Hi Dianna A birth certificate should have parents names, father's occupation, place and date of birth. You would have to purchase the certificate to find out the exact details on it. A photocopy from the GRO is the cheapest way for events prior to 1922 as long as it is not for legal purposes and is what most family historians buy. http://www.groni.gov.uk/index/order_certificates.htm However I cannot see a birth in the indexes for her only a death registration. Perhaps Heaney is her married name? It may be that her birth was not registered at all as that was early days, in which case you will need parish records if you know what parish to look in. Regards Lyn In Oz. > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of dianna charles > Sent: Friday, 9 April 2010 4:57 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Visit to Public Records Office > > Hi > Can someone tell me please how I can find out if anyone is > going to the Public Record Office (PRONI) as I would like > someone to look up an 1864 birth of Alice Jane HEANEY thanks. > Also what information is on an 1864 birth certificate, it > may help with my family history research as the other > siblings were born prior to 1864. Thanks kind regards dianna > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Dianna, Not sure if you've already found this or not. I've been looking at so many Irish counties lately and often the data is relevant to other counties as well. http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/ Click on a county and it will show parishes. Click on a parishes and it will show details of available records for churches within that parish and where they are located. I also noted than on the IFHF site, you can click on sources, and it will show the data that they've captured. Then try to make a comparison between available records and captured records. I found a parish with 30 churches but only one third of them captured. Peter

Hi Can someone tell me please how I can find out if anyone is going to the Public Record Office (PRONI) as I would like someone to look up an 1864 birth of Alice Jane HEANEY thanks. Also what information is on an 1864 birth certificate, it may help with my family history research as the other siblings were born prior to 1864. Thanks kind regards dianna

Does anyone on the list know PRONI will close it Office at Balmoral. I understand that they will be moving to a new building in the Docks area of Belfast. So when will this new Office be opening. Secondly, has anyone yet looked to see if there is an inexpencive B&B in that area or near by? Mike Boyd Brisbane

Linde and others I was in Ireland last September and spent 9 days at PRONI. Worthwhile as that was, the best part of my trip occurred when I attended the Raffrey Presbyterian Church where my grandparents and great grandparents are buried. Most of cousins on that side of the family are now deceased. My great grandparents had 9 children, 5 of whom went to Australia, including all three of their sons. However, in talking with some of the church members, I discovered that there were still McClurgs in the area. I met them, they even invited me home for Sunday dinner. We compared family trees and discovered that her great grandfather and my great grandfather were brothers. Well preserved records are wonderful, but living kin are treasures. Hope you all find some. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "DIB" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Ballymena research trips and other genealogical tourism > > Dear Anne and others > > I think N.I. is beginning to wake up to the possibility of genealogy > tourism; I think gradually archives and libraries are noticing that > their role has changed; that they are not just protecting material > but should be actively involved in letting people access it; and all > worldwide people and not just NI taxpayers, as has sometimes been the > mindset. > > I think your idea is very useful; for people coming from abroad back > to Ulster, to help descendants connect in a meaningful way with > ancestors and an ancestral place; I am sure that everyone on this > list, in America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc, will see that > potential in a research trip, rather than just concentrating on > hoovering up birthdates to put into a database on the laptop. > > However, I think in one sense people coming to co. Antrim, is only > half of what really needs to be done; Ulster people need to > understand the value to them in a personal and historical way, not > just financially, of genealogy tourism. I am continually trying to > promote this idea (see my article in the latest Familia). Ulster lost > hundreds of thousands, if not millions of Ulster people; that was our > loss; our families were pulled apart. Who knows what the traumas > were; and the losses and traumas have been largely scarred over and > forgotten. If descendants from America, Canada... make the effort to > do historical research, and the even bigger effort to come back to > Ballymoney or Ballymena, that can help people in NI, even if not > themselves very interested in genealogy, begin to understand/ > remember. > > So I would say, don't just promote this idea to the international > community; make sure that you get the message out to NI media, so > that a very wide audience in the province can begin to see that > genealogy is not just an American/ Canadian/ etc hobby, but that it > could enable connections to be made that can acknowledge Ulster's > loss over the centuries. > > It would be worth contacting the ULster Scots Agency; for suggestions > and moral support and help with promotion, if not for a grant. > > Remember PRONI is going to be closed from this autumn > > Keep us informed! I'll be glad to help if I can, though I'm not from > Ballymena, and not especially well acquent there > > Linde Lunney

