Hi, I don't suppose anyone has access to either the 1901 or 1911 census? I would love to be able to fine James PATTON and his wife Ellen from my previous post. I think in 1912 they were in Croagbeg. But they appear to have always been in the Ballintoy/Croagmore/Croagbeg area. I have no idea when they died but were still alive in 1912. I'm unfortunately miles & miles away from my nearest LDS centre. So I though it worth an ask even if not possible. Any help gratefully received. Regards Morag

Hi, I am researching the following families - James Patton (born v. approx 1840/5) married Ellen Kirkpatrick (born very approx the same time). They married 3 Aug 1866 at Croagmore presbyterian. James is listed as a Labourer from Ballyoglagh (I believe this is in Billy Parish?). his father is listed as John Patton, Labourer. Ellen Kirkpatrick is listed as being from Lisbellanagroagh and her father is listed as Robert Kirkpatrick, Farmer. James and Ellen had 7 children: John b. 1867 James b. 1869 Thomas b. 1871 Eleanor Jane b. 1873 Susanna b. 1875 Robert b. 1876 Alexander b. 1879 I have yet to get there birth records, but according to the IGI they where all born in the Croagh district or Ballintoy/BallyCastle area. I'm not really sure yet as to where to look for baptisms esp with them being Presbyterian. Thomas born in 1871 was my great Grandfather. Sometime before 1900 he came to Scotland and appeared to be living in Govan, Glasgow when he married an Elizabeth Golland Miller who was born in Rothesay, on the Isle of Bute. They married in Rothesay 16 Feb 1900 and are on the 1901 census together at Harmony Row, Govan, Glasgow. They had atleast 8 children including my Grandfather who was born in 1902 and died in 1943 during the 2nd world war. Thomas (1871) died in 1947 at Bridge Road, Renfrew, and was listed as a crane driver. His father James Patton is listed now as farmer, though i think he is more likely to have been still a labourer of some sort. I managed to find what I think is James Patton and Ellen Kirkpatrick's signatures on the Ulster Covenant in 1912 along with their son Alexander. I have: Place of signing: Dunsverick Orange Hall James Patton Address: Croaghbeg Alex Patton Address: Croaghbeg Ellen Patton Address: Croagbeg I think it's likely to be them. From oral history I know that my Paton's/Patton's in Glasgow, with the exception of my grandfather, were staunch protestants and freemasons. If anyone else is researching this family I would love to hear from you. Or if anyone has any info on any of the above or can offer me advice then feel free!! :0> Regards Morag P.S What is the difference in Ireland between a Farmer and a Labourer? I know the difference historically in England, but am quite unsure about Irish genealogy and still finding my feet.

1 and 30 puts it just by Stranocum, according to my reckoning. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Hazelton" <whazelto@midsouth.rr.com> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Bushbank > Tony > > 1.Here is a reference to Bushbank near Balleymoney in 1798: > > http://www.ballymoney.gov.uk/htmlsite/heritage.asp?step=2&id=22&pstring=13,22 > > > 2.Bruce Andrews has created a place index of the modern OS (Northern > Ireland Ordnance Survey) maps for Counties Tyrone > and Londonderry. It includes maps 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 18 & > 19. These maps also consist of some portions of Counties Antrim, > Armagh and Donegal. > > According to his index, Bushbank in county Antrim on Map 5 with XY > coordinates of 1 and 30 > Perhaps someone on the list has access to this map and can point you > to a specific location. > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland/places/placenameindex.html > > Happy Hunting > Bill Hazelton > Memphis > > > >> > residence was written as Bushbank, I cannot find such a place >> > anywhere. >> > Has anyone any ideas what it could be or was. >> > >> > Thanks >> > Tony Matthews >> > Brampton Ontario. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thanks everybody, many minds make problems simple. Tony.

iarrc> Gillian, iarrc> How can I access the web site indicating the names of iarrc> the County Antrim Parish films that are available please? iarrc> Ray.Jones I found them listed on http://www.proni.gov.uk/ You will have to search through their web site to find the listings. I found they were very co-operative, once I had the letter from the Minister, and managed to arrange payment! Some records you don't need permission - it depends on the Church. best wishes, Gillian

I have a reprint of a map from about 1900 and using Tony's information I found the townland of Bushbank a little to the north and east of Stranocum, in the civil parish of Derrykeighan. Jack

