. 1685 Magilligan, Ireland (NIRE). He was 1707 graduate of U. of Glasgow and sent by London, England to near Baltimore, Maryland USA about 1711-1713. I have tried locating his parents and siblings in Ireland, but there are no records; however, Sir Thomas Philip's militia(?) had 2 or 3 CONNs in the early/mid 1600s. It was told to me by a genealogy cousin, who was living in the Magilligan area until his death, that his & my CONN family was of Ayrshire, SCT. Hugh CONN was noted as being Scotus-Hibernus (Scots-Irish) on his university record. ==Are there any CONN surnames in the book mentioned in your e-mails? Thanks, Jean ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I have a fair amount of info on the migrations from Donegal and Antrim Counties to the USA in the 1700's and early 1800's. but I have almost no info on the other 7 counties of N. Ireland.. Does anyone have an info on this ? Gordon Crooks

Gordon, Do you have any specifici nformation of those leaving from Antrim in 1767, my Mathew Shanks and his son James left there, I know the ship and all in the S. Carolina's but seeking where he came from other than leaving from Belfast in Jan. 1767. Know James uncle Robert Wilson, who came earlier to S. Carolina,was from Carnmoney. So when I saw your listing of the Migration from Antrim, wondered if you had anything such as I asked now. Grateful for any help, it is one of my brickwalls. Know he was Scot-Irish. Mary Widener ----- Original Message ---- From: gordon crooks <glcrooks@bcpl.net> To: irl-antrim@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 7:15:45 PM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Migration I have a fair amount of info on the migrations from Donegal and Antrim Counties to the USA in the 1700's and early 1800's. but I have almost no info on the other 7 counties of N. Ireland.. Does anyone have an info on this ? Gordon Crooks ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HBH 1892 May 17 DONNELLY AliceHBH 1892 May 17 DONNELLY Alice Page Two-Tuesday DEATH DONNELLY-At the residence of her uncle, James GARDENER, on May 16th, Alice Donnelly, aged 30 years, late of Maghera, County Derry. The funeral will leave her uncle's residence for St Mary's Church at 2 o'clock tomorrow (Wednesday) afternoon. Friends will please accept this intimation. T.P. FULLER, undertaker.

HBH 1892 May 17 Miss FRASERHBH 1892 May 17 Miss FRASER Miss Fraser, till recently second mistress of the Napier Girls' High School, has opened a high-class school for girls at Palmerston North. Miss Fraser, who was head teacher at Oldenburg House, Christchurch, before coming to Napier, holds honors certificates from Dublin University, and she also obtained one of the scholarships granted its women by Trinity College, Dublin. Miss Fraser is regarded as particularly strong in modern languages, having resided on the Continent of Europe for more than seven years. She has successfully prepared girls for matriculation in both Christchurch and Napier.

Sorry Liz on the email I replied to Liz was asking for a KIRKPATRICK family in the town of Antrim, Co Antrim. Afraid I cannot help with Belfast. It may be worth asking on the Ulster Ancestry site. http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ This is a free site and you can subscribe to their Antrim list so that should help to spread the enquiry. Regards Pam -----Original Message----- From: irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Iretonhenry@aol.com Sent: 22 April 2007 11:50 To: irl-antrim@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Follow up re Quarantine Hospitall hi pam many many thanks for you and your mums kindness. this information is taken from an application for poor relief 1883 alice kilpatrick born 1846 in belfast, daughter of james kilpatrick a block printer and daughter of Elizabeth robertson-robinson alice married peter kyle or coyle shipmate, son of edward coyle or kyle and mary mcculloch who was living in america at the time of peters death by drowning in 1873 in the west indies in 1883 peter and alice would have been married 15yrs , so she must have been married to him 4 yrs when he was drowned i am hopeless at geography and as i am 76yrs stand little chance of learning, it does say where born---------------co antrim ireland god bless and keep you and yours liz ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hi pam many many thanks for you and your mums kindness. this information is taken from an application for poor relief 1883 alice kilpatrick born 1846 in belfast, daughter of james kilpatrick a block printer and daughter of Elizabeth robertson-robinson alice married peter kyle or coyle shipmate, son of edward coyle or kyle and mary mcculloch who was living in america at the time of peters death by drowning in 1873 in the west indies in 1883 peter and alice would have been married 15yrs , so she must have been married to him 4 yrs when he was drowned i am hopeless at geography and as i am 76yrs stand little chance of learning, it does say where born---------------co antrim ireland god bless and keep you and yours liz

