Hello Donna. There is a Marriage of a William Eaton and Rachael Kerr. 02 Jan.1878,Manhatten,New York,New York. On Family Search,IGI that indicates that William was born in Ballymoney ,,, Ireland. This could be a starting location for your Irish Research, You could try to obtain a copy of this Marriage Certificate to see if any more family details are listed. Regards Bill Hume.

Hello Listers. I was interested in the comments regarding taverns in County Antrim. Does anybody know any taverns/inns ca 1800, or even the 18th c, run by McCormicks, McNeals/McNeils, McDowells? Jane **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

>From: "Barbara Holmes" <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Pubs/Taverns/Inns >To: [email protected] >I too have a pub photo I've been trying to find a location on "Rustic -William Mulvenna - Bar" >My 3rd great-grandmother was Elizabeth Mulvenna Hunter from the Carnlough section of Antrim. Could there be a business or some other directory available online to search for this pub? It might not even be in Ireland, could be in Brooklyn where her grandson came in the mid/late 1800's. Hi Barbara, You might try the fully searchable Brooklyn Eagle Newspaper 1841-1902 database online, re: your MULVENNAs: http://www.brooklynpubliclibrary.org/eagle/ Good luck! Cari Thomas

Hi Barbara The 1888 Book of Antrim does not show any Mulvennas or Hunters as 'spirit retailers' in Carnlough. Under 'Farmers and Residents' there are Neal Hunter, senior & jr of Harphall and James Mulvenna, Ballyvaddy and Jno Mulvenna, Dromorne. The 1889-90 Brooklyn directories show no Mulvennas. There are many Mulvaney/Mulvanys, which is probably a variation of Mulvenna. There are many Hunters and some Elizabeth Hunters listed as widows of Jos, etc. Do you have a Brooklyn address for your folks? What first names would be listed ? Who was Elizabeth's husband ? The Brooklyn Public Library has a searchable database of the Brooklyn Eagle newspaper, 1840s - 1902 if you want to check it out. I found a Hutton who was fined for selling "spirits" on a Sunday (along with a lot of other folks). There was a William Mulvenna who was the president of Brooklyn carpenters union in 1864. Can you guess the time frame of the photo from the style of clothing in the picture ? Good luck Rick Hutton ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -------Original Message------- From: Barbara Holmes Date: 3/12/2008 8:41:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Pubs/Taverns/Inns I too have a pub photo I've been trying to find a location on "Rustic - William Mulvenna - Bar" My 3rd great-grandmother was Elizabeth Mulvenna Hunter from the Carnlough section of Antrim. Could there be a business or some other directory available online to search for this pub? It might not even be in Ireland, could be in Brooklyn where her grandson came in the mid/late 1800's. Suggestions? As always, a grand group of folks here. Best to all... Barbara On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Linda Holley <[email protected]> wrote: > Does anyone know if there might have been a tavern, pub, or inn with the > name of Black Horse Tavern in Co. Antrim or Co. Down in the early 1800's? > Sometime between 1800 - 1817. > > Thank you, > > Linda Holley

I too have a pub photo I've been trying to find a location on "Rustic - William Mulvenna - Bar" My 3rd great-grandmother was Elizabeth Mulvenna Hunter from the Carnlough section of Antrim. Could there be a business or some other directory available online to search for this pub? It might not even be in Ireland, could be in Brooklyn where her grandson came in the mid/late 1800's. Suggestions? As always, a grand group of folks here. Best to all... Barbara On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Linda Holley <[email protected]> wrote: > Does anyone know if there might have been a tavern, pub, or inn with the > name of Black Horse Tavern in Co. Antrim or Co. Down in the early 1800's? > Sometime between 1800 - 1817. > > Thank you, > > Linda Holley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi I wonder if anyone can help find information on my family?? My grandmother Mary Kearney and her sister Catherine Kearney were baptised in St Mary's RC church, Chapel Lane, Belfast Antrim. Mary Kearney was on 3 weeks old when she was baptised on 7/12/1878 her sister Catherine was baptised on 27/12/1880 but I don't know how old she was but think it would be just a few weeks old just like her sister. Their parents were Nicholas Kearney and Margaret Kennedy, they were married in the same church on 28/5/1875. The father and mother of Nicholas were Nicholas Kearney and Margaret. Margaret Kennedy's parents were James Kennedy and Mary. No ages were given for the married couple and I couldn't find anything that would give me any idea how old they were when they married. I also don't know their mothers maiden names as they are not listed on the marriage details. I have been unable to find any census details or anything on this family, any help would be very much appreciated, thank you. Betty