PRONI will be closed From September 2010 to May 2011 John Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: "Mike Boyd" <[email protected]> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:31:46 To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] PRONI's Closure Does anyone on the list know PRONI will close it Office at Balmoral. I understand that they will be moving to a new building in the Docks area of Belfast. So when will this new Office be opening. Secondly, has anyone yet looked to see if there is an inexpencive B&B in that area or near by? Mike Boyd Brisbane ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

They are closed from Sept.2010  to May 2011.  I understand some ot the "self service" things are being sent to a library someplace in Belfast and will be accessible.   Anne Shier Klintworth Check out my genealogy blog at http://genealogygirl.wordpress.com/ ----- Original Message ---- > From: Mike Boyd <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 10:31:46 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] PRONI's Closure > > Does anyone on the list know PRONI will close it Office at Balmoral. I > understand that they will be moving to a new building in the Docks area of > Belfast. So when will this new Office be opening. Secondly, > has anyone yet looked to see if there is an inexpencive B&B in that area > or near by? Mike Boyd Brisbane > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send > an email to > href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message

Anne, I would have loved to combine this kind of trip with the conference in Oct, but I didn't recall that PRONI would be closed at the same time, and a visit there is essential to my research. A trip soe other time would be of interest though. I appreciate your effort to organise something, or at least to generate interest. Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Klintworth" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 1:42 PM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Ballymena research trips Hello everyone. We have been talking with some people in Ballymena and would like to have the people on the list comment on the interest in research in the Ballymena area. What is your opinion of the possibility for small group trips to Ballymena, with local contact with people with local knowedge and familiar with the different townlands. Possibly to include research at the Ballymena Library, cemetery trips, and church visits. Probably with transportation incuded. Hopefully with the full cooperation with the local government, museum and library. The idea would be to help establish local contacts and the ability to gather local knowledge that has been collected by word of mouth as well as the records available. Do you think this type of trip would be of interest to a lot of people? It would definitely not be a big group tour. This would be a much more personalized type of thing. NI sightseeing would be optional, possibly outside of the group tour. Also a trip to PRONI and other Belfast research venues. I was asked to get your input on this subject and would appreciate any comments. Anne Anne Shier Klintworth Check out my genealogy blog at http://genealogygirl.wordpress.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hopefully by the time we have saved the money to enable us to visit everywhere we want to things will be up and running smoothly. Loads of family to meet (Hi Linde) and also loads to locate - when we make it over. Lynette ----- Original Message ----- From: "DIB" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Ballymena research trips and other genealogical tourism > > Dear Anne and others > > I think N.I. is beginning to wake up to the possibility of genealogy > tourism; I think gradually archives and libraries are noticing that > their role has changed; that they are not just protecting material > but should be actively involved in letting people access it; and all > worldwide people and not just NI taxpayers, as has sometimes been the > mindset. > > I think your idea is very useful; for people coming from abroad back > to Ulster, to help descendants connect in a meaningful way with > ancestors and an ancestral place; I am sure that everyone on this > list, in America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc, will see that > potential in a research trip, rather than just concentrating on > hoovering up birthdates to put into a database on the laptop. > > However, I think in one sense people coming to co. Antrim, is only > half of what really needs to be done; Ulster people need to > understand the value to them in a personal and historical way, not > just financially, of genealogy tourism. I am continually trying to > promote this idea (see my article in the latest Familia). Ulster lost > hundreds of thousands, if not millions of Ulster people; that was our > loss; our families were pulled apart. Who knows what the traumas > were; and the losses and traumas have been largely scarred over and > forgotten. If descendants from America, Canada... make the effort to > do historical research, and the even bigger effort to come back to > Ballymoney or Ballymena, that can help people in NI, even if not > themselves very interested in genealogy, begin to understand/ > remember. > > So I would say, don't just promote this idea to the international > community; make sure that you get the message out to NI media, so > that a very wide audience in the province can begin to see that > genealogy is not just an American/ Canadian/ etc hobby, but that it > could enable connections to be made that can acknowledge Ulster's > loss over the centuries. > > It would be worth contacting the ULster Scots Agency; for suggestions > and moral support and help with promotion, if not for a grant. > > Remember PRONI is going to be closed from this autumn > > Keep us informed! I'll be glad to help if I can, though I'm not from > Ballymena, and not especially well acquent there > > Linde Lunney > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Familia is the journal of the Ulster Historical Foundation, with articles mainly on family and some social history of NI and the former colonies, etc; it's sent out to UHF members. If you go to any of their lectures in America, they have the journals for sale, I think, and back numbers are available on their website. I'm not sure that they are selling the current one online just yet; I suppose they wait until next year to shift copies that they don't need to send to newly signed up members. Other than that, research libraries have it. Glad to hear your interest and sorry that I can't send or post online a copy of the aricle; the editor wouldn't like it if I did! Linde

