Linda I toll would like a copy> thanks for your offer. Elaine [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff. Johnston Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 9:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] IRL-ANTRIM Digest, Vol 5, Issue 57 Linda, Ditto on wanting and appreciating a copy. Thank you :-) Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deborah Adles" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] IRL-ANTRIM Digest, Vol 5, Issue 57 >I would appreciate a copy. Thank you. > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 5:35 AM, Ronald Chesney > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> hi Linda >> >> I would like a copy of the list >> >> Thanks >> >> Ron Chesney >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> > Message: 1 >> > Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:07:49 EDT >> > From: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Adam Boyd- Ballymena or Ballymoney >> > To: [email protected], [email protected] >> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> > >> > One of the files at PRONI is the Adair family archives. Originals are >> > held at the Suffolk Record Office, Lowestoft Branch in England. The >> > indexes >> > have been filmed by the LDS Library on FHL BRITISH Film >> > 258761. I was so excited when I found the file, I closed my eyes and >> > asked that the entire file be photocopied. :D $55 later and I took >> the >> > file >> > home. >> > While the main focus of the files are the Adair family, quite a large >> > section is devoted to rentals they had in the Ballymena area 1600 - >> > 1700's. >> > Listings in those indexes can include 3 generations of family. >> > It takes mass time to go through these indexes because there is no >> > order >> > to >> > the way they are listed but the payoff can be fantastic. Worth the >> > time >> > to do some research there. The items included are fairly long but I >> will >> > email that list to anyone who is interested. >> > >> > Linda >> > >> > Linda >> > >> > >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.814 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2827 - Release Date: 04/22/10 >> 04:31:00 >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've not had the book open for a number of years and I've learned a few things in looking for a sample to post.  First of all, the Adair Family Archives (reference # HA12 and from A-E , i.e. HA12/A1) mostly concerns the estate in England.  HA12/F concerns the Irish estates and while there are still 40-50 pages of leases, it isn't quite the amt. I originally thought were there. Secondly, I probably gave the wrong impression when I mentioned a list.  If it were a list of index entries, we'd all be a whole lot happier.  Unfortunately, it's a listing of what's in these Archives.  (Irish entries marked in red) Suffolk Record Office, Lowestoft Branch   Adair Family Archives [HA12/A1/1 - HA12/A11/4] ADAIR FAMILY ARCHIVES The entire contents of this catalogue are shown below. Browse the hierarchical structure instead Reference HA12 Covering dates c1100-1951 Held by Suffolk Record Office, Lowestoft Branch Extent 61 Series Source of acquisition Additional Deposits Accession 4553 deposited 1978 Accession 6864 deposited 11 September 1984 Creators Adair family, baronets, of Flixton Hall; Tasburgh family of Flixton, Suffolk Related information Transferred to the Public Record Office in Northern Ireland Contents: HA12/A Family and Personal, Local and Official HA12/A1 Tasburgh Family HA12/A2 Adair Family: general HA12/A3 William Adair HA12/A4 Alexander Adair HA12/A5 Robert Shafto Adair HA12/A6 Sir Robert Alexander Shafto Adair HA12/A7 Shafto Adair HA12/A8 Sir Frederick Adair HA12/A9 Ecclesiastical Patronage HA12/A10 Schools HA12/A11 Persons not members of the Tasburgh or Adair families HA12/B Suffolk Estate: Evidences of Title HA12/B1 Miscellaneous collections (see note at beginning of this section) HA12/B2 Early deeds (see note at beginning of this section) HA12/B3 Family settlements and general evidences of title HA12/B4 Numbered bundles (see note at beginning of this section) HA12/B5 Other later title deeds. HA12/C Suffolk Estate: Manorial Administration HA12/C1 Feudal and honorial HA12/C2 Manor of Southelmham HA12/C3 Manor of Flixton (Priory) HA12/C4 Manor of Boyses in Flixton HA12/C5 Manors of Sancroft and Newhall in Flixton HA12/C6 Manor of Cratfield Roos HA12/C7 Manor of Creeting St. Olave HA12/C8 Manor of Depden HA12/C9 Manor of Naughton HA12/C10 Manor of Redlingfield HA12/C11 Miscellaneous manorial records HA12/D Suffolk Estate: Estate Management HA12/D1 General accounts and vouchers HA12/D2 Rent accounts and vouchers HA12/D3 Particulars and valuations of the estate HA12/D4 Maps and plans HA12/D5 Clerk of the Works' reports and relative papers HA12/D6 Correspondence and letter books HA12/D7 Lands Improvement Company HA12/D8 Tenancy agreements and relative papers HA12/D9 Farms in hand HA12/D10 Home Farm, with Cooper's, Abbey and Grange Farms: also Flixton Hall Farm HA12/D11 Southelmham Hall Farm and Roberson's Farm HA12/D12 St. Peter's or Freestone's Farm HA12/D13 Shadow Barn Farm (Ilketshall St. Margaret) HA12/D14 St. Andrew's Farm HA12/D15 Shotford Hall Farm (Mendham) HA12/D16 Hill or Harvey's Farm, Redlingfield HA12/D17 Dandy's Farm HA12/D18 Ixworth Farm HA12/D19 Unidentified Farms HA12/D20 Blacksmith HA12/D21 Coachman HA12/D22 Gamekeeper HA12/D23 Gardener HA12/D24 Woodman HA12/D25 Timber-yard HA12/D26 Brick-kiln, St. Cross HA12/D27 General and miscellaneous HA12/E Suffolk Estate: Legal Papers HA12/E1 Flixton Tithe cause HA12/E2 Other causes HA12/F Irish Estate HA12/F1 Evidences of title HA12/F2 Leases and relative documents HA12/F3 Rentals and accounts HA12/F4 Records arising from the management of the estate, including some records of a semi-official nature HA12/G Suffolk Estate (Additional) HA12/G1 Accounts and rentals HA12/G2 Reference and record books HA12/G3 Letter books HA12/G4 Maps and plans HA12/6864/1-21 Various Flixton Hall Estate records (additional) For those of you who find a listing of interest,  this index may be all you have access to.  