There is also a copy accessible at http://www.archive.org/stream/scotchirish00boltrich#page/n3/mode/2up I believe the entire volume is there. John Polk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Wann" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 23:15 Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] David Boyd, Commissioner, Ballymoney, 1692 > Hello David > > You can read bits of this book on Google Books, but you might have done > this > already? > > http://www.google.com.au/search?q=Charles+BOLTON++Ulster&btnG=Search+Books&t > bs=bks%3A1&tbo=1 > > I hope this helps > Susan Wann > > > Subiaco is the Home of Wembley Ware > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd > Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2010 9:55 AM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] David Boyd, Commissioner, Ballymoney, 1692 > > Recently I came across this bit of information:- > > "Charles Knowes Bolton, in his Scotch Irish Pioneers in Ulster and > America, > lists in an appendix names and hometowns of various Ulstermen taken from > presbytery and synod records: > > David Boyd, Commissioner, Ballymoney, 1692." > > Does anyone have a copy of this book by Bolton, to see what sort of > "Commissioner" this David Boyd might have been in 1692. > > More importantly, does anyone have his family tree or are a descendant of > this David Boyd? > > It would also be interesting to know if he lived within Ballymoney, or > came > from one of the Townlands around Ballymoney where quite a number of Boyd > families lived. > > Thank you > > Mike Boyd > Historical Committee, HBS > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I'll give it a try, too. Dawn -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lea-Anne Davison Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 8:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] cause of death I am not sure if this is the right place to ask, if not can someone please point me in the right direction. I have the cause on death on a death certificate I am having trouble reading. I was wondering if someone could please have a look at it for me and maybe another pair of eyes may be able to interpret it for me. I can email the section if anyone is interested in having a look. Thanks Lea-Anne Aust ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi. I believe they were Presbyterian. Thanks Eddie On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 09:24 +1000, Mike Boyd wrote: > Eddie > Do you know what religion they were? That may reduce the locations? > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane, Aust. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "eddie" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 10:09 AM > Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Parker & Gibb > > > > Looking for information about Robert Parker born @1800 may have married > > Margaret Boyd in 1819 in Kells, Kildrum, Connor or Kirkinriola. > > Also David Gibb born 1813 Donegore married Susannah Wilson 1853. > > Susannah born 1807. David's father was James Gibb' > > Thanks > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Margaret, You've found them in 1841 census. I can't, so I presume a specific surname variant. It may take hours that I don't have to get that information. The next place I would look is 1851 and 1861. As either John or James looks to be your ancestor, you must know something of their fate. This is what I mean when I say you have to give us what you know. As a part time professional researcher, I get paid for looking. So I'm not going to look for data that you know. Peter

Hi Peter, Thank you for your input. As you pointed out I should check in certain places.  The truth is that I don't want to give too much information...... as I have given most of my information to certain individuals and have never heard from them again.  Apparently the two to whom I gave the information turned out to be relatives but just wanted the information for their records. I do have certificates of births, marriages and deaths. Unfortunately I don't have a certificate for marriage of Richard and Margaret.  I don't know if they married In Ireland or England. Who knows maybe they weren't married.  However on the birth certificates for their children it was written 'Margaret Fahy was formerly Margaret GORMAN'. In fact I wasn't aware that I was of Irish decent 'til I started to research.  BIG SURPRISE! Peter, I appreciate your trying to help and thank you for taking the time to write. Regards, Peace and BLessings.  Margaret NJ USA   --- On Fri, 6/11/10, Peter Booth <[email protected]> wrote: From: Peter Booth <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] FAHY-FOY- etc. GORMAN. To: [email protected]   Margaret,     Peter in Sydney ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Patricia, Thank you for the information on Richard FEY. I'm not sure what it means year of registration........ In the 1851 census St.Helens - the sons of Richard, James and John are shown.  They were with another family [know nothing of that family] unfortunately there was no information on the sons other than their ages. Have found the sons since then but nothing on Richard. However many thanks for you taking the time to trace my ancestor. If I can help you in some way just ask. Regards, peace & blessings.   Margaret NJ USA --- On Fri, 6/11/10, Patricia Moosman <[email protected]> wrote: From: Patricia Moosman <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] FAHY-FOY- etc. GORMAN. Hi Margaret Found these 2 on ancestry.com I don't subscribe at the moment So cannot get any further into them Hope it is of some help Patricia New Zealand Richard Fe__Y Year of Registration: 1850 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Liverpool (1837-1934) County: Lancashire Name: Richard Fey Year of Registration: 1848 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Shoreditch County: London, Middlesex Richard FEY[?] b.c. 1816 Ireland married Margaret GORMAN b.c. 1811. They are registered in the 1841 census in St.Helens, Lancashire, England with their two sons James b 1837 and John b 1839 in St.Helens. Margaret died in 1847 [St.Helens] have no information on the death of Richard.     ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Eddie Do you know what religion they were? That may reduce the locations? Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. ----- Original Message ----- From: "eddie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 10:09 AM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Parker & Gibb > Looking for information about Robert Parker born @1800 may have married > Margaret Boyd in 1819 in Kells, Kildrum, Connor or Kirkinriola. > Also David Gibb born 1813 Donegore married Susannah Wilson 1853. > Susannah born 1807. David's father was James Gibb' > Thanks > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Looking for information regarding Robert Parker born @ 1800, maybe married Margaret Boyd in 1819 in Kells, kildrum, Connor or Kirkinriola. Also looking for David Gibb born 1813 Donegore married Susannah Wilson 1853. David's father was James Gibb. Thanks

