This is the only Peter kyle I could find Record Type Civil Birth Date of Birth 1 Apr 1872 Name Peter KYLE Gender M Mothers Maiden Name Mary Jane KYLE Civil District Lisnaskea Sub District Brookeborough County Fermanagh on Emerald ancestors, hope it is of some help Yvonne Lascelles ----- Original Message ----- From: <Iretonhenry@aol.com> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Emerald Ancestors helo >i apologise if i read your email, at 75 i thought i was reasonable bu now > realise i am not, i am looking for a peter kyle married alice kilpatrick > more > than likely in a Presbyterian church in northern ireland, can you help me > it's > the pronti i can not' understand and of course the expense can be off > putting, i have been trying for three years now, > if you can help i would be grateful > god bless liz Hamilton > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I found it cheaper to get my full data records from the Ulster historical foundation (£6.00) after I found my data in Emerald ancestors index- I still do not understand why overseas researchers should be charged more, its still a look up and emailed reply for full data no matter where you live? Yvonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Moosman" <pat.moosman@clear.net.nz> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Hawthorne family > In NZ dollars it is triple and that is why I only signed on for a month. > The > information I got for myself was sufficient to order 2 marriage > certificates > and that cost as much as it does to order from the PRONI and the > certificates are the same > > Sorry I was not of more help to you > Patricia > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > unschool@swfla.rr.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:07 AM > To: irl-antrim@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Hawthorne family > > Thank you for your help and from the information from Emerald Ancestors. I > did locate William's birth record and his parents marriage record is on > there as well althoughh I had this information previously. I am really > looking to find out William Hawthorne's father's (James Hawthorne) > mother's > name and also his mother's (Elizabeth Bell) mother's name. > > Hope that isn't too confusing... > > Emerald Ancestry is an okay resource athough it doesn't give you much > information - even for the 10 pounds a month. From the US it is almost > double that much. It serves as a basic record search. For me, there is too > little information to go on -- even to order a record from. > > Eireann > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Patricia (and other repliers), Thanks for your time. The Emerald Ancestors website is grand compared to some of the other internet sources for records from NI. I paid the (almost) $20US for a month just to see what I can mine out of the site. Before I caught a glimpse of your posting on this email list I was ordering record views from Ancestry Ireland.com for about $12US a view. I would still need to order vitals after that cost anyway. I may need to take out a genealogy mortgage to cover all of this research. I'm sure that either of these websites may be of more help when the researcher has enough definitive information on a particular relative. I am lacking the maiden names and in many cases the first names of many of my Hawthorne and Bell family women. It makes it impossible to be sure if I am ordering the correct record or not. I can't afford to waste precious dollars that can be spent elsewhere in my quest. Again, I appreciate any assistance from all of the listers. It is mighty hard to search for NI relatives. My UK clan's files are mounting by the day as my Northern Irish relatives keep their identities hidden. It doesn't help that every darn Irishman seems to be named William, John or James and women Elizabeth, Ann or Mary. Damn those Ulster folk! :) Suggestions are always welcome! Eireann > >> In NZ dollars it is triple and that is why I only signed on for a month. >> The >> information I got for myself was sufficient to order 2 marriage >> certificates >> and that cost as much as it does to order from the PRONI and the >> certificates are the same >> >> Sorry I was not of more help to you >> Patricia >>

I am searching for my mother's birth certificate. Her name was Ellen Orr Knocker. She was born in Belfast on August 3, 1914. Her mother's name was Annie Louisa McDowell. We think her father's name was John Knocker. My grandmother didn't marry John Knocker until 1915. My mother's brother was James Knocker also and born in Belfast in 1913. Annie McDowell (my grandmiother) later married Alexander Barter in 1918. Any help will be most appreciated! Susan Valentine

I have no good suggestions to get around those trees Eireann, but your research points out the fact that research we do for others free of charge costs a lot of money every year. Don Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: <unschool@swfla.rr.com> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] IRL-ANTRIM Digest, Vol 2, Issue 55 > Patricia (and other repliers), > > Thanks for your time. The Emerald Ancestors website is grand compared to > some of the other internet sources for records from NI. I paid the > (almost) > $20US for a month just to see what I can mine out of the site. Before I > caught a glimpse of your posting on this email list I was ordering record > views from Ancestry Ireland.com for about $12US a view. I would still need > to order vitals after that cost anyway. I may need to take out a genealogy > mortgage to cover all of this research.