When I did and I contacted the Suffolk Record Office, I was told I'd have to contact the Adair family attorney.  What I was asking for pertained to Adair family history and I was delighted to know there was one.  :D  Unfortunately, they couldn't or wouldn't give me the name of that person. In any case, the indexes themselves can give a great deal of information but it's a matter of looking at entry by entry. I'm so sorry if I gave the wrong impression. Linda

I would like a copy please. -----Original Message----- From: Cliff. Johnston <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, Apr 22, 2010 9:59 am Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] IRL-ANTRIM Digest, Vol 5, Issue 57 Linda, Ditto on wanting and appreciating a copy. Thank you :-) Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deborah Adles" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] IRL-ANTRIM Digest, Vol 5, Issue 57 >I would appreciate a copy. Thank you. > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 5:35 AM, Ronald Chesney > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> hi Linda >> >> I would like a copy of the list >> >> Thanks >> >> Ron Chesney >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> > Message: 1 >> > Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:07:49 EDT >> > From: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Adam Boyd- Ballymena or Ballymoney >> > To: [email protected], [email protected] >> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> > >> > One of the files at PRONI is the Adair family archives. Originals are >> > held at the Suffolk Record Office, Lowestoft Branch in England. The >> > indexes >> > have been filmed by the LDS Library on FHL BRITISH Film >> > 258761. I was so excited when I found the file, I closed my eyes and >> > asked that the entire file be photocopied. :D $55 later and I took >> the >> > file >> > home. >> > While the main focus of the files are the Adair family, quite a large >> > section is devoted to rentals they had in the Ballymena area 1600 - >> > 1700's. >> > Listings in those indexes can include 3 generations of family. >> > It takes mass time to go through these indexes because there is no >> > order >> > to >> > the way they are listed but the payoff can be fantastic. Worth the >> > time >> > to do some research there. The items included are fairly long but I >> will >> > email that list to anyone who is interested. >> > >> > Linda >> > >> > Linda >> > >> > >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.814 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2827 - Release Date: 04/22/10 >> 04:31:00 >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

moi aussi, thanks Linda. Wendy > Linda, > > Ditto on wanting and appreciating a copy. > > Thank you :-) > > Cliff. Johnston > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see;" > from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Deborah Adles" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:40 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] IRL-ANTRIM Digest, Vol 5, Issue 57 > > >>I would appreciate a copy. Thank you. >> >> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 5:35 AM, Ronald Chesney >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> hi Linda >>> >>> I would like a copy of the list >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Ron Chesney >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> > Message: 1 >>> > Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:07:49 EDT >>> > From: [email protected] >>> > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Adam Boyd- Ballymena or Ballymoney >>> > To: [email protected], [email protected] >>> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >>> > >>> > One of the files at PRONI is the Adair family archives. Originals >>> are >>> > held at the Suffolk Record Office, Lowestoft Branch in England. The >>> > indexes >>> > have been filmed by the LDS Library on FHL BRITISH Film >>> > 258761. I was so excited when I found the file, I closed my eyes >>> and >>> > asked that the entire file be photocopied. :D $55 later and I >>> took >>> the >>> > file >>> > home. >>> > While the main focus of the files are the Adair family, quite a large >>> > section is devoted to rentals they had in the Ballymena area 1600 - >>> > 1700's. >>> > Listings in those indexes can include 3 generations of family. >>> > It takes mass time to go through these indexes because there is no >>> > order >>> > to >>> > the way they are listed but the payoff can be fantastic. Worth the >>> > time >>> > to do some research there. The items included are fairly long but I >>> will >>> > email that list to anyone who is interested. >>> > >>> > Linda >>> > >>> > Linda >>> > >>> > >>> >>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 9.0.814 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2827 - Release Date: >>> 04/22/10 >>> 04:31:00 >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ---------------------------- Powered by Execulink Webmail http://www.execulink.com/

I would appreciate a copy as well. Thank you Ann D.

