Re name search query from Hilary I know therewas a family of 6 Gourlay sisters in NAPIER up to the mid 1980's.The eldest daughter would have been born about 1937 and their story goes that their ggfather was a seaman and met a Maori Princess in the Upper part of the South Island and from memory his name was Robert GOURLAY but I though he was a Scot? Elaine

A little while ago I asked for help in relation to a document that is in my husband's family. You may remember reading about it - The document was for the taking of affidavits etc in relation to the Province of Ontario, Canada. It would appear that this family member may have been what we would term as being an immigration officer - he was probably one of many people who were given the powers to interview those wanting to move to Canada. Lynette

Dear Ros, I am so pleased you made contact. I would love some more information on the other children. I just received a copy of the marriage certificate today of Thomas and Jane and have copies of the births of the children born in Scotland. Where exactly do you fit in. Perhaps I can give you a ring if you are happy to give me your phone number. Is during the day Ok or would you prefer night. best wishes from dale ----- Original Message ----- From: "B & R" <bjsrose@picknowl.com.au> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] McKillop/Marcus/Montgomery > Hi Dale, > I am also researching the same family as you. I am a descendant from the > MARCUS line. From notes I have your Thomas & Jane MARCUS, are buried in > the Old Church Burying Ground, Glenarm, County Antrim, Ireland. There > is > no visible headstone - but the inscription as below, is on a flower-plinth > holder. > "Marcus" > In loving memory of THOMAS and JANE MARCUS. > I do have other info on the children, which I can enlighten you on. > Regards. > Ros (nee MARCUS) in Adelaide, South Australia. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dale Liepins" <dliepins@optusnet.com.au> > To: <IRL-ANTRIM@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, 17 January 2007 8:25 > Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] McKillop/Marcus/Montgomery > > >> Dear List, >> >> I am new to this list and would like to post my interest in McKillop, > Marcus and Montgomery from around Glenarm, County Antrim. >> >> Jane McKillop married Thomas Marcus 6Aug1889 County Antrim Northern > Ireland. >> >> They had the following children. >> >> Maggie >> Agnes Jane (Nancy) >> David >> Joe >> Elizabeth (married James Montgomery) >> Robert >> John >> Sally (Sarah) >> >> Some children were born in NI and some in Scotland. My grandmother was > Elizabeth Marcus and she married James Montgomery. They lived in Glenarm > NI > and came to Australia in 1925. >> >> Maggie told me when I met her many years ago that Jane McKillop had two > sisters, Sarah and Susan who went to America. >> >> I would love to hear from anyone with a similar interest. I would also > like to ask if the headstones in Glenarm cemetery have been transcribed > and > if these transcriptions are available to view or purchase. >> >> kind regards, >> >> Dale >> Canberra ACT >> Australia >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Dale, I am also researching the same family as you. I am a descendant from the MARCUS line. From notes I have your Thomas & Jane MARCUS, are buried in the Old Church Burying Ground, Glenarm, County Antrim, Ireland. There is no visible headstone - but the inscription as below, is on a flower-plinth holder. "Marcus" In loving memory of THOMAS and JANE MARCUS. I do have other info on the children, which I can enlighten you on. Regards. Ros (nee MARCUS) in Adelaide, South Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Liepins" <dliepins@optusnet.com.au> To: <IRL-ANTRIM@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, 17 January 2007 8:25 Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] McKillop/Marcus/Montgomery > Dear List, > > I am new to this list and would like to post my interest in McKillop, Marcus and Montgomery from around Glenarm, County Antrim. > > Jane McKillop married Thomas Marcus 6Aug1889 County Antrim Northern Ireland. > > They had the following children. > > Maggie > Agnes Jane (Nancy) > David > Joe > Elizabeth (married James Montgomery) > Robert > John > Sally (Sarah) > > Some children were born in NI and some in Scotland. My grandmother was Elizabeth Marcus and she married James Montgomery. They lived in Glenarm NI and came to Australia in 1925. > > Maggie told me when I met her many years ago that Jane McKillop had two sisters, Sarah and Susan who went to America. > > I would love to hear from anyone with a similar interest. I would also like to ask if the headstones in Glenarm cemetery have been transcribed and if these transcriptions are available to view or purchase. > > kind regards, > > Dale > Canberra ACT > Australia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is the first time I've actually seen a site where the coin is actually recognized!! Thank you very much. I didn't see the URL when I first read thru your response--in re-reading many this evening, I check out the referenced site finally. Thanks so much Nevin!! Jeanne ----- Original Message ----- From: <TaggartN@aol.com> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 1:29 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] 1733 Medallion Mystery - HELP! Little, Lyttle,Lytle > Medallion link: > > _http://www.numismatics.org/cgi-bin/showobj?accnum=0000.999.1814_ > (http://www.numismatics.org/cgi-bin/showobj?accnum=0000.999.1814) > > Inscription appears to include Erin Irving November HMM or KMM 1807 > > The rest is less clear. James? 