Patricia, I would appreciate so much if you could look up a birth for Charles W. Connor, born 1820 or 1821, possibly in County Antrim, Ahoghill parish. His father may be Patrick Connor..of that I am not sure and I don't know his mother's name. I've been stuck at this point for so long. Thank you for your help. Carol B.

Steven See what information you can get on who were the passengers on the "Restoration". She MAY HAVE had the conflict with the Church of Ireland about burying her husband. Only a few weeks ago there was mention of an Rev William Martin of Kellswater who was in A.R.P minister organising 5 ships in the 1770's to South Carolina. One of the SC ports is Charlestown, so you may get some passenger list for that port? Mike boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: <johnnylumen@comcast.net> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] 1785 sailings from Antrim > Mike Boyd, > Family history tells us it was Belfast. We assume she was of the > Presbyterian faith as she joined the A.R.P. church upon arrival in York > County, South Carolina where many of her relations were settled. Story > goes as follows: > > According to research, Mary Ann and husband James lived first in Scotland, > moving to Belfast, Ireland, where James died leaving his widow and three > small children. The widow buried her first husband in her yard which did > not please the church officials of that day, and so religious harassment > of the widow began. To escape this persecution, she prepared to leave her > homeland and establish herself and her young children in the new land of > America. She may have had relatives already in the United States. There it > was that she and her sons set sail in 1785. James was born in 1780 and > William and John Hosea between 1780 and 1785. It is believed they sailed > on the ship Restoration, arriving at a port in South Carolina. > > Thank you. > r/Steven Mitchell > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> > >> Steven >> Where in County Antrim did she live. >> >> Which Church persecuted her? She mayhave gone on on of the "Church" >> sponsed >> groups, like the Rev William Martin did in 1770's from Kellswater. >> >> Mike Boyd >> Brisbane >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 4:37 AM >> Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] 1785 sailings from Antrim >> >> >> > Trying to determine port or ship that our MaryAnn? Biggers may have >> > departed from Antrim in 1785 after persecution by the Church after >> > burying >> > her husband James in their yard. She would departed with three very >> > young >> > sons. Family history says it was the ship Restoration to South >> > Carolina, >> > but, of course, 1785 ship records are lacking, if existant at all. >> > Any thoughts would be sincerely appreciated. >> > Thank you. >> > r/Steven Mitchell, Naperville, IL, USA >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yvonne: Its simple, they can get away with it. The locals can shop around you can't you are thousands of miles away so you pay top amout. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yvonne Lascelles" <y.lascelles@toucansurf.com> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Hawthorne family >I found it cheaper to get my full data records from the Ulster historical > foundation (£6.00) after I found my data in Emerald ancestors index- I > still > do not understand why overseas researchers should be charged more, its > still > a look up and emailed reply for full data no matter where you live? > Yvonne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patricia Moosman" <pat.moosman@clear.net.nz> > To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 5:30 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Hawthorne family > > >> In NZ dollars it is triple and that is why I only signed on for a month. >> The >> information I got for myself was sufficient to order 2 