Linde, Those are excellent points. It has certainly been my experience - people in NI are learning a lot from me about their past and I am learning a lot from them. It is definitely a two way street. Sharon Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Some Become Flowers: http://www.harbourpublishing.com/title/SomeBecomeFlowers Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl On 08/04/2010 12:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Dear Anne and others > > I think N.I. is beginning to wake up to the possibility of genealogy > tourism; I think gradually archives and libraries are noticing that > their role has changed; that they are not just protecting material > but should be actively involved in letting people access it; and all > worldwide people and not just NI taxpayers, as has sometimes been the > mindset. > > I think your idea is very useful; for people coming from abroad back > to Ulster, to help descendants connect in a meaningful way with > ancestors and an ancestral place; I am sure that everyone on this > list, in America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc, will see that > potential in a research trip, rather than just concentrating on > hoovering up birthdates to put into a database on the laptop. > > However, I think in one sense people coming to co. Antrim, is only > half of what really needs to be done; Ulster people need to > understand the value to them in a personal and historical way, not > just financially, of genealogy tourism. I am continually trying to > promote this idea (see my article in the latest Familia). Ulster lost > hundreds of thousands, if not millions of Ulster people; that was our > loss; our families were pulled apart. Who knows what the traumas > were; and the losses and traumas have been largely scarred over and > forgotten. If descendants from America, Canada... make the effort to > do historical research, and the even bigger effort to come back to > Ballymoney or Ballymena, that can help people in NI, even if not > themselves very interested in genealogy, begin to understand/ > remember. > > So I would say, don't just promote this idea to the international > community; make sure that you get the message out to NI media, so > that a very wide audience in the province can begin to see that > genealogy is not just an American/ Canadian/ etc hobby, but that it > could enable connections to be made that can acknowledge Ulster's > loss over the centuries. > > It would be worth contacting the ULster Scots Agency; for suggestions > and moral support and help with promotion, if not for a grant. > > Remember PRONI is going to be closed from this autumn > > Keep us informed! I'll be glad to help if I can, though I'm not from > Ballymena, and not especially well acquent there > > Linde Lunney > > > ------------------------------ > >

