Could someone please have a look up in the Census for Antrim 1659 and see if there are any Blairs listed. would appreciate having any info available there. thanks Betty Blair McCollom

Does anyone know if booklets are available about burials in the various cemeteries in and around Ballymoney? These are available for Ballymena . . . searches for my Blair ancestors 1650-1800 burial sites have been unsuccessful. If anyone has Blair history for area, I would be most grateful. Betty Blair McCollom

Fairfoot is very unusual. I see _www.familysearch.org_ (http://www.familysearch.org) has a Fairfoot in Belfast. Cain is a very common name; it is now mostly spelt Kane. Nevin

Is there anyone out there with the Cain and Fairfoot surnames from Ireland to Whitehaven early 1800's. Thanks, Tom

Thank you! It was Purdysburn. I typed it into a few searches and it led me to the South & East Belfast Trust. I have requested records. I'm not sure I will be able to obtain them...even though she has been dead for 50 years. has anyone had any luck getting old medical records or is this topic still too taboo? Eireann On 1/28/07, irl-antrim-request@rootsweb.com <irl-antrim-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > Most likely it is Purdysburn hospital, it had been a psychiatric hospital > as > well as a fever hospital in the past, it is in the south Belfast > Saintfield > road area I believe. > Yvonne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ulster3" <ulster3@gmail.com> > To: <IRL-ANTRIM@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 9:51 PM > Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Help! Belfast Hospitals - 1950s > > > >I am trying to locate a hospital where my great-grandmother died. The > death > > certificate lists the hospital in Belfast but I cannot make out the name > > of > > it - the handwriting is too cryptic. She died in 1957. > > > > It looks like it could be: Lundysbum or Lundysburn - something with > "burn" > > as a suffix. > > > > I cannot come up with any combination that comes in in Google searches. > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions? Have any of the hosptials changed > their > > names since the 1957? How would I determine what hospital this was? > > > > HELP! Thanks > > > > Eireann > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >

Hi Lisa I tried replying directly to your last e-mail but your provider is bouncing my messages as spam. All the best with the parish, I'll be very interested in hearing if you get a response. I have dropped a note to PRONI, apparently they used to copy records for a fee and so we may have some luck that way. Kind Regards Murray

Hi Gordon, Sorry for my ignorance what is the Ulster Covenant for ?(is there anywhere I can read it?) where you made to sign it? What where the consequences for not signing it. Any information or reading materials would be greatly appreciated. Sharon -----Original Message----- From: irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gordon crooks Sent: 29 January 2007 12:52 To: irl-antrim@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The "Wee Three" Cliff: It was the year 1911, I have a copy copy of it and can send it to you if you want. Gordon Crooks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff. Johnston" <moments-in-time@houston.rr.com> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The "Wee Three" > Pam, > > Thanks. What year is the Ulster Covenant for? > > Cliff. Johnston > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see;" > from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pam Craven" <pamcraven@mynow.co.uk> > To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 6:34 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The > "Wee > Three" > > >> Cliff >> >> Have you tried this site for N Ireland >> >> http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ >> >> It is free to join you can even look at messages but not post a message >> or >> reply unless you join. It is lots of general and useful info linked to >> it >> also. So a message to the County Antrim list may help or admin may tell >> you >> how to post a message to all of the subsidiary lists. >> >> >> I looked at the Ulster Covenant to see where Johnstons may be and there >> were >> over 5000 for Johnston and 188 for Johnstone! So searched for Archibald >> in >> case it was a family name and came up with these? >> >> Surname, forename, address, parliamentary division, district, place of >> signing, agent. >> >> Johnston, Archibald, Lisanymore, Cavan: East, Bailieborough, Billis, >> Wallace, W : Reverend >> Johnston, Archibald, 58 Argyle Street, Belfast: West, Shankill, Albert >> Hall, >> Shannon, William >> >> Not sure if any of this is any use? >> >> Pam >> -----Original Message----- >> From: irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cliff. Johnston >> Sent: 28 January 2007 15:43 >> To: irl-antrim@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The >> "Wee >> Three" >> >> Pam, >> >> There are several considerations in looking for a will in Ireland. >> >> First, the oral family history that I have about the sailor visiting my >> ggrandfather came from his neice who was a girl at the time and visiting >> her >> >> uncle, my ggrandfather. She answered the door and overheard parts of the >> conversation. She didn't know what happened after as my ggrandfather was >> away visiting kin at the time. So I don't know if it was our family, or >> if >> the sailor returned or went to find my ggrandfather. It is somewhat >> coincidental and curiosity-raising though that James moved to a >> significantly better farm shortly thereafter. In addtion when 2 of my >> Dad's >> >> aunts visited Ireland in the 1920's they found all of our kin deceased - >> no >> one now knows where though - very frustrating. >> >> Secondly, we don't know what the name of the deceased family member in >> Ireland was or where he lived. >> >> Cliff. Johnston >> "May the best you've ever seen, >> Be the worst you'll ever see;" >> from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pam Craven" <pamcraven@mynow.co.uk> >> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:34 AM >> Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The >> "Wee >> Three" >> >> >>> If someone came looking via a solicitor then I assume there was maybe a >>> will. Worth checking to see if any Will exists via Belfast ro Dublin >>> ecord >>> office I assume? >>> >>> Pam >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd >>> Sent: 28 January 2007 00:40 >>> To: irl-antrim@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The >>> "Wee >>> Three" >>> >>> Cliff >>> What other Canadian information have your found on the three brothers in >>> Canada? - Death certificatees, Census entries, newspaper reports of >>> their >>> deaths, etc. Even on reports of the 50th or 100th aniversiary of the >>> County >>> >>> may have something on where the family came from in Ireland. >>> >>> You did not say what religion they were? Check the local County history >>> to >>> see if any other famileis or Minister's came in this period. This MAY >>> give >>> you the general background to see where your family came from. So if >>> the >>> county history says that people from Belfast, Ballymoney, etc came in >>> certain years, those towns regions maybe an starting point. >>> >>> Mike Boyd >>> Brisbane >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Cliff. Johnston" <moments-in-time@houston.rr.com> >>> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:25 AM >>> Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The "Wee >>> Three" >>> >>> >>>> We have no locations in Ireland for any of the Wee Three; however, >>>> various sources of oral family history have them coming from all over >>>> the >>>> island - Ballymena, Londonderry, Tarra, Co. Donegal and Co. Cork being >>>> mentioned. To make matters even more frustrating is that in the 1920's >>>> 2 >>>> of my Dad's aunts visited Ireland, found all of our Johnston kin buried >>>> (none surviving), made a journal containing their burial details, and >>>> now >>>> no one knows what happened to the journal or where the 2 sisters >>>> visited. >>>> >>>> Ca. 1905-1910 a sailor came to my ggrandfather's farm searching for a >>>> Johnston. He had been hired by a solicitor in Ireland. The last of >>>> our >>>> Johnstons had died leaving no surviving kin in Ireland and a small >>>> estate. >>> >>>> He may have been a pub owner. My grandfather moved about this time to >>>> a >>>> better farm in Clarence Twp., Russell Co., Ontario, Canada, on what is >>>> now >>> >>>> Johnston Road. >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I am hoping someone can help me, I am looking for Peter Jackson b c1864 ? Sarah Jackson b 21.4.1868 ? William Jackson b ? Joseph/John Jackson b 30.1.1895 Ballynagorough, Killiad, Crumlin, Co, Antrim Peter Jackson b 17.6.1897 Rickamore, Templepatrick, Co, Antrim Cissie Jackson ? (possibly deceased) Arthur Jackson, Templepatrick Samuel Jackson, Templepatrick This is all the information I have, I believe Peter and Sarah nee smyth married in Templepatrick I am from Perth Western Australia and unfortunately have no access to the 1901 census, also if you could tell me where I may find the marriage entry? thanks heaps Lorraine Clarke from a VERY hot Perth Western Australia

Your email link does not appear to work. Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: <Major0009@aol.com> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The "Wee Three" > Would anyone searching the Johnston family have any connections to a Maria > Johnston who was married to Samuel Johnston. Maria parents were Alexander > and > Margaret Johnston. To my knowledge the lived in the Belfast area all their > lives and had seven children. > > If so please contact me > > _Major0009@aol.com_ (mailto:Major0009@aol.com) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Would anyone searching the Johnston family have any connections to a Maria Johnston who was married to Samuel Johnston. Maria parents were Alexander and Margaret Johnston. To my knowledge the lived in the Belfast area all their lives and had seven children. If so please contact me _Major0009@aol.com_ (mailto:Major0009@aol.com)