Hi List I am looking to further my research on David MARSHALL born about 1824 possibly in Carnmoney Antrim and his wife Margaret THOMSON born about 1823 also possibly in Carnmoney.The couple married in possibly Carnmoney about 1842/43 and in June 1843 had a daughter Elizabeth/Eliza and in about 1845 a son James. The family moved to Scotland after the birth of James in 1845 but before the birth of their next child John in 1849. It seems likely that they moved to Milton Stirlingshire where John was born. Is there anyone researching these names or could be of help. Allan New Zealand

I only copied what I was given and it came up. Adele Pentony-Graham Carterton District Early Settlers Researcher Carterton Cemetery Clareville Taphophile Group

This was on a NEW ZEALAND site tonight... worth sharing, as a few days ago someone was looking for a town/village in Co. Antrim.. http://www.irishancestries.com/database/database-placenames-search.php Hope it helps one and all!! Adele Pentony-Graham Carterton District Early Settlers Researcher Carterton Cemetery Clareville Taphophile Group

"placenames" should be singular as in: http://www.irishancestries.com/database/database-placename-search.php On Mar 9, 2008, at 5:27 AM, Adele wrote: > This was on a NEW ZEALAND site tonight... worth sharing, as a few > days ago someone was looking for a town/village in Co. Antrim.. > > http://www.irishancestries.com/database/database-placenames- > search.php Hope it helps one and all!! > > > Adele Pentony-Graham > Carterton District Early Settlers Researcher > Carterton Cemetery Clareville Taphophile Group > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >

unsubscribe. Thank you... ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 12:13 AM Subject: IRL-ANTRIM Digest, Vol 3, Issue 76 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Military Service (Linda Holley) > 2. Wigdenton (Janet McCrosky) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:26:56 +0000 > From: [email protected] (Linda Holley) > Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Military Service > To: [email protected] (County Down Mailing List), > [email protected] (Co. Antrim, N. Ireland) > Message-ID: > <030520[email protected]comcast.net> > > > Were there mandatory requirements for some type of military service in the > early 1800's in Ulster? > > Linda > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:45:39 -0500 > From: "Janet McCrosky" <[email protected]> > Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Wigdenton > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > If I'm repeating myself - forgive me. Is there - or was there in the > past - a Wigdenton in Co. Antrim, Ireland? > Janet > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-ANTRIM list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the IRL-ANTRIM mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-ANTRIM Digest, Vol 3, Issue 76 > ***************************************** > >

Were there mandatory requirements for some type of military service in the early 1800's in Ulster? Linda

If I'm repeating myself - forgive me. Is there - or was there in the past - a Wigdenton in Co. Antrim, Ireland? Janet

In a message dated 3/4/2008 12:30:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Was wondering if anybody is working on the surname McCormick in the mid 1700s. Looking for those McCormick's who lived in Giant's Causeway. Thank in advance, Jane I have a John McCormick who married Sarah Ferguson, both of whom died before 1829. I know of two children: Mary Ann (b. 13 Dec 1775) and David. I think they lived in Co. Down, or Antrim. My Co. Antrim family near the Giant's Causeway was Thomsom. Mary Ann married John Patton who died in Warren Co. OH in 1818. David later lived in Indiana, but I don't know where. I have never been able to trace John McCormick. If any of this is familiar, please let me know. Linda B. **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

