Desley Do you have his date of death and his death certificate? Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Desley Garrahy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 3:07 PM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] records > Thank you to Peter and Lyn for replying. I should have made myself > clearer. We will be visiting Ireland in late July and was looking for > mainly BDM's in Co Down and where these records are kept. I am > searching for details of my great-grandfather, James Porter who was born > at Dromore, Co Down about 1849. He is our brick wall. > > Desley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you to Peter and Lyn for replying. I should have made myself clearer. We will be visiting Ireland in late July and was looking for mainly BDM's in Co Down and where these records are kept. I am searching for details of my great-grandfather, James Porter who was born at Dromore, Co Down about 1849. He is our brick wall. Desley

Desley You could try PRONI http://www.proni.gov.uk/ And the IGP http://www.igp-web.com/down/index.htm http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ It really does depend on when and what you are looking for. Regards Lyn In Oz. > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Desley Garrahy > Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 6:42 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] records > > Would someone please be able to tell me where I can access > records for County Down - church records and government records. > > Desley Garrahy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Desley, It depends on the timeframe you are looking for and also which church they belonged to. There is no single complete list. First try the free options using www.familysearch.org or their pilot site at the same address, or their new site http://fsbeta.familysearch.org/s/collection/list The new site tends to be mainly civil records from 1864. I'd also recommend checking Genuki for various other resources in Down. Then I'd try the Irish Family History Foundation IFHF http://www.irish-roots.ie/ Click on the map and you'll see that they have data for Down. It's best to register for better searching. Also check the sources tab at the top of the Down screen to see parishes and timeframes covered by the data. Peter in Sydney

Thank you everyone for your offers of help. Dawn and Brian have helped me solve the handwriting. It was a handwriting transcription and not a medical mystery. I will keep the offers for medical transcriptions in mind as I do have a couple that are hard to read in that area. Regards, Lea-Anne On 23 June 2010 13:22, Al Valentine <[email protected]> wrote: > I will have a go as I have an extensive medical dictionary. > Al > > On 21/06/2010 11:53 PM, Dawn Carlile wrote: > > I'll give it a try, too. > > Dawn > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lea-Anne Davison > > Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 8:47 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] cause of death > > > > I am not sure if this is the right place to ask, if not can someone > please > > point me in the right direction. > > I have the cause on death on a death certificate I am having trouble > > reading. I was wondering if someone could please have a look at it for > me > > and maybe another pair of eyes may be able to interpret it for me. > > > > I can email the section if anyone is interested in having a look. > > > > Thanks > > Lea-Anne > > Aust > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Would someone please be able to tell me where I can access records for County Down - church records and government records. Desley Garrahy

Cherrie You may find that after Kilmainham Goal county Dublin, she was transferrred to a old ship in Cork Harbour. This would be more sheltered than the open harbour at Dublin. So Cork Harbour may have been the point where people who were convicted to transpotation to New South Wales while they waited for shipping. There was a Goal in Carrickfergus in the 1600's but I am not sure if it was still in use in the 1800's. The Newspaper Library in Belfast, may have their name listed or they could refer your to a Library in Dublin. Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cherrie Cameron" <[email protected]> To: "Antrim" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 11:19 AM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] TULLY Eliza and Sarah Eliza Tully and her sister, Sarah, were reputedly born in Belfast between 1816 and 1821. Both were transported to NSW on the Pyramus 2 in 1836. Sarah's records reveal that she was tried in county Antrim on 6 January 1836, and was jailed in Kilmainham Goal county Dublin. The Pyramus sailed from Cork on 20 August 1836. I have not been able to find Eliza's conviction records. Is there any subscriber to this list who has knowledge of the judicial system of the 1830's in Ireland? Why would Sarah be held in Dublin when she was convicted in county Antrim? What other jails were in Belfast during this period, and where are the records? Why would the sisters be on a ship leaving from Cork when to all appearances they were on the other sides of the island? whilst it may be beyond the purview of this list, does anyone know of newspapers published in Cork in 1836? Would there be a likelihood that the sailing of the pyramus would be reported in the local newspaper? I'd also welcome any relevant reference books. Many thanks for your help. Cherrie from Oz. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Eliza Tully and her sister, Sarah, were reputedly born in Belfast between 1816 and 1821. Both were transported to NSW on the Pyramus 2 in 1836. Sarah's records reveal that she was tried in county Antrim on 6 January 1836, and was jailed in Kilmainham Goal county Dublin. The Pyramus sailed from Cork on 20 August 1836. I have not been able to find Eliza's conviction records. Is there any subscriber to this list who has knowledge of the judicial system of the 1830's in Ireland?  Why would Sarah be held in Dublin when she was convicted in county Antrim?  What other jails were in Belfast during this period, and where are the records?  Why would the sisters be on a ship leaving from Cork when to all appearances they were on the other sides of the island? whilst it may be beyond the purview of this list, does anyone know of newspapers published in Cork in 1836? Would there be a likelihood that the sailing of the pyramus would be reported in the local newspaper? I'd also welcome any relevant reference books. Many thanks for your help. Cherrie from Oz.