Yes! I did think it was a little odd :-D Kind Regards Murray Lynn Christchurch New Zealand Web Site <http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/mlynn/> TaggartN@aol.com wrote: > Murray, > > My response was just directed at Janet's query. > > Have you got ruddy cheeks? ;) > > _http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/flynn/origins.htm_ > (http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/flynn/origins.htm) > > _http://www.magoo.com/hugh/dalaraide.html_ > (http://www.magoo.com/hugh/dalaraide.html) > > _http://www.magoo.com/hugh/annals.html_ > (http://www.magoo.com/hugh/annals.html) > > Regards > Nevin > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Are we talking ships? Was there one called 'Earl of Dunluce" Sorry, missed the thread. Liv ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Boyd To: irl-antrim@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:11 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Ship Earl of Donnegal form belfast 1768 toHamptonRoads Vir... Nevin Thank you for these websites. As you will have already seem, I have passed it on to the BOYD@rootsweb.com Net group. Along with the message that there were two William Boyd 's on two of the ships. The Earl of Dunluce also rings a bell, but when I searched under that name I could not find the right family. I will search again after dinner and see what I might be able to find. Mike Boyd ----- Original Message ----- From: <TaggartN@aol.com> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Ship Earl of Donnegal form belfast 1768 to HamptonRoads Vir... > "These are the families who came on the five ships with the Rev. William > Martin. They emigrated from Ulster to South Carolina in 1772." > > _http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~merle/Rm/index.htm_ > (http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~merle/Rm/index.htm) > > You can enter 'earl of donegall' in the ship's name box in this Belfast > Newsletter Index > > _http://www.ucs.louisiana.edu/cgi-bin/belfst/QueryForm1.cgi_ > (http://www.ucs.louisiana.edu/cgi-bin/belfst/QueryForm1.cgi) > > Ships to Charleston: > > _http://www.electricscotland.com/familytree/magazine/augsep2002/ulster_roots.h > tm_ (http://www.electricscotland.com/familytree/magazine/augsep20 > 02/ulster_roots.htm) > > Regards > Nevin > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.12/655 - Release Date: 28/01/07

Cliff On another Irish Net group, I saw where an researcher took all the surnames he was looking from Tithe Lists (for Ulster I think it said he did), but if you start with County Antrim, then you may find some of your brothers listed or be able to use the group to remove others. Thus giving you an "area" to work on in Ireland. That would be far better than going through Papers to try to find burial records. Then do another County, if you have not found them in Antrim. Oh is there an Johnston Net group? And would it be worht joining as well. Especially if you try to use the Tithe List method of research. Would it be worth writing to the Presbyterian Church at Ballymoney - I assume that there is more than one through - to see if they have any records on these three brothers? Hopefully, their records are not burnt as well!! Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff. Johnston" <moments-in-time@houston.rr.com> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Red Robin and his land > The Wee Three signed on to buy their farmlands much earlier than the dates > above. Each built a shanty while they cleared the land, built their > houses > and then finally took formal possession of the land. The government did > not > tax shanties - an incentive to get people to live on the land, clear it, > get > established and then build a taxable house. The government was very wise > in > this respect. The Assessment Roll indicates that Francis was on his land > first in 1827, Robert was on his land in 1835, and Archibald was on his > land > in 1842. Oral family history indicates that initially they may have > worked > at a mill in Riceville during the week and gone to their land on the > weekends to clear it. They may also have done some lumber jacking too. > > My ggrandfather James was the one who sold our original homestead and > moved > to Clarence Twp., Russell Co. on Johnston Road. I don't have the lot > details at my fingertips right now. It's still packed from our move. > > I hope that this helps. > > Cliff.

