Just curious how you are accessing old papers and which ones. My family was in Ballymena at the time. Deborah in Florida On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Sharon Jameson <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi listers > > I have just been sitting going through old newspapers trying to piece > together the family of JANET WALKER born 1824 in Glasgow. Her parents were > ROBERT WALKER and AGNES AITKEN. > > JANET married JOHN RAPHAEL ESQ in Glasgow in 1848 and it would appear from > newspaper clippings that they spent their time in Ballmena. JOHN died Oct > 1877 and is buried in the family burying ground at Kirkinroila. > > Just wondering if anyone on the list has any connection with this family. > > Sharon (in Oz) > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Seeking further information on this couple: John Allison married Jane Watters in 1878 in County Antrim. It was a church record but I do not know what church it was. John Allison's father was listed as James Allison Jane Watters' father was listed as Thomas Watters. My limited research has found these items but I do not know if they connect to the above named persons: John Allison was baptized at a church in 1853 in County Antrim. Jane Watters was baptized at a church in 1855 in County Antrim Thomas Watters was married in a church in 1851 in County Antrim. I will truly appreciate any info on that will help me further this research. Regards, Bettye

Hello I have been reading with interest the line on White. I too, am having a problem with White and wonder if anyone has anything that might relate to my line. What I know is that my grandmother was Anne Mary White (from my dad and his siblings). On her notice of marriage and subsequent marriage to my grandad and on birth registration of her children, ww1 widow pension records, she is shown as Minnie McBlain nee White. >From conversation with her when I was a child, I remember her mther as Mary and a brother called Willie. >From the 1901 census, she is shown with her Mother Mary and Brother William J White as living in Church Terrace Newtownards. She was aged 20yrs and her brother 14. Mary was shown as a widow aged 54. I obtained a birth cert for William and the father is not shown. The census shows on ancestry.com as Anna W but the record is actually Anna M. White. I have been unable to find a birth entry for Anne/Anna. Her notice of marriage states that her father was David and he was deceased (1902). I am stuck and would be very grateful if anyone could help. Kind regards Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Schaalje" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:22 PM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] JAMES WHITE, BALLINDERRY, ANTRIM >I am hoping one of your subscribers may be able to help me. > > I am searching for information on James White and his wife, Ann Jane > _______ (perhaps Dane?) > > I have found the couple on the fragments of the 1851 Census (lucky!) in > Aghadavy townland, Ballinderry, Antrim with the following information: > > Ann Jane White head age 39 (born abt 1812) Co Down > > Eliza White, dau, age 16 (born abt 1835, actually 1833) Co Antrim > > Mercy White, dau, age 14 (born abt 1837) Co Antrim > > James White, son, age 11 (born abt 1840) Co Antrim > > Ann Jane White, dau, age 7 (born about 1844) Co Antrim > > Deaths since 1841 - James White, Winter 1844, blacksmith, age 34 (born > abt 1810) > > I am aware of one other son, William White who was born about 1831, and > was not at home at the time of the census as he was apprenticing as a > blacksmith in Belfast. > > I have since found Eliza White in Ulster Historical foundation records, > baptised in Ballinderry Church of Ireland but none of the other children > were recorded there. > > The family moved to Belfast some time after 1851 and 2 of the 3 daughters > were married in the Presbyterian Church. So I am wondering if the rest of > the children will be found in the Presbyterian Church in Ballinderry. > > My greatest desire is to find the marriage record of James White and Ann > Jane, probably about 1830 > > Any help or advice would be appreciated. Thank you. > > Nancy > Alberta, Canada > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I just wanted to say thank you to all who replied about my HIGNEY family! The replies are most appreciated. My grandfather, James HIGNEY, was finally located in the 1901 census! Thank you all so much! Mike

Thank you so much for your reply, Peter! Mike > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:28:44 +1000 > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] HIGNEY family in Belfast > > Mike, > > Here they are in 1911 > http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Shankill/Finley_Street/171898/ > > And here they are in 1901 > http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Camus/Drumhaboy/1753432/ > > Not too hard, really. > > Peter in Sydney > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mike, Here they are in 1911 http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Shankill/Finley_Street/171898/ And here they are in 1901 http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Camus/Drumhaboy/1753432/ Not too hard, really. Peter in Sydney