Hello Linde and all Sounds like some great ideas here. But have I missed something? I hadn't heard that PRONI was closing. You say it will be closed 'from this autumn' - does that mean closed for ever? Susan Wann -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of DIB Sent: Wednesday, 7 April 2010 5:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Ballymena research trips and other genealogical tourism Dear Anne and others I think N.I. is beginning to wake up to the possibility of genealogy tourism; I think gradually archives and libraries are noticing that their role has changed; that they are not just protecting material but should be actively involved in letting people access it; and all worldwide people and not just NI taxpayers, as has sometimes been the mindset. I think your idea is very useful; for people coming from abroad back to Ulster, to help descendants connect in a meaningful way with ancestors and an ancestral place; I am sure that everyone on this list, in America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc, will see that potential in a research trip, rather than just concentrating on hoovering up birthdates to put into a database on the laptop. However, I think in one sense people coming to co. Antrim, is only half of what really needs to be done; Ulster people need to understand the value to them in a personal and historical way, not just financially, of genealogy tourism. I am continually trying to promote this idea (see my article in the latest Familia). Ulster lost hundreds of thousands, if not millions of Ulster people; that was our loss; our families were pulled apart. Who knows what the traumas were; and the losses and traumas have been largely scarred over and forgotten. If descendants from America, Canada... make the effort to do historical research, and the even bigger effort to come back to Ballymoney or Ballymena, that can help people in NI, even if not themselves very interested in genealogy, begin to understand/ remember. So I would say, don't just promote this idea to the international community; make sure that you get the message out to NI media, so that a very wide audience in the province can begin to see that genealogy is not just an American/ Canadian/ etc hobby, but that it could enable connections to be made that can acknowledge Ulster's loss over the centuries. It would be worth contacting the ULster Scots Agency; for suggestions and moral support and help with promotion, if not for a grant. Remember PRONI is going to be closed from this autumn Keep us informed! I'll be glad to help if I can, though I'm not from Ballymena, and not especially well acquent there Linde Lunney ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Where does one find Familia to read your article? Thank you. On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 5:41 AM, DIB <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Anne and others > > I think N.I. is beginning to wake up to the possibility of genealogy > tourism; I think gradually archives and libraries are noticing that > their role has changed; that they are not just protecting material > but should be actively involved in letting people access it; and all > worldwide people and not just NI taxpayers, as has sometimes been the > mindset. > > I think your idea is very useful; for people coming from abroad back > to Ulster, to help descendants connect in a meaningful way with > ancestors and an ancestral place; I am sure that everyone on this > list, in America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc, will see that > potential in a research trip, rather than just concentrating on > hoovering up birthdates to put into a database on the laptop. > > However, I think in one sense people coming to co. Antrim, is only > half of what really needs to be done; Ulster people need to > understand the value to them in a personal and historical way, not > just financially, of genealogy tourism. I am continually trying to > promote this idea (see my article in the latest Familia). Ulster lost > hundreds of thousands, if not millions of Ulster people; that was our > loss; our families were pulled apart. Who knows what the traumas > were; and the losses and traumas have been largely scarred over and > forgotten. If descendants from America, Canada... make the effort to > do historical research, and the even bigger effort to come back to > Ballymoney or Ballymena, that can help people in NI, even if not > themselves very interested in genealogy, begin to understand/ > remember. > > So I would say, don't just promote this idea to the international > community; make sure that you get the message out to NI media, so > that a very wide audience in the province can begin to see that > genealogy is not just an American/ Canadian/ etc hobby, but that it > could enable connections to be made that can acknowledge Ulster's > loss over the centuries. > > It would be worth contacting the ULster Scots Agency; for suggestions > and moral support and help with promotion, if not for a grant. > > Remember PRONI is going to be closed from this autumn > > Keep us informed! I'll be glad to help if I can, though I'm not from > Ballymena, and not especially well acquent there > > Linde Lunney > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Anne and others I think N.I. is beginning to wake up to the possibility of genealogy tourism; I think gradually archives and libraries are noticing that their role has changed; that they are not just protecting material but should be actively involved in letting people access it; and all worldwide people and not just NI taxpayers, as has sometimes been the mindset. I think your idea is very useful; for people coming from abroad back to Ulster, to help descendants connect in a meaningful way with ancestors and an ancestral place; I am sure that everyone on this list, in America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc, will see that potential in a research trip, rather than just concentrating on hoovering up birthdates to put into a database on the laptop. However, I think in one sense people coming to co. Antrim, is only half of what really needs to be done; Ulster people need to understand the value to them in a personal and historical way, not just financially, of genealogy tourism. I am continually trying to promote this idea (see my article in the latest Familia). Ulster lost hundreds of thousands, if not millions of Ulster people; that was our loss; our families were pulled apart. Who knows what the traumas were; and the losses and traumas have been largely scarred over and forgotten. If descendants from America, Canada... make the effort to do historical research, and the even bigger effort to come back to Ballymoney or Ballymena, that can help people in NI, even if not themselves very interested in genealogy, begin to understand/ remember. So I would say, don't just promote this idea to the international community; make sure that you get the message out to NI media, so that a very wide audience in the province can begin to see that genealogy is not just an American/ Canadian/ etc hobby, but that it could enable connections to be made that can acknowledge Ulster's loss over the centuries. It would be worth contacting the ULster Scots Agency; for suggestions and moral support and help with promotion, if not for a grant. Remember PRONI is going to be closed from this autumn Keep us informed! I'll be glad to help if I can, though I'm not from Ballymena, and not especially well acquent there Linde Lunney