Thanks for the information, but all of my Johnstons in Ireland were deceased by 1911~! Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: "gordon crooks" <glcrooks@bcpl.net> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The "Wee Three" > Cliff: It was the year 1911, I have a copy copy of it and can send it to > you > if you want. > > Gordon Crooks > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cliff. Johnston" <moments-in-time@houston.rr.com> > To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 7:40 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The > "Wee > Three" > > >> Pam, >> >> Thanks. What year is the Ulster Covenant for? >> >> Cliff. Johnston >> "May the best you've ever seen, >> Be the worst you'll ever see;" >> from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pam Craven" <pamcraven@mynow.co.uk> >> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 6:34 PM >> Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The >> "Wee >> Three" >> >> >>> Cliff >>> >>> Have you tried this site for N Ireland >>> >>> http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ >>> >>> It is free to join you can even look at messages but not post a message >>> or >>> reply unless you join. It is lots of general and useful info linked to >>> it >>> also. So a message to the County Antrim list may help or admin may tell >>> you >>> how to post a message to all of the subsidiary lists. >>> >>> >>> I looked at the Ulster Covenant to see where Johnstons may be and there >>> were >>> over 5000 for Johnston and 188 for Johnstone! So searched for Archibald >>> in >>> case it was a family name and came up with these? >>> >>> Surname, forename, address, parliamentary division, district, place of >>> signing, agent. >>> >>> Johnston, Archibald, Lisanymore, Cavan: East, Bailieborough, Billis, >>> Wallace, W : Reverend >>> Johnston, Archibald, 58 Argyle Street, Belfast: West, Shankill, Albert >>> Hall, >>> Shannon, William >>> >>> Not sure if any of this is any use? >>> >>> Pam >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cliff. Johnston >>> Sent: 28 January 2007 15:43 >>> To: irl-antrim@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The >>> "Wee >>> Three" >>> >>> Pam, >>> >>> There are several considerations in looking for a will in Ireland. >>> >>> First, the oral family history that I have about the sailor visiting my >>> ggrandfather came from his neice who was a girl at the time and visiting >>> her >>> >>> uncle, my ggrandfather. She answered the door and overheard parts of >>> the >>> conversation. She didn't know what happened after as my ggrandfather >>> was >>> away visiting kin at the time. So I don't know if it was our family, or >>> if >>> the sailor returned or went to find my ggrandfather. It is somewhat >>> coincidental and curiosity-raising though that James moved to a >>> significantly better farm shortly thereafter. In addtion when 2 of my >>> Dad's >>> >>> aunts visited Ireland in the 1920's they found all of our kin deceased - >>> no >>> one now knows where though - very frustrating. >>> >>> Secondly, we don't know what the name of the deceased family member in >>> Ireland was or where he lived. >>> >>> Cliff. Johnston >>> "May the best you've ever seen, >>> Be the worst you'll ever see;" >>> from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Pam Craven" <pamcraven@mynow.co.uk> >>> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:34 AM >>> Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The >>> "Wee >>> Three" >>> >>> >>>> If someone came looking via a solicitor then I assume there was maybe a >>>> will. Worth checking to see if any Will exists via Belfast ro Dublin >>>> ecord >>>> office I assume? >>>> >>>> Pam >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com >>>> [mailto:irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd >>>> Sent: 28 January 2007 00:40 >>>> To: irl-antrim@rootsweb.com >>>> Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The >>>> "Wee >>>> Three" >>>> >>>> Cliff >>>> What other Canadian information have your found on the three brothers >>>> in >>>> Canada? - Death certificatees, Census entries, newspaper reports of >>>> their >>>> deaths, etc. Even on reports of the 50th or 100th aniversiary of the >>>> County >>>> >>>> may have something on where the family came from in Ireland. >>>> >>>> You did not say what religion they were? Check the local County >>>> history >>>> to >>>> see if any other famileis or Minister's came in this period. This MAY >>>> give >>>> you the general background to see where your family came from. So if >>>> the >>>> county history says that people from Belfast, Ballymoney, etc came in >>>> certain years, those towns regions maybe an starting point. >>>> >>>> Mike Boyd >>>> Brisbane >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Cliff. Johnston" <moments-in-time@houston.rr.com> >>>> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:25 AM >>>> Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The "Wee >>>> Three" >>>> >>>> >>>>> We have no locations in Ireland for any of the Wee Three; however, >>>>> various sources of oral family history have them