marriage >> certificates >> and that cost as much as it does to order from the PRONI and the >> certificates are the same >> >> Sorry I was not of more help to you >> Patricia >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >> unschool@swfla.rr.com >> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:07 AM >> To: irl-antrim@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Hawthorne family >> >> Thank you for your help and from the information from Emerald Ancestors. >> I >> did locate William's birth record and his parents marriage record is on >> there as well althoughh I had this information previously. I am really >> looking to find out William Hawthorne's father's (James Hawthorne) >> mother's >> name and also his mother's (Elizabeth Bell) mother's name. >> >> Hope that isn't too confusing... >> >> Emerald Ancestry is an okay resource athough it doesn't give you much >> information - even for the 10 pounds a month. From the US it is almost >> double that much. It serves as a basic record search. For me, there is >> too >> little information to go on -- even to order a record from. >> >> Eireann >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Have found this birth on Emerald ancestors but I think it is to late to be your William but thought I would send it anyway Record Type Civil Birth Date of Birth 2 May 1866 Name William HAWTHORNE Gender M Fathers Name William HAWTHORNE Mothers Maiden Name Martha YOUNG Civil District Newtownards Sub District Kilmood County Down And some marriages that might fit for James Record Type Civil Marriage Date of Marriage 07 May 1849 Groom Name james HAWTHORNE Bride Name isabella BALLANCE Church Banbridge Civil Registrars Office Parish Seapatrick Civil District Banbridge County Down Record Type Civil Marriage Date of Marriage 08 Sep 1857 Groom Name james HAWTHORNE Bride Name susanna RUDDOCK Church Dromore Church of Ireland Parish Dromore Civil District Banbridge County Down Record Type Civil Marriage Date of Marriage 15 Jan 1861 Groom Name james HAWTHORNE Bride Name elizabeth ELLIOTT Church Magheralin Church of Ireland Parish Magheralin Civil District Lurgan County Down Record Type Civil Marriage Date of Marriage 12 Sep 1861 Groom Name james HAWTHORNE Bride Name rachel CLUGSTON Church Antrim Old Presbyterian Church Parish Antrim Civil District Antrim County Antrim Hope this is of some help Patricia New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ulster3 Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:20 AM To: IRL-ANTRIM@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Hawthornes - help with research Hello, I am trying to locate information on a relative from Antrim or possibly Down. My gg-grandafther William John Hawthorne Sr. (married to Elizabeth Bell in 1880, Lisburn) and his father James Hawthorne. I am wondering how I might go about getting William's birth certificate without knowing his mother's first or last name. I would like to obtain his father James and mother's marriage certificate but I have been unable to unearth any definitive source for his mother's identity. There seem to be a surplus of James and Williams running around Antrim Co. Any suggestions. Thanks in advance. Eireann ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for your help and from the information from Emerald Ancestors. I did locate William's birth record and his parents marriage record is on there as well althoughh I had this information previously. I am really looking to find out William Hawthorne's father's (James Hawthorne) mother's name and also his mother's (Elizabeth Bell) mother's name. Hope that isn't too confusing... Emerald Ancestry is an okay resource athough it doesn't give you much information - even for the 10 pounds a month. From the US it is almost double that much. It serves as a basic record search. For me, there is too little information to go on -- even to order a record from. Eireann