Hi Eddie What sort of information are you looking for? Have you got the exact dates of the marriages? To find the Birth information and the first marriage you would need to search Church Records as Civil Registration did not start until 1864 or 1845 for Non Catholic Marriages. Check out my website if you need any Church Records checked at the Public Records Office in Belfast. http://www.eastantrimancestry.com John -------------------------------------------------- From: "eddie" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 8:35 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Parker/Gibb > Looking for information regarding Robert Parker born @ 1800, maybe > married Margaret Boyd in 1819 in Kells, kildrum, Connor or > Kirkinriola. > > Also looking for David Gibb born 1813 Donegore married Susannah > Wilson > 1853. David's father was James Gibb. > Thanks > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Looking for information about Robert Parker born @1800 may have married Margaret Boyd in 1819 in Kells, Kildrum, Connor or Kirkinriola. Also David Gibb born 1813 Donegore married Susannah Wilson 1853. Susannah born 1807. David's father was James Gibb' Thanks

Thanks Peter, I've looked at these sites before and found a little information. Unfortunately the immigration records show very little information. Regards Leigh

Leigh, I know. But sometimes immigration record have little clues like ages, townland, if parents deceased etc. Try each of these:- http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/ http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#r=5;p=allCollections http://fsbeta.familysearch.org/s/collection/list With the first site, IFHF it's best to register. For the other two, look under Ireland. There are various databases to search, depending on timeframe. Peter

Hello Peter, I actually was asking for information about the families in Antrim not Australia. Alexander and Margaret emigrated to Victoria and settled in south west Victoria at Warrnambool. Regards Leigh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Booth" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Gault Ahoghill and Swan (Swann) Carmagrim > Leigh, > > Have you looked at immigration papers? > > You don't say which state of Australia and whether Assisted or > Unassisted. > > Over the last 12 months, NSW State Archives has progressively released > digitised images of the papers that support the indexes for Assisted > Immigrants. It also looks like Family Search has got on board as they seem > to have transcriptions of the same data on their pilot site. > > It's changing all the time as more data goes online. So always good to > check back regularly. > > I'd be looking if relatives came with them or who sponsored them. It's > also useful to check witnesses on early baptisms of children. > > Peter in Sydney > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Leigh, Have you looked at immigration papers? You don't say which state of Australia and whether Assisted or Unassisted. Over the last 12 months, NSW State Archives has progressively released digitised images of the papers that support the indexes for Assisted Immigrants. It also looks like Family Search has got on board as they seem to have transcriptions of the same data on their pilot site. It's changing all the time as more data goes online. So always good to check back regularly. I'd be looking if relatives came with them or who sponsored them. It's also useful to check witnesses on early baptisms of children. Peter in Sydney

Good Morning, My 2xgreat grandmother was Margaret GAULT born c1829-31, the daughter of Matthew GAULT and Margaret MILLER(MILLAR?) of Ahoghill. I believe that Margaret probably had two brothers - James and possibly Matthew. James married Ellen MCCAUGHEY in 1847 at Ahoghill. Margaret married Alexander SWAN(N), son of John SWAN(N) of Carmagrim at Portglenone in 1849 and when their son Matthew was a year old emigrated to Australia in 1856. If anyone has information about the GAULTS or SWAN(N)S I would love to hear from them. Leigh Carrum, Victoria, Australia

Hey Cherrie Just a note to let you know that while searching for my Hutton ancestors in Ahoghill Parish, Co Antrim, we came across a connection to a present day Tully family. We found that in the 1800s, the name Tully was also spelled as Tally, especially in the Catholic records. At the same time, the surname Hutton was also spelled as Hatton. Just a note to let you keep your options open. Rick Hutton ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -------Original Message------- From: Cherrie Cameron Date: 6/12/2010 6:58:33 PM To: Antrim Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Eliza TULLY I am searching information for Eliza TULLY and her family. Eliza was born probably in Belfast between 1816-1821, had a least one sister Sarah, and perhaps brothers. Various reports as to names of parents, John TULLY and Annie MCGREGOR, or Annie CARR. Eliza and Sarah were convicted and sentenced to transportation to NSW for 7 years, both arriving on the Pyramus2, in 1836. I have a copy of the prisoner index record for Sarah, but have not been able to find a similar index for Eliza. I do have the ship's list and voyage records for the Pyramus2. The benefit of having the index is that it identifies where the prisoner was convicted/goaled. For example, Sarah's record states she was convicted on 6 January 1836 and goaled at Kilmainham Goal 18 may 1836. Any suggestions where I could obtain information concerning Eliza's conviction(s) - there is some probability she had more than one. Does anyone know what newspapers were published in Belfast in 1836, and if so, were they likely to report on the trials of such offences. Another descendant of Eliza's has reputedly found records to indicate that Eliza was christened at St Ann's church, Shankill, Belfast. I am hopeful to receive a copy of that information. In the meantime, where would I look for marriage, birth, baptism records for the family? I am planning a visit to Belfast, and other places in Ireland in September and am anxious to have as much information as possible to follow through. Many thanks in advance for all help offered Regards Cherrie from oz ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2932 - Release Date: 06/11/10 11:35:00