coming from all over >>>>> the >>>>> island - Ballymena, Londonderry, Tarra, Co. Donegal and Co. Cork being >>>>> mentioned. To make matters even more frustrating is that in the >>>>> 1920's >>>>> 2 >>>>> of my Dad's aunts visited Ireland, found all of our Johnston kin >>>>> buried >>>>> (none surviving), made a journal containing their burial details, and >>>>> now >>>>> no one knows what happened to the journal or where the 2 sisters >>>>> visited. >>>>> >>>>> Ca. 1905-1910 a sailor came to my ggrandfather's farm searching for a >>>>> Johnston. He had been hired by a solicitor in Ireland. The last of >>>>> our >>>>> Johnstons had died leaving no surviving kin in Ireland and a small >>>>> estate. >>>> >>>>> He may have been a pub owner. My grandfather moved about this time to >>>>> a >>>>> better farm in Clarence Twp., Russell Co., Ontario, Canada, on what is >>>>> now >>>> >>>>> Johnston Road. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ulster Covenant, 28 September 1912. You can search for names and view copies of the signatures on the PRONI website: _http://www.proni.gov.uk/ulstercovenant/index.html_ (http://www.proni.gov.uk/ulstercovenant/index.html) Regards Nevin

Cliff: It was the year 1911, I have a copy copy of it and can send it to you if you want. Gordon Crooks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff. Johnston" <moments-in-time@houston.rr.com> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The "Wee Three" > Pam, > > Thanks. What year is the Ulster Covenant for? > > Cliff. Johnston > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see;" > from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pam Craven" <pamcraven@mynow.co.uk> > To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 6:34 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The > "Wee > Three" > > >> Cliff >> >> Have you tried this site for N Ireland >> >> http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ >> >> It is free to join you can even look at messages but not post a message >> or >> reply unless you join. It is lots of general and useful info linked to >> it >> also. So a message to the County Antrim list may help or admin may tell >> you >> how to post a message to all of the subsidiary lists. >> >> >> I looked at the Ulster Covenant to see where Johnstons may be and there >> were >> over 5000 for Johnston and 188 for Johnstone! So searched for Archibald >> in >> case it was a family name and came up with these? >> >> Surname, forename, address, parliamentary division, district, place of >> signing, agent. >> >> Johnston, Archibald, Lisanymore, Cavan: East, Bailieborough, Billis, >> Wallace, W : Reverend >> Johnston, Archibald, 58 Argyle Street, Belfast: West, Shankill, Albert >> Hall, >> Shannon, William >> >> Not sure if any of this is any use? >> >> Pam >> -----Original Message----- >> From: irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cliff. Johnston >> Sent: 28 January 2007 15:43 >> To: irl-antrim@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The >> "Wee >> Three" >> >> Pam, >> >> There are several considerations in looking for a will in Ireland. >> >> First, the oral family history that I have about the sailor visiting my >> ggrandfather came from his neice who was a girl at the time and visiting >> her >> >> uncle, my ggrandfather. She answered the door and overheard parts of the >> conversation. She didn't know what happened after as my ggrandfather was >> away visiting kin at the time. So I don't know if it was our family, or >> if >> the sailor returned or went to find my ggrandfather. It is somewhat >> coincidental and curiosity-raising though that James moved to a >> significantly better farm shortly thereafter. In addtion when 2 of my >> Dad's >> >> aunts visited Ireland in the 1920's they found all of our kin deceased - >> no >> one now knows where though - very frustrating. >> >> Secondly, we don't know what the name of the deceased family member in >> Ireland was or where he lived. >> >> Cliff. Johnston >> "May the best you've ever seen, >> Be the worst you'll ever see;" >> from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pam Craven" <pamcraven@mynow.co.uk> >> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:34 AM >> Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The >> "Wee >> Three" >> >> >>> If someone came looking via a solicitor then I assume there was maybe a >>> will. Worth checking to see if any Will exists via Belfast ro Dublin >>> ecord >>> office I assume? >>> >>> Pam >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd >>> Sent: 28 January 2007 00:40 >>> To: irl-antrim@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The >>> "Wee >>> Three" >>> >>> Cliff >>> What other Canadian information have your found on the three brothers in >>> Canada? - Death certificatees, Census entries, newspaper reports of >>> their >>> deaths, etc. Even on reports of the 50th or 100th aniversiary of the >>> County >>> >>> may have something on where the family came from in Ireland. >>> >>> You did not say what religion they were? Check the local County history >>> to >>> see if any other famileis or Minister's