29? Sgd - abbreviation for signed > > Regards > Nevin > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello list, I've subscribed off and on to this mail list as I've come across new information regarding my mother's family in Northern Ireland. I'm hoping that someone could help me with a huge brick wall. My gr-grandmother, Elizabeth Campbell, came from Randalstown. She was born abt. 1873, and the family always believed she was born and raised there. She married my gr-grandfather, Peter Sargeant (seen also as Sargent), at St. MacNissi on 19 April 1900. The parish secretary there has been so very helpful to me. Unfortunately, when I sent away for the civil marriage certificate, none was found. Does anyone have an explanation how this could be? Should I try writing again? My brick wall is that I do not know her parents' names. I was wanting to learn her father's name from the marriage certificate. In the meantime, I was hoping an alternate route would be to find her unmarried sisters on the 1901 Census. Does anyone have access to the 1901 Census for Randalstown? Since Elizabeth married in Randalstown, it's likely her siblings were there as well, living with their parents. Elizabeth's sisters were Margaret "Maggie, Matilda "Tillie", and Sarah Campbell. Elizabeth and Peter Sargeant appear on the 1901 Census in building return 6 for the electoral division of Sharvogues, townland of Magheralane. My family is Roman Catholic, and despite the belief that Elizabeth was from Randalstown, the baptisms of herself and her sisters did not take place at St. MacNissi. Was there another Roman Catholic church which may have been used by those who lived outside Randalstown? My Sargeant family left Randalstown for Ballymena about 1910, just prior to the birth of my grandfather, Joseph Francis Surgenor. The surname was changed from Sargeant to Surgenor with that move. Don't know why. These are births of the children of Peter and Elizabeth, spellings exactly as they appeared on the civil birth records: Elizabeth "Lizzie" Sargeant b: 22 Jul 1900 in Magheralane, Randalstown, Co. Antrim Peter Sargeant b: 20 Nov 1901 in Drummaul, Randalstown, Co. Antrim Thomas "Tom" Sargeant b: 03 Jun 1903 in Magheralane, Randalstown, Co. Antrim Grace Sergeant b: 15 Jan 1905 in Carrycowan, Clough, Co. Antrim John Sergant b: 26 Nov 1906 in Ballylumin, Ahoghill, Co. Antrim James "Jimmy (a.k.a. Chip)" Sergeant b: 13 Sep 1908 in Ballylumin, Ahoghill, Co. Antrim Joseph "Joe" Surgenor b: 17 Jul 1910 in Clonavon, Ballymena, Co. Antrim Hannah Surgenor b: 23 Nov 1912 in Ballymena, Co. Antrim, NI The baptisms of the children born in Randalstown took place at St. MacNissi. The baptisms of the children born in Ballymena took place at All Saints. And I have not been able to locate the baptisms of the children born in Clough and Ahoghill. I'm guessing wherever they were baptized is likely where Elizabeth was also baptized. Anyone have an idea as to which Catholic church that may be? As always, any help is much appreciated. Lisa Hopp in rainy Seattle

Oops....looking again at what I sent, I see I omitted the Latin for REG: regnator (king/ruler) or regnum (kingdom/monarchy); and with that added in, I'm going to change the "Princess", too (didn't like using an English word within the Latin!) Here're some choices for PR: <http://archives.nd.edu/latgramm.htm> For the coin itself: praemium -i n. [that which is taken first , the pick; a gift, award, reward, recompense]; poet. [notable exploit]. praenuntius -a -um [foretelling]; as subst. [a harbinger , token, omen]. praeopto -are [to choose before , to prefer]. promitto -mittere -misi -missum [to let go forward , send forth; to let grow; to promise, undertake]. Hence partic. promissus -a -um, [let grow, long, hanging down]. N. of partic. as subst. promissum -i, [a promise]. propono -ponere -posui -positum [to put on view , expose, display; to publish, relate, tell; to propose, promise, offer as a reward or hold over as a threat; to imagine, put before the mind; to propose to oneself, purpose, intend]. N. of partic. as subst. propositum -i, [a design, purpose; the subject or theme of a discourse; the first premise of a syllogism]. As the last adjective indicating the groom (or with a feminine ending indicating the bride?): procer -eris m. [a chief noble , prince]. proconsul -sulis m. (also pro consule) , [a proconsul, one who serves as a consul, in command of any army, or as governor of a province]. And for MAG: magnus -a -um compar. maior , maius; superl. maximus (maxumus) -a -um; [great, large]; of