Closed from Sept to May because they are moving to a new building.   Anne Shier Klintworth Check out my genealogy blog at http://genealogygirl.wordpress.com/ ----- Original Message ---- > From: Susan Wann <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wed, April 7, 2010 9:06:46 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Ballymena research trips and other genealogical tourism > > Hello Linde and all Sounds like some great ideas here. But have I missed > something? I hadn't heard that PRONI was closing. You say it will be closed > 'from this autumn' - does that mean closed for ever? Susan Wann > -----Original Message----- From: > ymailto="mailto:[email protected]" > href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected] [mailto:> ymailto="mailto:[email protected]" > href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]] > On Behalf Of DIB Sent: Wednesday, 7 April 2010 5:42 PM To: > ymailto="mailto:[email protected]" > href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected] Subject: > Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Ballymena research trips and other > genealogical tourism Dear Anne and others I think N.I. is > beginning to wake up to the possibility of genealogy tourism; I think > gradually archives and libraries are  noticing that their role has > changed; that they are not just protecting material but should be actively > involved in letting people access it; and all worldwide people and not just > NI taxpayers, as has sometimes been the mindset. I think your idea is > very useful; for people coming from abroad back to Ulster, to help > descendants connect in a meaningful way with ancestors and an ancestral > place; I am sure that everyone on this list, in America, Canada, Australia, > New Zealand, etc, will see that potential in a research trip, rather than > just concentrating on hoovering up birthdates to put into a database on the > laptop. However, I think in one sense people coming to co. Antrim, is > only half of what really needs to be done; Ulster people need to > understand the value to  them in a personal and historical way, not > just financially, of genealogy tourism. I am continually trying to > promote this idea (see my article in the latest Familia). Ulster lost > hundreds of thousands, if not millions of Ulster people; that was our > loss; our families were pulled apart. Who knows what the traumas were; > and the losses and traumas have been largely scarred over and forgotten. If > descendants from America, Canada... make the effort to do historical > research, and the even bigger effort to come back to Ballymoney or > Ballymena, that can help people in NI, even if not themselves very > interested in genealogy, begin to understand/ remember. So I would > say, don't just promote this idea to the international community; make sure > that you get the message out to NI media, so that a very wide audience in > the province can begin to see that genealogy is not just an American/ > Canadian/ etc hobby, but that it could enable connections to be made that > can acknowledge Ulster's loss over the centuries. It would be worth > contacting the ULster Scots Agency; for suggestions and moral support and > help with promotion, if not for a grant. Remember PRONI is going to be > closed from this autumn Keep us informed! I'll be glad to help if I can, > though I'm not from Ballymena, and not especially well acquent > there Linde Lunney ------------------------------- To > unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ymailto="mailto:[email protected]" > href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from > the list, please send an email to > ymailto="mailto:[email protected]" > href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message