Colin These are some of the deals that I have of Rev Adam Boyd:- >From Pennsylvania Genealogies, William H. Egle, 1886, pp 323-324: "His [Adam Boyd's, grandson of Rev. Adam Boyd] ancestors were of that sturdy and fearless race, who, after winning religious liberty at home, braved the perils of the ocean and a life in the wilds of America, that they might establish civil and religious freedom in the New World. The ancestor of this family was Adam Boyd, an officer of the rank of captain in the army sent by Charles I, to Ireland, on the roll of Scottish division June 6, 1649. As was usual in Scotland, one of the sons, Adam (2) went into the Church; his son Adam (3) was also a Presbyterian clergyman. Early in 1714, his son John (4) and a younger brother, Rev. Adam Boyd, left their native land, Scotland, arriving at Philadelphia in the summer of that year." This gives us the following lineage: O1 Adam Boyd (I) - captain in the army sent by Charles I (reign 1625-1649) to Ireland. P1 Rev. Adam Boyd (II) Q1 Rev Adam Boyd (III) - b. 1666, Presby. clergyman, married Mary Norton, dau of Mr Norton, b 16xx, d 17xx, and had issue:- Children: R1 John Boyd R2 Rev. Adam Boyd (IV) James Curran's work of 1995, p 10, has the following:- "If this lineage is correct, then our Rev. Adam Boyd is clearly Adam Boyd [R2]. I must admit, however, to two qualms in all this. First, this lineage has John Boyd [R1] marrying Jane Craig, daughter of Thomas in 1715. Similarly, Rev. Adam [R2] married Jane Craighead, daughter of Thomas in 1723. Not impossible, but the stories are so much alike as to raise a serious question. Second, it contains the statement '1714. John and his younger brother, Rev. Adam Boyd, Sr., left Scotland and came to Philadelphia.' On the face of it, this statement is demonstrably wrong. Rev. Adam Boyd did not leave from Scotland, he did not come in 1714, and he did not come to Philadelphia. However, there is, of course, the possibility that he did travel with his older brother in 1714, even he was not a minister at the time, and then returned to Ireland to enter upon his first trials in Coleraine. This quotation from William H. Egle, would suguest to me that IF THIS TREE IS CORRECT, that Captain Adam Boyd had come from Scotland as part of Monroe's Army of 1642 and WAS THEREFORE MOST LIKELY NOT RELATED TO ANY OF THE OTHER ADAM BOYD'S IN ANTRIM BEFORE 1642 - ie not a brother, cousin but a more distant Boyd family. R2 Adam Boyd, b 1692 (Ballymoney, Co. Antrim), d 23/11/1768 (Parkesburg, Chester Co. PA), bu United Congregation of Upper Octorara, Lancaster Co., PA, m 23/10/1725 ( , ), Jane Creaghead/Craighead, dau of Rev Thomas and Margaret (nee Wallace) Creaghead, of White Clay, b 17xx (Ireland), d 9/11/1779 ( ), bu and had issue:- [Lived: ] >From the 1994 IGI for the UK it has these entries for an Adam Boyd, WHO WOULD APPEAR TO BE THE ABOVE:- Adam BOYD (M)............ B: 1692 B: 25 Apr 1942 Ba: 8802033 2 Father: BOYD Ballymoney,, Antrim, Ireland E: 12 Jun 1945 LOGAN So: 1396468 SP: 10 May 1988 JRIVE Adam BOYD (M)............ B: 1692 B: 25 Apr 1942 Ba: 8724706 36 (no parents listed) Ballymoney District, Antrim, E: 12 Jun 1945 LOGAN So: 1396401 Ireland Adam BOYD (M)............ B: 1692 B: 9 Jul 1992 JRIVE F#: 1760968 * (no parents listed) , Ulster Province, Ireland E: 23 Sep 1992 JRIVE ? - "The sources of biographical data on Adam Boyd differ quite strongly on where he was born, splitting between Ballymoney (which seems to be more widely agreed on) and Ballymena - both in Co. Antrim Northern Ireland. Note that these IGI entries are from someone family tree and are not Church Records. So they are not positive proof that Rev Adam was born in Ballymoney. The bulk of the following quote comes from A History of the Presbyterian Church in America from its origin until the year 1760, Rev. Richard Webster, 1857 with the additions marked "JM" coming from the History of the Presbyterian Church in Forks of the Brandywine, Chester, Co., Pa, James M'Clure, 1885 and those marked "JSF" coming from One Hundred and Fiftieth Anniversary of the Upper Octorara Church, J. Smith Futhey, 1870: ADAM BOYD (R2) Was born at Ballymoney, Ireland, in 1692, and came to New England as a probationer in 1722 or '23. [JM - He supplied, for some time, the pulpit left vacant at Dedham, Mass., by the death of the Rev. Joseph Belcher, and also officiated in other churches near Boston; but, having been disappointed in his expectation of a settlement, he concluded to return to his native country.] He was furnished by Cotton Mather with a commendatory certificate [JSF: A copy, in Cotton Mather's handwriting, has been preserved among the Mather MSS in the library of the American Antiquarian Society, at Worcester, Massachusetts.]: In 1692, there were Boyd families in Both Ballymoney and Ballymena, so both are equally possible. Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 12:37 AM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Adam Boyd- Ballymena or Ballymoney > Currently I am working on a link between the four states in America which > the Scotch-Irish settled into circa 1718. I have two men I was oping to > get > some Irl-Antrim list help on. > > Adam Boyd born 1692 is mentioned as of Ballymena or Ballymoney. He has a > brother named John born 1690. Rumor is they descend from an Adam line of > patriarchs back to Scotland pre-Plantation era. Adam becomes a Reverend > and > marries into the Craighead family which has connections to the Rev. > Homes/Holmes families of Ulster and New England. > > Can any one help me prove which townland is the right one for Adam. Given > the pre-colonial ignorance of townland name spellings it would be one of > the > above. Just which one?? > > Colin Brooks > The 1718 Project > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've not had the book open for a number of years and I've learned a few things in looking for a sample to post.  First of all, the Adair Family Archives (reference # HA12 and from A-E , i.e. HA12/A1) mostly concerns the estate in England.  HA12/F concerns the Irish estates and while there are still 40-50 pages of leases, it isn't quite the amt. I originally thought were there. Secondly, I probably gave the wrong impression when I mentioned a list.  If it were a list of index entries, we'd all be a whole lot happier.  Unfortunately, it's a listing of what's in these Archives.  (Irish entries marked in red) Suffolk Record Office, Lowestoft Branch   Adair Family Archives [HA12/A1/1 - HA12/A11/4] ADAIR FAMILY ARCHIVES The entire contents of this catalogue are shown below. Browse the hierarchical structure instead Reference HA12 Covering dates c1100-1951 Held by Suffolk Record Office, Lowestoft Branch Extent 61 Series Source of acquisition Additional Deposits Accession 4553 deposited 1978 Accession 6864 deposited 11 September 1984 Creators Adair family, baronets, of Flixton Hall; Tasburgh family of Flixton, Suffolk Related information Transferred to the Public Record Office in Northern Ireland Contents: HA12/A Family and Personal, Local and Official HA12/A1 Tasburgh Family HA12/A2 Adair Family: general HA12/A3 William Adair HA12/A4 Alexander Adair HA12/A5 Robert Shafto Adair HA12/A6 Sir Robert Alexander Shafto Adair HA12/A7 Shafto Adair HA12/A8 Sir Frederick Adair HA12/A9 Ecclesiastical Patronage HA12/A10 Schools HA12/A11 Persons not members of the Tasburgh or Adair families HA12/B Suffolk Estate: Evidences of Title HA12/B1 Miscellaneous collections (see note at beginning of this section) HA12/B2 Early deeds (see note at beginning of this section) HA12/B3 Family settlements and general evidences of title HA12/B4 Numbered bundles (see note at beginning of this section) HA12/B5 Other later title deeds. HA12/C Suffolk Estate: Manorial Administration HA12/C1 Feudal and honorial HA12/C2 Manor of Southelmham HA12/C3 Manor of Flixton (Priory) HA12/C4 Manor of Boyses in Flixton HA12/C5 Manors of Sancroft and Newhall in Flixton HA12/C6 Manor of Cratfield Roos HA12/C7 Manor of Creeting St. Olave HA12/C8 Manor of Depden HA12/C9 Manor of Naughton HA12/C10 Manor of Redlingfield HA12/C11 Miscellaneous manorial records HA12/D Suffolk Estate: Estate Management HA12/D1 General accounts and vouchers HA12/D2 Rent accounts and vouchers HA12/D3 Particulars and valuations of the estate HA12/D4 Maps and plans HA12/D5 Clerk of the Works' reports and relative papers HA12/D6 Correspondence and letter books HA12/D7 Lands Improvement Company HA12/D8 Tenancy agreements and relative papers HA12/D9 Farms in hand HA12/D10 Home Farm, with Cooper's, Abbey and Grange Farms: also Flixton Hall Farm HA12/D11 Southelmham Hall Farm and Roberson's Farm HA12/D12 St. Peter's or Freestone's Farm HA12/D13 Shadow Barn Farm (Ilketshall St. Margaret) HA12/D14 St. Andrew's Farm HA12/D15 Shotford Hall Farm (Mendham) HA12/D16 Hill or Harvey's Farm, Redlingfield HA12/D17 Dandy's Farm HA12/D18 Ixworth Farm HA12/D19 Unidentified Farms HA12/D20 Blacksmith HA12/D21 Coachman HA12/D22 Gamekeeper HA12/D23 Gardener HA12/D24 Woodman HA12/D25 Timber-yard HA12/D26 Brick-kiln, St. Cross HA12/D27 General and miscellaneous HA12/E Suffolk Estate: Legal Papers HA12/E1 Flixton Tithe cause HA12/E2 Other causes HA12/F Irish Estate HA12/F1 Evidences of title HA12/F2 Leases and relative documents HA12/F3 Rentals and accounts HA12/F4 Records arising from the management of the estate, including some records of a semi-official nature HA12/G Suffolk Estate (Additional) HA12/G1 Accounts and rentals HA12/G2 Reference and record books HA12/G3 Letter books HA12/G4 Maps and plans HA12/6864/1-21 Various Flixton Hall Estate records (additional) For those of you who find a listing of interest,  this index may be all you have access to.  When I did and I contacted the Suffolk Record Office, I was told I'd have to contact the Adair family attorney.  What I was asking for pertained to Adair family history and I was delighted to know there was one.  :D  Unfortunately, they couldn't or wouldn't give me the name of that person. In any case, the indexes themselves can give a great deal of information but it's a matter of looking at entry by entry. I'm so sorry if I gave the wrong impression. Linda