sound, [loud]; of price or value, [high]; magno, and magni, [at a high price, dear, highly]. Transf., of time, [long, old]; of standing, [great, mighty, powerful, important]; m. pl. of compar. as subst., maiores, [ancestors]; 'in maius', [to a higher degree]; magno opere, see magnopere; for maxime, see magis. And BRIT: Britanni -orum m. pl. [the Britons]; Britannia -ae , f. [Britain]; adj. Britannicus -a -um, [British]; m. sing. as [a title commemorating success in Britain]. So: WILH-elm CAR-l HENR-ich FRIS-o AR-? (Orange?) & NASS-au PR-ocer [and] ANNA REG-nator MAG-num BRIT-anni FIL-ia PRIMOGEN (the king of Gr Br's 1st born daughter) Perhaps my personal deciphering experience with genealogical German records helped lead me to my conclusions. When I saw the initial "Erin" my first two thoughts were "Island of Ireland" and "Erinnerung" (German for remembrance). Re: if this is what it truly is, there is no problem with the evidently misspelled German word: in 1807 there were few dictionaries in the world, and less requirement to spell words correctly. I hope, too, that you noted the "possibly" included with my decipher. The several letters beyond Erin... were very difficult, IF it is Erinnerung: I only stumbled on that because of my German gen experience. HOWEVER, I really like the possibility, and love the idea of EITHER the groom, or the bride!, in 1807 giving a betrothal gift of this even then family heirloom (?) already 3/4 of a century old! Speaking of which, you said the date on the coin was 1733. According to Wikipedia, the marriage took place in 1734, which lends credence to it being a betrothal gift! And that gives me one further correction. The 1807 may also indicate a betrothal with the wedding coming later, so expand your search of a marriage by a year or several. (Course it could also have been a wedding gift by that point as opposed to the original 1733 purpose.) One caveat, though....it's always possible someone in your family purchased/was given the medallion sometime between 1807 and the earliest possessor of whom you know; which would mean there is NO family connection other than being owners of a valuable artifact. Wow! But what a family heirloom! That's one for Antiques Roadshow! AND you really should get it appraised and insured, if it isn't already, and consider security, now that its existence has been shown in cyberspace. Ahhhh, perhaps I'm just paranoid..... But I do agree with someone else's suggestion, that a good jeweler or perhaps a well-known numismatist would have the equipment to do a better job of reading the writing. Thanks for a fun puzzle. Cari > From: norsky@ttc-cmc.net > Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 08:15:51 -0700 (MST) > To: "Carolyn \"Cari\" Thomas" <western37@cox.net> > Subject: Re: Medallion.....as per my eyes..... > > Wow..........this is an entirely different interpretation of anyone > else--and very worth consideration. I am at work, but will take another > look tonight. VERY INTERESTING! Esp. the part about a betrothal gift. > Thanks so very much!!! > > Jeanne

>Re: JOHN LITTLE, LYTTLE, LYTLE (b. 1822, Alfred, Upper Canada) >I need list members' help in reading some wording on a silver medalliondated 1733 that has been in my Little/Lyttle/Lytle family for a long, longtime. Good Eyes Required :) >There are some words etched on the coin (other than it's own minted wording)that I cannot read. I think this may be partly due to the fact that thenames/places are not familiar to me. I am hoping someone will be able togive me some direction re. where in Ireland or Scotland my SCOT-IRISHgreat-grandfather's family came from prior to arriving in Prescott (Alfred)and Renfrew (Westmeath and Pembroke) Counties, ONT Canada, in the early1800's. (He then left Canada for the state of Wisconsin in the US about1850'ish.) ================= Hi Jeanne >From my point of view.... 1)) Type Font, from left edge and clock-wise, with asterisk standing in for centered dot: WILH * CAR * HENR * FRIS * AR * & NASS * PR * ANNA * REG * MAG * BRIT * FIL * PRIMOGEN 2)) Type Font, from lower left, counterclockwise to lower right, two lines: SE FUNDIT IN UNUM ANGLIA & IN TANTO DISSOLVIT GAUDIA SPONSO 3)) Type Font, center below busts of man & woman: VESTNER * F? 4)) Cursive, above busts, possibly: Erinerung des den 29 November (in German: Remembrance of 29 November) and perhaps underneath: HMM or HEM or KEM or KMM 1807. ======================================= Possible meanings of above: 1)) Wilhelm Carl Henrich (Heinrich) Friso (aka Wilhelm IVth Prince of Oranien/Orange at Nassau.) Married in 1734: Princess (?) Anna of Mag/Great Britain, Filia Primogen/First born daughter of George II of England. <http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_IV._(Oranien)> 2)) Re: the quotation in center bottom: see: <http://www.let.leidenuniv.nl/Dutch/Latijn/Barlaeus14.html> Approximately 2/5th down page (or do a page search on "tanto") will take you to lines 320-325: "(320) Accepitque pius generum, Rutupinaque circum Moenia praesensere Ducem. se fundit in unum Anglia, & in tanto dissolvit gaudia Sponso. Nam placuit vultus populis, erectaque morum Simplicitas, pulchrisque innata modestia membris," Very incomplete (Latin to English) translation of only #2 words by "InterTran": <http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/result.shtml> "himself utterly upon one Angles , & upon so much lax JOY BETROTHAL GIFT" I think Anglia (England? as in "Anglo") has been mistranslated as "Angles"; although early people of what is now England may have been called Angles, too. 3)) I see with a google search that "Vestner" is a German family name. Perhaps this is the person who created the medallion? 