Mike Why not look up any Higney family members in Donegal in 1901 and 1911 census. There are very few of them and you will get an indication where your William came from. Also look for other Higney families in Tyrone. It is a somewhat unusual name and I suspect it may be Heagney at times. I looked up 1901 & 1911 census for both names and found both Higney and Heagney in the same townland in Tyrone. Maybe its the same family Also you should post your message on the Tyrone and Donegal message boards Pauline www.irishhomesteads.com On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 3:19 AM, Mike <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello List Members: > > My name is Mike Higney. I am trying to locate my HIGNEY family in Belfast. > > I believe that they were living in Belfast as of 1904 on 6 Finlay Street > but am unsure of their whereabouts > > in 1901 for the census. My great-grandparents were William HIGNEY and Mary > Ann(CALLAGHAN)HIGNEY. > > > > Would be most happy to locate them in the 1901 census or other directories > etc. > > Thank you for any help in this HIGNEY family search! > > Sincerely, > > Mike Higney > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello List Members: My name is Mike Higney. I am trying to locate my HIGNEY family in Belfast. I believe that they were living in Belfast as of 1904 on 6 Finlay Street but am unsure of their whereabouts in 1901 for the census. My great-grandparents were William HIGNEY and Mary Ann(CALLAGHAN)HIGNEY. Would be most happy to locate them in the 1901 census or other directories etc. Thank you for any help in this HIGNEY family search! Sincerely, Mike Higney

Mike, Just checked the 1901 Census online. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?census_year=1901&surname=Higney&firstname=&county=Antrim&townland=&ded=&age=&sex=&search=Search&relationToHead=&religion=&education=&occupation=&marriageStatus=&birthplace=&language=&deafdumb=&marriageYears=&childrenBorn=&childrenLiving= This is only thing I could find for you. It appears this child was living with a family named Finlay. I also checked http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/surname/index.cfm?fuseaction=Go.&UserID= for alternative spellings of the Higney name. Maybe someone else will have a better answer for you. Good luck. Mary Elizabeth RESEARCHING: McKIERNAN/McKERNAN in Co. Antrim and Co. Leitrim; McALLISTER in Co. Antrim; MULDOWNEY in Co. Kilkenny; KEARNEY in Co. Louth

Chris Thanks for your reply. I read your information carefully but alas, can find no link to my White line. I do have the marriage information for all of the children and none of your names match up. William White born about 1831 married (1) Eliza Cole and (2) Ann Jane Cunningham Eliza White born 1833 married Robert McCormack Mercy White born abt 1837 married David Bashford James White born abt 1840 married Eliza Ann Smyth Ann Jane White born abt 1844 married Thomas Lenaghan All the marriages took place in Belfast. I am hoping some of this will ring a bell with someone in the group. Thanks Nancy Message: 3 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:37:48 +0100 From: "Christopher Morgan" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JAMES WHITE, BALLINDERRY, ANTRIM To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Nancy, You are lucky to have so much White information! The following may sound quite a lot, but it's not getting me anywhere in proving any previous generations. I doubt it's of any help to you, but one never knows. My g.g.grandfather Thomas MORGAN died 18th June 1874 at 23 Mill Street, Belfast. From his children's Presbyterian baptism records I know his wife was Margaret WHITE. She died 28th November 1878, aged 75, at 10 Percy Street, Belfast. I've found their grave, sadly unmarked. She was a dressmaker in partnership with Mary (Philip) Morgan from Edinburgh. (Related? That's another unexplained story to be resolved.) >From the will of Thomas there are beneficiaries James White who is given ?10, the son of Thomas White, and Margaret White, daughter of Thomas White who is given ?15. My working suspicion is that Thomas was the brother of Margaret, and James is her nephew, and Margaret her niece. I cannot prove where Thomas Morgan and Margaret White married, or where they came from. However, White is rather a common surname. Thomas Morgan had a son, also Thomas Morgan, who moved to Newcastle upon Tyne and went into partnership with (later Sir) Joseph Wilson Swan - who was married successively to 2 White ladies from Liverpool. (The second marriage to his sister in-law, in Switzerland after his first wife died, because its wasn't legal in England at that time.) Thomas then went on to marry in Newcastle, and his mother-in-law was also a White from Tyneside! So, I have 3 separate White lines to track, with nothing more than coincidence to link them together, and precious little hard evidence available. Unless anyone can suggest otherwise, of course. Chris Morgan Sheffield