Shirlee I did copy part of James Kenny Book of 1988, but not all the Index (which is a separate Book). However, I did copy page 238 which seems to confirm your statement. "Margaret Beattie married Samuel Dale of Ballycloughan, brother of Marth Dale, Mrs Robert Kenny, Sen. and of Margaret Dale, wife of ny uncle John Beattie and mother of John Beattie, Roadside and Dr Robert Beattie, Drewsbury, England" This may help others to help you. Mike Boyd ----- Original Message ----- From: <tcantwell@xtra.co.nz> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 2:38 PM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Nancy (Agnes) Magill and Archibald Beatty/Beattie -4thchild of Sarah Boyd > Hi Mike > > Although not related to the Boyds I could be related to the Beattie > family. > My Great Grandfather Ferguson Dale stated on his Marriage Registration > that > he was born in Ballymena in 1837 to a Samuel Dale and Margaret Beattie He > immigrated to Victoria Australia at the age of 20 in 1857. > > I have found out that Samuel Dale is said to have had two sisters Margaret > and Martha - Margaret who married John Beattie (Margarets brother) while > Martha married Robert Kenny ( James G Kenny's great grandfather). > > Ferguson's only grandaughter (still living at age 96) has said that > Ferguson > did > not talk about the family left behind in Ireland consequently no-one knows > anything other than what is on the Marriage Registration. > > My cousin and I have been trying to obtain a copy of the the book "As the > Crow Flies Over Rough Terrain: Incorporating Diary, 1827-28 and More > of a Divine" by James G Kenny for nearly two years. > > I have managed to contact two Kenny researchers but neither of them > researched the Dale connection. > > Any information you may have would be appreciated. > > Shirlee Cantwell (Dale) > Wellington, New Zealand >

Hi Mike Although not related to the Boyds I could be related to the Beattie family. My Great Grandfather Ferguson Dale stated on his Marriage Registration that he was born in Ballymena in 1837 to a Samuel Dale and Margaret Beattie He immigrated to Victoria Australia at the age of 20 in 1857. I have found out that Samuel Dale is said to have had two sisters Margaret and Martha - Margaret who married John Beattie (Margarets brother) while Martha married Robert Kenny ( James G Kenny's great grandfather). Ferguson's only grandaughter (still living at age 96) has said that Ferguson did not talk about the family left behind in Ireland consequently no-one knows anything other than what is on the Marriage Registration. My cousin and I have been trying to obtain a copy of the the book "As the Crow Flies Over Rough Terrain: Incorporating Diary, 1827-28 and More of a Divine" by James G Kenny for nearly two years. I have managed to contact two Kenny researchers but neither of them researched the Dale connection. Any information you may have would be appreciated. Shirlee Cantwell (Dale) Wellington, New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 1:49 PM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Nancy (Agnes) Magill and Archibald Beatty/Beattie -4th child of Sarah Boyd > I am looking for any descendants of Nancy Magill and Archibald > Beatty/Beattie. Nancy was hte 4th child of Sarah Boy and George Freederic > Magill of Broughsahne. Below are the limited details I have of these Boyd > descendants. > > Mike Boyd > Historical Committee, HBS > > T4 Sarah Boyd, b 29/7/1754 ( , Ireland?), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m 12/11/1786 > (Presbyterian Church, Broughshane, Co Antrim, Ireland), George Frederic > Magill, son of Neal and (nee ) Magill, b /8/1762 (Antrim [town or > County?], ), d 7/5/1828 ( , Ireland), bu Broughshane graveyard - assume this > is the First Presbyterian Church Graveyard?, and had issue:- > > [Lived: ] > > U4 Nancy (Agnes) Magill, b 8/6/1796 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m 3/8/1824 > (Presbyterina Church, town, county, etc), Archibald Beatty, son of and > (nee ) Beatty, b / /1795 ( ), d / /1879 ( ), bu , and had issue:- > > [Lived: of Thorntown, Ballygarvey, Broughshane, Co Antrim ] > > - Details? In one section of Mr Kenny's book he spells Nancy's husband as > "Beatty" while on page 217 he write's it as "Beattie". Which is the correct > form? > > V1 Robert Beatty, b 23/5/1825 ( ), d / /1906 ( ), bu , m ? > > - He became minister of Convay Presbyterian Church, Co Donegal. > > V2 John Beatty, b 14/12/1826 ( ), d / /1854 (at sea to Australia), bu at > sea? > > - He perished with his cousin Mary Magill (1825-1852) [U2/V5], Neill's > daughter in the wreck of the Tayleur in January 1852 going out to Australia. > [It would appear that the date of death is not correct and should be 1852?] > > V3 James Magill Beatty, b 1/10/1828 ( ), d / /1917 ( ), bu , m ? > > - As a lad of fifteen years in 1843 to South Carolina (Fishing Creek?) and > settled near his kindred who had gone there twenty years earlier. (James > Boyd Magill's family U5.) > > V4 Archibald (Archie) Beattie, b 3/5/1831 ( ), d / /1915 ( ), bu , m ? > > - He became the Minister of Irvinestown, Co Fermanagh. > > V5 George (Geordie) Beattie, b / /1833 ( ), d / /1922 (Thorntown, > Ballygarvey, Broughshane), bu , unm. > > - lived, farmed and died a bachelor in the Thorntown. > > V6 Sarah Jane Beattie, b / /1835 ( ), d / /1908 ( ), bu , m / /1855 (church, > town, county, etc), Robert Kenny, son of and (nee ) Kenny, b / /1833 ( ), d > / /1922 ( ), bu and had issue:- ? > > V7 Mary Ann Beattie, b / /1840 ( ), d / /1927 ( ), bu , unm. > > - Lived with her brother George [V5] at Thorntown. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.6/770 - Release Date: 20/04/2007 6:43 p.m. > >