4)) Erinerung des den 29 November (in German: Remembrance of 29 November) and perhaps underneath: HMM or HEM or KEM or KMM 1807. Hey! How about this: I'd look for a groom with those initials giving this betrothal medallion to his bride on 29 November 1807!?! Good luck! Cari Thomas

Jeanne Why don't you take it to a museum and ask them. They must be used to looking at old things and our museum will take a look at things for you. Otherwise a jeweller may be able to read it, they have special glasses to read little stuff. Jennifer

Wonderful hint--esp. re. the "signed" part. Thank you so very much for taking the time to look at it for me. I am getting lots of help and wonderful suggestions. Jeanne :) Medallion link: > > _http://www.numismatics.org/cgi-bin/showobj?accnum=0000.999.1814_ > (http://www.numismatics.org/cgi-bin/showobj?accnum=0000.999.1814) > > Inscription appears to include Erin Irving November HMM or KMM 1807 > > The rest is less clear. James? 29? Sgd - abbreviation for signed > > Regards > Nevin > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Medallion link: _http://www.numismatics.org/cgi-bin/showobj?accnum=0000.999.1814_ (http://www.numismatics.org/cgi-bin/showobj?accnum=0000.999.1814) Inscription appears to include Erin Irving November HMM or KMM 1807 The rest is less clear. James? 29? Sgd - abbreviation for signed Regards Nevin

I don't know if it's just my computer or what, but none of your wikipedia links will open for me... Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: <OLeoghain@aol.com> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:00 PM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] 1733 Medallion Mystery - HELP! Little, Lyttle,Lytle -from Wikipedia > "Born a member of the <A > HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Orange-Nassau">House of > Orange-Nassau</A>, William III won the English, > Scottish and Irish Crowns following the <A > HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glorious_Revolution">Glorious > Revolution</A>, during which his > uncle and father-in-law, <A > HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_II_of_England">James II</A>, was > deposed. In <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England">England</A>, <A > HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland">Scotland</A> and <A > HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland">Ireland</A> > , William ruled jointly with his wife, <A > HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_II_of_England">Mary II</A>, until > her death on <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_28">28 > December</A> > <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1694">1694</A>. He reigned as > 'William II' in Scotland, but 'William III' in all his > other realms. Among <A > HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unionism_%28Ireland%29">Unionists</A> > in <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ireland">Northern > Ireland</A>, he is also informally known > as King Billy" > > It should be fairly obvious why the Lyttles had the medalion. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Norton anti-virus when I clicked on your cousin's website

"Born a member of the <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Orange-Nassau">House of Orange-Nassau</A>, William III won the English, Scottish and Irish Crowns following the <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glorious_Revolution">Glorious Revolution</A>, during which his uncle and father-in-law, <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_II_of_England">James II</A>, was deposed. In <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England">England</A>, <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland">Scotland</A> and <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland">Ireland</A> , William ruled jointly with his wife, <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_II_of_England">Mary II</A>, until her death on <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_28">28 December</A> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1694">1694</A>. He reigned as 'William II' in Scotland, but 'William III' in all his other realms. Among <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unionism_%28Ireland%29">Unionists</A> in <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ireland">Northern Ireland</A>, he is also informally known as King Billy" It should be fairly obvious why the Lyttles had the medalion.