Nancy, You are lucky to have so much White information! The following may sound quite a lot, but it's not getting me anywhere in proving any previous generations. I doubt it's of any help to you, but one never knows. My g.g.grandfather Thomas MORGAN died 18th June 1874 at 23 Mill Street, Belfast. From his children's Presbyterian baptism records I know his wife was Margaret WHITE. She died 28th November 1878, aged 75, at 10 Percy Street, Belfast. I've found their grave, sadly unmarked. She was a dressmaker in partnership with Mary (Philip) Morgan from Edinburgh. (Related? That's another unexplained story to be resolved.) >From the will of Thomas there are beneficiaries James White who is given £10, the son of Thomas White, and Margaret White, daughter of Thomas White who is given £15. My working suspicion is that Thomas was the brother of Margaret, and James is her nephew, and Margaret her niece. I cannot prove where Thomas Morgan and Margaret White married, or where they came from. However, White is rather a common surname. Thomas Morgan had a son, also Thomas Morgan, who moved to Newcastle upon Tyne and went into partnership with (later Sir) Joseph Wilson Swan - who was married successively to 2 White ladies from Liverpool. (The second marriage to his sister in-law, in Switzerland after his first wife died, because its wasn't legal in England at that time.) Thomas then went on to marry in Newcastle, and his mother-in-law was also a White from Tyneside! So, I have 3 separate White lines to track, with nothing more than coincidence to link them together, and precious little hard evidence available. Unless anyone can suggest otherwise, of course. Chris Morgan Sheffield ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Schaalje" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:22 PM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] JAMES WHITE, BALLINDERRY, ANTRIM >I am hoping one of your subscribers may be able to help me. > > I am searching for information on James White and his wife, Ann Jane > _______ (perhaps Dane?) > > I have found the couple on the fragments of the 1851 Census (lucky!) in > Aghadavy townland, Ballinderry, Antrim with the following information: > > Ann Jane White head age 39 (born abt 1812) Co Down > > Eliza White, dau, age 16 (born abt 1835, actually 1833) Co Antrim > > Mercy White, dau, age 14 (born abt 1837) Co Antrim > > James White, son, age 11 (born abt 1840) Co Antrim > > Ann Jane White, dau, age 7 (born about 1844) Co Antrim > > Deaths since 1841 - James White, Winter 1844, blacksmith, age 34 (born > abt 1810) > > I am aware of one other son, William White who was born about 1831, and > was not at home at the time of the census as he was apprenticing as a > blacksmith in Belfast. > > I have since found Eliza White in Ulster Historical foundation records, > baptised in Ballinderry Church of Ireland but none of the other children > were recorded there. > > The family moved to Belfast some time after 1851 and 2 of the 3 daughters > were married in the Presbyterian Church. So I am wondering if the rest of > the children will be found in the Presbyterian Church in Ballinderry. > > My greatest desire is to find the marriage record of James White and Ann > Jane, probably about 1830 > > Any help or advice would be appreciated. Thank you. > > Nancy > Alberta, Canada > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Alice Cochrane wrote: > Hello, > > This is a correction to my previous notice/s re my Great Grandfather, > William COCHRAN/e, born c1825, County Antrim, Ireland, s/o ?Cochran > and ?Crawford. I had been told he was from Belfast but now learn his > parents were farmers in County Antrim, Ireland. I am trying to find > the exact parish and townland; any help would be most appreciated. > In 1844 he sailed to New York City with "his uncles" and then left > them and went to Pembroke area, Ontario, Canada. He married Margaret > Ann Mathews/Matthews in Pembroke in 1848 and the names of their > children were Margaret, Elizabeth, Nancy, William (Jr.), Ann, Sarah, > John and Jane. Margaret Ann Mathews was the daughter of John Mathews > and Margaret Hamilton of Dromara, County Down, Ireland. Thanks for > your time. > > Alice Cochrane > > Also researching in County Antrim, Ireland: Stewarts in Portglenone > and Craigs Parishes, County Antrim > >