I will be happy to have a look at it as well.  I have been a medical transcriptionist for most of my adult life.   Donna Jean Glasgow -- [email protected] > Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] cause of death > > I am not sure if this is the right place to ask, if not can someone please > point me in the right direction. > I have the cause on death on a death certificate I am having trouble > reading.  I was wondering if someone could please have a look at it for me > and maybe another pair of eyes may be able to interpret it for me. > > I can email the section if anyone is interested in having a look. > > Thanks > Lea-Anne > Aust

Mavis Limnaharry is about 2 to 3 kms west of Ahoghill. You may need to look for the history of Ahoghill rather than Limnaharry, to see what short of farming was taken place in the early 1800's. It is 386 acres in size, but you may need to look at a Griffith Valuation record. But that will be for the 1860's which will give you a break up of sub-titles within. They could be Flax, grains, potatoes and other food crops plus some livestock like a milking cow, pigs, etc. It is just north of the A42 Raod if you have a good motoring map. Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mavis Barrett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 12:39 PM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Limnaharry - Ahoghill > My gt gt grandfather (Robert Craig) was down as a farmer of Limnaharry in > the 1800's, 1825 - 1887. What sort of farmer would he be, crops or dairy? > What sort of crops? Agricultural or flax? > > Trying to find some back ground information on Robert & family. > > Have searched the web for information on Limnaharry, nothing, has it now > been swallowed up by another village. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Mavis, New Zealand > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My gt gt grandfather (Robert Craig) was down as a farmer of Limnaharry in the 1800's, 1825 - 1887. What sort of farmer would he be, crops or dairy? What sort of crops? Agricultural or flax? Trying to find some back ground information on Robert & family. Have searched the web for information on Limnaharry, nothing, has it now been swallowed up by another village. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Mavis, New Zealand

Try this link: http://www.seanruad.com/ Just put in Co. Antrim and all townland names will come up. The townland you are looking for is listed. Mary Elizabeth --- On Wed, 6/23/10, Mavis Barrett <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Mavis Barrett <[email protected]> > Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Limnaharry - Ahoghill > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 10:39 PM > My gt gt grandfather (Robert Craig) > was down as a farmer of Limnaharry in > the 1800's, 1825 - 1887.  What sort of farmer would he > be, crops or dairy? > What sort of crops? Agricultural or flax? > > Trying to find some back ground information on Robert & > family. > > Have searched the web for information on Limnaharry, > nothing, has it now > been swallowed up by another village. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Mavis, New Zealand > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

I will have a go as I have an extensive medical dictionary. Al On 21/06/2010 11:53 PM, Dawn Carlile wrote: > I'll give it a try, too. > Dawn > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lea-Anne Davison > Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 8:47 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] cause of death > > I am not sure if this is the right place to ask, if not can someone please > point me in the right direction. > I have the cause on death on a death certificate I am having trouble > reading. I was wondering if someone could please have a look at it for me > and maybe another pair of eyes may be able to interpret it for me. > > I can email the section if anyone is interested in having a look. > > Thanks > Lea-Anne > Aust > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