Hello Anne All that I have been able to find out is: Francis Mooney married Sarah Patterson on 8 Jan 1865. Sarah was born 1 Apr 1846 and the details list Ballymena Antrim NI. Sarah's parents were William Patterson and Jane Cuthbertson. The good news is Sarah and Farncis Mooney has a daughter named Annie Beatrice Mooney who married William Gardner and they had 2 daughters in Antrim and then another in Brisbane Australia. We found Annie's grave in Brisbane and have that all on record. This is my wife's side of the family. The Ballymena details for the Pattersons and Cuthbertsons is unavailable, hence my interest and our significant investment to try and find more details. WE have good details but not all of the Gardner family who may have come from Scotland to Belfast. Any guidance would be appreciated John Meyers

If you would remind me next week after I get home I can look to see if by some chance I have something on these families.  I know beofre 1865 it is very hard to track people down!   Anne Shier Klintworth Check out my genealogy blog at http://genealogygirl.wordpress.com/ ----- Original Message ---- > From: John Meyers <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 8:57:32 PM > Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Ballymena research trips > > Hello Anne All that I have been able to find out is: Francis Mooney > married Sarah Patterson on 8 Jan 1865. Sarah was born 1 Apr 1846 and the > details list Ballymena Antrim NI. Sarah's parents were William Patterson and > Jane Cuthbertson. The good news is Sarah and Farncis Mooney has a > daughter named Annie Beatrice Mooney who married William Gardner and they had > 2 daughters in Antrim and then another in Brisbane Australia. We found > Annie's grave in Brisbane and have that all on record. This is my wife's side > of the family. The Ballymena details for the Pattersons and Cuthbertsons is > unavailable, hence my interest and our significant investment to try and find > more details. WE have good details but not all of the Gardner family who may > have come from Scotland to Belfast. Any guidance would be > appreciated John Meyers > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send > an email to > href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message