I would appreciate a copy. Thank you. On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 5:35 AM, Ronald Chesney <[email protected]>wrote: > hi Linda > > I would like a copy of the list > > Thanks > > Ron Chesney > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:07:49 EDT > > From: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Adam Boyd- Ballymena or Ballymoney > > To: [email protected], [email protected] > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > One of the files at PRONI is the Adair family archives. Originals are > > held at the Suffolk Record Office, Lowestoft Branch in England. The > > indexes > > have been filmed by the LDS Library on FHL BRITISH Film > > 258761. I was so excited when I found the file, I closed my eyes and > > asked that the entire file be photocopied. :D $55 later and I took > the > > file > > home. > > While the main focus of the files are the Adair family, quite a large > > section is devoted to rentals they had in the Ballymena area 1600 - > > 1700's. > > Listings in those indexes can include 3 generations of family. > > It takes mass time to go through these indexes because there is no order > > to > > the way they are listed but the payoff can be fantastic. Worth the time > > to do some research there. The items included are fairly long but I > will > > email that list to anyone who is interested. > > > > Linda > > > > Linda > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.814 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2827 - Release Date: 04/22/10 > 04:31:00 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Linda, I would also appreciate seeing this list, thanks! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff. Johnston Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] IRL-ANTRIM Digest, Vol 5, Issue 57 Linda, Ditto on wanting and appreciating a copy. Thank you :-) Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deborah Adles" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] IRL-ANTRIM Digest, Vol 5, Issue 57 >I would appreciate a copy. Thank you. > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 5:35 AM, Ronald Chesney > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> hi Linda >> >> I would like a copy of the list >> >> Thanks >> >> Ron Chesney >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> > Message: 1 >> > Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:07:49 EDT >> > From: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Adam Boyd- Ballymena or Ballymoney >> > To: [email protected], [email protected] >> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> > >> > One of the files at PRONI is the Adair family archives. Originals are >> > held at the Suffolk Record Office, Lowestoft Branch in England. The >> > indexes >> > have been filmed by the LDS Library on FHL BRITISH Film >> > 258761. I was so excited when I found the file, I closed my eyes and >> > asked that the entire file be photocopied. :D $55 later and I took >> the >> > file >> > home. >> > While the main focus of the files are the Adair family, quite a large >> > section is devoted to rentals they had in the Ballymena area 1600 - >> > 1700's. >> > Listings in those indexes can include 3 generations of family. >> > It takes mass time to go through these indexes because there is no >> > order >> > to >> > the way they are listed but the payoff can be fantastic. Worth the >> > time >> > to do some research there. The items included are fairly long but I >> will >> > email that list to anyone who is interested. >> > >> > Linda >> > >> > Linda >> > >> > >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.814 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2827 - Release Date: 04/22/10 >> 04:31:00 >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Linda, Ditto on wanting and appreciating a copy. Thank you :-) Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deborah Adles" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] IRL-ANTRIM Digest, Vol 5, Issue 57 >I would appreciate a copy. Thank you. > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 5:35 AM, Ronald Chesney > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> hi Linda >> >> I would like a copy of the list >> >> Thanks >> >> Ron Chesney >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> > Message: 1 >> > Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:07:49 EDT >> > From: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Adam Boyd- Ballymena or Ballymoney >> > To: [email protected], [email protected] >> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> > >> > One of the files at PRONI is the Adair family archives. Originals are >> > held at the Suffolk Record Office, Lowestoft Branch in England. The >> > indexes >> > have been filmed by the LDS Library on FHL BRITISH Film >> > 258761. I was so excited when I found the file, I closed my eyes and >> > asked that the entire file be photocopied. :D $55 later and I took >> the >> > file >> > home. >> > While the main focus of the files are the Adair family, quite a large >> > section is devoted to rentals they had in the Ballymena area 1600 - >> > 1700's. >> > Listings in those indexes can include 3 generations of family. >> > It takes mass time to go through these indexes because there is no >> > order >> > to >> > the way they are listed but the payoff can be fantastic. Worth the >> > time >> > to do some research there. The items included are fairly long but I >> will >> > email that list to anyone who is interested. >> > >> > Linda >> > >> > Linda >> > >> > >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.814 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2827 - Release Date: 04/22/10 >> 04:31:00 >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've not had the book open for a number of years and I've learned a few things in looking for a sample to post.  