Hi Ray I don't know if this is of any help but if you copy and paste this website it will take you to the web site of family search where you can search for films - you may find something there: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=localitydetails&subject=4068&subject_disp=Ireland%2C+Antrim&columns=*,0,0 Regards Dorothy On 9/22/06, irl-antrim-request@rootsweb.com <irl-antrim-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Antrim Presbyterian Parish Records (Ray Jones) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 18:55:45 -0400 > From: "Ray Jones" <nantwich@istar.ca> > Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Antrim Presbyterian Parish Records > To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <001201c6ddd1$136ad670$6217fea9@nantwich> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Gillian, > How can I access the web site indicating the names of the County Antrim Parish films that are available please? > Ray.Jones > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-ANTRIM list administrator, send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-ANTRIM mailing list, send an email to IRL-ANTRIM@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-ANTRIM Digest, Vol 1, Issue 9 > **************************************** >

Tony 1.Here is a reference to Bushbank near Balleymoney in 1798: http://www.ballymoney.gov.uk/htmlsite/heritage.asp?step=2&id=22&pstring=13,22 2.Bruce Andrews has created a place index of the modern OS (Northern Ireland Ordnance Survey) maps for Counties Tyrone and Londonderry. It includes maps 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 18 & 19. These maps also consist of some portions of Counties Antrim, Armagh and Donegal. According to his index, Bushbank in county Antrim on Map 5 with XY coordinates of 1 and 30 Perhaps someone on the list has access to this map and can point you to a specific location. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland/places/placenameindex.html Happy Hunting Bill Hazelton Memphis > > residence was written as Bushbank, I cannot find such a place anywhere. > > Has anyone any ideas what it could be or was. > > > > Thanks > > Tony Matthews > > Brampton Ontario.

Tony, There is a Bushmills in Antrim. It's west of Ballycastle & south of the Giant's Causeway. You can see it at www.multimap.com Search Great Britian &NI, then Bushmills. Hope this helps. Barbara On 9/22/06, Tony Matthews <tmatthews_16@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > On a 1870 marriage entry from Rosebank Presbyterian Church the grooms > residence was written as Bushbank, I cannot find such a place anywhere. > Has anyone any ideas what it could be or was. > > Thanks > Tony Matthews > Brampton Ontario. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On a 1870 marriage entry from Rosebank Presbyterian Church the grooms residence was written as Bushbank, I cannot find such a place anywhere. Has anyone any ideas what it could be or was. Thanks Tony Matthews Brampton Ontario.

Gillian, How can I access the web site indicating the names of the County Antrim Parish films that are available please? Ray.Jones