In the family tree that James Curran sent me in 1995, he had this structure for Captain Adam Boyd's family:- O1 Adam Boyd (I) - captain in the army sent by Charles I (reign 1625-1649) to Ireland. P1 Rev. Adam Boyd (II) Q1 Rev Adam Boyd (III) - b. 1666, Presby. clergyman, married Mary Norton, dau of Mr Norton, b 16xx, d 17xx, and had issue:- Children: R1 John Boyd R2 Rev. Adam Boyd (IV) Then some years ago, I was sent another tree which gave a second son for Captain Adam Boyd of a John Boyd, born in 1656 at some unknown location. P1 Capt Adam Boyd, bc 1616-1636 ( ), d / /16xx ( ), bu , m / /16xx, before 1656, (church, place), wife not given, dau of and (nee ) ???, b 16xx ( ), d / /16xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- [Lived: likely Ireland ] Q1 John Boyd, b / /1656 ( , Ireland), d / /17xx ( ), bu , m / /1686 (church, place), Miss Moore, dau of James Moore, Sr., of Ireland, b 16xx ( ), d / /17xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- [Lived: , Ireland? ] - As their son Samuel's [R1] eldest daughter is called Mary, it is possible that Miss Moore's first name might have been Mary. >From the 1994 IGI for the UK:- John BOYD (M)............ S: Abt 1660 B: 19 Sep 1989 ARIZO Ba: F511230 39 @^- Spouse: Miss MOORE Of,, Antrim, Ireland E: 26 Sep 1989 ARIZO So: 1553467 R1 Samuel Boyd, b / /1689 ( ), d / /1770 ( ), bu , m / /1720 (church, place), Margaret Campbell, dau of and (nee ) Campbell, b / /1695 ( ), d / /17xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- - He came with John (S5) - what other children - to America in 1736. S1 Mary Elizabeth Boyd, b / /1721 ( ), d / /17xx ( ), bu , m / /173x (church, place), William Moore, Sr., son of Andrew and Margaret (nee Wilson) Moore, b / /1710 ( ), d / /1798 ( ), bu , and had issue:- S2 Samuel Boyd, b / /1721 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m ? [Lived: ] - Was he a twin to Mary [S1] ? S3 Margaret Boyd, b / /1727 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m ? [Lived: ] - From the 1994 IGI of for the UK Margaret BOYD (F)............ B: Abt 1727 B: 25 Oct 1952 SLAKE F#: 445851 @ Father: Samuel BOYD of Calead, Antrim, Ireland E: 25 Sep 1953 SLAKE Mother: Margaret CAMPBELL SP: Pre-1970 S4 William Boyd, b / /1729 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m ? [Lived: ] S5 John Boyd, b / /1731 ( , Co. Antrim Ireland), d / /1799 ( , Lancaster Co., PA), bu , m /4/1752 ( church, place), Agnes Cooper, dau of John and Alice (nee Gill) Cooper of Baltimore, MD., b 22/10/1736 ( , MD?), d 8/11/1805 ( ), bu , and had issue:- [Lived: ] - This would appear to be the same John Boyd and Agnes Cooper who are the founders of the family outlined in Ch 4/248. While the list of their children would appear similar their are some additions and deletions from both lists. Susan Gillim in her GIF file has 2 marriage dates for this couple. The first for April 1752 and the second for 11 February 1775. It would appear from the birth of the children that the former would be correct. I am therefore uncertain what the second date is in reference to. In an E-mail from Gillim, Susan <[email protected]> on 30 July 2002 from the attached GIF FILE Susan has he came with his father to America in 1736. As he is said to have died in Lancaster Co., PA This John would appear to be the same person who appears in the DAR Patriot Index of 1990 "John: b 1730 IR d p 1-4-1799 PA m Agnes Cooper Pvt PA" [from DAR file] While Mariann has provided this tree:- John BOYD (M)................. B: 1731 B: 25 Oct 1952 F#: 453767 @ Father: Samuel BOYD of Calead, Antrim, Ireland E: 16 Nov 1953 MANTI Mother: Margaret CAMPBELL SP: Pre-1970 O#: 92559 Mariann Generation One 1. Adam Boyd, b. bef 1630 in Scotland, buried Jun-6-1649 in Capt, Scottish Div, Charles I to Ireland. Children: 2. i. Adam Boyd b. bef 1650. Generation Two 2. Adam Boyd, b. bef 1650 in Scotland. He married Agnes Forsythe, married Jan 13, 1679 in Aberdeenshire, Scotland, b. abt. 1655. Children: 3. i. Adam Boyd b. 1666. Generation Three 3. Adam Boyd, b. 1666 in Ballymoney, Ireland. He married Mary Norton, married 1692 in Antrim, Ulster, Ireland, b. bef 1675. Children: 4. i. John Thomas Boyd b. 1690 - 1699. Generation Four 4. John Thomas Boyd, b. 1690 - 1699 in Near Edinburg or Edinburgh, Edinburghshire, Scotland,, d. abt 1750 in Northampton Co., Pennsylvania., He married Jane Craig, married 1715 in Philadelphia, Philadelphia Co., Pennsylvania, b. 1695 in Scotland. Children: 5. i. John Boyd b. abt 1716. ii. Mary Boyd. iii. Jane Boyd. You will notice that it provides an wife for the second Adam Boyd and they were married in Aberdeenshire. The first time any Scottish location has been given for this family. With their son Adam Boyd III, being born in Ballymoney, County Antrim. >From the IGI, it shows that two separate Boyd families were in Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire from the late 1500's, so it is quite possible that Captain Adam Boyd might have come from this area of Scotland. However, when I was checking on the marriages of the Second and Third Adam Boyd, I noticed that the marriage dates were after the birth of their children. So Mike Boyd would question these dates or linkage to their children. Do any members of this list have any other data on 2nd Adam Boyd and his state wife Agnes Forsythe and any other children? Similarly for the third Adam Boyd and his stated wife Mary Norton and any other children of this family. Thank you Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS

I am not sure if this is the right place to ask, if not can someone please point me in the right direction. I have the cause on death on a death certificate I am having trouble reading. I was wondering if someone could please have a look at it for me and maybe another pair of eyes may be able to interpret it for me. I can email the section if anyone is interested in having a look. Thanks Lea-Anne Aust

Recently I came across this bit of information:- "Charles Knowes Bolton, in his Scotch Irish Pioneers in Ulster and America, lists in an appendix names and hometowns of various Ulstermen taken from presbytery and synod records: David Boyd, Commissioner, Ballymoney, 1692." Does anyone have a copy of this book by Bolton, to see what sort of "Commissioner" this David Boyd might have been in 1692. More importantly, does anyone have his family tree or are a descendant of this David Boyd? It would also be interesting to know if he lived within Ballymoney, or came from one of the Townlands around Ballymoney where quite a number of Boyd families lived. Thank you Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS

David, There is a copy for sale here http://www.booktopia.com.au/search.ep?isbn=0548106851 Regards Susan Subiaco is the Home of Wembley Ware -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Susan Wann Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2010 11:16 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] David Boyd, Commissioner, Ballymoney, 1692 Hello David You can read bits of this book on Google Books, but you might have done this already? http://www.google.com.au/search?q=Charles+BOLTON++Ulster&btnG=Search+Books&t bs=bks%3A1&tbo=1 I hope this helps Susan Wann Subiaco is the Home of Wembley Ware -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2010 9:55 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] David Boyd, Commissioner, Ballymoney, 1692 Recently I came across this bit of information:- "Charles Knowes Bolton, in his Scotch Irish Pioneers in Ulster and America, lists in an appendix names and hometowns of various Ulstermen taken from presbytery and synod records: David Boyd, Commissioner, Ballymoney, 1692." Does anyone have a copy of this book by Bolton, to see what sort of "Commissioner" this David Boyd might have been in 1692. More importantly, does anyone have his family tree or are a descendant of this David Boyd? It would also be interesting to know if he lived within Ballymoney, or came from one of the Townlands around Ballymoney where quite a number of Boyd families lived. Thank you Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello David You can read bits of this book on Google Books, but you might have done this already? http://www.google.com.au/search?q=Charles+BOLTON++Ulster&btnG=Search+Books&t bs=bks%3A1&tbo=1 I hope this helps Susan Wann Subiaco is the Home of Wembley Ware -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2010 9:55 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] David Boyd, Commissioner, Ballymoney, 1692 Recently I came across this bit of information:- "Charles Knowes Bolton, in his Scotch Irish Pioneers in Ulster and America, lists in an appendix names and hometowns of various Ulstermen taken from presbytery and synod records: David Boyd, Commissioner, Ballymoney, 1692." Does anyone have a copy of this book by Bolton, to see what sort of "Commissioner" this David Boyd might have been in 1692. More importantly, does anyone have his family tree or are a descendant of this David Boyd? It would also be interesting to know if he lived within Ballymoney, or came from one of the Townlands around Ballymoney where quite a number of Boyd families lived. Thank you Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 6/21/10 8:47:59 PM, [email protected] writes: > Lea-Anne > One of the things I've done in the past is scan the cause of death, then open it in a photo program and change it to a negative. That will reverse the color/black & white and makes it a whole lot easier to read. Linda

Hello Lea-Anne please email me a copy and I will have a go at it for you ... [email protected] Cheers! J. Brian Gilchrist ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lea-Anne Davison" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:47 PM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] cause of death >I am not sure if this is the right place to ask, if not can someone please > point me in the right direction. > I have the cause on death on a death certificate I am having trouble > reading. I was wondering if someone could please have a look at it for me > and maybe another pair of eyes may be able to interpret it for me. > > I can email the section if anyone is interested in having a look. > > Thanks > Lea-Anne > Aust > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2954 - Release Date: 06/21/10 18:36:00