Cherie, Have you tried the Irish Transportation database http://www.nationalarchives.ie/topics/transportation/search01.html For Irish BDM data you might also try http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start http://fsbeta.familysearch.org/s/collection/list http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/ Peter in Sydney

For early records of birth marriage or deaths you will need to look at the church records. Civil registration did not start until 1864 or 1845 for non Catholic marriages. Copes of church records are held at PRONI but unfortunately when you come to belfast in september PRONI will be closed for 9 months as it relocates to the titanic quarter in belfast. Have a look at their website for more information. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: Cherrie Cameron <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:57:45 To: Antrim<[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Eliza TULLY I am searching information for Eliza TULLY and her family. Eliza was born probably in Belfast between 1816-1821, had a least one sister, Sarah, and perhaps brothers.  Various reports as to names of parents, John TULLY and Annie MCGREGOR, or Annie CARR. Eliza and Sarah were convicted and sentenced to transportation to NSW for 7 years, both arriving on the Pyramus2, in 1836. I have a copy of the prisoner index record for Sarah, but have not been able to find a similar index for Eliza.  I do have the ship's list and voyage records for the Pyramus2. The benefit of having the index is that it identifies where the prisoner was convicted/goaled. for example, Sarah's record states she was convicted on 6 January 1836 and  goaled at Kilmainham Goal 18 may 1836. Any suggestions where I could obtain information concerning Eliza's conviction(s) - there is some probability she had more than one. Does anyone know what newspapers were published in Belfast in 1836, and if so, were they likely to report on the trials of such offences. Another descendant of Eliza's has reputedly found records to indicate that Eliza was christened at St Ann's church, Shankill, Belfast.  I am hopeful to receive a copy of that information.  In the meantime, where would I look for marriage, birth, baptism records for the family? i am planning a visit to Belfast, and other places in Ireland in September and am anxious to have as much information as possible to follow through. Many thanks in advance for all help offered regards Cherrie from oz ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am searching information for Eliza TULLY and her family. Eliza was born probably in Belfast between 1816-1821, had a least one sister, Sarah, and perhaps brothers.  Various reports as to names of parents, John TULLY and Annie MCGREGOR, or Annie CARR. Eliza and Sarah were convicted and sentenced to transportation to NSW for 7 years, both arriving on the Pyramus2, in 1836. I have a copy of the prisoner index record for Sarah, but have not been able to find a similar index for Eliza.  I do have the ship's list and voyage records for the Pyramus2. The benefit of having the index is that it identifies where the prisoner was convicted/goaled. for example, Sarah's record states she was convicted on 6 January 1836 and  goaled at Kilmainham Goal 18 may 1836. Any suggestions where I could obtain information concerning Eliza's conviction(s) - there is some probability she had more than one. Does anyone know what newspapers were published in Belfast in 1836, and if so, were they likely to report on the trials of such offences. Another descendant of Eliza's has reputedly found records to indicate that Eliza was christened at St Ann's church, Shankill, Belfast.  I am hopeful to receive a copy of that information.  In the meantime, where would I look for marriage, birth, baptism records for the family? i am planning a visit to Belfast, and other places in Ireland in September and am anxious to have as much information as possible to follow through. Many thanks in advance for all help offered regards Cherrie from oz

Margaret, Quite often words like "identify with this family" limit your chances of success to only relatives. But if you ask can people "help with this family", everybody is eligible. However, to be able to help, you need to tell us what you already know, so that we don't have to do that research. Have you found their marriage? What evidence do you have that they are from Antrim? What happened to Richard? Have you found him in later census years? The main thing is to know where they married. It's no good looking in Antrim if they married after reaching England. It's a waste of time looking in IFHF if we should be looking in FreeBMD or even Lancashire OLPC. Even with St Helens, there are four or five different churches. Try looking for Richard and his sons in 1851 and 1861 census, then post another message. If all else fails, I'd try for a birth certificate of either James or John. It may have clues to an exact location in Ireland for origins of parents. Peter in Sydney