Thanks Susan. I did send a letter to Lylehill Presbyterian Church and an e-mail to Templepatrick Presbyterian Church and have received no reply to either. That was about a month ago. I was thinking of a follow-up. I do have a lot more information on my Spence family whereas my Johnston family, I only have Co.Antrim written down. I suspect there was a connection between these 2 families before they came to the Ottawa area where Jane Russell Spence married William Robert Johnston, and became my g grandparents. A long time ago, I did try to make contact with the Presbyterian Historical Society as well. Peggy Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Fowler" <susan09131@hotmail.com> To: <IRL-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] [Antrim] MULHOLLANDs in Ireland - location ofheadstone >I contacted the Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland and received a > very nice letter back from the organization's Assistant Secretary, Mr. > Alan > K. McMillan. [If you write to the Rev. Dr. W. D. Bailie of the > organization, he is not answering correspondence as he is in his mid > eighties, so said Mr. McMillan.] > > They have one part time assistant at the society to do the research - and > unless you have specific information to check in the Belfast area > directly, > they will recommend that you contact a private genealogical researcher (as > they did for me). Mr. McMillan thanked me for my donation, but returned > it > as they could not do anything for me and did not feel right keeping it. I > had, however, prepaid the international postage, so other than the time > replying to my letter, I did not cause them to incur any further expense. > > My best of luck to those who contact the Historical Society and hope they > can help you. > > Susan > > >>From: Jay & Jean <jaynjean@mnsi.net> >>Reply-To: IRL-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com >>To: IRL-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [Antrim] MULHOLLANDs in Ireland - location of headstone >>Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:00:12 -0400 >> >>I had good luck several years ago with my Presbyterian Herbison family in >>Cullybackey, Ballymena, thru contacting the Presbyterian Historical >>Society >>by s-mail. . Their web address is http://www.presbyterianireland.org/phsi/ >>their s-mail address is posted there. I found that a donation expedited >>the >>search :-) JayS >> >>p&rgordon wrote: >> >>>I am very interested in this posting. My gg grandparents were married in >>>Templepatrick, the first son was born Umgall, and several of the younger >>>ones were christened in Lylehill. I am presuming that is really Lyles >>>Hill Presbyterian Church as they were presbyterian. Maybe all their >>>records are there prior to emigration to Ontario. Do you have any >>>contact >>>addresses so that I could possibly get verification of all this family. >>>Parents were William Spence born May 1805, Baraba Bailia (now transcribed >>>as Bailey) born Nov 1815 , marriage Mar 27, 1832 Templepatrick, Son >>>William Spence Jr. born Umgall, then Finley, Margaret, Barbara, then the >>>rest I have Lylehill for, and they are Robert Clarke Spence, Hannah, Mary >>>A., Jane Russell (my g grandmother), and Elizabeth Magill (McGill) >>>Spence. >>> If I could get the marriage record, I could verify place of birth, >>>parents etc. as they are supposed to be of Scotch descent but born in >>>Ireland. I can hardly wait for a reply. >>>Thanks so much >>>Peggy >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Mulholland" >>><libearywolf@shaw.ca> >>>To: <IRL-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> >>>Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 8:13 AM >>>Subject: [Antrim] MULHOLLANDs in Ireland - location of headstone >>> >>> >>>> >>>>Further to my posting last week which included the following: >>>>They had 6 children (all six are listed on a large headstone in a very >>>>small >>>>cemetery just north of Belfast (I don't have the name of the place but >>>>could >>>>locate it if it will assist others) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>I was able to locate the location of the cemetery through a cousin. He >>>>sends the following information: >>>> >>>>The cemetry is at Ballyoutoag and I know that they had some sort of >>>>connection with Lyles Hill Presbyterian Church. It is near the Grange >>>>of >>>>Umgall. >>>> >>>> >>>>Also in the cemetery near the headstone is a small stone with William >>>>MULHOLLAND (late of Ballyutoag) 02 Feb 1844. >>>> >>>> >>>>I hope this helps someone out there. >>>> >>>>Cheers, >>>>Rick >>>>Surrey, BC, Canada >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.3/423 - Release Date: >>>>8/18/2006 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 > >

When I wanted the Dervock presbyterian records I had to write to the Minister for a letter giving permission, then sent it to PRONI with the money to get a film of the records (actual photographs of the pages) It may depend on the Church - whether it has allowed LDS to copy them. It should be listed on the PRONI website (from memory) Gillian South Australia

If you want Lylehill Antrim PRONI have the records REF No. MIC/1P/98 - Lylehill Antrim Found this on the PRONI web site - so someone may be able to look up the records for you or you may be able to borrow the records through your own family centre? Regards Pam -----Original Message----- From: irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Susan Fowler Sent: 16 September 2006 19:30 To: IRL-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] [Antrim] MULHOLLANDs in Ireland - location ofheadstone I contacted the Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland and received a very nice letter back from the organization's Assistant Secretary, Mr. Alan K. McMillan. [If you write to the Rev. Dr. W. D. Bailie of the organization, he is not answering correspondence as he is in his mid eighties, so said Mr. McMillan.] They have one part time assistant at the society to do the research - and unless you have specific information to check in the Belfast area directly, they will recommend that you contact a private genealogical researcher (as they did for me). Mr. McMillan thanked me for my donation, but returned it as they could not do anything for me and did not feel right keeping it. I had, however, prepaid the international postage, so other than the time replying to my letter, I did not cause them to incur any further expense. My best of luck to those who contact the Historical Society and hope they can help you. Susan >From: Jay & Jean <jaynjean@mnsi.net> >Reply-To: IRL-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com >To: IRL-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [Antrim] MULHOLLANDs in Ireland - location of headstone >Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:00:12 -0400 > >I had good luck several years ago with my Presbyterian Herbison family in >Cullybackey, Ballymena, thru contacting the Presbyterian Historical Society >by s-mail. . Their web address is http://www.presbyterianireland.org/phsi/ >their s-mail address is posted there. I found that a donation expedited the >search :-) JayS > >p&rgordon wrote: > >>I am very interested in this posting. My gg grandparents were married in >>Templepatrick, the first son was born Umgall, and several of the younger >>ones were christened in Lylehill. I am presuming that is really Lyles >>Hill Presbyterian Church as they were presbyterian. Maybe all their >>records are there prior to emigration to Ontario. Do you have any contact >>addresses so that I could possibly get verification of all this family. >>Parents were William Spence born May 1805, Baraba Bailia (now transcribed >>as Bailey) born Nov 1815 , marriage Mar 27, 1832 Templepatrick, Son >>William Spence Jr. born Umgall, then Finley, Margaret, Barbara, then the >>rest I have Lylehill for, and they are Robert Clarke Spence, Hannah, Mary >>A., Jane Russell (my g grandmother), and Elizabeth Magill (McGill) Spence. >> If I could get the marriage record, I could verify place of birth, >>parents etc. as they are supposed to be of Scotch descent but born in >>Ireland. I can hardly wait for a reply. >>Thanks so much >>Peggy >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Mulholland" <libearywolf@shaw.ca> >>To: <IRL-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 8:13 AM >>Subject: [Antrim] MULHOLLANDs in Ireland - location of headstone >> >> >>> >>>Further to my posting last week which included the following: >>>They had 6 children (all six are listed on a large headstone in a very >>>small >>>cemetery just north of Belfast (I don't have the name of the place but >>>could >>>locate it if it will assist others) >>> >>> >>> >>>I was able to locate the location of the cemetery through a cousin. He >>>sends the following information: >>> >>>The cemetry is at Ballyoutoag and I know that they had some sort of >>>connection with Lyles Hill Presbyterian Church. It is near the Grange of >>>Umgall. >>> >>> >>>Also in the cemetery near the headstone is a small stone with William >>>MULHOLLAND (late of Ballyutoag) 02 Feb 1844. >>> >>> >>>I hope this helps someone out there. >>> >>>Cheers, >>>Rick >>>Surrey, BC, Canada >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.3/423 - Release Date: 8/18/2006 >>> >>> >> >> > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

