I have just uploaded part 2 of Ballintoy Graveyard. The photos were contributed by Marian Aelick. The transcription was done by Janis Hessen. Marian did a wonderful job photographing this cemetery. By taking these photos Marian has helped to preserve them. She deserves our thanks. I am also very grateful to Janis Hessen and Karin Duncan for their work on the text. Transcribing headstones is tedious work as I know. LOL People who don't know where to find this great addition can find it using Google and other search engines. I hope you enjoy the photos. It is a beautiful church/cemetery. If there are errors in our reading of the any of the headstones, please let me know off list so I can fix it. To view go to: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ Pick ANTRIM and then Headstones. If you have contributions of headstones, please share them. :) Merry Christmas, Christina ===============================

Dave A very good Scottish principle to go through all the free sources first. When I was in Ayrshire in September this year, I meet William Hunter 32 Overton Crescent West Kilbride Ayrshire KA23 9HG [email protected] >From the Clan Hunter Association UK. He may be able to point you to any group that are operation in Northern Ireland. Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Long" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] HUNTER - Dunmurry (County Antrim) > Thanks Peter Booth + Mike Boyd > > Being based on another continent, I wanted to see how far I can go > "online" > for free before having to pay someone to consult the physical documents > (e.g. Parish Registers, Statutory Records) or to get full access to > certain > databases (Tithe Applotments, etc). >

Thanks Peter Booth + Mike Boyd Being based on another continent, I wanted to see how far I can go "online" for free before having to pay someone to consult the physical documents (e.g. Parish Registers, Statutory Records) or to get full access to certain databases (Tithe Applotments, etc). Though I have a good book on "Tracing Your Irish Ancestors", I decided to first see how far I can go on the Internet before consulting the book. My starting point has been the Ireland Genealogy Project - Antrim County website at http://www.igp-web.com/antrim/index.htm I have found this website great for guiding me through the process and pointing me to other websites. It aligns to most of the other "How to" guides in terms of coverage. However, it looks like I have exhausted most of the free stuff. I have looked at the Griffiths Valuation and using the Place Name search at Ask About Ireland (http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml) and found a William, Alexander, Jane and James Hunter at Dunmurry Townland. The site also provides a good map from the time of the Valuation and pinpoints where these people lived. The map also shows the Drumbeg and neighbouring Shankhill Parish boundaries. A lot of sources to consider but some relationships are starting to form between the names. This will be further enhanced by baptism records, family history collections, etc. My only concern having done some research on Scottish Clans is that there might be some similarities whereby the laird/landowner had many farmers - who mostly had the same surname as the laird. However, it appears to me that the landowner at the time was Marquis of Donegal? and these Hunters were the lessors. I must add that the Will Calendars now being loaded on the Proni website are particularly interesting. I even found a James Hunter of Dunmurry being a witness for a Hunter in another Antrim parish. Relationships also start becoming clearer. Dunmurry seems to be part of Belfast District Probate Office: http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/will_calendars.htm Thanks for the advice. Dave

Lee, You might look for her death certificate. If known, that should give how long in colony, spouses and children. If in NSW, it's cheaper using a transcription agent like Joy Murrin. It's after the introduction of Civil Registration in Ireland in 1864, so you might try the new Beta search at www.familysearch.org Otherwise, you should find something on http://www.rootsireland.ie/ But it's a pay site and you need to register. You can do a certain amount of searching for free, which might give enough clues. Check for parents' marriage, other possible children and their deaths. I couldn't see them in 1901 census. As they would only be around 60, it's possible they also migrated. Check also for possible marriage for Mary. Moruya suggest to me that Mary possibly arrived via Melbourne. I can't see a Mary Hagan in NSW Assisted Immigrants, but she could come as Mary McDonald or be Unassisted. I presume you've searched the Antrim archives for other Hagan postings. I'd also look at submitted trees on Rootsweb and Ancestry. There's no single place that will give you all the data. You have to check a whole range of places one by one. And there will always be some you don't think of like Australian NLA Newspaper Archives for instance. Peter in Sydney