First of all, the Adair Family Archives (reference # HA12 and from A-E , i.e. HA12/A1) mostly concerns the estate in England.  HA12/F concerns the Irish estates and while there are still 40-50 pages of leases, it isn't quite the amt. I originally thought were there. Secondly, I probably gave the wrong impression when I mentioned a list.  If it were a list of index entries, we'd all be a whole lot happier.  Unfortunately, it's a listing of what's in these Archives.  (Irish entries marked in red) Suffolk Record Office, Lowestoft Branch   Adair Family Archives [HA12/A1/1 - HA12/A11/4] ADAIR FAMILY ARCHIVES The entire contents of this catalogue are shown below. Browse the hierarchical structure instead Reference HA12 Covering dates c1100-1951 Held by Suffolk Record Office, Lowestoft Branch Extent 61 Series Source of acquisition Additional Deposits Accession 4553 deposited 1978 Accession 6864 deposited 11 September 1984 Creators Adair family, baronets, of Flixton Hall; Tasburgh family of Flixton, Suffolk Related information Transferred to the Public Record Office in Northern Ireland Contents: HA12/A Family and Personal, Local and Official HA12/A1 Tasburgh Family HA12/A2 Adair Family: general HA12/A3 William Adair HA12/A4 Alexander Adair HA12/A5 Robert Shafto Adair HA12/A6 Sir Robert Alexander Shafto Adair HA12/A7 Shafto Adair HA12/A8 Sir Frederick Adair HA12/A9 Ecclesiastical Patronage HA12/A10 Schools HA12/A11 Persons not members of the Tasburgh or Adair families HA12/B Suffolk Estate: Evidences of Title HA12/B1 Miscellaneous collections (see note at beginning of this section) HA12/B2 Early deeds (see note at beginning of this section) HA12/B3 Family settlements and general evidences of title HA12/B4 Numbered bundles (see note at beginning of this section) HA12/B5 Other later title deeds. HA12/C Suffolk Estate: Manorial Administration HA12/C1 Feudal and honorial HA12/C2 Manor of Southelmham HA12/C3 Manor of Flixton (Priory) HA12/C4 Manor of Boyses in Flixton HA12/C5 Manors of Sancroft and Newhall in Flixton HA12/C6 Manor of Cratfield Roos HA12/C7 Manor of Creeting St. Olave HA12/C8 Manor of Depden HA12/C9 Manor of Naughton HA12/C10 Manor of Redlingfield HA12/C11 Miscellaneous manorial records HA12/D Suffolk Estate: Estate Management HA12/D1 General accounts and vouchers HA12/D2 Rent accounts and vouchers HA12/D3 Particulars and valuations of the estate HA12/D4 Maps and plans HA12/D5 Clerk of the Works' reports and relative papers HA12/D6 Correspondence and letter books HA12/D7 Lands Improvement Company HA12/D8 Tenancy agreements and relative papers HA12/D9 Farms in hand HA12/D10 Home Farm, with Cooper's, Abbey and Grange Farms: also Flixton Hall Farm HA12/D11 Southelmham Hall Farm and Roberson's Farm HA12/D12 St. Peter's or Freestone's Farm HA12/D13 Shadow Barn Farm (Ilketshall St. Margaret) HA12/D14 St. Andrew's Farm HA12/D15 Shotford Hall Farm (Mendham) HA12/D16 Hill or Harvey's Farm, Redlingfield HA12/D17 Dandy's Farm HA12/D18 Ixworth Farm HA12/D19 Unidentified Farms HA12/D20 Blacksmith HA12/D21 Coachman HA12/D22 Gamekeeper HA12/D23 Gardener HA12/D24 Woodman HA12/D25 Timber-yard HA12/D26 Brick-kiln, St. Cross HA12/D27 General and miscellaneous HA12/E Suffolk Estate: Legal Papers HA12/E1 Flixton Tithe cause HA12/E2 Other causes HA12/F Irish Estate HA12/F1 Evidences of title HA12/F2 Leases and relative documents HA12/F3 Rentals and accounts HA12/F4 Records arising from the management of the estate, including some records of a semi-official nature HA12/G Suffolk Estate (Additional) HA12/G1 Accounts and rentals HA12/G2 Reference and record books HA12/G3 Letter books HA12/G4 Maps and plans HA12/6864/1-21 Various Flixton Hall Estate records (additional) For those of you who find a listing of interest,  this index may be all you have access to.  When I did and I contacted the Suffolk Record Office, I was told I'd have to contact the Adair family attorney.  What I was asking for pertained to Adair family history and I was delighted to know there was one.  :D  Unfortunately, they couldn't or wouldn't give me the name of that person. In any case, the indexes themselves can give a great deal of information but it's a matter of looking at entry by entry. I'm so sorry if I gave the wrong impression. Linda