UNSUBSCRIBE -----Original Message----- From: whazelto@midsouth.rr.com To: irl-antrim@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Ballymena deaths Ray Here are their fees on their web site: 10 Euros. http://www.groireland.ie/fees.htm Happy Hunting Bill Hazelton Memphis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Jones" <nantwich@istar.ca> To: <IRL-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 2:29 PM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Ballymena deaths > 2)What is the approx. cost of death certificates obtained from Roscommon? > Regards, > Ray.Jones,Ontario > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

I contacted the Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland and received a very nice letter back from the organization's Assistant Secretary, Mr. Alan K. McMillan. [If you write to the Rev. Dr. W. D. Bailie of the organization, he is not answering correspondence as he is in his mid eighties, so said Mr. McMillan.] They have one part time assistant at the society to do the research - and unless you have specific information to check in the Belfast area directly, they will recommend that you contact a private genealogical researcher (as they did for me). Mr. McMillan thanked me for my donation, but returned it as they could not do anything for me and did not feel right keeping it. I had, however, prepaid the international postage, so other than the time replying to my letter, I did not cause them to incur any further expense. My best of luck to those who contact the Historical Society and hope they can help you. Susan >From: Jay & Jean <jaynjean@mnsi.net> >Reply-To: IRL-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com >To: IRL-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [Antrim] MULHOLLANDs in Ireland - location of headstone >Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:00:12 -0400 > >I had good luck several years ago with my Presbyterian Herbison family in >Cullybackey, Ballymena, thru contacting the Presbyterian Historical Society >by s-mail. . Their web address is http://www.presbyterianireland.org/phsi/ >their s-mail address is posted there. I found that a donation expedited the >search :-) JayS > >p&rgordon wrote: > >>I am very interested in this posting. My gg grandparents were married in >>Templepatrick, the first son was born Umgall, and several of the younger >>ones were christened in Lylehill. I am presuming that is really Lyles >>Hill Presbyterian Church as they were presbyterian. Maybe all their >>records are there prior to emigration to Ontario. Do you have any contact >>addresses so that I could possibly get verification of all this family. >>Parents were William Spence born May 1805, Baraba Bailia (now transcribed >>as Bailey) born Nov 1815 , marriage Mar 27, 1832 Templepatrick, Son >>William Spence Jr. born Umgall, then Finley, Margaret, Barbara, then the >>rest I have Lylehill for, and they are Robert Clarke Spence, Hannah, Mary >>A., Jane Russell (my g grandmother), and Elizabeth Magill (McGill) Spence. >> If I could get the marriage record, I could verify place of birth, >>parents etc. as they are supposed to be of Scotch descent but born in >>Ireland. I can hardly wait for a reply. >>Thanks so much >>Peggy >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Mulholland" <libearywolf@shaw.ca> >>To: <IRL-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 8:13 AM >>Subject: [Antrim] MULHOLLANDs in Ireland - location of headstone >> >> >>> >>>Further to my posting last week which included the following: >>>They had 6 children (all six are listed on a large headstone in a very >>>small >>>cemetery just north of Belfast (I don't have the name of the place but >>>could >>>locate it if it will assist others) >>> >>> >>> >>>I was able to locate the location of the cemetery through a cousin. He >>>sends the following information: >>> >>>The cemetry is at Ballyoutoag and I know that they had some sort of >>>connection with Lyles Hill Presbyterian Church. It is near the Grange of >>>Umgall. >>> >>> >>>Also in the cemetery near the headstone is a small stone with William >>>MULHOLLAND (late of Ballyutoag) 02 Feb 1844. >>> >>> >>>I hope this helps someone out there. >>> >>>Cheers, >>>Rick >>>Surrey, BC, Canada >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.3/423 - Release Date: 8/18/2006 >>> >>> >> >> > >