I am hoping one of your subscribers may be able to help me. I am searching for information on James White and his wife, Ann Jane _______ (perhaps Dane?) I have found the couple on the fragments of the 1851 Census (lucky!) in Aghadavy townland, Ballinderry, Antrim with the following information: Ann Jane White head age 39 (born abt 1812) Co Down Eliza White, dau, age 16 (born abt 1835, actually 1833) Co Antrim Mercy White, dau, age 14 (born abt 1837) Co Antrim James White, son, age 11 (born abt 1840) Co Antrim Ann Jane White, dau, age 7 (born about 1844) Co Antrim Deaths since 1841 - James White, Winter 1844, blacksmith, age 34 (born abt 1810) I am aware of one other son, William White who was born about 1831, and was not at home at the time of the census as he was apprenticing as a blacksmith in Belfast. I have since found Eliza White in Ulster Historical foundation records, baptised in Ballinderry Church of Ireland but none of the other children were recorded there. The family moved to Belfast some time after 1851 and 2 of the 3 daughters were married in the Presbyterian Church. So I am wondering if the rest of the children will be found in the Presbyterian Church in Ballinderry. My greatest desire is to find the marriage record of James White and Ann Jane, probably about 1830 Any help or advice would be appreciated. Thank you. Nancy Alberta, Canada

Alice go into www.automatedgenealogy.com and do a search on your Cochran or Cochrane in the 1852 census. I see there's some in Carleton. Your Pembroke is in Renfrew County but it just might have been Carleton originally. I am so so sorry, I'm leaving for Ireland tomorrow but please know once I get back at the end of the month I would be more then happy to help you with your search. I live near Toronto in Ontario so it won't be any trouble. Good luck with other replies. I do have a lot of websites I can offer you to view once I get more time. Susan > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 00:13:33 -0600 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] William COCHRAN/e, County Antrim, Ireland > > Hello, > > This is a correction to my previous notice/s re my Great Grandfather, > William COCHRAN/e, born c1825, County Antrim, Ireland, s/o ?Cochran and > ?Crawford. I had been told he was from Belfast but now learn _his > parents were farmers in County Antrim, Ireland_. I am trying to find > the exact parish and townland; any help would be most appreciated. In > 1844 he sailed to New York City with "his uncles" and then left them and > went to Pembroke area, Ontario, Canada. He married Margaret Ann > Mathews/Matthews in Pembroke in 1848 and the names of their children > were Margaret, Elizabeth, Nancy, William (Jr.), Ann, Sarah, John and > Jane. Margaret Ann Mathews was the daughter of John Mathews and > Margaret Hamilton of Dromara, County Down, Ireland. Thanks for your time. > > Alice Cochrane > > Also researching in County Antrim, Ireland: Stewarts in Portglenone > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, This is a correction to my previous notice/s re my Great Grandfather, William COCHRAN/e, born c1825, County Antrim, Ireland, s/o ?Cochran and ?Crawford. I had been told he was from Belfast but now learn _his parents were farmers in County Antrim, Ireland_. I am trying to find the exact parish and townland; any help would be most appreciated. In 1844 he sailed to New York City with "his uncles" and then left them and went to Pembroke area, Ontario, Canada. He married Margaret Ann Mathews/Matthews in Pembroke in 1848 and the names of their children were Margaret, Elizabeth, Nancy, William (Jr.), Ann, Sarah, John and Jane. Margaret Ann Mathews was the daughter of John Mathews and Margaret Hamilton of Dromara, County Down, Ireland. Thanks for your time. Alice Cochrane Also researching in County Antrim, Ireland: Stewarts in Portglenone

Angela, I think somebody has already suggested a find in County Down. If you examine 1911 data closely, you see John's wife and children are all born County Down. I'd suggest his origins are very close to the border between Antrim and Down, hence the confusion. Somebody may know exactly where the borders lie. I believe his birthplace is spelt Ballycarn, which is 6-10 km south of Belfast. In 1901, he is at Tower St Pottinger (Down), but I can't find Pottinger on Google maps. He is with his widowed mother Sarah. Her age of 35 suggests she was very young when John was born. As it was after 1864, you should find his birth on FamilySearch beta or Irish Family History Foundation websites. His occupation is also a clue. In 1901 he is a driller and in 1911 a riveter. Occupations consistent with ship building perhaps? The only other possibility in 1901 is an 18 yr old farmer's son. It doesn't fit on age or occupation. Peter