On 20-Apr-07, at 8:48 PM, Mike Boyd wrote: >> From the book - As the Crow Flies over Rough Terrain, by James G. >> Kenny, > 1988, page 216, it says:- > > "James Boyd (1683-1759) who married Mary Henry (Broughshane > district Henrys > were kin of those in the Route). James Boyd's father was John Boyd > who > lived in Ballygarvey with his wife Jane Forsythe. (on a map of the > Adair > Estate, dated 1747, we see John Boyd as a tenant of over 50 acres in > Ballygarvey). John Boyd was son of John Boyd who came from Glasgow > with the > FIRST PRESBYTERIAN TO ULSTER AND ALSO LIVED IN BALLYGARVEY, his > wife was > Janet Logan, a worth name around her yet, over three and a half > centuries > on." > > The phrase "First Presbyterian to Ulster" caught my eye and as I do > not know > ... Hello, Mike: I can recommend at least two sources: one, "Fasti of the Irish Presbyterian Church, 1613-1840" (though this provides brief biographical data for Presbyterian ministers) and two, "A History of Congregations in the Presbyterian Church in Ireland, 1610-1982 (both pub. by Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland, Belfast). In my all-too-scant notes from the second reference, the earliest mention that I have is for Holywood congregation, at which was installed the Rev. Robert Cunningham, of Ayrshire, in 1615 -- best to consult the source, however. There are also the following references, to get you started on this research thread: - The History of the Presbyterian Church in Ireland, by William Cleland (Toronto, 1890). - History of the Presbyterian church in Ireland, comprising the civil history of the province of Ulster, from the accession of James the First (sic!), by James Seaton Reid (Belfast, 1867). - History of the Irish Presbyterian Church, by Thomas Hamilton (Edinburgh, 1887), available for a small fee, by download from booksulster.com - History of congregations of the Presbyterian Church in Ireland and biographical notices of eminent Presbyterian ministers and laymen, with the signification of names of places, intro by W.D. Killen (Edinburgh, 1886) - Scotch and Irish Seeds in America: The Early History of the Scotch and Irish Churches, and their Relations to the Presbyterian Church of America, by Rev. J.G. Craighead (1878), available for online viewing at www.libraryireland.com/ScotchIrishSeeds/Contents.php Many, if not all, of these books should be available via interlibrary loan. Best wishes with your search, Alison Kilpatrick Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia

I am looking for any descendants of Nancy Magill and Archibald Beatty/Beattie. Nancy was hte 4th child of Sarah Boy and George Freederic Magill of Broughsahne. Below are the limited details I have of these Boyd descendants. Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS T4 Sarah Boyd, b 29/7/1754 ( , Ireland?), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m 12/11/1786 (Presbyterian Church, Broughshane, Co Antrim, Ireland), George Frederic Magill, son of Neal and (nee ) Magill, b /8/1762 (Antrim [town or County?], ), d 7/5/1828 ( , Ireland), bu Broughshane graveyard - assume this is the First Presbyterian Church Graveyard?, and had issue:- [Lived: ] U4 Nancy (Agnes) Magill, b 8/6/1796 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m 3/8/1824 (Presbyterina Church, town, county, etc), Archibald Beatty, son of and (nee ) Beatty, b / /1795 ( ), d / /1879 ( ), bu , and had issue:- [Lived: of Thorntown, Ballygarvey, Broughshane, Co Antrim ] - Details? In one section of Mr Kenny's book he spells Nancy's husband as "Beatty" while on page 217 he write's it as "Beattie". Which is the correct form? V1 Robert Beatty, b 23/5/1825 ( ), d / /1906 ( ), bu , m ? - He became minister of Convay Presbyterian Church, Co Donegal. V2 John Beatty, b 14/12/1826 ( ), d / /1854 (at sea to Australia), bu at sea? - He perished with his cousin Mary Magill (1825-1852) [U2/V5], Neill's daughter in the wreck of the Tayleur in January 1852 going out to Australia. [It would appear that the date of death is not correct and should be 1852?] V3 James Magill Beatty, b 1/10/1828 ( ), d / /1917 ( ), bu , m ? - As a lad of fifteen years in 1843 to South Carolina (Fishing Creek?) and settled near his kindred who had gone there twenty years earlier. (James Boyd Magill's family U5.) V4 Archibald (Archie) Beattie, b 3/5/1831 ( ), d / /1915 ( ), bu , m ? - He became the Minister of Irvinestown, Co Fermanagh. V5 George (Geordie) Beattie, b / /1833 ( ), d / /1922 (Thorntown, Ballygarvey, Broughshane), bu , unm. - lived, farmed and died a bachelor in the Thorntown. V6 Sarah Jane Beattie, b / /1835 ( ), d / /1908 ( ), bu , m / /1855 (church, town, county, etc), Robert Kenny, son of and (nee ) Kenny, b / /1833 ( ), d / /1922 ( ), bu and had issue:- ? V7 Mary Ann Beattie, b / /1840 ( ), d / /1927 ( ), bu , unm. - Lived with her brother George [V5] at Thorntown.

Susan If it had been the later 1600's I would have expected those involved with "The Covenanters" period. In M'Kay's book of 1864 on Kilmarnock he looks at the 1660's to late 1690's - I think. So I am not sure if this movement had started in Glasgow earlier or if this was some other event. It was cerainly brutal. Some of the Boyds who appear to have migrated from Ballymena in 1770's were Reformed Presbyterians or Covenanters and they went to Newberry County, SC. So I am trying ot see if they are linked or not. Mike Boyd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Brown" <susanbrown7777@sympatico.ca> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] First Presbyterian to Ulster > Great question because my 1669 Allex Macaw is shown for first time in > Ulster. I have wondered what happened in Scotland too to cause them to go > to Ireland. My dad swore he was Scottish not Irish but I have yet to > prove > it. Look forward to hearing a reply on this one. Susan >

I am looking for any descendants of Mary Boyd and James Dunlop. Below are the limited details I have of these Boyd descendants. Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS T4 Sarah Boyd, b 29/7/1754 ( , Ireland?), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m 12/11/1786 (Presbyterian Church, Broughshane, Co Antrim, Ireland), George Frederic Magill, son of Neal and (nee ) Magill, b /8/1762 (Antrim [town or County?], ), d 7/5/1828 ( , Ireland), bu Broughshane graveyard - assume this is the First Presbyterian Church Graveyard?, and had issue:- [Lived: ] U3 Mary Magill, b 11/4/1793 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m 18/11/1826 (Presbyterian Church, town, county, etc), James Dunlop, son of and (nee ) Dunlop, b / /179x ( ), bu , and had issue:- [Lived: ] - Details? V1 Mary Dunlop, b 7/12/1827 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m ? V2 Sarah Dunlop, b 29/6/1830 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m ? V3 William John Dunlop, b 14/11/1832 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m / /185x (church, town, county, etc), wife not given, dau of and (nee ) ????, b / /183x ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- - William J. Dunlop of Dunlop and Carson, and daffodil fame, for the farming where he lives in Lisnamurrican, Broughshane, is a direct descendant.