Steven Where in County Antrim did she live. Which Church persecuted her? She mayhave gone on on of the "Church" sponsed groups, like the Rev William Martin did in 1770's from Kellswater. Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: <johnnylumen@comcast.net> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 4:37 AM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] 1785 sailings from Antrim > Trying to determine port or ship that our MaryAnn? Biggers may have > departed from Antrim in 1785 after persecution by the Church after burying > her husband James in their yard. She would departed with three very young > sons. Family history says it was the ship Restoration to South Carolina, > but, of course, 1785 ship records are lacking, if existant at all. > Any thoughts would be sincerely appreciated. > Thank you. > r/Steven Mitchell, Naperville, IL, USA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nice And Accurate Summary Jim. It seems evident from the snapshots of history that there was a lot of, "Monkey see, monkey do," in record keeping going on. My biased inclination is to use more acceptable titles like Ulster-Scots or Scots-Irish and avoid using the "s" word for the same reasons we avoid using the "n" word, Respect. Because the term(s) appear repeatedly in history does not make them written in stone. Don in Oregon ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim at syracuse" <j.j.carroll@earthlink.net> To: <Irl-Antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 8:37 AM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Scotch-Irish - an insult, hardly! > The Scotch-Irish - an insult, hardly! > > To call them Scotch-Irish may be an unacceptable to some Scots, and it is > an amusing controversy, but the term is quite acceptable where the many > listers hail from. "Scotch-Irish" found its way into the lexicon a very > long time ago. Even though the term is an Americanism, and not generally > known in Scotland and Ireland, it has been in general use since the 18th > century. But it goes back even further. > > Writing in 1573 good queen Elizabeth (yes, I know - she is hardly a Scot!) > used the term Scotch-Irish and nobody raised any objection, except perhaps > Sorley Boy - but given the context perhaps his objections were a bit > muted. Beth said, "We are given to understand that a nobleman named > 'Sorley Boy' [McDonald] and others, who be of the Scotch-Irish race, and > some of the wild Irish, at this time are content to acknowledge our true > and mere right to the countrie of Ulster and the crowne of Ireland." > > Good Queen Liz then offered the right, ownership, and the inheritance of > the land ".upon the taking of an oath of allegiance to any meer Irish, or > Scotch-Irish, or other strangers." > > But that was only an English Queen and she should be excused her > transgressions, except for the fact that the late Professor James G. > Leyburn located in the 1675 register of the University of Glasgow records > and enrollment of one Francis Makemie from Ramelton. It included a > notation that he was "Scoto-Hibernicus." That is, of course, Scotch-Irish. > This Franciscus Makemius was later to emigrate to North America where he > founded the Presbyterian Church on that continent, and organized the first > Presbytery in Philadelphia in 1706. > > By the way, the last time I googled Glasgow, it was still in Scotland. > > The Rev. Cotton Mather who received his Doctor of Divinity in 1710 from > the University of Glasgow was a leading clergyman in the American > colonies. In 1706 he wrote, " I write letters unto diverse persons of > Honour both in Scotland and in England; to procure Settlements of good > Scotch Colonies, to the Northwest of us." > > For a little more history, during this formative period of American > colonies the term "Scotch-Irish" was little used. This was not because it > was felt to be disparaging, but rather the preferred term for those that > originally emigrated was "Irish." Most of these immigrants were originally > Ulstermen, and between 1717 and the Revolutionary War more than a quarter > million from Ulster came to America. And a majority were Presbyterians and > other dissenters. Even during the Revolutionary War they referred to > themselves as Irish. And the term stuck until the mid-19th century when > the poorer and principally illiterate elements arrived, primarily Roman > Catholics. > > This flood of Irish escaping the Famine was descending upon what was then > a Protestant county, much like Ulster. Prejudice against all foreigners > was rampant, not so much on a sectarian basis, but because these people > would hire out at near slave wages. Like much of Ulster, the antipathy was > generated at the lower class, that laboring mass that competed for jobs. > It was at this time that the descendants of the original Irish settlers, > most from Ulster and a majority were Protestant, sought ways to > distinguish themselves from the newcomers - the "shanty Irish" or bog > trotters. So the compound name came into being - that cant phrase, a > shibboleth, a mongrel absurdity, and even the Scotch-Irish Society of > America has been described as a humbug. > > But a good shot of Glenfiddich Ancient Reserve or even some 20 year old > Black Bush will do wonders and might lighten one up just a little bit. > That is the true meaning of Scotch-Irish. Myself, I prefer a pint of > Smiticks. > > j.j.carroll@earthlink.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