Robert that is so kind of you to respond to this post. I've worked with you in the past and you found some interesting data on my family. Keep up the great work, Susan > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 16:00:24 +0000 > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] John & Elizabeth Glenn - 1911 Census - 21 Alloa StreetClifton Antrim > > > > > > > Hello Angela, > > > > Tower Street was a 19th century street of terrace houses built to accomodate ship yard workers and rope makers. > > It is situated at the bottom of the Newtownards Road in East Belfast not far from what is now the "Titanic Quarter" > > The Parish is Ballymacarrett, The Electoral District is Pottinger {short for Mountpottinger} and the County is Down. > > East Belfast is in County Down. The rest of Belfast {North West and South} is in County Antrim. > > > > best regards > > Robert > > www.ulsterancestry.com > > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 20:23:17 +1000 > > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] John & Elizabeth Glenn - 1911 Census - 21 Alloa StreetClifton Antrim > > > > Angela, > > > > I think somebody has already suggested a find in County Down. If you > > examine 1911 data closely, you see John's wife and children are all born > > County Down. > > > > I'd suggest his origins are very close to the border between Antrim and > > Down, hence the confusion. Somebody may know exactly where the borders lie. > > > > I believe his birthplace is spelt Ballycarn, which is 6-10 km south of > > Belfast. > > > > In 1901, he is at Tower St Pottinger (Down), but I can't find Pottinger > > on Google maps. He is with his widowed mother Sarah. Her age of 35 suggests > > she was very young when John was born. As it was after 1864, you should find > > his birth on FamilySearch beta or Irish Family History Foundation websites. > > > > His occupation is also a clue. In 1901 he is a driller and in 1911 a > > riveter. Occupations consistent with ship building perhaps? > > > > The only other possibility in 1901 is an 18 yr old farmer's son. It > > doesn't fit on age or occupation. > > > > Peter > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Angela, Tower Street was a 19th century street of terrace houses built to accomodate ship yard workers and rope makers. It is situated at the bottom of the Newtownards Road in East Belfast not far from what is now the "Titanic Quarter" The Parish is Ballymacarrett, The Electoral District is Pottinger {short for Mountpottinger} and the County is Down. East Belfast is in County Down. The rest of Belfast {North West and South} is in County Antrim. best regards Robert www.ulsterancestry.com > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 20:23:17 +1000 > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] John & Elizabeth Glenn - 1911 Census - 21 Alloa StreetClifton Antrim > > Angela, > > I think somebody has already suggested a find in County Down. If you > examine 1911 data closely, you see John's wife and children are all born > County Down. > > I'd suggest his origins are very close to the border between Antrim and > Down, hence the confusion. Somebody may know exactly where the borders lie. > > I believe his birthplace is spelt Ballycarn, which is 6-10 km south of > Belfast. > > In 1901, he is at Tower St Pottinger (Down), but I can't find Pottinger > on Google maps. He is with his widowed mother Sarah. Her age of 35 suggests > she was very young when John was born. As it was after 1864, you should find > his birth on FamilySearch beta or Irish Family History Foundation websites. > > His occupation is also a clue. In 1901 he is a driller and in 1911 a > riveter. Occupations consistent with ship building perhaps? > > The only other possibility in 1901 is an 18 yr old farmer's son. It > doesn't fit on age or occupation. > > Peter > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pottinger is an electoral division in Belfast. Belfast is divided by the River Lagan hence some census returns are Down, some Armagh Pauline www.irishhomesteads.com On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Peter Booth <[email protected]>wrote: > Angela, > > I think somebody has already suggested a find in County Down. If you > examine 1911 data closely, you see John's wife and children are all born > County Down. > > I'd suggest his origins are very close to the border between Antrim and > Down, hence the confusion. Somebody may know exactly where the borders lie. > > I believe his birthplace is spelt Ballycarn, which is 6-10 km south of > Belfast. > > In 1901, he is at Tower St Pottinger (Down), but I can't find Pottinger > on Google maps. He is with his widowed mother Sarah. Her age of 35 suggests > she was very young when John was born. As it was after 1864, you should > find > his birth on FamilySearch beta or Irish Family History Foundation websites. > > His occupation is also a clue. In 1901 he is a driller and in 1911 a > riveter. Occupations consistent with ship building perhaps? > > The only other possibility in 1901 is an 18 yr old farmer's son. It > doesn't fit on age or occupation. > > Peter > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Angela There is a John Glenn aged 21 in Tower Street, Presbyterian. Maybe you did not find it because this is County Down. Just put in John Glenn aged 20 and no county and you will get some possibilities Pauline www.irishhomesteads.com On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Angela <[email protected]> wrote: > I have found the above family on the 1911 census, but cannot locate John > Glenn as a 20yr old, born in Ballycairn & presumably single on the 1901 > census. > > Can anyone help me please? > > Warm Wishes Angela > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >