Hi Cari, It shows a name, but the handwriting is difficult to read. They were married in the Registrar's Office according to some "Provision" which again is difficult to decipher. The name looks like "George Major" so will try to Google that plus "Antrim" or "Lisburn." Thanks for replying. Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn "Cari" Thomas" <western37@cox.net> To: <IRL-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 12:20 PM Subject: [Antrim] Finding venue of marriage ceremony when you have a certificate > >From: "Joan Eddy" <eddyjoan@comcast.net> > Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 07:16:47 -0700 > To: IRL-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Antrim] Re: Marriage > >>Thanks, Rosemary. I think you may be right that they were married in a civil > ceremony. I do have the marriage certificate--it does show fathers names > and occupations as well as the bride and groom. I would like to find names > of churches in the area (Ballynadolly, Parish of Magheragall) to write for > baptismal records of their three children. Any suggestions? > > Hi Joan, > > Since you have the marriage certificate, does it show the minister's name > (or whoever officiated at the marriage)? If so, that might be the very best > way to locate the correct venue for the ceremony. You can first try a google > search for that person's name (name in quotes, and add Antrim or another > more specific identifier with it), whether the wedding was civil or > religious. > > Good luck. > Cari Thomas > >

>From: "Joan Eddy" <eddyjoan@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 07:16:47 -0700 To: IRL-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Antrim] Re: Marriage >Thanks, Rosemary. I think you may be right that they were married in a civil ceremony. I do have the marriage certificate--it does show fathers names and occupations as well as the bride and groom. I would like to find names of churches in the area (Ballynadolly, Parish of Magheragall) to write for baptismal records of their three children. Any suggestions? Hi Joan, Since you have the marriage certificate, does it show the minister's name (or whoever officiated at the marriage)? If so, that might be the very best way to locate the correct venue for the ceremony. You can first try a google search for that person's name (name in quotes, and add Antrim or another more specific identifier with it), whether the wedding was civil or religious. Good luck. Cari Thomas

Thanks, Rosemary. I think you may be right that they were married in a civil ceremony. I do have the marriage certificate--it does show fathers names and occupations as well as the bride and groom. I would like to find names of churches in the area (Ballynadolly, Parish of Magheragall) to write for baptismal records of their three children. Any suggestions? Joan in Tucson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosemary Nixon" <RJNEndeavors@webtv.net> To: <IRL-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 4:00 PM Subject: [Antrim] Re: Marriage > My guess on religion you asked about would be that they were not > Presbyterian. My gr grandparents marriage certificate read that the > marriage was performed "according to the discipline of the Presbterian > church". The lack of a title for the person performing the marrige > suggests to me that it might have been a civil ceremony.Send for the > marriage certificate. Mine had the fathers names and occupation as well > as that of the bride and groom > Rosemary > > > http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Choir/9848/prayer.html > >

My guess on religion you asked about would be that they were not Presbyterian. My gr grandparents marriage certificate read that the marriage was performed "according to the discipline of the Presbterian church". The lack of a title for the person performing the marrige suggests to me that it might have been a civil ceremony.Send for the marriage certificate. Mine had the fathers names and occupation as well as that of the bride and groom Rosemary http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Choir/9848/prayer.html

Several years ago at the Family History Center in Salt Lake, I found John Philips on the passenger list of the ship "Mary Edson" which arrived in New York from Belfast on September 2, 1863. John's age was shown as 20, occupation was "weaver." He was accompanied by his older sister, Esther, age 22, his brother Thomas, age 26, occupation "farmer servant", Thomas's wife, Hellena, also a "weaver," age 27, and their three children, Margaret, age 3, Mary age 5, and Esther, age 5 weeks. In the meantime I have found through IGI (Family History Center)and received a copy of Thomas and Hellena’s marriage certificate from Ulster Ancestry. It states the marriage was solemnized at the Registrar’s Office in the Town of Lisburn in the District of Lisburn on July 18th, 1856. Their residence at the time of marriage was “Ballynadolly, Parish of Magheragall.” They were married in the Registrar’s Office according to “the Provision of the Act 728 (?) (next words undecipherable) on Certificate by me. George ?” What I am trying to determine is what religion they were—his brother, John, (my great grandfather)was a practicing Roman Catholic in America. I do not know Thomas’s religion here in the States. Also the witnesses were Alexander Johnstons and Joana Smith—don’t believe they were relations—so maybe they ran away to get married as they were both 20 years of age. Also where is the townland of Ballynadolly—and is it close to the townland of Ballyclogh. Because in the Griffiths Valuation I find a John, Thomas and Robert Phillips in Ballyclogh, Parish of Magheragall. This John could be Thomas and John, Jr. (my ggrandfather) father. John, Sr. had a son Robert also, and his father was Robert (this info received from a pedigree chart of my aunt’s). Where might I obtain a map showing me this Parish and these townlands. Any what might Thomas’s religion be. How would I find the Catholic or Presbyterian churches in those areas where I could possibly write for baptismal records of Thomas’s children. Any help is most appreciated. Joan PHILLIPS Eddy Tucson, AZ

Anyone researching the OWENS surname from Antrim? Looking for Peter Owens b. circa 1810. Thanks, Paul W.

Looking for someone working on these families. I'm trying to find out if the Alexander McKay who married Mary Liddy Jan. 28, 1907 is the brother of Neil McKay who married Margaret Liddy Oct. 30, 1900. Neil was the son of Sarah McAleese and Dan McKay. I'm coming up with conflicting information. Jack

>"Hello - Need some help here. [Oh, gosh, don't we all? ;-) ] I'm wondering were I would find the phone book for Kilbride online. Hi Susan, Here's a good one to bookmark: Infobel's global directory home page: <http://www.infobel.com/teldir/default.asp> However, remember that Northern Ireland is considered part of the UK telephone system NOT "Ireland" per se. Cari Thomas

Susan, Have you tried a Google search for the phone book? A few years ago I mailed a letter to every household in an area with the right surname. Sent 8 letters, received 3 replies, one of which was from a brother I didn't know I had! It has been a wonderful experience. Good luck with your research. Nora "Hello - Need some help here. [Oh, gosh, don't we all? ;-) ] I'm wondering were I would find the phone book for Kilbride online. Am wondering if there might be some Ramseys there. Has anyone done this - contacted people of the same ancestor's last name still living in the area? Did you get a positive response? Regards, Susan"

Hello - Need some help here. [Oh, gosh, don't we all? ;-) ] I'm wondering were I would find the phone book for Kilbride online. Am wondering if there might be some Ramseys there. Has anyone done this - contacted people of the same ancestor's last name still living in the area? Did you get a positive response? Regards, Susan

Actually, I did do that in Ballymena. I sent a letter to any of the Mortons that lived in areas around there that seemed likely. And, yes I did get a response. In fact while my sister and I were in Ballymena, we met the person (his aunt's were the recipients of the letter but they gave it to him) and collected a lot of Morton information from him. We haven't solidly connected our families, but the likelihood is very high. I have also sent letters to people I know are related (having figured it out from our trip to Ballymena) and have not been able to get them to respond. So it is hit and miss. Good luck. http://www.bt.co.uk/index.jsp click find a person and put in the surname and location. Anne -----Original Message----- From: Susan Fowler [mailto:susan09131@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 4:44 PM To: IRL-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Antrim] Kilbride Ramseys Hello - Need some help here. [Oh, gosh, don't we all? ;-) ] I'm wondering were I would find the phone book for Kilbride online. Am wondering if there might be some Ramseys there. Has anyone done this - contacted people of the same ancestor's last name still living in the area? Did you get a positive response? Regards, Susan

Just a short note to ask if anyone may have any information for me yet. I am researching my grandfathers family; the Weir's. I have traced them through Scotland and into Ireland... but have hit a brick wall. I have a Robert Weir, son of ? Weir and Rachel Weir (Stewart) and a Sarah Drynan daughter of John Drynan and Jean Drynan (McClelland). Both Robert and Sarah were born around 1822 to 1828. Can anyone help? With thanks, Kaaron

Hi List, Added today at www.ulsterancestry.com Free Pages Gravestone Inscriptions for Malone Presbyterian Church Belfast Good Luck! Robert _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters

Hello to everyone I've just joined the list and thought I'd put my intrests out there. I'm looking for William White/Whyte (later Rev. William White) born 10 Dec 1856 most likely in Barrycarry. His father was Edward White and I have heard that his mother's maiden name was Beggs but I'm not entirely sure as yet. william went to Queen's University, Belfast 1873-1881 and graduated with a BA and MA. Married Agnes Jane Carleton 28 Jan 1879 in Newtownards. Had three children in Ireland, Robert Victor; Edith Adelaide; and Gertrude Maude. Immigrated to New Zealand in 1885 where he was ordained and had one son, William Theodore, in 1886. Would also appreciate any information on Agnes. She was born November 1856. Her parents were Robert Carleton and Margaret Jane Huddleston and they lived in Greayabbey. Natasha _________________________________________________________________ Check out the latest video @ http://xtra.co.nz/streaming

Thanks Lynette, will do. Cheers Melissa CHAPMAN - Leicester Eng, CHILDS - Australia & Hampshire Eng, COLE - Australia & Kent/Sussex Eng, GANNON - Australia & Ireland, OGARTH -Australia only, HOUGAARD - Denmark, HOOK - Australia & Kent Eng, LANGTON - Australia & Leicester Eng, SKINNER - Australia & Kent Eng, DUNK - Australia and Eng, MONKTON/MONCKTON- Australia & Kent Eng, REILLY-Antrim Nthn Ireland and Aust. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynette Rabbitt" <lrabbitt@big.net.au> To: <IRL-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Antrim] Newbie - looking for John Reilly > Melissa it is the cheapest form of checking on dead relatives - actually > found my own GG Grandfather that way and my brick wall came tumbling down. > > Lynette >

Melissa it is the cheapest form of checking on dead relatives - actually found my own GG Grandfather that way and my brick wall came tumbling down. Lynette

Hello Lynette I thought Obituary's were only for people with 'money', but I hadn't thought of that. Cheers Melissa CHAPMAN - Leicester Eng, CHILDS - Australia & Hampshire Eng, COLE - Australia & Kent/Sussex Eng, GANNON - Australia & Ireland, OGARTH -Australia only, HOUGAARD - Denmark, HOOK - Australia & Kent Eng, LANGTON - Australia & Leicester Eng, SKINNER - Australia & Kent Eng, DUNK - Australia and Eng, MONKTON/MONCKTON- Australia & Kent Eng, REILLY-Antrim Nthn Ireland and Aust. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynette Rabbitt" <lrabbitt@big.net.au> To: <IRL-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [Antrim] Newbie - looking for John Reilly > Melissa have you looked in the newspaper for an obituary? > > Also look at local papers as well as the capital city based ones. > > > Lynette >

Melissa have you looked in the newspaper for an obituary? Also look at local papers as well as the capital city based ones. Lynette

Hello All I have just joined your list in the hope of find more about my 2x gt grandfather John Reilly, this is all I have on him so far, taken from his death certificate which I received the other day. John Reilly b approx 1837 Antrim Ireland, Parents Patrick Reilly & Mary McCallum, d 1911 Redfern NSW Australia aged 74yo Between 1867 & 1873 he married Bridget O'Neill in Rockhampton Queensland Australia, age at time of marriage was 30yo (Bridget was informant on death cert & this could have been her age at time of marriage, I have ordered her death cert, to see what it says, if I cannot work it out I will order their marriage cert, but they are nearly twice as much as the death certs). John Spent 2 years in Queensland & 43 years in NSW Children from marriage were Arthur 43yo, Patrick 41, James 40, Mary 36, Thomas 34, Ellen 32 all living and 4 males & 1 female deceased. I am hoping anyone can put me in the right direction for find more about John's parents & siblings, his birth, shipping details & also if he may have been married before. Cheers Melissa CHAPMAN - Leicester Eng, CHILDS - Australia & Hampshire Eng, COLE - Australia & Kent/Sussex Eng, GANNON - Australia & Ireland, OGARTH -Australia only, HOUGAARD - Denmark, HOOK - Australia & Kent Eng, LANGTON - Australia & Leicester Eng, SKINNER - Australia & Kent Eng, DUNK - Australia and Eng, MONKTON/MONCKTON- Australia & Kent Eng.

Hello Mike, My Service family and i thank you for your help. Kind regards Janette