>From the book - As the Crow Flies over Rough Terrain, by James G. Kenny, 1988, page 216, it says:- "James Boyd (1683-1759) who married Mary Henry (Broughshane district Henrys were kin of those in the Route). James Boyd's father was John Boyd who lived in Ballygarvey with his wife Jane Forsythe. (on a map of the Adair Estate, dated 1747, we see John Boyd as a tenant of over 50 acres in Ballygarvey). John Boyd was son of John Boyd who came from Glasgow with the FIRST PRESBYTERIAN TO ULSTER AND ALSO LIVED IN BALLYGARVEY, his wife was Janet Logan, a worth name around her yet, over three and a half centuries on." The phrase "First Presbyterian to Ulster" caught my eye and as I do not know in detail the History of the migration to Ulster, I thoughit may be best to ask these lists. Mr Kenny suggest that this was about 1630's. So what happened in Scotland in that period to cause this migration given that you would have expected some of the Plantation families of 1609 period to have been Presbyterian. As I live in Brisbane, Australia I will not have access to many book on this topic. Thank you. Mike Boyd

Thank you for this Mike. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] First Presbyterian to Ulster > Susan > If it had been the later 1600's I would have expected those involved with > "The Covenanters" period. In M'Kay's book of 1864 on Kilmarnock he looks > at > the 1660's to late 1690's - I think. So I am not sure if this movement > had > started in Glasgow earlier or if this was some other event. It was > cerainly > brutal. > > Some of the Boyds who appear to have migrated from Ballymena in 1770's > were > Reformed Presbyterians or Covenanters and they went to Newberry County, > SC. > So I am trying ot see if they are linked or not. > > Mike Boyd > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Brown" <susanbrown7777@sympatico.ca> > To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 11:10 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] First Presbyterian to Ulster > > >> Great question because my 1669 Allex Macaw is shown for first time in >> Ulster. I have wondered what happened in Scotland too to cause them to >> go >> to Ireland. My dad swore he was Scottish not Irish but I have yet to >> prove >> it. Look forward to hearing a reply on this one. Susan >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have been following all of the Beatty msgs. Firstbthere were several Beatty families in Antrim in 1660, some (if not all) from Ahoghill went to the U.S. around 1738-1740 and settled in Franklin Co., Pa. In the early years they even had their own cemetery. Today there are about 20 Beatty families living there. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: <tcantwell@xtra.co.nz> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 12:38 AM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Nancy (Agnes) Magill and Archibald Beatty/Beattie -4thchild of Sarah Boyd > Hi Mike > > Although not related to the Boyds I could be related to the Beattie > family. > My Great Grandfather Ferguson Dale stated on his Marriage Registration > that > he was born in Ballymena in 1837 to a Samuel Dale and Margaret Beattie He > immigrated to Victoria Australia at the age of 20 in 1857. > > I have found out that Samuel Dale is said to have had two sisters Margaret > and Martha - Margaret who married John Beattie (Margarets brother) while > Martha married Robert Kenny ( James G Kenny's great grandfather). > > Ferguson's only grandaughter (still living at age 96) has said that > Ferguson > did > not talk about the family left behind in Ireland consequently no-one knows > anything other than what is on the Marriage Registration. > > My cousin and I have been trying to obtain a copy of the the book "As the > Crow Flies Over Rough Terrain: Incorporating Diary, 1827-28 and More > of a Divine" by James G Kenny for nearly two years. > > I have managed to contact two Kenny researchers but neither of them > researched the Dale connection. > > Any information you may have would be appreciated. > > Shirlee Cantwell (Dale) > Wellington, New Zealand > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> > To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 1:49 PM > Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Nancy (Agnes) Magill and Archibald > Beatty/Beattie -4th > child of Sarah Boyd > > >> I am looking for any descendants of Nancy Magill and Archibald >> Beatty/Beattie. Nancy was hte 4th child of Sarah Boy and George >> Freederic >> Magill of Broughsahne. Below are the limited details I have of these >> Boyd >> descendants. >> >> Mike Boyd >> Historical Committee, HBS >> >> T4 Sarah Boyd, b 29/7/1754 ( , Ireland?), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m >> 12/11/1786 >> (Presbyterian Church, Broughshane, Co Antrim, Ireland), George Frederic >> Magill, son of Neal and (nee ) Magill, b /8/1762 (Antrim [town or >> County?], ), d 7/5/1828 ( , Ireland), bu Broughshane graveyard - assume > this >> is the First Presbyterian Church Graveyard?, and had