Anne Your group will need to contact Keith Beattie, who is the Museum Officer at the Ballymoney Council, and is part of the organising team for te Ballymoney Home comming 1-3 october. (Email [email protected]) You will need to contact Michael Lynn, the Local Studies Librarian (Email [email protected] ) at Ballymena. He should be able to put you in tough with Tourist People and Chairman of the Council for the Ballymean area. On my 2007 visit I meet Eull Dunlop from the Mid-Antrim Historical Group. Sorry I do not have an Email for him, but they and Michael Lynn should be able to supply the local knowledge you are after. Then you have to single named net groups, with Scottish names or origins. Plus the old Irish family names for the area as well. While a friend from County Antrim said that there was a Boyd in every townland in County Antrim (which I do not beleive), but you will find us in most graveyards. You have Boyd centered around Ballymoney and at Ballycastle and Bushmills. Although there seems to be quite a number around Ballymena, whoever their origins before coming to Ballymena is not known to me. One would ASSUME Ayrshire, so knowning the local history will be quite useful in finding where these Boyd families came from. (I assume it would apply to other family names as well.) I think that I have some 70 Boyd family Branches that come from County Antrim, plus more that only know that they came from Ireland that could come from Antrim. The second "Tourist" aspect that seems to be have been forgotten, is where people form the British Commonwealth and America were stationed during the WWI and WWII. Next year, I am hoping to go to the Somme Battlefield, to see where my grandfather was wounded. But it would be interesting for grandchildren, etc to be able to come to places where people were based to see "where" their family members was stationed and even to go to the "pub" they used to drink at, or church, etc. This may require involvement form the British Legion. While I will be going to Ballymoney this year in October, I am hoping that I can come to something for Ballymean next year. Hope that helps you. Mike Boyd Chairman Historical Committee, HBS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Klintworth" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 4:30 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Ballymena research trips Thanks for the input. Would you be willing to email Jayne Clarke the curator at the Braid Museum? [email protected] She is working on trying to put some things together on just those lines. She intends to be at the Ballymoney Conference in October. I am sure she would appreciate any assistance you could give her. Just as a side note, she is not the one who has asked me about the research trips. We have been in contact with her because we are just finishing a project photographing burial and registration books for the cemeteries under control of the Borough Council. Anne Anne Shier Klintworth Check out my genealogy blog at http://genealogygirl.wordpress.com/ ----- Original Message ---- > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 2:20:13 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Ballymena research trips > > Anne, Ballymena has recently been on the radar screen for a > few Scotch-Irish family email lists I am on. I think an opportunity to > receive some pointed guidance by locals who actually understand > genealogy would be a huge plus. Rootsweb lists: Scotch-Irish and Boyd > have had members discussing specifics of Ballymena focused trips this > Spring. There #1 question to those of us with some experience is - > Where do I go in Ballymena I'll be in Balleymoney for their October > conference mainly to spread the word to the local genealogy/history > facilities about this need. The numbers of Scotch-Irish researchers is > large and growing. Unfortunately, Ulster is largely unaware of their > existence. As a co-author of the 1718 web site > _http://www.1718migration.org.uk/_ (http://www.1718migration.org.uk/) > ; I spent some time with the Ulster-Scots Agency in Belfast discussing > this very need. I am beginning to see some little sprouts of those > seeds we planted about 4 years ago. The east Donegal Historical > Society was the first (that I know of) to create a genealogy/history > conference. Londonderry and then Balleymoney were next in > creating an actual 2 day event and marketing it to the genealogy > universe. They need work on that marketing, conference program, and > accommodations BUT they are doing it. That will get them immediate > rewards. I don't want to take more email space, but the key is > "full cooperation". You get a commitment, then involve all groups, you > will get a good response. Make it work and you'll get universal > acclaim as a "to do trip" for genealogists and families for many > generations. Colin Brooks The 1718 Project Quakertown, PA USA > In a message dated 4/1/2010 1:43:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected] writes: Hello > everyone. We have been talking with some people in Ballymena and > would like to have the people on the list comment on the interest in > research in the Ballymena area. What is your opinion of the > possibility for small group trips to Ballymena, with local contact > with people with local knowledge and familiar with the different > townlands. Possibly to include research at the Ballymena > Library, cemetery trips, and church visits. Probably with > transportation included. Hopefully with the full cooperation > with the local government, museum and library. The idea would > be to help establish local contacts and the ability to gather local > knowledge that has been collected by word of mouth as well as the > records available. Do you think this type of trip would be of > interest to a lot of people? It would definitely not be a big > group tour. This would be a much more personalized type of > thing. NI sightseeing would be optional, possibly outside of the > group tour. Also a trip to PRONI and other Belfast research > venues. I was asked to get your input on this subject and > would appreciate any comments. Anne Anne > Shier Klintworth Check out my genealogy bog at > http://genealogygirl.wordpress.com/ ------------------------------- To > unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ymailto="mailto:[email protected]" > href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message ------------------------------- To > unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ymailto="mailto:[email protected]" > href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Morning Anne's suggestion is extraordinarily good. However, we live in regional Australia and did get to visit Belfast in 2006 where we were struck by the lack of support from officials et al in helping my wife with her research. Perhaps we could be allowed to become part of wider team whose interest in Ballymena could be addressed with a list of questions that still exist even after some great help from those on this list. Sadly our significant costs to a research organisation in NI did very little to answer some of our questions. In summary, if there is a way for us to be partially included soon, we welcome any ideas. John and Clare in Port Macquarie Australia

I passed our question on.  I am not sure how much can be done at the beginning.  This is just a seed of an idea at the moment.    What townlands were you interested in? Anne Shier Klintworth Check out my genealogy blog at http://genealogygirl.wordpress.com/ ----- Original Message ---- > From: John Meyers <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Fri, April 2, 2010 6:47:43 PM > Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Ballymena research trips > > Morning Anne's suggestion is extraordinarily good. However, we live in > regional Australia and did get to visit Belfast in 2006 where we were struck > by the lack of support from officials et al in helping my wife with her > research. Perhaps we could be allowed to become part of wider team whose > interest in Ballymena could be addressed with a list of questions that still > exist even after some great help from those on this list. Sadly our > significant costs to a research organisation in NI did very little to answer > some of our questions. In summary, if there is a way for us to be partially > included soon, we welcome any ideas. John and Clare in Port Macquarie > Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from > the list, please send an email to > ymailto="mailto:[email protected]" > href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message