From: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> > Unfortunately this source does not say how many other Boyd families there > were in Albany but does mention another family who came direct from Scotland > in 1774, James and Jane Boyd. [NEED TO LIST AS SEPARATE FAMILY CHAPTER - > 3/163] These called the Scotch Boyds while John's family were the Irish > Boyds. In the spring of 1762 John Boyd with his wife Ann Logan and three > children, came to Albany, New York. Mike Boyd:Have you seen the reference in David Dobson's "Scots in New England 1623-1873" to James (in 1741) & John Boyd (in 1751) of Ayrshire being admitted to the Scots Charitable Society? Manuscripts available at New England Historical & Genealogical Society. To List: If you have sub to Ancestry Publications, some of Dobson's books were available to search there. You can get immersed in reading them though! <g> ecunningham@att.net

Whole the IGI says that the 14 children were born in Kilmanrock, the records from the USA said that the family moved to County Antrim before going to Albany, in New York State in the spring of 1762. 2/138 BOYD OF ALBANY, NY* The origins of this family stems from John Boyd who was born in the North of Ireland in 1725 of Scotch parentage. (I assume from this comment that his parents were born in Scotland and moved to Ireland prior to John's birth.) He was the emigrant ancestor and founder of one of the Albany, New York, families of that name (Boyd). Unfortunately this source does not say how many other Boyd families there were in Albany but does mention another family who came direct from Scotland in 1774, James and Jane Boyd. [NEED TO LIST AS SEPARATE FAMILY CHAPTER - 3/163] These called the Scotch Boyds while John's family were the Irish Boyds. In the spring of 1762 John Boyd with his wife Ann Logan and three children, came to Albany, New York. There is a well founded belief that he was one of the Kilmarnock family of Boyd, descended from a branch that settled in Antrim County, Ireland. Many family characteristics and traditions testify to this, also the fact that he used as his seal the coat of arms of the Kilmarnock Boyds, his descendants continuing the use of the same to the present time (1912). (This would appear to be the third family to have a seal of the Kilmarnock family.) The following are the possible parents and siblings of John Boyd (R1) which came from Doug Brown, USA. "Following is my list for the children of Thomas Boyd and Mary Millar taken from Scottish Church Records 2.00 at the local LDS church: 1. Robert Boyd 1722 Ayr 2. Agnes Boyd 1724 Ayr 3. John Boyd 1725 Ayr [assumed that this is R1 below from W. P. Boyd's listing] 4. Margaret Boyd 1727 Ayr 5. Mary Boyd 1729 Ayr 6. Jean Boyd 1731 Ayr 7. Thomas Boyd 1733 Ayr 8. William Boyd 1735 Ayr 9. Hugh Boyd 1738 Ayr 10. Anna Boyd 1741 Ayr" The International Genealogical Index for the United Kingdom has the following information on these children for Thomas Boyd and Mary Miller/Millar. [For ease of setting out I will number these children above their names.] R1 Robert Boyd b /7/1722 at Kilmarnock to Thomas Boyd and Mary Miller. R2 Agnes BOYD (F)............ B: 28 Dec 1723 B: 1 Oct 1946 Ba: 7005510 62 Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 11 Dec 1946 ALBER So: 538352 Mother: Mary MILLER SP: 6 Mar 1947 LOGAN R3 John BOYD (M)............. B: 25 Nov 1725 B: 1 Oct 1946 Ba: 7005510 62 Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 7 Nov 1946 ALBER So: 538352 Mother: Mary MILLER SP: 6 Mar 1947 LOGAN R4 Margaret BOYD (F).......... B: 30 Mar 1727 B: 1 Oct 1945 Ba: 7005510 63 Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 11 Dec 1946 ALBER So: 538352 Mother: Mary MILLER SP: 6 Mar 1947 LOGAN R5 Mary Boyd b 7/6/1729 at Kilmarnock to Thomas Boyd and Mary Miller. R6 Jean BOYD (F).......... B: 2 Aug 1731 B: 20 Jul 1963 F#: 452941 @ Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 11 Jun 1964 LANGE Mother: Mary MILLER SP: Pre-1970 O#: 31856 Jean BOYD (F)........... B: 2 Aug 1731 B: 20 Jul 1963 Ba: 7005510 63 Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 11 Jun 1964 LANGE So: 538352 Mother: Mary MILLER SP: 21 Oct 1965 SLAKE R7 Elizabeth BOYD (F)........ B: 13 Mar 1733 B: 5 Dec 1970 LANGE Ba: 7005510 64 Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 29 Apr 1971 LANGE So: 538352 Mother: Mary MILLER SP: 6 Jan 1972 LANGE R8 Thomas Boyd, C 10/3/1733 at Kilmarnock, F Thomas Boyd, M Mary Miller Thomas Boyd, C 18/3/1733 at Kilmarnock, F Thomas Boyd, M Mary Millar [IT WOULD APPEAR THAT ELIZABETH AND THOMAS WERE TWINS] R9 William Boyd, B 3/1/1735 at Kilmarnock, F Thoams Boyd, M Mary Miller R10 Hugh BOYD (M)............ B: 29 Jan 1738 B: 16 Jan 1971 LANGE Ba: 7005510 64 Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 17 Jun 1971 LANGE So: 538352 Mother: Mary MILLER SP: 11 Jan 1972 LANGE R11 Mary Boyd, B 10/6/1738 at Kilmarnock, F Thomas Boyd, M Mary Miller [THERE WOULD APPEAR TO BE A CONFLICT WITH DATES FOR THE ABOVE TWO CHILDREN] - This could be a twin to Hugh, with the wrong dates, and would also suggest that the first Mary (R5) had died before 1736. [ARE CEMETERY RECORDS AVAILABLE FOR KILMARNOCK TO PROVE THIS?] R12 Anna BOYD (F)........... B: 12 Mar 1741 B: 20 Jul 1963 F#: 452941 @ Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 19 Jun 1964 LANGE Mother: Mary MILLER SP: Pre-1970 O#: 31815 Anna BOYD (F)............ B: 1 Mar 1741 B: 5 Dec 1970 LANGE Ba: 7005510 65 Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 29 Apr 1971 LANGE So: 538352 Mother: Mary MILLER SP: 6 Jan 1972 LANGE Anna BOYD (F)............ C: 15 Mar 1741 B: 20 Jul 1963 Ba: C115974 Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 19 Jun 1964 LANGE So: 1041385, 1041386 Mother: Mary MILLAR SP: 21 Oct 1965 SLAKE Pr: 6900234 The children between A and Margaret came from the 1994 IGI for the UK, while the others came from a hard copy I have of the 1981 IGI for Scotland. As I have not yet copied the 1994 IGI for the UK beyond Margaret, I can't check to see what entries are there for the marriage of Thomas Boyd and Mary Miller. From the 1981 IGI for Scotland it has 2 entries at Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, for the marriage of Thomas and Mary which are:- (i) Thomas Boyd married Mary Miller 3 August 1721 (ii) Thomas Boyd married Mary Millar 30 August 1721 >From the 1981 IGI for Scotland there are eight Thomas Boyd's born between 1690 and 1700 at Kilmarnock (that is assuming he was born there) [SHOULD I LIST ALL THESE?] On the THEORY that Thomas's eldest son (Robert - R1 - see above) was called after his grandfather, ie Thomas's father, you would expect Thomas's father to be called Robert. In the list of birth's for Kilmarnock there are three such candidates for this Robert which are:- (i) Thomas Boyd, born to Robert Boyd and Elizabeth Aird, on 24 November 1700 at Kilmarnock. (ii) Thomas Boyd, bapt. to Robert Boyd and Margaret Connel, on 20 May 1695 at Kilmarnock. (iii) Thomas Boyd, bapt. to Robert Boyd and Jean Connell, on 9 May 1695 at Kilmarnock. Elizabeth Aird was married in 1692 at Kilmarnock Margaret Connell there are 4 entries between 1689 and 1691 all at Kilmarnock I could not see a marriage for a Jean Connel, although in the 1670's children were born to a James Boyd and Janet Connell Does anyone know of the origns of this family of Thomas Boyd born in the early 1700's. Secondly, did any members of the familystay in County Antrim. If so where? Thank you Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS

Hello, This is my first posting so hope I'm on the right list? James HOFFMAN married Amelia MINNIS at Belfast in abt 1858. Can anybody tell me where to find the couple's marriage or can somebody do a look-up please? Perhaps there is somebody on the list who is already researching these families? Amelia was d/o William MINNIS, a school teacher, and born abt 1835. Found MI for a son of theirs (James 1yr, 9 mths) at Ballycarn in 1865. Two other children were born to the couple before James - William HOFFMAN in abt 1859/1860 & George HOFFMAN in abt 1862 but not sure where. James HOFFMAN was from Co Kerry. The couple & 2 sons came out to Melbourne, Australia in 1867 although James came a couple of years earlier. Thanks to all in advance, Jenny in AUS

In the family of an John Boyd born 1690 (In Ireland or Edinburgh, Scotland), who married Jane Craig in 1715 in Philadelphia, PA., USA, his son is said to have married Elisabeth Young, the dau of "Ulster Baronet" Sir William Young. Do members know of any book that I could look up when I go to Ballymena Library in mid March please to find this Sir William Young? And hopefully his daughter, Elizabeth. S1 John Boyd, b 1716 ( , Philadelphia, PA., USA), d 1758 ( ), m 1744 ( ), Elizabeth Young, dau of "Ulster Baronet" Sir William Young, b 1719, d 1803, and had issue:- [Lived: ] [In an email message of 19/12/1998 to the BOYD-L@rootsweb.com group Rommy Lopat (weedpatch@rsg.org) mentions an incident "Following the burning of the Irish Settlement by Indians in 1756, the Boyds removed to Cumberland County (c1756-1760) as did many other families." While this is similar to the story of a John Boyd, whose family is outlined in ch 4/249. However he may have been a close cousin or a Boyd from the same part of Ireland who came to the US together.] This John Boyd went to the Irish Settlement of the Craig Settlement in 1728 with his father. There would appear to be a third John Boyd who is the father of Thomas Boyd from chapter 5/276. This family arrived from County Armagh in 1732 in America - it is not clear when they went to the Irish Settlement. Secondly, I am trying to find out the "standing" of these John Boyd's families, as to why the younger John Boyd was able to marry a Baronet's daughter. Even in America in the 1740's you would hardly expect a Baronet's daughter to marry a "commoner". It may help to identify the Boyd family in Ireland. Since my trip in 2005, I am thinking that a number of the younger members of the Cadet branches of Ayrshire came to northern Ireland in the 1600's for religious reasons. Thank you for your assistance. Mike Boyd Brisbane

There are proponents of each view...........hardly worth a divisive arguement. A couple of posters from New York claimed they are proud to be known Scotch-Irish, yet closer to the action is my cousin Sean Rutledge who lives near London and visits the old family lands on the Anglo-Scot border once every year or two. He says there are no two ways with the Scots, call them Scotch and they'll hand you your head. It seems clear how they feel. PS: Our Rutledges are in OZ too and I would dearly love to visit Australia. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 1:53 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Thomas Boyd and Mary Miller of Kilmarnock, Ayrshire > Don > > You are quite correct. This is quoted form someone else work, so I had to > go with what they wrote. I suppose that I should have made a footnote > that > he wrong term was used. > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane

Well, I'll toss my 2 cents worth into the fray. I used to take this position too with a rather hard-headedness until I was "historically corrected". Going back through the literature into the 1600's -1800's the "Scots" were most often referred to as "Scotch". Indeed, the differentiation that many of us today prefer (Scots = person/nationality, Scotch = liquor) didn't come into much use until just recently (last 50 years in particular) with the interest in genealogy and people wanting/demanding to differentiate between the two. My response to the Englishman correcting me was that languages are living and changing entities and that as such I would prefer to allow the language to evolve and to make the distinction. After all, we don't live in 1607 - it's 2007! Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donal O'Kelly" <ocollaugh@comcast.net> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com>; <ayrshire@rootsweb.com>; <BOYD@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 2:44 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Thomas Boyd and Mary Miller of Kilmarnock, Ayrshire > Since they were born in Scotland, can we assume they were Scots the > nationality and not Scotch the whiskey? > > One of my ancestors I know of came to Ireland from Scotland and in his > writing he said they were Scots. > > Thanks for clarifying the oft abused term Scotch. > > Don Kelly > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> > To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com>; <ayrshire@rootsweb.com>; > <BOYD@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 11:32 PM > Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Thomas Boyd and Mary Miller of Kilmarnock, Ayrshire > > >> Whole the IGI says that the 14 children were born in Kilmanrock, the >> records >> from the USA said that the family moved to County Antrim before going to >> Albany, in New York State in the spring of 1762. >> >> 2/138 BOYD OF ALBANY, NY* >> >> The origins of this family stems from John Boyd who was born in the North >> of >> Ireland in 1725 of Scotch parentage. (I assume from this comment that his >> parents were born in Scotland and moved to Ireland prior to John's >> birth.) >> He was the emigrant ancestor and founder of one of the Albany, New York, >> families of that name (Boyd). >> >> Unfortunately this source does not say how many other Boyd families there >> were in Albany but does mention another family who came direct from >> Scotland >> in 1774, James and Jane Boyd. [NEED TO LIST AS SEPARATE FAMILY CHAPTER - >> 3/163] These called the Scotch Boyds while John's family were the Irish >> Boyds. In the spring of 1762 John Boyd with his wife Ann Logan and three >> children, came to Albany, New York. >> >> There is a well founded belief that he was one of the Kilmarnock family >> of >> Boyd, descended from a branch that settled in Antrim County, Ireland. >> Many >> family characteristics and traditions testify to this, also the fact that >> he >> used as his seal the coat of arms of the Kilmarnock Boyds, his >> descendants >> continuing the use of the same to the present time (1912). (This would >> appear to be the third family to have a seal of the Kilmarnock family.) >> >> The following are the possible parents and siblings of John Boyd (R1) >> which >> came from Doug Brown, USA. >> >> "Following is my list for the children of Thomas Boyd and Mary Millar >> taken >> from Scottish Church Records 2.00 at the local LDS church: >> >> 1. Robert Boyd 1722 Ayr >> >> 2. Agnes Boyd 1724 Ayr >> >> 3. John Boyd 1725 Ayr [assumed that this is R1 below from W. P. Boyd's >> listing] >> >> 4. Margaret Boyd 1727 Ayr >> >> 5. Mary Boyd 1729 Ayr >> >> 6. Jean Boyd 1731 Ayr >> >> 7. Thomas Boyd 1733 Ayr >> >> 8. William Boyd 1735 Ayr >> >> 9. Hugh Boyd 1738 Ayr >> >> 10. Anna Boyd 1741 Ayr" >> >> The International Genealogical Index for the United Kingdom has the >> following information on these children for Thomas Boyd and Mary >> Miller/Millar. [For ease of setting out I will number these children >> above >> their names.] >> >> R1 >> >> Robert Boyd b /7/1722 at Kilmarnock to Thomas Boyd and Mary Miller. >> >> R2 >> >> Agnes BOYD (F)............ B: 28 Dec 1723 B: 1 Oct 1946 Ba: 7005510 62 >> >> Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 11 Dec 1946 ALBER So: >> 538352 >> >> Mother: Mary MILLER SP: 6 Mar 1947 LOGAN >> >> R3 >> >> John BOYD (M)............. B: 25 Nov 1725 B: 1 Oct 1946 Ba: 7005510 62 >> >> Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 7 Nov 1946 ALBER So: >> 538352 >> >> Mother: Mary MILLER SP: 6 Mar 1947 LOGAN >> >> R4 >> >> Margaret BOYD (F).......... B: 30 Mar 1727 B: 1 Oct 1945 Ba: 7005510 63 >> >> Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 11 Dec 1946 ALBER So: >> 538352 >> >> Mother: Mary MILLER SP: 6 Mar 1947 LOGAN >> >> R5 >> >> Mary Boyd b 7/6/1729 at Kilmarnock to Thomas Boyd and Mary Miller. >> >> R6 >> >> Jean BOYD (F).......... B: 2 Aug 1731 B: 20 Jul 1963 F#: 452941 @ >> >> Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 11 Jun 1964 LANGE >> >> Mother: Mary MILLER SP: Pre-1970 O#: 31856 >> >> Jean BOYD (F)........... B: 2 Aug 1731 B: 20 Jul 1963 Ba: 7005510 63 >> >> Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 11 Jun 1964 LANGE So: >> 538352 >> >> Mother: Mary MILLER SP: 21 Oct 1965 SLAKE >> >> R7 >> >> Elizabeth BOYD (F)........ B: 13 Mar 1733 B: 5 Dec 1970 LANGE Ba: 7005510 >> 64 >> >> Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 29 Apr 1971 LANGE So: >> 538352 >> >> Mother: Mary MILLER SP: 6 Jan 1972 LANGE >> >> R8 >> >> Thomas Boyd, C 10/3/1733 at Kilmarnock, F Thomas Boyd, M Mary Miller >> >> Thomas Boyd, C 18/3/1733 at Kilmarnock, F Thomas Boyd, M Mary Millar >> >> [IT WOULD APPEAR THAT ELIZABETH AND THOMAS WERE TWINS] >> >> R9 >> >> William Boyd, B 3/1/1735 at Kilmarnock, F Thoams Boyd, M Mary Miller >> >> R10 >> >> Hugh BOYD (M)............ B: 29 Jan 1738 B: 16 Jan 1971 LANGE Ba: 7005510 >> 64 >> >> Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 17 Jun 1971 LANGE So: >> 538352 >> >> Mother: Mary MILLER SP: 11 Jan 1972 LANGE >> >> R11 >> >> Mary Boyd, B 10/6/1738 at Kilmarnock, F Thomas Boyd, M Mary Miller >> >> [THERE WOULD APPEAR TO BE A CONFLICT WITH DATES FOR THE ABOVE TWO >> CHILDREN] - This could be a twin to Hugh, with the wrong dates, and would >> also suggest that the first Mary (R5) had died before 1736. [ARE CEMETERY >> RECORDS AVAILABLE FOR KILMARNOCK TO PROVE THIS?] >> >> R12 >> >> Anna BOYD (F)........... B: 12 Mar 1741 B: 20 Jul 1963 F#: 452941 @ >> >> Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 19 Jun 1964 LANGE >> >> Mother: Mary MILLER SP: Pre-1970 O#: 31815 >> >> Anna BOYD (F)............ B: 1 Mar 1741 B: 5 Dec 1970 LANGE Ba: 7005510 >> 65 >> >> Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 29 Apr 1971 LANGE So: >> 538352 >> >> Mother: Mary MILLER SP: 6 Jan 1972 LANGE >> >> Anna BOYD (F)............ C: 15 Mar 1741 B: 20 Jul 1963 Ba: C115974 >> >> Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 19 Jun 1964 LANGE So: >> 1041385, 1041386 >> >> Mother: Mary MILLAR SP: 21 Oct 1965 SLAKE Pr: 6900234 >> >> The children between A and Margaret came from the 1994 IGI for the UK, >> while >> the others came from a hard copy I have of the 1981 IGI for Scotland. >> >> As I have not yet copied the 1994 IGI for the UK beyond Margaret, I can't >> check to see what entries are there for the marriage of Thomas Boyd and >> Mary >> Miller. From the 1981 IGI for Scotland it has 2 entries at Kilmarnock, >> Ayrshire, for the marriage of Thomas and Mary which are:- >> >> (i) Thomas Boyd married Mary Miller 3 August 1721 >> >> (ii) Thomas Boyd married Mary Millar 30 August 1721 >> >>>From the 1981 IGI for Scotland there are eight Thomas Boyd's born between >> 1690 and 1700 at Kilmarnock (that is assuming he was born there) [SHOULD >> I >> LIST ALL THESE?] >> >> On the THEORY that Thomas's eldest son (Robert - R1 - see above) was >> called >> after his grandfather, ie Thomas's father, you would expect Thomas's >> father >> to be called Robert. In the list of birth's for Kilmarnock there are >> three >> such candidates for this Robert which are:- >> >> (i) Thomas Boyd, born to Robert Boyd and Elizabeth Aird, on 24 November >> 1700 >> at Kilmarnock. >> >> (ii) Thomas Boyd, bapt. to Robert Boyd and Margaret Connel, on 20 May >> 1695 >> at Kilmarnock. >> >> (iii) Thomas Boyd, bapt. to Robert Boyd and Jean Connell, on 9 May 1695 >> at >> Kilmarnock. >> >> Elizabeth Aird was married in 1692 at Kilmarnock >> >> Margaret Connell there are 4 entries between 1689 and 1691 all at >> Kilmarnock >> >> I could not see a marriage for a Jean Connel, although in the 1670's >> children were born to a James Boyd and Janet Connell >> >> Does anyone know of the origns of this family of Thomas Boyd born in the >> early 1700's. >> >> >> >> Secondly, did any members of the familystay in County Antrim. If so >> where? >> >> >> >> Thank you >> >> >> >> Mike Boyd >> >> Historical Committee, HBS >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My first contact with the word Scotch as a nickname for Scots probably started me off with a bias, for my grandmother Pruitt and her mother greatgrandmother Beebe considered the word as derogatory. They told me the story of Mary Queen of Scots who was murdered by her cousin Queen Elizabeth of England who later died at age 80. Rightly or wrongly they credited Queen Elizabeth with hating the Scots, and hanging the derogatory term Scotch on them. From those beginnings both terms in some circles became synonamous. That's about all I know about it. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff. Johnston" <moments-in-time@houston.rr.com> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com>; <ayrshire@rootsweb.com>; <BOYD@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 7:20 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Thomas Boyd and Mary Miller of Kilmarnock, Ayrshire > Well, I'll toss my 2 cents worth into the fray. I used to take this > position too with a rather hard-headedness until I was "historically > corrected". Going back through the literature into the 1600's -1800's the > "Scots" were most often referred to as "Scotch". Indeed, the > differentiation that many of us today prefer (Scots = person/nationality, > Scotch = liquor) didn't come into much use until just recently (last 50 > years in particular) with the interest in genealogy and people > wanting/demanding to differentiate between the two. My response to the > Englishman correcting me was that languages are living and changing > entities > and that as such I would prefer to allow the language to evolve and to > make > the distinction. After all, we don't live in 1607 - it's 2007! > > Cliff. Johnston > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see;" > from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donal O'Kelly" <ocollaugh@comcast.net> > To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com>; <ayrshire@rootsweb.com>; > <BOYD@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 2:44 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Thomas Boyd and Mary Miller of Kilmarnock, > Ayrshire > > >> Since they were born in Scotland, can we assume they were Scots the >> nationality and not Scotch the whiskey? >> >> One of my ancestors I know of came to Ireland from Scotland and in his >> writing he said they were Scots. >> >> Thanks for clarifying the oft abused term Scotch. >> >> Don Kelly >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> >> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com>; <ayrshire@rootsweb.com>; >> <BOYD@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 11:32 PM >> Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Thomas Boyd and Mary Miller of Kilmarnock, Ayrshire >> >> >>> Whole the IGI says that the 14 children were born in Kilmanrock, the >>> records >>> from the USA said that the family moved to County Antrim before going to >>> Albany, in New York State in the spring of 1762. >>> >>> 2/138 BOYD OF ALBANY, NY* >>> >>> The origins of this family stems from John Boyd who was born in the >>> North >>> of >>> Ireland in 1725 of Scotch parentage. (I assume from this comment that >>> his >>> parents were born in Scotland and moved to Ireland prior to John's >>> birth.) >>> He was the emigrant ancestor and founder of one of the Albany, New York, >>> families of that name (Boyd). >>> >>> Unfortunately this source does not say how many other Boyd families >>> there >>> were in Albany but does mention another family who came direct from >>> Scotland >>> in 1774, James and Jane Boyd. [NEED TO LIST AS SEPARATE FAMILY CHAPTER - >>> 3/163] These called the Scotch Boyds while John's family were the Irish >>> Boyds. In the spring of 1762 John Boyd with his wife Ann Logan and three >>> children, came to Albany, New York. >>> >>> There is a well founded belief that he was one of the Kilmarnock family >>> of >>> Boyd, descended from a branch that settled in Antrim County, Ireland. >>> Many >>> family characteristics and traditions testify to this, also the fact >>> that >>> he >>> used as his seal the coat of arms of the Kilmarnock Boyds, his >>> descendants >>> continuing the use of the same to the present time (1912). (This would >>> appear to be the third family to have a seal of the Kilmarnock family.) >>> >>> The following are the possible parents and siblings of John Boyd (R1) >>> which >>> came from Doug Brown, USA. >>> >>> "Following is my list for the children of Thomas Boyd and Mary Millar >>> taken >>> from Scottish Church Records 2.00 at the local LDS church: >>> >>> 1. Robert Boyd 1722 Ayr >>> >>> 2. Agnes Boyd 1724 Ayr >>> >>> 3. John Boyd 1725 Ayr [assumed that this is R1 below from W. P. Boyd's >>> listing] >>> >>> 4. Margaret Boyd 1727 Ayr >>> >>> 5. Mary Boyd 1729 Ayr >>> >>> 6. Jean Boyd 1731 Ayr >>> >>> 7. Thomas Boyd 1733 Ayr >>> >>> 8. William Boyd 1735 Ayr >>> >>> 9. Hugh Boyd 1738 Ayr >>> >>> 10. Anna Boyd 1741 Ayr" >>> >>> The International Genealogical Index for the United Kingdom has the >>> following information on these children for Thomas Boyd and Mary >>> Miller/Millar. [For ease of setting out I will number these children >>> above >>> their names.] >>> >>> R1 >>> >>> Robert Boyd b /7/1722 at Kilmarnock to Thomas Boyd and Mary Miller. >>> >>> R2 >>> >>> Agnes BOYD (F)............ B: 28 Dec 1723 B: 1 Oct 1946 Ba: 7005510 62 >>> >>> Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 11 Dec 1946 ALBER So: >>> 538352 >>> >>> Mother: Mary MILLER SP: 6 Mar 1947 LOGAN >>> >>> R3 >>> >>> John BOYD (M)............. B: 25 Nov 1725 B: 1 Oct 1946 Ba: 7005510 62 >>> >>> Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 7 Nov 1946 ALBER So: >>> 538352 >>> >>> Mother: Mary MILLER SP: 6 Mar 1947 LOGAN >>> >>> R4 >>> >>> Margaret BOYD (F).......... B: 30 Mar 1727 B: 1 Oct 1945 Ba: 7005510 63 >>> >>> Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 11 Dec 1946 ALBER So: >>> 538352 >>> >>> Mother: Mary MILLER SP: 6 Mar 1947 LOGAN >>> >>> R5 >>> >>> Mary Boyd b 7/6/1729 at Kilmarnock to Thomas Boyd and Mary Miller. >>> >>> R6 >>> >>> Jean BOYD (F).......... B: 2 Aug 1731 B: 20 Jul 1963 F#: 452941 @ >>> >>> Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 11 Jun 1964 LANGE >>> >>> Mother: Mary MILLER SP: Pre-1970 O#: 31856 >>> >>> Jean BOYD (F)........... B: 2 Aug 1731 B: 20 Jul 1963 Ba: 7005510 63 >>> >>> Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 11 Jun 1964 LANGE So: >>> 538352 >>> >>> Mother: Mary MILLER SP: 21 Oct 1965 SLAKE >>> >>> R7 >>> >>> Elizabeth BOYD (F)........ B: 13 Mar 1733 B: 5 Dec 1970 LANGE Ba: >>> 7005510 >>> 64 >>> >>> Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 29 Apr 1971 LANGE So: >>> 538352 >>> >>> Mother: Mary MILLER SP: 6 Jan 1972 LANGE >>> >>> R8 >>> >>> Thomas Boyd, C 10/3/1733 at Kilmarnock, F Thomas Boyd, M Mary Miller >>> >>> Thomas Boyd, C 18/3/1733 at Kilmarnock, F Thomas Boyd, M Mary Millar >>> >>> [IT WOULD APPEAR THAT ELIZABETH AND THOMAS WERE TWINS] >>> >>> R9 >>> >>> William Boyd, B 3/1/1735 at Kilmarnock, F Thoams Boyd, M Mary Miller >>> >>> R10 >>> >>> Hugh BOYD (M)............ B: 29 Jan 1738 B: 16 Jan 1971 LANGE Ba: >>> 7005510 >>> 64 >>> >>> Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 17 Jun 1971 LANGE So: >>> 538352 >>> >>> Mother: Mary MILLER SP: 11 Jan 1972 LANGE >>> >>> R11 >>> >>> Mary Boyd, B 10/6/1738 at Kilmarnock, F Thomas Boyd, M Mary Miller >>> >>> [THERE WOULD APPEAR TO BE A CONFLICT WITH DATES FOR THE ABOVE TWO >>> CHILDREN] - This could be a twin to Hugh, with the wrong dates, and >>> would >>> also suggest that the first Mary (R5) had died before 1736. [ARE >>> CEMETERY >>> RECORDS AVAILABLE FOR KILMARNOCK TO PROVE THIS?] >>> >>> R12 >>> >>> Anna BOYD (F)........... B: 12 Mar 1741 B: 20 Jul 1963 F#: 452941 @ >>> >>> Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 19 Jun 1964 LANGE >>> >>> Mother: Mary MILLER SP: Pre-1970 O#: 31815 >>> >>> Anna BOYD (F)............ B: 1 Mar 1741 B: 5 Dec 1970 LANGE Ba: 7005510 >>> 65 >>> >>> Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 29 Apr 1971 LANGE So: >>> 538352 >>> >>> Mother: Mary MILLER SP: 6 Jan 1972 LANGE >>> >>> Anna BOYD (F)............ C: 15 Mar 1741 B: 20 Jul 1963 Ba: C115974 >>> >>> Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 19 Jun 1964 LANGE So: >>> 1041385, 1041386 >>> >>> Mother: Mary MILLAR SP: 21 Oct 1965 SLAKE Pr: 6900234 >>> >>> The children between A and Margaret came from the 1994 IGI for the UK, >>> while >>> the others came from a hard copy I have of the 1981 IGI for Scotland. >>> >>> As I have not yet copied the 1994 IGI for the UK beyond Margaret, I >>> can't >>> check to see what entries are there for the marriage of Thomas Boyd and >>> Mary >>> Miller. From the 1981 IGI for Scotland it has 2 entries at Kilmarnock, >>> Ayrshire, for the marriage of Thomas and Mary which are:- >>> >>> (i) Thomas Boyd married Mary Miller 3 August 1721 >>> >>> (ii) Thomas Boyd married Mary Millar 30 August 1721 >>> >>>>From the 1981 IGI for Scotland there are eight Thomas Boyd's born >>>>between >>> 1690 and 1700 at Kilmarnock (that is assuming he was born there) [SHOULD >>> I >>> LIST ALL THESE?] >>> >>> On the THEORY that Thomas's eldest son (Robert - R1 - see above) was >>> called >>> after his grandfather, ie Thomas's father, you would expect Thomas's >>> father >>> to be called Robert. In the list of birth's for Kilmarnock there are >>> three >>> such candidates for this Robert which are:- >>> >>> (i) Thomas Boyd, born to Robert Boyd and Elizabeth Aird, on 24 November >>> 1700 >>> at Kilmarnock. >>> >>> (ii) Thomas Boyd, bapt. to Robert Boyd and Margaret Connel, on 20 May >>> 1695 >>> at Kilmarnock. >>> >>> (iii) Thomas Boyd, bapt. to Robert Boyd and Jean Connell, on 9 May 1695 >>> at >>> Kilmarnock. >>> >>> Elizabeth Aird was married in 1692 at Kilmarnock >>> >>> Margaret Connell there are 4 entries between 1689 and 1691 all at >>> Kilmarnock >>> >>> I could not see a marriage for a Jean Connel, although in the 1670's >>> children were born to a James Boyd and Janet Connell >>> >>> Does anyone know of the origns of this family of Thomas Boyd born in the >>> early 1700's. >>> >>> >>> >>> Secondly, did any members of the familystay in County Antrim. If so >>> where? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank you >>> >>> >>> >>> Mike Boyd >>> >>> Historical Committee, HBS >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Bob I was interested to read your message particularly the information regarding the surname Buick. My GGrandmother was Esther Buick who was the daughter of John Buick but I have no other information regarding her other than that she married an Adam Anderson in 1864 and they lived at Knowehead, Broughshane. They had a family of 6 (4 girls and 2 boys). One of the girls, Mary Anderson was my grandmother and she married William Conway. His sister Annie Wilson Conway married a John Cathcart and it would appear that they 'eloped' to Glasgow to marry as family folklore has it that one or other of the families disapproved of the marriage. At the time Annie gave her normal residence as Castle Street, Ballymena. Does this link in any way to what you have? Ian A C Scott

Several list subscribers are asking when Irish Census might be put on line. If you go to the following link for Ulster Ancestry _http://www.ulsterancestry.com/newsletter-content.php?id=181_ (http://www.ulsterancestry.com/newsletter-content.php?id=181) you will see an announcement of interest that appeared in Dec2005/Jan 2006 Since then there have been a couple of announcements in the genealogical press and it would appear that some of the census (1911 for Dublin) will appear round about the 3rd qtr of this year 2007 with the rest following later. Hope this helps.