came in this period. This MAY >>> give >>> you the general background to see where your family came from. So if >>> the >>> county history says that people from Belfast, Ballymoney, etc came in >>> certain years, those towns regions maybe an starting point. >>> >>> Mike Boyd >>> Brisbane >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Cliff. Johnston" <moments-in-time@houston.rr.com> >>> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:25 AM >>> Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The "Wee >>> Three" >>> >>> >>>> We have no locations in Ireland for any of the Wee Three; however, >>>> various sources of oral family history have them coming from all over >>>> the >>>> island - Ballymena, Londonderry, Tarra, Co. Donegal and Co. Cork being >>>> mentioned. To make matters even more frustrating is that in the 1920's >>>> 2 >>>> of my Dad's aunts visited Ireland, found all of our Johnston kin buried >>>> (none surviving), made a journal containing their burial details, and >>>> now >>>> no one knows what happened to the journal or where the 2 sisters >>>> visited. >>>> >>>> Ca. 1905-1910 a sailor came to my ggrandfather's farm searching for a >>>> Johnston. He had been hired by a solicitor in Ireland. The last of >>>> our >>>> Johnstons had died leaving no surviving kin in Ireland and a small >>>> estate. >>> >>>> He may have been a pub owner. My grandfather moved about this time to >>>> a >>>> better farm in Clarence Twp., Russell Co., Ontario, Canada, on what is >>>> now >>> >>>> Johnston Road. >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Liz could I please have the details on the Leetch gravestone. Thankyou Lynette

I read with great interest submissions about the Lynn family records. Although I have no known links to that family, place names such as Aughnahoy, Ahoghill, and Killcurry are important to my own research. I found especially interesting the photo on the Lynn family web page of the abandoned church/chapel in the Aughnahoy graveyard. I first visited that location in 1954 in the company of Father Frank (?) Stewart who was then the CC at St. Mary parish in Portglenone and Father Felix McLaughlin, a newly ordained priest who now sleeps peacefully next to his mother in that cemetery. Father Stewart opened the chapel for us to view the interior and told stories of embattled pastors who strove valiantly to keep their flock within the fold in spite of presecution and economic stress. At the time I was a young soldier on leave and only vaguely interested in family ties. I was pleased, however, that Father Stewart took me to meet my mother's cousin Barney Hamill, who had a farm in an a! rea cal led the Largy, on Kilcurry Road, to be specific. (Barney's father was Robert. This Barney is not to be confused with his similarly named uncle.) Forty-two years later I returned to the area to find that Barney was long dead and Barney's farm being operated by Paddy Joe Graffin and his family, whom I found to be gracious hosts. At that time the pastor of St. Mary gave me access to records in which I found some items of related Hamills but all of a period later than my ancestors. But I digress. Briefly, I would like find how to get access the Aughnahoy and Ahoghill records so I can go back farther than the 1870s. In the event that someore shares my Antrim connections, the following summarizes just about all I know about my Hamill ancestors. My maternal grandfather was Charles Hamill, born in 1869. He emigrated from Portglenone (civil parish), County Antrim, Ireland in 1893. He was from the townland of Kilcurry. He was a Catholic and married Jane (Jennie) McLenigan (McClenaghan) in Philadelphia in 1896. Jane had emigrated from the same general area around 1891. She was born in 1872. Charles parents were Patrick Hamill and Elizabeth Duffin. He had siblings named Robert (married to Agnes McCorley), Nancy, Mary Ellen (married to John Kane), and Bernard (Barney). There might have been others. Robert and Nancy remained in Ireland; the others came to USA. Barney is believed to have settled in Western Pennsylvania or West Virginia. Oral tradition says that Charles was a schoolmaster in Ireland, but I have found no evidence of this. He worked in the construction industry in USA. [The following was written in response to someone who was researching a Patrick Hamill.] Besides my great grandfather, the only other Patrick Hamills I know of are mentioned in a book about the area around Portglenone. The book is On the Shining Bann by Robert M. Sibbett. The first of these Patricks is named as one of the grand jurors of the Cashel area on Tuesday, April 10,1792: “We appoint Henry O Neill, Charles MFall, Hugh MDill, and John MMeehan to open the old road leading from Patrick Hamills to Charles Graffans dwelling and order proper gates to be put where necessary.” From other citations, I believe the dwellings mentioned were in the Townland of Kilcurry. The second is the Rev. Patrick J. Hamill, who became pastor of the RC parish church (St. Mary's) of Portglenone in 1877. He was not a native of the area, having been born in Armagh. In 1893 he was transferred to a parish in Belfast. The first of these Patricks might or might not have been connected to either your! ancest ors or mine. I have as yet not been able to determine. I will greatly appreciate any help in pursuing this line to earlier ancestors. All the Best! Ray MacWilliams