Ann, to anwer your question, places are given as well as names. TJ, not a problem. I've not had the book open for a number of years and I've learned a few things in looking for a sample to post. First of all, the Adair Family Archives (reference # HA12 and from A-E , i.e. HA12/A1) mostly concerns the estate in England. HA12/F concerns the Irish estates and while there are still 40-50 pages of leases, it isn't quite the amt. I originally thought were there. Secondly, I probably gave the wrong impression when I mentioned a list. If it were a list of index entries, we'd all be a whole lot happier. Unfortunately, it's a listing of what's in these Archives. (Irish entries marked in red) Suffolk Record Office, Lowestoft Branch   Adair Family Archives [HA12/A1/1 - HA12/A11/4] ADAIR FAMILY ARCHIVES The entire contents of this catalogue are shown below. Browse the hierarchical structure instead Reference HA12 Covering dates c1100-1951 Held by Suffolk Record Office, Lowestoft Branch Extent 61 Series Source of acquisition Additional Deposits Accession 4553 deposited 1978 Accession 6864 deposited 11 September 1984 Creators Adair family, baronets, of Flixton Hall; Tasburgh family of Flixton, Suffolk Related information Transferred to the Public Record Office in Northern Ireland Contents: HA12/A Family and Personal, Local and Official HA12/A1 Tasburgh Family HA12/A2 Adair Family: general HA12/A3 William Adair HA12/A4 Alexander Adair HA12/A5 Robert Shafto Adair HA12/A6 Sir Robert Alexander Shafto Adair HA12/A7 Shafto Adair HA12/A8 Sir Frederick Adair HA12/A9 Ecclesiastical Patronage HA12/A10 Schools HA12/A11 Persons not members of the Tasburgh or Adair families HA12/B Suffolk Estate: Evidences of Title HA12/B1 Miscellaneous collections (see note at beginning of this section) HA12/B2 Early deeds (see note at beginning of this section) HA12/B3 Family settlements and general evidences of title HA12/B4 Numbered bundles (see note at beginning of this section) HA12/B5 Other later title deeds. HA12/C Suffolk Estate: Manorial Administration HA12/C1 Feudal and honorial HA12/C2 Manor of Southelmham HA12/C3 Manor of Flixton (Priory) HA12/C4 Manor of Boyses in Flixton HA12/C5 Manors of Sancroft and Newhall in Flixton HA12/C6 Manor of Cratfield Roos HA12/C7 Manor of Creeting St. Olave HA12/C8 Manor of Depden HA12/C9 Manor of Naughton HA12/C10 Manor of Redlingfield HA12/C11 Miscellaneous manorial records HA12/D Suffolk Estate: Estate Management HA12/D1 General accounts and vouchers HA12/D2 Rent accounts and vouchers HA12/D3 Particulars and valuations of the estate HA12/D4 Maps and plans HA12/D5 Clerk of the Works' reports and relative papers HA12/D6 Correspondence and letter books HA12/D7 Lands Improvement Company HA12/D8 Tenancy agreements and relative papers HA12/D9 Farms in hand HA12/D10 Home Farm, with Cooper's, Abbey and Grange Farms: also Flixton Hall Farm HA12/D11 Southelmham Hall Farm and Roberson's Farm HA12/D12 St. Peter's or Freestone's Farm HA12/D13 Shadow Barn Farm (Ilketshall St. Margaret) HA12/D14 St. Andrew's Farm HA12/D15 Shotford Hall Farm (Mendham) HA12/D16 Hill or Harvey's Farm, Redlingfield HA12/D17 Dandy's Farm HA12/D18 Ixworth Farm HA12/D19 Unidentified Farms HA12/D20 Blacksmith HA12/D21 Coachman HA12/D22 Gamekeeper HA12/D23 Gardener HA12/D24 Woodman HA12/D25 Timber-yard HA12/D26 Brick-kiln, St. Cross HA12/D27 General and miscellaneous HA12/E Suffolk Estate: Legal Papers HA12/E1 Flixton Tithe cause HA12/E2 Other causes HA12/F Irish Estate HA12/F1 Evidences of title HA12/F2 Leases and relative documents HA12/F3 Rentals and accounts HA12/F4 Records arising from the management of the estate, including some records of a semi-official nature HA12/G Suffolk Estate (Additional) HA12/G1 Accounts and rentals HA12/G2 Reference and record books HA12/G3 Letter books HA12/G4 Maps and plans HA12/6864/1-21 Various Flixton Hall Estate records (additional) For those of you who find a listing of interest, this index may be all you have access to. When I did and I contacted the Suffolk Record Office, I was told I'd have to contact the Adair family attorney. What I was asking for pertained to Adair family history and I was delighted to know there was one. :D Unfortunately, they couldn't or wouldn't give me the name of that person. In any case, the indexes themselves can give a great deal of information but it's a matter of looking at entry by entry. I'm so sorry if I gave the wrong impression. Linda

One of the files at PRONI is the Adair family archives. Originals are held at the Suffolk Record Office, Lowestoft Branch in England. The indexes have been filmed by the LDS Library on FHL BRITISH Film 258761. I was so excited when I found the file, I closed my eyes and asked that the entire file be photocopied. :D $55 later and I took the file home. While the main focus of the files are the Adair family, quite a large section is devoted to rentals they had in the Ballymena area 1600 - 1700's. Listings in those indexes can include 3 generations of family. It takes mass time to go through these indexes because there is no order to the way they are listed but the payoff can be fantastic. Worth the time to do some research there. The items included are fairly long but I will email that list to anyone who is interested. Linda Linda