Dear List, I am new to this list and would like to post my interest in McKillop, Marcus and Montgomery from around Glenarm, County Antrim. Jane McKillop married Thomas Marcus 6Aug1889 County Antrim Northern Ireland. They had the following children. Maggie Agnes Jane (Nancy) David Joe Elizabeth (married James Montgomery) Robert John Sally (Sarah) Some children were born in NI and some in Scotland. My grandmother was Elizabeth Marcus and she married James Montgomery. They lived in Glenarm NI and came to Australia in 1925. Maggie told me when I met her many years ago that Jane McKillop had two sisters, Sarah and Susan who went to America. I would love to hear from anyone with a similar interest. I would also like to ask if the headstones in Glenarm cemetery have been transcribed and if these transcriptions are available to view or purchase. kind regards, Dale Canberra ACT Australia

I think this is the marriage commemorated on the coin. I had researched it several years ago and just found it. What do you think? I think perhaps what you sent from Wikepedia was an earlier family? Thank you for the information. Willem IV of Orange-Nassau (1711-1751), to the right, Prince of Nassau-Dietz and Orange 1711, stadholder of Frisia 1711, Groningen 1718, Drenthe and Guelders 1722, Zealand, Holland, Utrecht and Overijssel 1747, stadholder of The Netherlands 1748, married 1734 Anna of Great-Britain and Hannover (1709-1759), the Princess Royal. Two daughters were still-born. Other children... Jeanne ----- Original Message ----- From: <OLeoghain@aol.com> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 7:00 PM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] 1733 Medallion Mystery - HELP! Little, Lyttle,Lytle -from Wikipedia > "Born a member of the <A > HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Orange-Nassau">House of > Orange-Nassau</A>, William III won the English, > Scottish and Irish Crowns following the <A > HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glorious_Revolution">Glorious > Revolution</A>, during which his > uncle and father-in-law, <A > HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_II_of_England">James II</A>, was > deposed. In <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England">England</A>, <A > HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland">Scotland</A> and <A > HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland">Ireland</A> > , William ruled jointly with his wife, <A > HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_II_of_England">Mary II</A>, until > her death on <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_28">28 > December</A> > <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1694">1694</A>. He reigned as > 'William II' in Scotland, but 'William III' in all his > other realms. Among <A > HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unionism_%28Ireland%29">Unionists</A> > in <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ireland">Northern > Ireland</A>, he is also informally known > as King Billy" > > It should be fairly obvious why the Lyttles had the medalion. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I just had a note from her that said she was doing some website work tonight......that may be why you couldn't access it. Sorry. She should be done soon. I've got good virus protection and nothing popped up just now when I went to it. Let me know how it turned out if you try again, please. Jeanne ----- Original Message ----- From: <OLeoghain@aol.com> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 7:03 PM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] 1733 Medallion Mystery - HELP! Little, Lyttle,Lytle - I got a warning from > Norton anti-virus when I clicked on your cousin's website > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Crazy? I don't think so!!!!!! Quite a few have said Erin and James......so you have good company :) :) Thanks so much. Jeanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Shier Klintworth" <ashierk@yahoo.com> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] 1733 Medallion Mystery - HELP! Little, Lyttle,Lytle > It would appear to me that it says Erin Irving and James H______ not sure > what the last name is. HMM 1807. > > Maybe I am crazy. :) > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Norsky > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:07 AM > To: IRL-ANTRIM@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] 1733 Medallion Mystery - HELP! Little, Lyttle, Lytle > > Re: JOHN LITTLE, LYTTLE, LYTLE (b. 1822, Alfred, Upper Canada) > > I need list members' help in reading some wording on a silver medallion > dated 1733 that has been in my Little/Lyttle/Lytle family for a long, long > time. Good Eyes Required :) > > There are some words etched on the coin (other than it's own minted > wording) > that I cannot read. I think this may be partly due to the fact that the > names/places are not familiar to me. I am hoping someone will be able to > give me some direction re. where in Ireland