i apologise if i read your email, at 75 i thought i was reasonable bu now realise i am not, i am looking for a peter kyle married alice kilpatrick more than likely in a Presbyterian church in northern ireland, can you help me it's the pronti i can not' understand and of course the expense can be off putting, i have been trying for three years now, if you can help i would be grateful god bless liz Hamilton

Do you mean he married Elizabeth, if so I have found this one Record Type Civil Marriage Date of Marriage 21 Dec 1884 Groom Name james BULTITUDE Bride Name elizabeth HANVEY Church Belfast Roman Catholic Church Parish Belfast Urban 11 Civil District Belfast County Down Good luck Patricia -----Original Message----- From: irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-antrim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rick & Sandra McKay Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 2:09 PM To: IRL-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] HOFFMAN/MINNIS Do you happen to subscribe to emerald ancestors? Would you have time to look up one name-James Bultitude who married in Elizabeth in Down in 1884. MANY THANKS. Sandra in Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Williams" <jennywil@hotkey.net.au> To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 10:20 PM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] HOFFMAN/MINNIS > Many thank you's to you Heather. Your help is much appreciated, > Jenny in AUS > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <irishheather7@aol.co.uk> > To: <IRL-ANTRIM@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 5:24 PM > Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] HOFFMAN/MINNIS > > >> Hi Jenny >> >> I picked the following up from www.emeraldancestors.com which may be of >> use:- >> >> Record TypeCivil Marriage >> Date of Marriage23 Sep 1858 >> Groom NameJames HOFFMAN >> Bride NameAmelia MINNIS >> ChurchSaint Annes Church of Ireland >> ParishShankill >> Civil DistrictBelfast >> CountyAntrim >> >> >> You can order the certificate from the General Registry Office in Belfast >> (just google "GRONI") and it should have residence, fathers name and >> occupation if you need more details. >> >> Cheers >> Heather >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> Check out the new free AOL Email -- 2GB of storage and industry-leading >> spam and email virus protection. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mike Boyd, Family history tells us it was Belfast. We assume she was of the Presbyterian faith as she joined the A.R.P. church upon arrival in York County, South Carolina where many of her relations were settled. Story goes as follows: According to research, Mary Ann and husband James lived first in Scotland, moving to Belfast, Ireland, where James died leaving his widow and three small children. The widow buried her first husband in her yard which did not please the church officials of that day, and so religious harassment of the widow began. To escape this persecution, she prepared to leave her homeland and establish herself and her young children in the new land of America. She may have had relatives already in the United States. There it was that she and her sons set sail in 1785. James was born in 1780 and William and John Hosea between 1780 and 1785. It is believed they sailed on the ship Restoration, arriving at a port in South Carolina. Thank you. r/Steven Mitchell -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> > Steven > Where in County Antrim did she live. > > Which Church persecuted her? She mayhave gone on on of the "Church" sponsed > groups, like the Rev William Martin did in 1770's from Kellswater. > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 4:37 AM > Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] 1785 sailings from Antrim > > > > Trying to determine port or ship that our MaryAnn? Biggers may have > > departed from Antrim in 1785 after persecution by the Church after burying > > her husband James in their yard. She would departed with three very young > > sons. Family history says it was the ship Restoration to South Carolina, > > but, of course, 1785 ship records are lacking, if existant at all. > > Any thoughts would be sincerely appreciated. > > Thank you. > > r/Steven Mitchell, Naperville, IL, USA > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Searching for Barclay, Mary McAfee, Neil Laverty, Margaret Laverty, James McClusky, Mary from in or near Kilraghts, east of Ballymoney, County Aantrim Mary Barclay and Neil McAfee were married about 1800. Children: Margaret, Martha, Mary, Ellen. Margaret McAfee married James Laverty about 1825. She emigrated with her children James, Robert and Catherine in 1849. James Laverty (son of Margaret) married Mary McClusky in USA early 1850's. All were Catholic. Any information would be appreciated. ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

Steven, Have a search of the Belfast Newsletter at the University of Louisiana web site http://www.ucs.louisiana.edu/bnl/index.html Enter keyword Restoration in the search page. There are two pages of results. Don't forget to read the results interpretation. By the way, there were folk named BIGGERT in the Ballymoney area of County Antrim in 1766. Best regards Norm ----- Original Message ----- To: <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 6:37 PM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] 1785 sailings from Antrim > Trying to determine port or ship that our MaryAnn? Biggers may have > departed from Antrim in 1785 after persecution by the Church after burying > her husband James in their yard. She would departed with three very young > sons. Family history says it was the ship Restoration to South Carolina, > but, of course, 1785 ship records are lacking, if existant at all. > Any thoughts would be sincerely appreciated. > Thank you. > r/Steven Mitchell, Naperville, IL, USA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Nice site. Good idea. Pity about them stamps though. David "Ireland Genealogy Projects (IGP) has a new project. The project is an archives for Ireland. The idea is that we will put transcriptions of Public Domain (pre 1923) documents online. This will not replace our county projects - it will be an adjunct to them. Submissions and volunteers are very welcome. Submissions would be in text format. The project is called Ireland Genealogy Projects Archives You can see it at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlarchive/<http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Eirlarchive/> Thanks, Christina (We are also looking for File Managers. A little website experience is needed for that.)"

Trying to determine port or ship that our MaryAnn? Biggers may have departed from Antrim in 1785 after persecution by the Church after burying her husband James in their yard. She would departed with three very young sons. Family history says it was the ship Restoration to South Carolina, but, of course, 1785 ship records are lacking, if existant at all. Any thoughts would be sincerely appreciated. Thank you. r/Steven Mitchell, Naperville, IL, USA

Mike, I sent you an e-mail on the 9th regarding research in Ballymena/Ahoghill, did you receive it or did it go astray somewhere into the internet?{;-) Colin in Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Boyd To: irl-antrim@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 10:38 AM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Meaning of term for 1600's In the article Directory of Irish Family Research 2000, Tenants on the estates of the Earls of Antrim in the 17th century, Ian Montgomery, pp 80-81 The terms Esq. __ Esquire; Gent. - Gentleman; Yeo. Yeoman are used. Can anyone explain what each of these meant in the context of the 1600's please. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message