Early 1900s maybe 1912/20ish I think, if you go to the Ulsterancestry site I gave you there is the link to it there. Also try registering with Liam http://irishgenealogy.net/cp/forum/index.php This is a similar forum to rootsweb but private and no charge just subscribe in the same way. You may just find someone or something it can't harm to spread the net a little further. Off to Australia in a few hours bags packed and just trying to tidy up emails before switching off for a month! Best wishes Pam -----Original Message----- From: irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cliff. Johnston Sent: 29 January 2007 00:41 To: irl-antrim@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The "Wee Three" Pam, Thanks. What year is the Ulster Covenant for? Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Craven" <pamcraven@mynow.co.uk> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The "Wee Three" > Cliff > > Have you tried this site for N Ireland > > http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ > > It is free to join you can even look at messages but not post a message or > reply unless you join. It is lots of general and useful info linked to it > also. So a message to the County Antrim list may help or admin may tell > you > how to post a message to all of the subsidiary lists. > > > I looked at the Ulster Covenant to see where Johnstons may be and there > were > over 5000 for Johnston and 188 for Johnstone! So searched for Archibald in > case it was a family name and came up with these? > > Surname, forename, address, parliamentary division, district, place of > signing, agent. > > Johnston, Archibald, Lisanymore, Cavan: East, Bailieborough, Billis, > Wallace, W : Reverend > Johnston, Archibald, 58 Argyle Street, Belfast: West, Shankill, Albert > Hall, > Shannon, William > > Not sure if any of this is any use? > > Pam > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cliff. Johnston > Sent: 28 January 2007 15:43 > To: irl-antrim@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The > "Wee > Three" > > Pam, > > There are several considerations in looking for a will in Ireland. > > First, the oral family history that I have about the sailor visiting my > ggrandfather came from his neice who was a girl at the time and visiting > her > > uncle, my ggrandfather. She answered the door and overheard parts of the > conversation. She didn't know what happened after as my ggrandfather was > away visiting kin at the time. So I don't know if it was our family, or > if > the sailor returned or went to find my ggrandfather. It is somewhat > coincidental and curiosity-raising though that James moved to a > significantly better farm shortly thereafter. In addtion when 2 of my > Dad's > > aunts visited Ireland in the 1920's they found all of our kin deceased - > no > one now knows where though - very frustrating. > > Secondly, we don't know what the name of the deceased family member in > Ireland was or where he lived. > > Cliff. Johnston > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see;" > from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pam Craven" <pamcraven@mynow.co.uk> > To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:34 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The > "Wee > Three" > > >> If someone came looking via a solicitor then I assume there was maybe a >> will. Worth checking to see if any Will exists via Belfast ro Dublin >> ecord >> office I assume? >> >> Pam >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd >> Sent: 28 January 2007 00:40 >> To: irl-antrim@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The >> "Wee >> Three" >> >> Cliff >> What other Canadian information have your found on the three brothers in >> Canada? - Death certificatees, Census entries, newspaper reports of their >> deaths, etc. Even on reports of the 50th or 100th aniversiary of the >> County >> >> may have something on where the family came from in Ireland. >> >> You did not say what religion they were? Check the local County history >> to >> see if any other famileis or Minister's came in this period. This MAY >> give >> you the general background to see where your family came from. So if >> the >> county history says that people from Belfast, Ballymoney, etc came in >> certain years, those towns regions maybe an starting point. >> >> Mike Boyd >> Brisbane >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Cliff. Johnston" <moments-in-time@houston.rr.com> >> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:25 AM >> Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The "Wee >> Three" >> >> >>> We have no locations in Ireland for any of the Wee Three; however, >>> various sources of oral family history have them coming from all over >>> the >>> island - Ballymena, Londonderry, Tarra, Co. Donegal and Co. Cork being >>> mentioned. To make matters even more frustrating is that in the 