Jane: The McCormicks I have worked on were a little bit later. Charles McCormick married Catherine Dellett in the 1840s in County Antrim. Her obituary said she was born near the Giant's Causeway. They were Roman Catholic in the US. However, their eldest son was Alexander, which was an unexpected name usage. Charles emigrated about 1850. Catherine and the surviving children came a few years later. They lived in London, Madison County, Ohio, and then in Currie and Slayton, both in Murray County, Minnesota. I am in the throes of moving, so I can't dig out more information right now. Will contact you later. --Ida Skarson McCormick, [email protected], Seattle At 09:28 AM 3/4/2008, [email protected] wrote: >Was wondering if anybody is working on the surname McCormick in the mid >1700s. Looking for those McCormick's who lived in Giant's >Causeway. Thank in >advance, Jane

Does anyone know if there is a mailing list that I could join that specializes with Belfast surnames and info. If there is one I seem unable to locate it. Thanks so much, Linda

Do anybody know of a Presbyterian church that was operating in or near Giant's Causeway in the mid 1700s. Looking for old records of same. Thanks Jane **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

Was wondering if anybody is working on the surname McCormick in the mid 1700s. Looking for those McCormick's who lived in Giant's Causeway. Thank in advance, Jane **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

Clifford, Great given name you've got there! Yes, Y-DNA tests only the paternal (male) line. Mt-DNA (mitochondrial) tests only the maternal (female) line. There is no crossover in either one. As for costs, the 37-markers test cost can be found on the FTDNA site along with all of the other tests. My preference is to go for the 37-markers test initially. You can always upgrade to the 67-markers test later. My only hangup for not using the 67-markers test right now is that the data base is too small to be of much value. The flip side of the coin is that they need more statistics, so if you've got the money join in and help build the data base so that it can become useful. Cliff. "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clifford Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Family Tree DNA test > Cliff > > I looked at all the info on the DNA projects in Family Tree. My > understanding is that if I get tested the Y-DNA will go back thru my > father, > his father, his father and so on. Is the same true for my Mother ie her > mother, her mother, her mother etc. > I have traced my Male line to my third great grandfather(b. abt.1745) who > lived in PA in 1774 and who spoke German. > Ditto my Maternal Line to the fourth great grandmother (b. abt. 1746) who > lived in VA and was apparently French. > If I get a 67 marker test will they follow those Lines? > My mother's paternal line was Irish -- Clare and Kerry??. > My father's mother's lines were Irish -- Antrim?? and Waterford??. > > Thanks > Clifford Smith > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff. Johnston > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:28 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Family Tree DNA test > > Here's a link with all of the information that you'll need... > > http://www.familytreedna.com/ > > > Cliff. Johnston > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see;" > from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fenwick Ray" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 7:31 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Family Tree DNA test > > >> nobody has mentioned the cost for a DNA test - I'd like to get one done >> but I was waiting for it to be more cost effective - anyone know what >> are the current rates? And where is the best place to go? Will any DNA >> testing place understand the family history requirement - i.e. are they >> all presented in the same manner? Many thanks >> >> >> regards >> >> Ray >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff. Johnston >> Sent: 20 February 2008 4:32 pm >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Family Tree DNA test >> >> A 12-markers test gives very little information beyond the broad group >> of people that you belong to, ie: Celtic, Viking, Arab, etc... The >> 25-markers test, in my opinion, is of limited value too. I believe that >> at least one major testing service has stopped offering it. The >> 37-markers test is really where it is at for the price. There is a >> 67-markers test, but as of now the data base is too small for it to be >> of much value to most people. >> It is of value to some where enough participants of a specific name have >> participated, but for most of us it is a work in progress. The catch-22 >> is that it is of limited value to most because of the small data base, >> but if people avoid it for this reason then the data base will never get >> to the size where it will be of true value to most. As for me, I'm >> waiting. I can't see where it's going to help me at all at this point. >> I belong to a very small pool of Johnston/es - there are only 8 or 9 of >> us who match (Danish