Ray I recall seeing in "From Ireland" a CD about the churches in Antrim. No idea what it is like but it may be worth a look at. From Ireland is at http://www.from-ireland.net/index.htm Jennifer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Jones" <nantwich@istar.ca> To: <IRL-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 12:15 AM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Antrim Presbyterian Parish Records >I would appreciate hearing from those on this list who have had experience >with searching Presbyterian Church Records for County Antrim that they have >found at the Latter Day Saints Family History Centre. > Specifically which parishes are available and what period of time do they > cover? > Ray.Jones,Ontario > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I think the problem is in the wording - the USA cannot provide BMD certificates outside there own country and maybe in the USA and Canada three own state? It would like me asking my local UK registry office for my gt gt uncle's death certificate from Toronto. They can, as others have pointed out, copy that part of the film you found the entry on. So I think the request to LDS should be for a copy of that part of the film not the death certificate. Unfortunately some people will take what we say literally, which is the case here methinks? Regards Pam -----Original Message----- From: irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ray Jones Sent: 14 September 2006 20:30 To: IRL-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Ballymena deaths Approx. 3 weeks ago I visited my local LDS Family History Centre and located 2 Ballymena deaths of interest in the Ireland films for 1876 and 1881. I requested copies of the death certificates from LDS in Utah and was advised today that they do not have the death records for these years. They have directed me to the Republic of Ireland Civil Registration Office in Roscommon. My questions are: 1) Has anyone had a similar experience in requesting certificates from Utah for which the years are not available? and 2)What is the approx. cost of death certificates obtained from Roscommon? Regards, Ray.Jones,Ontario ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To John . . . who so kindly offered to help search Presbyterian Church records . . . May I ask to please be included in your favor to help search: I am hunting my Blair ancestors in the area (Blare, Blaire, Blayr, Blaer). The names of John, Adam, William, James, Robert and Thomas could belong to me.They were Antrim Presbyterians and I know Adam to have been a merchant in Ballymoney in the mid-1700s . . . his son Adam was a Presbyterian minister in the area as well. Adam's father I believe to have been John who likely was in the Ahoghill, Ballymena area late 1600s. May I do you a favor in the Midwest of USA? Thank you for any help. Betty Blair McCollom

The LDS have only copied the Irish Deaths and Marriages up until 1870. Births are different and later years have been copied. If you search the Library Catalogue on the LDS site http://www.familysearch.org/ you will be able to see what years have been filmed for Irish BDM's. The LDS can only photocopy from the films they have. Regards Alma ----- Original Message ----- From: "RJ Kane" <rjkane@paradise.net.nz> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 6:21 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Ballymena deaths > Well, in that case I'm at a loss to know what the problem can have > been - in my experience the Family History Centre staff have asked me > to fill in a copy request, I've done so, paid the (dollar or two) fee > and picked up the copy in a week or so. > > I'd be inclined to say that either you were dealing with inexperienced > staff who misunderstood your request or they have changed to a policy > of 'no copying'. > Bob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ray Jones" <nantwich@istar.ca> > To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 8:01 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Ballymena deaths > > >> Bob, >> You are correct. I requested a copy of the microfilm page. Have you >> had any >> experience with LDS on this subject? >> Ray >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "RJ Kane" <rjkane@paradise.net.nz> >> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 3:39 PM >> Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Ballymena deaths > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 14/09/2006 > >