issue:- >> >> [Lived: ] >> >> U4 Nancy (Agnes) Magill, b 8/6/1796 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m 3/8/1824 >> (Presbyterina Church, town, county, etc), Archibald Beatty, son of and >> (nee ) Beatty, b / /1795 ( ), d / /1879 ( ), bu , and had issue:- >> >> [Lived: of Thorntown, Ballygarvey, Broughshane, Co Antrim ] >> >> - Details? In one section of Mr Kenny's book he spells Nancy's husband as >> "Beatty" while on page 217 he write's it as "Beattie". Which is the > correct >> form? >> >> V1 Robert Beatty, b 23/5/1825 ( ), d / /1906 ( ), bu , m ? >> >> - He became minister of Convay Presbyterian Church, Co Donegal. >> >> V2 John Beatty, b 14/12/1826 ( ), d / /1854 (at sea to Australia), bu at >> sea? >> >> - He perished with his cousin Mary Magill (1825-1852) [U2/V5], Neill's >> daughter in the wreck of the Tayleur in January 1852 going out to > Australia. >> [It would appear that the date of death is not correct and should be > 1852?] >> >> V3 James Magill Beatty, b 1/10/1828 ( ), d / /1917 ( ), bu , m ? >> >> - As a lad of fifteen years in 1843 to South Carolina (Fishing Creek?) >> and >> settled near his kindred who had gone there twenty years earlier. (James >> Boyd Magill's family U5.) >> >> V4 Archibald (Archie) Beattie, b 3/5/1831 ( ), d / /1915 ( ), bu , m ? >> >> - He became the Minister of Irvinestown, Co Fermanagh. >> >> V5 George (Geordie) Beattie, b / /1833 ( ), d / /1922 (Thorntown, >> Ballygarvey, Broughshane), bu , unm. >> >> - lived, farmed and died a bachelor in the Thorntown. >> >> V6 Sarah Jane Beattie, b / /1835 ( ), d / /1908 ( ), bu , m / /1855 > (church, >> town, county, etc), Robert Kenny, son of and (nee ) Kenny, b / /1833 ( ), > d >> / /1922 ( ), bu and had issue:- ? >> >> V7 Mary Ann Beattie, b / /1840 ( ), d / /1927 ( ), bu , unm. >> >> - Lived with her brother George [V5] at Thorntown. >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.6/770 - Release Date: 20/04/2007 > 6:43 p.m. >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Liz My mum may have some info, what are the names. She knows of a KIRKPATRICK family living in Antrim. She is 85 but her long term memory is excellent. Let me have what you know and I will try and find out from her anything else. The family she remembers lived in Church St and one of them drove the bread van for the co-operative, she thinks. I asked her today but she cannot remember the name but I am sure it will occupy her waking hours as she racks her brain. Regards Pam -----Original Message----- From: irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Liz Carter Sent: 19 April 2007 20:10 To: irl-antrim@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Follow up re Quarantine Hospitall Is the 1901 census of Antrim available on the internet? I am looking for my grandfather's family (Kirkpatrick) in the town of Antrim. Liz ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Great question because my 1669 Allex Macaw is shown for first time in Ulster. I have wondered what happened in Scotland too to cause them to go to Ireland. My dad swore he was Scottish not Irish but I have yet to prove it. Look forward to hearing a reply on this one. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> To: <BOYD@rootsweb.com>; <ayrshire@rootsweb.com>; <NIR-DERRY@rootsweb.com>; <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 6:48 PM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] First Presbyterian to Ulster > >From the book - As the Crow Flies over Rough Terrain, by James G. Kenny, > 1988, page 216, it says:- > > "James Boyd (1683-1759) who married Mary Henry (Broughshane district > Henrys > were kin of those in the Route). James Boyd's father was John Boyd who > lived in Ballygarvey with his wife Jane Forsythe. (on a map of the Adair > Estate, dated 1747, we see John Boyd as a tenant of over 50 acres in > Ballygarvey). John Boyd was son of John Boyd who came from Glasgow with > the > FIRST PRESBYTERIAN TO ULSTER AND ALSO LIVED IN BALLYGARVEY, his wife was > Janet Logan, a worth name around her yet, over three and a half centuries > on." > > The phrase "First Presbyterian to Ulster" caught my eye and as I do not > know > in detail the History of the migration to Ulster, I thoughit may be best > to > ask these lists. Mr Kenny suggest that this was about 1630's. So what > happened in Scotland in that period to cause this migration given that you > would have expected some of the Plantation families of 1609 period to have > been Presbyterian. > > As I live in Brisbane, Australia I will not have access to many book on > this > topic. > > Thank you. > > Mike Boyd > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

You may like to have a look at the National Archives of Ireland.............. _http://www.nationalarchives.ie/_ (http://www.nationalarchives.ie/) under What's New click _1901 and 1911 Census: digitisation_ (http://www.nationalarchives.ie/contactus/census.html) it will take you to a new page with a link to a PDF document regarding progress on this project. Roll on Autumn this year!