Vikings), and we really need to lower that number >> because at least 2 are from known grandchildren who were tested by the >> grandfather. At this point for us 67-markers won't do us much good. >> >> I strongly recommend the 37-markers test. >> >> Cliff. Johnston >> "May the best you've ever seen, >> Be the worst you'll ever see;" >> from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:04 AM >> Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Family Tree DNA test >> >> >>> >>> Hi Antrim-Listers-- >>> At my urging, my brother had a 12-marker Y-DNA test done through >> Family >>> Tree DNA as part of the GRIMES-surname list project, but I don't think >> the >>> results indicated?what geographical location?the DNA matches would >> have >>> come from. Is that kind of information only available if you have the >>> 25-marker or 37-marker tests? If it is available, how do I get that >>> information? >>> Mary Ann Grimes Carey >>> Antrim surnames: BLACK, McKENTY/McKINTY, McNEAL/McNEIL/McNEILL, MOONEY >> >>> (and probably lots of others!) >>> >>> >> ________________________________________________________________________ >>> More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - >>> http://webmail.aol.com >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cliff I looked at all the info on the DNA projects in Family Tree. My understanding is that if I get tested the Y-DNA will go back thru my father, his father, his father and so on. Is the same true for my Mother ie her mother, her mother, her mother etc. I have traced my Male line to my third great grandfather(b. abt.1745) who lived in PA in 1774 and who spoke German. Ditto my Maternal Line to the fourth great grandmother (b. abt. 1746) who lived in VA and was apparently French. If I get a 67 marker test will they follow those Lines? My mother's paternal line was Irish -- Clare and Kerry??. My father's mother's lines were Irish -- Antrim?? and Waterford??. Thanks Clifford Smith -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff. Johnston Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Family Tree DNA test Here's a link with all of the information that you'll need... http://www.familytreedna.com/ Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fenwick Ray" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 7:31 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Family Tree DNA test > nobody has mentioned the cost for a DNA test - I'd like to get one done > but I was waiting for it to be more cost effective - anyone know what > are the current rates? And where is the best place to go? Will any DNA > testing place understand the family history requirement - i.e. are they > all presented in the same manner? Many thanks > > > regards > > Ray > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff. Johnston > Sent: 20 February 2008 4:32 pm > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Family Tree DNA test > > A 12-markers test gives very little information beyond the broad group > of people that you belong to, ie: Celtic, Viking, Arab, etc... The > 25-markers test, in my opinion, is of limited value too. I believe that > at least one major testing service has stopped offering it. The > 37-markers test is really where it is at for the price. There is a > 67-markers test, but as of now the data base is too small for it to be > of much value to most people. > It is of value to some where enough participants of a specific name have > participated, but for most of us it is a work in progress. The catch-22 > is that it is of limited value to most because of the small data base, > but if people avoid it for this reason then the data base will never get > to the size where it will be of true value to most. As for me, I'm > waiting. I can't see where it's going to help me at all at this point. > I belong to a very small pool of Johnston/es - there are only 8 or 9 of > us who match (Danish Vikings), and we really need to lower that number > because at least 2 are from known grandchildren who were tested by the > grandfather. At this point for us 67-markers won't do us much good. > > I strongly recommend the 37-markers test. > > Cliff. Johnston > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see;" > from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:04 AM > Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Family Tree DNA test > > >> >> Hi Antrim-Listers-- >> At my urging, my brother had a 12-marker Y-DNA test done through > Family >> Tree DNA as part of the GRIMES-surname list project, but I don't think > the >> results indicated?what geographical location?the DNA matches would > have >> come from. Is that kind of information only available if you have the >> 25-marker or 37-marker tests? If it is available, how do I get that >> information? >> Mary Ann Grimes Carey >> Antrim surnames: BLACK, McKENTY/McKINTY, McNEAL/McNEIL/McNEILL, MOONEY > >> (and probably lots of others!) >> >> > ________________________________________________________________________ >> More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - >> http://webmail.aol.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message