Don, just two small points. It would be Scotch whisky not whiskey. Scotch was commonly used here for both nationality and spirit. You can find it in placenames such as Ballyrock Scotch (cf Ballyrock Irish). Nevin

Hi Jenny I picked the following up from www.emeraldancestors.com which may be of use:- Record TypeCivil Marriage Date of Marriage23 Sep 1858 Groom NameJames HOFFMAN Bride NameAmelia MINNIS ChurchSaint Annes Church of Ireland ParishShankill Civil DistrictBelfast CountyAntrim You can order the certificate from the General Registry Office in Belfast (just google "GRONI") and it should have residence, fathers name and occupation if you need more details. Cheers Heather ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new free AOL Email -- 2GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.

Pretty good spirits made in North Antrim I hear. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: <TaggartN@aol.com> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 12:51 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Thomas Boyd and Mary Miller of Kilmarnock, Ayrshire > Don, just two small points. It would be Scotch whisky not whiskey. Scotch > was commonly used here for both nationality and spirit. You can find it in > placenames such as Ballyrock Scotch (cf Ballyrock Irish). > > Nevin > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Since they were born in Scotland, can we assume they were Scots the nationality and not Scotch the whiskey? One of my ancestors I know of came to Ireland from Scotland and in his writing he said they were Scots. Thanks for clarifying the oft abused term Scotch. Don Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com>; <ayrshire@rootsweb.com>; <BOYD@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 11:32 PM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Thomas Boyd and Mary Miller of Kilmarnock, Ayrshire > Whole the IGI says that the 14 children were born in Kilmanrock, the > records > from the USA said that the family moved to County Antrim before going to > Albany, in New York State in the spring of 1762. > > 2/138 BOYD OF ALBANY, NY* > > The origins of this family stems from John Boyd who was born in the North > of > Ireland in 1725 of Scotch parentage. (I assume from this comment that his > parents were born in Scotland and moved to Ireland prior to John's birth.) > He was the emigrant ancestor and founder of one of the Albany, New York, > families of that name (Boyd). > > Unfortunately this source does not say how many other Boyd families there > were in Albany but does mention another family who came direct from > Scotland > in 1774, James and Jane Boyd. [NEED TO LIST AS SEPARATE FAMILY CHAPTER - > 3/163] These called the Scotch Boyds while John's family were the Irish > Boyds. In the spring of 1762 John Boyd with his wife Ann Logan and three > children, came to Albany, New York. > > There is a well founded belief that he was one of the Kilmarnock family of > Boyd, descended from a branch that settled in Antrim County, Ireland. Many > family characteristics and traditions testify to this, also the fact that > he > used as his seal the coat of arms of the Kilmarnock Boyds, his descendants > continuing the use of the same to the present time (1912). (This would > appear to be the third family to have a seal of the Kilmarnock family.) > > The following are the possible parents and siblings of John Boyd (R1) > which > came from Doug Brown, USA. > > "Following is my list for the children of Thomas Boyd and Mary Millar > taken > from Scottish Church Records 2.00 at the local LDS church: > > 1. Robert Boyd 1722 Ayr > > 2. Agnes Boyd 1724 Ayr > > 3. John Boyd 1725 Ayr [assumed that this is R1 below from W. P. Boyd's > listing] > > 4. Margaret Boyd 1727 Ayr > > 5. Mary Boyd 1729 Ayr > > 6. Jean Boyd 1731 Ayr > > 7. Thomas Boyd 1733 Ayr > > 8. William Boyd 1735 Ayr > > 9. Hugh Boyd 1738 Ayr > > 10. Anna Boyd 1741 Ayr" > > The International Genealogical Index for the United Kingdom has the > following information on these children for Thomas Boyd and Mary > Miller/Millar. [For ease of setting out I will number these children above > their names.] > > R1 > > Robert Boyd b /7/1722 at Kilmarnock to Thomas Boyd and Mary Miller. > > R2 > > Agnes BOYD (F)............ B: 28 Dec 1723 B: 1 Oct 1946 Ba: 7005510 62 > > Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 11 Dec 1946 ALBER So: > 538352 > > Mother: Mary MILLER SP: 6 Mar 1947 LOGAN > > R3 > > John BOYD (M)............. B: 25 Nov 1725 B: 1 Oct 1946 Ba: 7005510 62 > > Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 7 Nov 1946 ALBER So: > 538352 > > Mother: Mary MILLER SP: 6 Mar 1947 LOGAN > > R4 > > Margaret BOYD (F).......... B: 30 Mar 1727 B: 1 Oct 1945 Ba: 7005510 63 > > Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 11 Dec 1946 ALBER So: > 538352 > > Mother: Mary MILLER SP: 6 Mar 1947 LOGAN > > R5 > > Mary Boyd b 7/6/1729 at Kilmarnock to Thomas Boyd and Mary Miller. > > R6 > > Jean BOYD (F).......... B: 2 Aug 1731 B: 20 Jul 1963 F#: 452941 @ > > Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 11 Jun 1964 LANGE > > Mother: Mary MILLER SP: Pre-1970 O#: 31856 > > Jean BOYD (F)........... B: 2 Aug 1731 B: 20 Jul 1963 Ba: 7005510 63 > > Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 11 Jun 1964 LANGE So: > 538352 > > Mother: Mary MILLER SP: 21 Oct 1965 SLAKE > > R7 > > Elizabeth BOYD (F)........ B: 13 Mar 1733 B: 5 Dec 1970 LANGE Ba: 7005510 > 64 > > Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 29 Apr 1971 LANGE So: > 538352 > > Mother: Mary MILLER SP: 6 Jan 1972 LANGE > > R8 > > Thomas Boyd, C 10/3/1733 at Kilmarnock, F Thomas Boyd, M Mary Miller > > Thomas Boyd, C 18/3/1733 at Kilmarnock, F Thomas Boyd, M Mary Millar > > [IT WOULD APPEAR THAT ELIZABETH AND THOMAS WERE TWINS] > > R9 > > William Boyd, B 3/1/1735 at Kilmarnock, F Thoams Boyd, M Mary Miller > > R10 > > Hugh BOYD (M)............ B: 29 Jan 1738 B: 16 Jan 1971 LANGE Ba: 7005510 > 64 > > Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 17 Jun 1971 LANGE So: > 538352 > > Mother: Mary MILLER SP: 11 Jan 1972 LANGE > > R11 > > Mary Boyd, B 10/6/1738 at Kilmarnock, F Thomas Boyd, M Mary Miller > > [THERE WOULD APPEAR TO BE A CONFLICT WITH DATES FOR THE ABOVE TWO > CHILDREN] - This could be a twin to Hugh, with the wrong dates, and would > also suggest that the first Mary (R5) had died before 1736. [ARE CEMETERY > RECORDS AVAILABLE FOR KILMARNOCK TO PROVE THIS?] > > R12 > > Anna BOYD (F)........... B: 12 Mar 1741 B: 20 Jul 1963 F#: 452941 @ > > Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 19 Jun 1964 LANGE > > Mother: Mary MILLER SP: Pre-1970 O#: 31815 > > Anna BOYD (F)............ B: 1 Mar 1741 B: 5 Dec 1970 LANGE Ba: 7005510 65 > > Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 29 Apr 1971 LANGE So: > 538352 > > Mother: Mary MILLER SP: 6 Jan 1972 LANGE > > Anna BOYD (F)............ C: 15 Mar 1741 B: 20 Jul 1963 Ba: C115974 > > Father: Thomas BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 19 Jun 1964 LANGE So: > 1041385, 1041386 > > Mother: Mary MILLAR SP: 21 Oct 1965 SLAKE Pr: 6900234 > > The children between A and Margaret came from the 1994 IGI for the UK, > while > the others came from a hard copy I have of the 1981 IGI for Scotland. > > As I have not yet copied the 1994 IGI for the UK beyond Margaret, I can't > check to see what entries are there for the marriage of Thomas Boyd and > Mary > Miller. From the 1981 IGI for Scotland it has 2 entries at Kilmarnock, > Ayrshire, for the marriage of Thomas and Mary which are:- > > (i) Thomas Boyd married Mary Miller 3 August 1721 > > (ii) Thomas Boyd married Mary Millar 30 August 1721 > >>From the 1981 IGI for Scotland there are eight Thomas Boyd's born between > 1690 and 1700 at Kilmarnock (that is assuming he was born there) [SHOULD I > LIST ALL THESE?] > > On the THEORY that Thomas's eldest son (Robert - R1 - see above) was > called > after his grandfather, ie Thomas's father, you would expect Thomas's > father > to be called Robert. In the list of birth's for Kilmarnock there are three > such candidates for this Robert which are:- > > (i) Thomas Boyd, born to Robert Boyd and Elizabeth Aird, on 24 November > 1700 > at Kilmarnock. > > (ii) Thomas Boyd, bapt. to Robert Boyd and Margaret Connel, on 20 May 1695 > at Kilmarnock. > > (iii) Thomas Boyd, bapt. to Robert Boyd and Jean Connell, on 9 May 1695 at > Kilmarnock. > > Elizabeth Aird was married in 1692 at Kilmarnock > > Margaret Connell there are 4 entries between 1689 and 1691 all at > Kilmarnock > > I could not see a marriage for a Jean Connel, although in the 1670's > children were born to a James Boyd and Janet Connell > > Does anyone know of the origns of this family of Thomas Boyd born in the > early 1700's. > > > > Secondly, did any members of the familystay in County Antrim. If so > where? > > > > Thank you > > > > Mike Boyd > > Historical Committee, HBS > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Tony it is about 1 kms SE of the intersection of the B17 and B62 andia about half way between Bushmills and Coleraine. Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Matthews" <tmatthews_16@sympatico.ca> To: <IRL-ANTRIM@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 7:01 AM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Risk > greetings; could anyone direct me to the location of what was the townland > of risk, I think it was in the Bushmills area but would like to be sure . > > thank you > > Tony Matthews > Brampton Ontario. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Linde Elizabeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "DIB" <DIB@ucd.ie> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Irish in the Blood >I have a copy; the family is Magill I believe(from memory). They are from > north Antrim near Armoy > > Linde Lunney > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ NOD32 2042 (20070206) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > >

Hello, I believe there is a book written by Marie Gray called Irish in the Blood. Does this book speak of the McGill family or Magill family? Does anyone know? Is the book still for sale or is it now out of print? With thanks Elizabeth

Map link to the Risk _http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?lat=55.1659&lon=-6.5612&scale=25000&ic on=x_ (http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?lat=55.1659&lon=-6.5612&scale=25000&icon=x) Nevin

greetings; could anyone direct me to the location of what was the townland of risk, I think it was in the Bushmills area but would like to be sure . thank you Tony Matthews Brampton Ontario.

I have a copy; the family is Magill I believe(from memory). They are from north Antrim near Armoy Linde Lunney

Dear Liz Carter I would appreciate a lookup on the HUME (see TATE#2 ) entry from your booklet. Thank you. Bill Hume in Calgary, Alberta, Canada