1920's >>> 2 >>> of my Dad's aunts visited Ireland, found all of our Johnston kin buried >>> (none surviving), made a journal containing their burial details, and >>> now >>> no one knows what happened to the journal or where the 2 sisters >>> visited. >>> >>> Ca. 1905-1910 a sailor came to my ggrandfather's farm searching for a >>> Johnston. He had been hired by a solicitor in Ireland. The last of our >>> Johnstons had died leaving no surviving kin in Ireland and a small >>> estate. >> >>> He may have been a pub owner. My grandfather moved about this time to a >>> better farm in Clarence Twp., Russell Co., Ontario, Canada, on what is >>> now >> >>> Johnston Road. >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cliff Have you tried this site for N Ireland http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ It is free to join you can even look at messages but not post a message or reply unless you join. It is lots of general and useful info linked to it also. So a message to the County Antrim list may help or admin may tell you how to post a message to all of the subsidiary lists. I looked at the Ulster Covenant to see where Johnstons may be and there were over 5000 for Johnston and 188 for Johnstone! So searched for Archibald in case it was a family name and came up with these? Surname, forename, address, parliamentary division, district, place of signing, agent. Johnston, Archibald, Lisanymore, Cavan: East, Bailieborough, Billis, Wallace, W : Reverend Johnston, Archibald, 58 Argyle Street, Belfast: West, Shankill, Albert Hall, Shannon, William Not sure if any of this is any use? Pam -----Original Message----- From: irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cliff. Johnston Sent: 28 January 2007 15:43 To: irl-antrim@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The "Wee Three" Pam, There are several considerations in looking for a will in Ireland. First, the oral family history that I have about the sailor visiting my ggrandfather came from his neice who was a girl at the time and visiting her uncle, my ggrandfather. She answered the door and overheard parts of the conversation. She didn't know what happened after as my ggrandfather was away visiting kin at the time. So I don't know if it was our family, or if the sailor returned or went to find my ggrandfather. It is somewhat coincidental and curiosity-raising though that James moved to a significantly better farm shortly thereafter. In addtion when 2 of my Dad's aunts visited Ireland in the 1920's they found all of our kin deceased - no one now knows where though - very frustrating. Secondly, we don't know what the name of the deceased family member in Ireland was or where he lived. Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Craven" <pamcraven@mynow.co.uk> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The "Wee Three" > If someone came looking via a solicitor then I assume there was maybe a > will. Worth checking to see if any Will exists via Belfast ro Dublin > ecord > office I assume? > > Pam > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd > Sent: 28 January 2007 00:40 > To: irl-antrim@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The > "Wee > Three" > > Cliff > What other Canadian information have your found on the three brothers in > Canada? - Death certificatees, Census entries, newspaper reports of their > deaths, etc. Even on reports of the 50th or 100th aniversiary of the > County > > may have something on where the family came from in Ireland. > > You did not say what religion they were? Check the local County history > to > see if any other famileis or Minister's came in this period. This MAY > give > you the general background to see where your family came from. So if the > county history says that people from Belfast, Ballymoney, etc came in > certain years, those towns regions maybe an starting point. > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cliff. Johnston" <moments-in-time@houston.rr.com> > To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:25 AM > Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] JOHNSTON/E, Francis,Robert & Archibald - The "Wee > Three" > > >> We have no locations in Ireland for any of the Wee Three; however, >> various sources of oral family history have them coming from all over the >> island - Ballymena, Londonderry, Tarra, Co. Donegal and Co. Cork being >> mentioned. To make matters even more frustrating is that in the 1920's 2 >> of my Dad's aunts visited Ireland, found all of our Johnston kin buried >> (none surviving), made a journal containing their burial details, and now >> no one knows what happened to the journal or where the 2 sisters visited. >> >> Ca. 1905-1910 a sailor came to my ggrandfather's farm searching for a >> Johnston. He had been hired by a solicitor in Ireland. The last of our >> Johnstons had died leaving no surviving kin in Ireland and a small >> estate. > >> He may have been a pub owner. My grandfather moved about this time to a >> better farm in Clarence Twp., Russell Co., Ontario, Canada, on what is >> now > >> Johnston Road. >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message