or Scotland my SCOT-IRISH > great-grandfather's family came from prior to arriving in Prescott > (Alfred) > and Renfrew (Westmeath and Pembroke) Counties, ONT Canada, in the early > 1800's. (He then left Canada for the state of Wisconsin in the US about > 1850'ish.) > > The URL below will take you to the website of a cousin who has consented > to > let me use her website for this rather large file. > > http://users.ecenet.com/wdcopper/medallion.html - "The Medallion Mystery" > (Click on the image on this page and wait a bit. A larger and fairly > clear > picture of the coin will appear.) It is not a perfect image--neither is > the > original. > > I would appreciate anyone's help in reading the words etched on this > silver > medallion--and any historical perspective as well, if you have it. > > Many thanks to anyone who can help. > > Jeanne > norsky@mtintouch.net > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Great! I am at work presently, but I'll get to it this evening. I am not a picture wizard unfortunately :) Jeanne Jeanne, > > If no one has been able to decipher the inscription for you, if you'll > send > me the picture of the medal as an attachment I'll take a look at it in > Photoshop where I can enlarge it and perhaps find out what it says. > > Cliff. Johnston > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see;" > from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Norsky" <norsky@mtintouch.net> > To: <IRL-ANTRIM@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:07 AM > Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] 1733 Medallion Mystery - HELP! Little, Lyttle, Lytle > > >> Re: JOHN LITTLE, LYTTLE, LYTLE (b. 1822, Alfred, Upper Canada) >> >> I need list members' help in reading some wording on a silver medallion >> dated 1733 that has been in my Little/Lyttle/Lytle family for a long, >> long >> time. Good Eyes Required :) >> >> There are some words etched on the coin (other than it's own minted >> wording) that I cannot read. I think this may be partly due to the fact >> that the names/places are not familiar to me. I am hoping someone will >> be >> able to give me some direction re. where in Ireland or Scotland my >> SCOT-IRISH great-grandfather's family came from prior to arriving in >> Prescott (Alfred) and Renfrew (Westmeath and Pembroke) Counties, ONT >> Canada, in the early 1800's. (He then left Canada for the state of >> Wisconsin in the US about 1850'ish.) >> >> The URL below will take you to the website of a cousin who has consented >> to let me use her website for this rather large file. >> >> http://users.ecenet.com/wdcopper/medallion.html - "The Medallion >> Mystery" >> (Click on the image on this page and wait a bit. A larger and fairly >> clear picture of the coin will appear.) It is not a perfect >> image--neither is the original. >> >> I would appreciate anyone's help in reading the words etched on this >> silver medallion--and any historical perspective as well, if you have >> it. >> >> Many thanks to anyone who can help. >> >> Jeanne >> norsky@mtintouch.net >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jeanne, If no one has been able to decipher the inscription for you, if you'll send me the picture of the medal as an attachment I'll take a look at it in Photoshop where I can enlarge it and perhaps find out what it says. Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norsky" <norsky@mtintouch.net> To: <IRL-ANTRIM@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:07 AM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] 1733 Medallion Mystery - HELP! Little, Lyttle, Lytle > Re: JOHN LITTLE, LYTTLE, LYTLE (b. 1822, Alfred, Upper Canada) > > I need list members' help in reading some wording on a silver medallion > dated 1733 that has been in my Little/Lyttle/Lytle family for a long, long > time. Good Eyes Required :) > > There are some words etched on the coin (other than it's own minted > wording) that I cannot read. I think this may be partly due to the fact > that the names/places are not familiar to me. I am hoping someone will be > able to give me some direction re. where in Ireland or Scotland my > SCOT-IRISH great-grandfather's family came from prior to arriving in > Prescott (Alfred) and Renfrew (Westmeath and Pembroke) Counties, ONT > Canada, in the early 1800's. (He then left Canada for the state of > Wisconsin in the US about 1850'ish.) > > The URL below will take you to the website of a cousin who has consented > to let me use her website for this rather large file. > > http://users.ecenet.com/wdcopper/medallion.html - "The Medallion Mystery" > (Click on the image on this page and wait a bit. A larger and fairly > clear picture of the coin will appear.) It is not a perfect > image--neither is the original. > > I would appreciate anyone's help in reading the words etched on this > silver medallion--and any historical perspective as well, if you have it. > > Many thanks to anyone who can help. > > Jeanne > norsky@mtintouch.net > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message