I would love to have the list. Thank you so much! I hope you don't mind that I forward your email to the Yahoo Mid-Antrim group as there are lots of Ballymena ancestors on the list. Linda On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:07 PM, [email protected] wrote: > One of the files at PRONI is the Adair family archives. Originals are > held at the Suffolk Record Office, Lowestoft Branch in England. The indexes > have been filmed by the LDS Library on FHL BRITISH Film > 258761. I was so excited when I found the file, I closed my eyes and > asked that the entire file be photocopied. :D $55 later and I took the file > home. > While the main focus of the files are the Adair family, quite a large > section is devoted to rentals they had in the Ballymena area 1600 - 1700's. > Listings in those indexes can include 3 generations of family. > It takes mass time to go through these indexes because there is no order to > the way they are listed but the payoff can be fantastic. Worth the time > to do some research there. The items included are fairly long but I will > email that list to anyone who is interested. > > Linda > > Linda > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The film is an index indicating names or an index indicating areas or what?   Anne   Anne Shier Klintworth Check out my genealogy blog at http://genealogygirl.wordpress.com/ ----- Original Message ---- > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Sent: Wed, April 21, 2010 3:07:49 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Adam Boyd- Ballymena or Ballymoney > > One of the files at PRONI is the Adair family archives.  Originals are > held at the Suffolk Record Office, Lowestoft Branch in England.  The > indexes have been filmed by the LDS Library on FHL BRITISH Film > 258761.  I was so excited when I found the file, I closed my eyes and > asked that the entire file be photocopied.  :D  $55 later and I > took the file home. While the main focus of the files are the Adair > family, quite a large section is devoted to rentals they had in the > Ballymena area 1600 - 1700's.  Listings in those indexes can include 3 > generations of family. It takes mass time to go through these indexes > because there is no order to the way they are listed but the payoff can be > fantastic.  Worth the time to do some research there.  The items > included are fairly long but I will email that list to anyone who is > interested. Linda Linda > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send > an email to > href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message

Hi I've just had a look on Ancestry to see if I could find my Hugh Heany coming from Northern Ireland to England around 1863/64 and I couldn't find anything my question is if someone is from Northern Ireland at that time are they considered an alien or a British Subject. Is that the reason perhaps I couldn't find him?? Kind regards Dianna

Hi Ireland up until 1922 was ruled by Britain so there is no records of movements between ireland and england. John ------Original Message------ From: dianna charles Sender: [email protected] To: [email protected] ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Heany family Emmigrating to England Sent: Apr 20, 2010 5:17 AM Hi I've just had a look on Ancestry to see if I could find my Hugh Heany coming from Northern Ireland to England around 1863/64 and I couldn't find anything my question is if someone is from Northern Ireland at that time are they considered an alien or a British Subject. Is that the reason perhaps I couldn't find him?? Kind regards Dianna ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

Hello Dianna. I will send you an A4 size townland map of Glenavy to your personal e mail. best regards robert www.ulsterancestry.com > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 16:35:25 +1000 > Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Map of Glenavy > > Hi > Could someone be able to tell me where I would find a detailed map of > Glenavy Co Antrim with the town of Aghadolgan on it please, I would like to > see where my Heaney family came from. Kind regards Dianna > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/197222280/direct/01/ Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? Tell us now

Hi Could someone be able to tell me where I would find a detailed map of Glenavy Co Antrim with the town of Aghadolgan on it please, I would like to see where my Heaney family came from. Kind regards Dianna

In response the Colin's request regarding a non-commercial B & B near Ballymoney where the folks have an interest in genealogy, I don't know of one. But I did just earlier this month go to that area to research my family the McCrubb's who lived in Loughile Parish in the Corkey and Ballyweny townlands. I stayed outside of Ballycastle in a B& B called Kenbane Farm. I absolutely loved it and the owner, Nan was originally from Ballymoney and her husband from Ballycastle. They do not have a particular interest in genealogy but were lovely people. Nan was very helpful and called the local studies librarian in Ballymena regarding a Ordinance Survey map so I could find the townland. When I got to the library, the librarian had the pages ready for me to look at and she copied them for me. I very highly recommend it and my husband and I thoroughly enjoyed our stay in County Antrim. Incredibly beautiful coastal area which I hope those going to the conference will leave a little time to explore. I scheduled this trip before I knew about the fall conference, but what a great opportunity and I urge anyone who is considering going to absolutely do it!!