Hello Listers, I am researching my great-grandmother, Mary Hagan, who was born 1870/71 in Co Antrim. Recently acquired birth certificates for her children state 'Bog Hill, Antrim, Ireland' and 'Abogfull, Antrim'. Her parents were Hugh Hagan (no further information), sic, and Susannah Darnock (no further information), sic, spelling variations are very possible. I have found no marriage certificate for this couple, nor can I find any birth/death records. Mary emigrated, arriving in Australia sometime before 1899. I do not know whether she was single or married at the time. She married an unknown 'McDonald' but I don't know whether that was in Ireland or elsewhere. She was widowed when she married William Davis in 1899, Moruya, NSW, Australia. It is unknown whether 'McDonald' died in Ireland or emigrated also. I am wondering whether any one may be connected to this family or have come across my Hugh Hagan and family in their research? Any suggestions on how to find any records of this family would very much be appreciated. Kindest regards, Lee Carr, nee Davis Picnic Point, NSW, Australia

I'm sorry I have no information about your Mary Hagan. My g.grandmother was a Mary Hegan, daughter of Robert Hegan. We have no Hugh's in our ancestral records to date, although we haven't found exactly where they came from to be in Belfast by about 1850. Currently I suspect to the north of Carrickfergus, west of Larne, possibly near Ballycor and the Six-mile-water area. However, you already know spellings were very variable at that time! Our Mary signed the church register clearly as Hegan, yet the vicar has recorded it as Hagan in his part of the entry, and so it appears in all official records. So far I have found potential leads with spellings, Hagan, Hegan, Heggan, Hagin, Heggen and Higgin to name but a few. Names tended to be written down as they sounded, and all these can be very similar in local dialects. Every family seems to have had a Mary, too! Good luck with your search, Chris Morgan Sheffield ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Carr" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 11:01 AM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Mary Hagan > Hello Listers, > > I am researching my great-grandmother, Mary Hagan, who was born 1870/71 in > Co Antrim. Recently acquired birth certificates for her children state > 'Bog > Hill, Antrim, Ireland' and 'Abogfull, Antrim'. > > > > Her parents were Hugh Hagan (no further information), sic, and Susannah > Darnock (no further information), sic, spelling variations are very > possible. I have found no marriage certificate for this couple, nor can I > find any birth/death records. > > > > Mary emigrated, arriving in Australia sometime before 1899. I do not know > whether she was single or married at the time. > > > > She married an unknown 'McDonald' but I don't know whether that was in > Ireland or elsewhere. She was widowed when she married William Davis in > 1899, Moruya, NSW, Australia. It is unknown whether 'McDonald' died in > Ireland or emigrated also. > > > > I am wondering whether any one may be connected to this family or have > come > across my Hugh Hagan and family in their research? > > > > Any suggestions on how to find any records of this family would very much > be > appreciated. > > > > Kindest regards, > > > > Lee Carr, nee Davis > > Picnic Point, NSW, Australia > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dave, I see you've only recently started, so you just need to do a little bit more work to pick up as many clues as possible. Unfortunately, there just isn't a one stop shop that will give you all the information. And unlike England and Scotland, there are no census records which would give the entire family together. Griffiths Valuations from around 1855 only show tenant names, so you don't get ages, spouses or any other details. Tithe Applotments and Flax Grower lists are about 10 yrs earlier, but again only show a single name. If you're lucky, all you will find is they stayed in the same location, which then determines a townland and parish to continue your search for BDM data. On Griffiths Valuation, I can see 301 tenants named Hunter. So the surname is fairly common. When I look for James, there are over 50 possibilities, but only two in Dunmurry. But there appear to be two Dunmurry's. One in the parish of Drumbeg & one in the parish of Shankhill. Perhaps a lister with local knowledge can explain the two. Or if you try Genuki, you should be able to find parishes of Antrim. Otherwise just Google it. I also noticed an Alexander Hunter in Dunmurry in Griffiths. May be a brother, father or other relative. The James and Alexander names as opposed to traditional Irish names like Patrick, Michael, Daniel etc make me think that the family origins may be Scottish. Hope this gives some clues to get you started. Peter

Dave What did the Griffith Valuation for Dunmurry tell you? I think this would be for about 1860's. So it may tell you where they lived before they left Ireland. Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Booth" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] HUNTER - Dunmurry (County Antrim) > Dave, > > Where have you looked? > > I'd start with the free sites. Try www.familysearch.org and then try > their new Beta site from the same link. > > Also look for submitted trees at Rootsweb of try Googling names using > quotation marks. > > Fimally, try http://www.rootsireland.ie/ It's a pay site, but you > can > do a large degree of free searching simply by registering. It has pretty > good coverage of Antrim > > Good Luck, > > Ptere > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dave, Where have you looked? I'd start with the free sites. Try www.familysearch.org and then try their new Beta site from the same link. Also look for submitted trees at Rootsweb of try Googling names using quotation marks. Fimally, try http://www.rootsireland.ie/ It's a pay site, but you can do a large degree of free searching simply by registering. It has pretty good coverage of Antrim Good Luck, Ptere

Do you think the city could be "Ahoghill"? It's near Ballymena in Mid-Antrim. Linda On Dec 6, 2010, at 6:01 AM, Lee Carr wrote: > Hello Listers, > > I am researching my great-grandmother, Mary Hagan, who was born 1870/71 in > Co Antrim. Recently acquired birth certificates for her children state 'Bog > Hill, Antrim, Ireland' and 'Abogfull, Antrim'. > > > > Her parents were Hugh Hagan (no further information), sic, and Susannah > Darnock (no further information), sic, spelling variations are very > possible. I have found no marriage certificate for this couple, nor can I > find any birth/death records. > > > > Mary emigrated, arriving in Australia sometime before 1899. I do not know > whether she was single or married at the time. > > > > She married an unknown 'McDonald' but I don't know whether that was in > Ireland or elsewhere. She was widowed when she married William Davis in > 1899, Moruya, NSW, Australia. It is unknown whether 'McDonald' died in > Ireland or emigrated also. > > > > I am wondering whether any one may be connected to this family or have come > across my Hugh Hagan and family in their research? > > > > Any suggestions on how to find any records of this family would very much be > appreciated. > > > > Kindest regards, > > > > Lee Carr, nee Davis > > Picnic Point, NSW, Australia > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello list! I have only recently started to research my Antrim roots and would appreciate any info please on the HUNTER families that lived in and around Dunmurry more than a hundred years ago. The name seems to disappear from the Street Directories from around 1900. According to deceased estate records in South Africa, the following HUNTER brothers had their "Place of Birth" listed as Dunmurry: - William HUNTER (b. about 1836) - Alexander HUNTER (b. about 1846) - George Crawford HUNTER (b. about 1850). - Maurice HUNTER (b. about 1845) - John HUNTER ? Their father is listed as James HUNTER and their mother as Elizabeth or Eliza Hunter. She may have been born CRAWFORD or LINDSAY (as these family names appear as second and third names of later descendants). Their sons appear to have immigrated to South Africa between 1860-75. Most ended up in agricultural businesses and farming near Kimberley (around the time that diamonds were discovered there). The Crawford's took over the Hunter's businesses in Dunmurry around 1870. An Eliza LINDSAY also married a James Hunter and stayed at Dunmurry House. These were the Linen and Bleaching entrepreneurs and Millers that lived in the "Big Houses". Not sure if my Hunter's are linked or if they were farmers from in and around Dunmurry. There is also to possibility they were soldiers that decided to stay in the Cape Colony after service. If anyone has any ideas about which regiments could have recruited soldiers for the Cape, please let me know. Regards Dave (Cape Town)

Does anyone on the Antrim list have this family of Thomas Boyd and Jane Hillis? I am about to make a "draft" family chapter on what I have of this family to go into Volume 7 of Clan Boyd of Scotland for Boyd families in County Antrim. I would like to hear from you please. AS you can see this familyof Thomas and Jane, left County Antrim in 1763 and went to Maryland and later went to Fayette Co., PA - which is in hte SW corner of PA. Thank you Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS ----- Original Message ----- From: Mindy Householder To: Mike Boyd Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: William Boyd and Ann Jack of Frederick County, VA and later Bullskin Twsp. of Fayette Co., PA Mike, Do you have a contact for her? I came across this family and have even started a file on them. I have alot of information on them. Apparently William's parents were: Thomas Boyd b. abt 1730 Antrim, County Antrim, Ireland Jane Hillis b abt 1732 Antrim, County Antrim, Ireland They left Ireland in 1763 arriving in Maryland. Thomas and Jane had 7 Children: William b. abt 1752 Robert b. abt 1753, Ireland d. August 24, 1824, Virginia Married Esther McConnell b. May 24, 1768, Berkeley County, Virginia d. May 24, 1824 Frederick County, Virginia They had 6 children. John b. abt 1754 Hugh b abt 1754 Nancy b abt 1755 Infant Daughter b. abt 1756 d. infancy Born and died in Ireland David B. abt 1758 All of Thomas and Jane's children were born in County Antrim, Ireland. I have information on William and Robert so far. Would you like me to organize the paperwork mess and send it to you? Alot of my Line is in the same area as this line and I have been concentrating the my search a little more there. Mindy On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: Mindy, still catching up. From an 1998 query by Jim Boyd Recently I have spoken to a lady that has Boyd ancestral ties. She depends on alternate sources of genealogical data other than the internet so I offered to post an inquiry for her. William Boyd, Esq. B - 1752 "Came with his family from Frederick County, VA. to Bullskin Twsp. of Fayette Co., PA." Educated, served as Justice of the Peace, owned 240 acres in PA. D - 1812, interred in a private cemetary located on his farm. M - Ann Jack 1757-1797 Son: Robert Boyd B - 1782 VA. Grew up in Bullskin, married and moved to a farm in Menallen Twsp, Fayette Co. PA. Served as associate judge of the Courts of Fayette County. D - 1853, interred in Oak Grove Cemetary of Fayette Co. M - Rebekah Work 1785 - 1847 Dau: Mary Boyd B - 13 April 1810 D - 13 November 1890 M - Davis Woodward on 27 November 1823 This family of William Boyd and Ann Jack from Frederick County, VA would seem to be a new family chapter to me, so can you send any more details to Walter Boyd the State Historian for VA so that he can start a new family chapter for this family Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS ----- Original Message ----- From: Mindy Householder To: Mike Boyd ; [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 4:22 AM Subject: David Boyd Found this is in local library and it is a Boyd that I can't remember coming across before. SOURCE: Genealogical and Personal History of Fayette County, Pennsylvania Publisher: Lewis Historical Publishing Company, New York, 1912 It has several decendents of William Boyd (1752 - 1812) and Ann Jack (1757 - 1797. Mindy

Mike, Do you have any info that suggests the Aiken/Akin/Aken families of Co. Antrim were connected to any of your Boyds? I have letters connecting the Aikens with my Burnsides - both families from around Galgorm Park. The Aikens immigrated to near Baltimore in the late 1700's and then moved into the sw of PA and then up to Beaver Co. Thanks so much, Linda On Dec 2, 2010, at 1:52 AM, Mike Boyd wrote: > Does anyone on the Antrim list have this family of Thomas Boyd and Jane Hillis? > > I am about to make a "draft" family chapter on what I have of this family to go into Volume 7 of Clan Boyd of Scotland for Boyd families in County Antrim. > > I would like to hear from you please. > > AS you can see this familyof Thomas and Jane, left County Antrim in 1763 and went to Maryland and later went to Fayette Co., PA - which is in hte SW corner of PA. > > Thank you > > Mike Boyd > Historical Committee, HBS > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mindy Householder > To: Mike Boyd > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 1:10 PM > Subject: Re: William Boyd and Ann Jack of Frederick County, VA and later Bullskin Twsp. of Fayette Co., PA > > > Mike, Do you have a contact for her? I came across this family and have even started a file on them. I have alot of information on them. > > Apparently William's parents were: > Thomas Boyd b. abt 1730 Antrim, County Antrim, Ireland > Jane Hillis b abt 1732 Antrim, County Antrim, Ireland > They left Ireland in 1763 arriving in Maryland. > > Thomas and Jane had 7 Children: > > William b. abt 1752 > Robert b. abt 1753, Ireland > d. August 24, 1824, Virginia > Married > Esther McConnell b. May 24, 1768, Berkeley County, Virginia > d. May 24, 1824 Frederick County, Virginia > They had 6 children. > John b. abt 1754 > Hugh b abt 1754 > Nancy b abt 1755 > Infant Daughter b. abt 1756 d. infancy Born and died in Ireland > David B. abt 1758 > > All of Thomas and Jane's children were born in County Antrim, Ireland. > > I have information on William and Robert so far. Would you like me to organize the paperwork mess and send it to you? > > Alot of my Line is in the same area as this line and I have been concentrating the my search a little more there. > > Mindy > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > > Mindy, still catching up. > > From an 1998 query by Jim Boyd > > > Recently I have spoken to a lady that has Boyd ancestral ties. She depends on alternate sources of genealogical data other than the internet so I offered to post an inquiry for her. > > William Boyd, Esq. > B - 1752 > "Came with his family from Frederick County, VA. to Bullskin Twsp. of Fayette Co., PA." > Educated, served as Justice of the Peace, owned 240 acres in PA. > D - 1812, interred in a private cemetary located on his farm. > M - Ann Jack 1757-1797 > > Son: > Robert Boyd > B - 1782 VA. > Grew up in Bullskin, married and moved to a farm in Menallen Twsp, Fayette Co. PA. Served as associate judge of the Courts of Fayette County. > D - 1853, interred in Oak Grove Cemetary of Fayette Co. > M - Rebekah Work 1785 - 1847 > > Dau: > Mary Boyd > B - 13 April 1810 > D - 13 November 1890 > M - Davis Woodward on 27 November 1823 > > This family of William Boyd and Ann Jack from Frederick County, VA would seem to be a new family chapter to me, so can you send any more details to Walter Boyd the State Historian for VA so that he can start a new family chapter for this family > > Mike Boyd > Historical Committee, HBS > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mindy Householder > To: Mike Boyd ; [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 4:22 AM > Subject: David Boyd > > > Found this is in local library and it is a Boyd that I can't remember coming across before. > > > SOURCE: Genealogical and Personal History of Fayette County, Pennsylvania > Publisher: Lewis Historical Publishing Company, New York, 1912 > > It has several decendents of William Boyd (1752 - 1812) and Ann Jack (1757 - 1797. > > Mindy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ann Who gave the data for Alexander's death details? They may not have know where he was born. So at this stage you may need to look at both Belfasst and Randalstown to see if you can find him in either place. Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "ann menzies" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 8:25 AM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] ALLISON and BLAIR > Still looking for the birth of Alexander Allison. > Further to my email of 21 November. > I have found the death certificate for Alexander Allison. He died in 1941 > and according to that he was born 1860/61. It gives his place of birth as > Belfast rather than Randalstown which is what is on his Marriage > certificate. > His parents are John ALLISON and Jane BLAIR > > Thank you > Ann > Cairns,Australia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Still looking for the birth of Alexander Allison. Further to my email of 21 November. I have found the death certificate for Alexander Allison. He died in 1941 and according to that he was born 1860/61. It gives his place of birth as Belfast rather than Randalstown which is what is on his Marriage certificate. His parents are John ALLISON and Jane BLAIR Thank you Ann Cairns,Australia

Elizabeth - I have photos of some old Barber and Barbour headstones in three graveyards near Muckamore: - Carmavy - St.Johns, Donegore - Antrim new cemetery Don't think I can attach them to this message, so if you'd like copies please email me directly at: highestpubatbtinternetdotcom John

Replied off-list. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Marquess" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:45 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] John Barber in Templepatrick > Elizabeth - > > I have photos of some old Barber and Barbour headstones in three > graveyards near Muckamore: > > - Carmavy > - St.Johns, Donegore > - Antrim new cemetery > > Don't think I can attach them to this message, so if you'd like copies > please email me directly at: > highestpubatbtinternetdotcom > > John > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is my bookmark for this amazingly useful resource http://www.ucs.louisiana.edu/cgi-bin/belfst/QueryForm1.cgi Note that you have to scroll down to get to the query form I found a Samuel Barber in British subscribing to a local man's book of poems in 1806. The townland may also be spelled Brittas L

Thanks everyone for your replies. I thought perhaps there was something else for me to search for my DALE family of Ballycloghan, Ballymena. My DALE family might have been only farm labourers at the time so were not included in the Tithe list. Shirlee Cantwell (Dale) Wellington, NZ

Hi Elizabeth try this link www.ucs.louisiana.edu/cgi-bin/belfst/QueryForm1.cgi John -------------------------------------------------- From: "Elizabeth Abbott" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 6:25 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] John Barber in Templepatrick > I tried the link included with your email (below) but I wasn't able to > get past the first page. Do you have any other way to access John > Barber's name on this website? > > Thanks Linde, > > Elizabeth > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DIB" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 2:39 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] John Barber in Templepatrick > > >> Elizabeth >> >> the index to the Belfast News Letter at >> http://www.ucs.louisiana.edu/cgi-bin/belfst/Search.cgi has several >> John Barbers (or the same individual) in late eighteenth century >> south Antrim; in the parish of Killead and near Muckamore; both of >> these places could be said to be near Templepatrick. A mile or two >> away. Lisburn also listed is a bit further away, 10 miles perhaps, >> but of course he could have been from between Lisburn and >> Templepatrick. There are of course even more entries for Barbers not >> John; I didn't check all the names, but certainly there seem to have >> been Barbers in Killead for several generations. The word "British" >> used in the index puzzled me, but it turns out there is a townland in >> Killead called British. Have a look at the lists of names listed >> along with John Barber from Killead and see how many of them re-occur >> in the area in Canada in which he settled. I know of at least one >> other family from Muckamore which emigrated to Ontario in 1845; >> Refords >> >> Linde Lunney >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >