Marie, I "do" the Ches(t)nut families of North Antrim. No marriage of Hanna Chesnut with James Fleming in my files. Not surprising given the lack of records from the early 1800s. The flax growers' bounty list of 1796 has just one Fleming in County Antrim. John Fleming in Racavan Parish.The flax growers' list is a very small precentage of the actual population. Racavan is quite a bit south of Ballycastle. The agricultural "census" of 1803 lists: Edward Fleming of Islandboy townland in Grange of Drumtullagh. Drumtullagh is a small distance south of Ballycastle and is home to many Chestnut families - including one of my lots. The only village in Drumtullagh is Mosside. I have put the North County Antrim Flemings given as Titheable persons in the Tithe Applotments of 1823-38 at the end. Again, this list is far from complete. There are also Chestnut families in both Ballyrashane and Ballymoney Parishes. I remember Fleming families who used to live near the harbour at Portrush. I think I have photographs of some of them. The joys of Irish genealogy! Norman Index to Tithe Applotment Books, 1823-1838 Fleming, Andrew Parish : Finvoy, Townland : Moneycannon Fleming, Harey Parish : Rasharkin, Townland : Belaughey Fleming, Hugh Parish : Finvoy, Townland : Vow Lower Fleming, James Parish : Rasharkin, Townland : Moneylack Fleming, Jno. Parish : Ballymoney, Townland : Garryduff Fleming, Robt. Parish : Finvoy, Townland : Madydoo Fleming, Robt. Parish : Rasharkin, Townland : Ballydonnelly Flemming, Jas. Parish : Ballyrashane, Townland : Lisrisk Flemming, Thomas Parish : Finvoy, Townland : Moneycannon ---------------------------------------- Marie wrote: > Looking for information on Fleming (Flemming) family from Ballycastle, > Antrim. > > James Fleming born June 9, 1805. ( He has Ballycastle written on his > tombstone) > James' wife was Hannah Chestnut (Chessnut) born 1807

I am new to this list and hoping someone can give me a hand with my illusive Irish family Patrick O'Kane b1853 County Antrim Ireland (Occupation Cooper journeyman) and Margaret McKellar b1858 Greenock Scotland. Patrick O'Kane b1819 County Antrim (Occupation Sugarhouse Labourer) married to Margaret McGugan b1825 Ireland. Patrick O'Kane b c1790 ?County Antrim. (Occupation Basket maker) The family moved to Scotland approx 1875 and then to Liverpool England. The certificates and census records I have only give County Antrim Ireland. No townland... Hence the request for HELP! I realise most of the records were destroyed but I am hopeful of someone recognising the family Appreciate any help I can get Marg

Hi Al Many thanks for the comments! I have tried to contact the ireAtlas people to give them a list of the issues I have found but they have never responded - I'm not sure if it is still being maintained, it would be a great pity if it isn't? Proni is actually the worst of the three as the Townland lists are missing a vast number of entries. I've tried contacting them too, without success. I haven't looked in the last month or two, but there were a number of issues still there after the site was updated. They appear to have suffered from some sort of software 'crash' as there are patterns: - most townlands starting from about "Tu" onwards are missing - in general all but one of groups of townlands with the same name, but split into upper, middle, lower or east, west etc is missing - there are random errors in addition to these - the old lists of Baronies, PLUs etc had many omissions, but these seem to have been corrected with the new Proni website (I haven't done a careful check and so care is needed) - the old townland maps which had vanished last time I looked were all over the place, in many the numbering on the map bears no relationship to the numbering in the list, in others the maps don't match the parishes etc. I totally agree with your comments re accuracy - Irish research is hard enough without misleading info being out there. Kind Regards Murray Christchurch New Zealand Visit us at KiwiCelts.com <http://kiwicelts.com> for ... * The only comprehensive list and map of New Zealand Cemeteries <http://fhr.kiwicelts.com/Cemeteries/NZ_Cemetery_Map.html> * Interactive Administrative District map of Ireland <http://ireland.kiwicelts.com/irishMap/ireMap.html> * Our Family History Al Valentine wrote: > All of us everywhere owe you a debt of extreme gratitude for all your hard > work. Errors in PRONI are dangerous as it should be as near perfect as man > can make it, so please share your corrections with them as I think those > would be welcomed. Yours is a great website. > Three cheers at least > Al Valentine > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Murray" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:08 PM > Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Map update > > > >> I meant to note in my original email that you may notice some >> differences between my database of townlands and parishes and those in >> ireAtlas, irish Ancestors and PRONI. >> >> PRONI differs, as my data and the first 2 of these databases are based >> on the "Index to the Townlands and Towns,Parishes and Baronies of >> Ireland, 1851" which is the index for the 1851 census whereas PRONI, >> despite claims on their website that it is also based on the 1851 >> census, is actually based on definitions that Griffith used for the >> valuation carried out in the 1860s, which are significantly different in >> some places from the census. >> >> An example of a difference is that 1860s and later parishes of Ahoghill, >> Craigs and Portglenone were part of Ahoghill Civil Parish in 1851. >> There are many such differences, more in Antrim than Derry and many more >> again in Down. These include the addition and deletion of both townlands >> and parishes as well as townlands being swapped around parishes. Where I >> have seen these differences, I have included a note which can be seen in >> the popup window you get by clicking on the icons. The census also >> notes a number of other changes which must have occurred just prior to >> the census, these are also noted. >> >> My database also differs from the ireAtlas and irish Ancestors databases >> as both of these contain a number of errors. I have had the luxury of >> being able to double check these databases against each other and to use >> the original census book to arbitrate as to which is correct. >> >> I have found that these two databases contain about 2-3% errors in all >> counties I have looked at so far, ranging from trivial typos to major >> errors where townlands are missing or placed in the wrong parish / >> county - usually as the transcriber crossed a line as they entered the >> data and got the info mixed up with the previous or next entry. The >> original is 1000 pages of very small and often indistinct print and I >> have enormous respect for those who painstakingly transcribed it for >> ireAtlas and irish Ancestors! >> >> As a result however, mine is closer to the original 1851 census data but >> I make no claims that it is perfect! Please let me know if you do spot >> an error :>). >> >> As a researcher of Ireland, it is important to understand that the >> parishes and townlands regularly changed and that there is no 'right' or >> 'wrong' definition. As a result, you need to be aware that, for example, >> the townland you have found in say Griffith in the early 1860s may or >> may not have existed in 1851or may have been part of a different parish. >> The parish it was part of may not even have been the adjacent one, but >> one two or three removed! This probably sounds confusing - it is - but >> it is a fact of life that you need to understand! >> >> As I have mentioned, I feel that the site could be improved to make it >> easier to use and so if you have any bright ideas, please let me know! >> -- >> >> Kind Regards >> >> Murray >> Christchurch >> New Zealand >> >> Visit us at KiwiCelts.com <http://kiwicelts.com> for ... >> >> * The only comprehensive list and map of New Zealand Cemeteries >> <http://fhr.kiwicelts.com/Cemeteries/NZ_Cemetery_Map.html> >> * Interactive Administrative District map of Ireland >> <http://ireland.kiwicelts.com/irishMap/ireMap.html> >> * Our Family History >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

There's a Fleming family east of Ballycastle in Griffith's Valuation in 1861: Fleming, Edward County : Antrim Parish : Culfeightrin Location : Drumnakeel A Fleming family used to have an off-licence in Ballycastle in Ann Street about 20 years ago; I think they lived in Quay Road. Regards Nevin _NALIL - North Antrim Local Interest List In a message dated 04/05/2008 14:10:43 GMT Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: James Fleming born June 9, 1805. ( He has Ballycastle written on his tombstone) _ (http://nalil.blogspot.com/)

Looking for information on Fleming (Flemming) family from Ballycastle, Antrim. James Fleming born June 9, 1805. ( He has Ballycastle written on his tombstone) James' wife was Hannah Chestnut (Chessnut) born 1807 Don't know if they were married in Ireland or Pennsylvania. James emigrated to America before 1835 birth of first son, Robert Fleming, but no other Flemings found that may have followed him. I did find this a while back and I am thinking that the following might be the family in keeping with Irish naming patterns. And this Robert might be a younger brother to James: 1851 census return for County Antrim, Rasharkin Parish, Moneyleck townland has this info: Robert Fleming, age 35, unmarried Sister- Elizabeth Fleming, age 30, unmarried Visitor- Susan Mooney, age 64, widow married 1826 Absent: brother James Fleming, age 44, in America (this might be my James) Absent: brother William Fleming, age 42, in America This is the only information I have come up with after years of searching. Family was Catholic. I am hoping someone might have parish, cemetery or tithe records for these Flemings that would help me find out more about them. They came to the United States before the famine and civil registration, so church or cemetery records might be my only lead. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Marie **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)

It is too early for the birth registrations so the only hope would be church records. It depends on whether they really meant Ballymena or just the area of Ballymena. There were Kenneys in Ballyhutherland, north of Ballymena. They likely went to either Clough or Killymurris to church. The Clough records are burned for that time period. There is a film at PRONI for Killymurris and I will be there next week. I will be doing the Killymurris film so will watch for Kenney - I don't remember the time span for the Killymurris film. >From Killymurris cemetery: 1887 In memory of David Kenny, Carnlea, who died 1st May 1878, aged 59 years. Also his wife Margaret, who died 9th Feb. 1907, aged 85 years. Also their daughter Elizabeth, who died 28th Nov 1907, aged 53 years. Also their son John, who died 10th Sep 1914, aged 65 years. Erected by James Kenny of Cornark. In memory of his daughter Sarah Jane who departed this life 3rd Octr 1873, aged 15 years. In loving memory of my dear parents William Kenny, died 6th March 1979. Arah Annie, died 11th August 1981. Also my dear grandmother Mary Law, died 8th May 1945. Also my dear husband John Marrs, died 22nd May 1990. Loved and remembered. Kenny. Cherished memories of a dear wife, devoted mother and grandmother Constance (Connie) died 23rd June 1988, aged 67 years, Worthy of Everlasting Remebrance. In Ballyhutherland in the Griffiths there is a James, Archibald and Alexander Kenney. James Kenney's daughter Mary Ann married Wilson Stevenson - which is my interest in the Kenny's - I have been trying to put together who his ancestors are. I think Alexander Kenney is her brother. Mary Ann died in 1871 (b. 1842) and is buried in Clough cemetery. I have a partial transcription of Clough cemetery but there are no Kenneys listed. There are no burial records for Killymurris except the transcription of the tombstones. The burial records for Clough, although they are not terribly old, are at the moment in the keeping of the Borough Council in Ballymena. Wilson Stevenson later married Jane Hamill and lived in Carnlea. He is also buried at Clough. >From the Griffiths valuation - about 1862: Alexander Kenny Antrim, Kirkinriola, Townparks/(Farm-Lodge) Alexander Kenny Antrim, Kirkinriola, Townparks/T/Ballymena/Broughshane Street David Kenny Antrim, Kirkinriola, Carnlea David Kenny Antrim, Kirkinriola, Clogher James Kenny Antrim, Kirkinriola, Clogher Robert Kenny Antrim, Kirkinriola, Ballygarvey Robert, Jr. Kenny Antrim, Kirkinriola, Ballygarvey Thomas Kenny Antrim, Kirkinriola, Dernaveagh Anne Mc Kenny Antrim, Kirkinriola, Ballygarvey Anne Mc Kenny Antrim, Kirkinriola, Drumfin Bernard Mc Kenny Antrim, Kirkinriola, Townparks/T/Ballymena/Ballymoney Street David Mc Kenny Antrim, Kirkinriola, Townparks/T/Ballymena/John Street David Kenny Antrim, Craigs, Kildowney John Kenny Antrim, Craigs, Ballyclosh John Kenny Antrim, Craigs, Craigs John Kenny Antrim, Craigs, Cullybackey Eliza Mc Kenny Antrim, Craigs, Dunnygarran Probably lots of Kenney information that is of no use to you but you never know. Anne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Doug & Jan Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 5:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] GILLESPIE/KENNEY Good Morning List. I have rejoined after a break.....hoping that someone will recognize the following I have found another child for my Robert GILLESPIE.. here is the Family so Far.. Robert GILLESPIE married Elizabeth KENNEY (*KENNY) ???? Children Rose Ann born June 1840 Esther born May 1845 ************birth dates taken from death certificates.. >From Esther's marriage notice it states that her Father was living in Ballymena in 1867 Also from Marriage and death notices the Girls were born in Ballymena as well.... Rose Ann married Alexander GREER in Queensland in Jan. 1865 and Esther was a witness.... WHEN they arrived in Australia is yet unknown .....having only lately found that Esther had a Sister and that she married in Qld. in 1865 narrows down the search a little.. Alexander GREER was also born in Antrim..about 1838 son of John GREER and Esther WEAR. again the year of birth is taken from ages at marriage and death... Esther GILLESPIE married Hugh KELLY in Qld in 1867 Hugh KELLY was born 1841 in County Amagh son of William KELLY and Sarah WRAY or RAE.. Can SKS tell me who I can contact to check on the Births of the two GILLESPIE GIRLS ..and deaths of their parents.... Im sure there must be more siblings as well. TIA Jan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good Morning List. I have rejoined after a break.....hoping that someone will recognize the following I have found another child for my Robert GILLESPIE.. here is the Family so Far.. Robert GILLESPIE married Elizabeth KENNEY (*KENNY) ???? Children Rose Ann born June 1840 Esther born May 1845 ************birth dates taken from death certificates.. >From Esther's marriage notice it states that her Father was living in Ballymena in 1867 Also from Marriage and death notices the Girls were born in Ballymena as well.... Rose Ann married Alexander GREER in Queensland in Jan. 1865 and Esther was a witness.... WHEN they arrived in Australia is yet unknown .....having only lately found that Esther had a Sister and that she married in Qld. in 1865 narrows down the search a little.. Alexander GREER was also born in Antrim..about 1838 son of John GREER and Esther WEAR. again the year of birth is taken from ages at marriage and death... Esther GILLESPIE married Hugh KELLY in Qld in 1867 Hugh KELLY was born 1841 in County Amagh son of William KELLY and Sarah WRAY or RAE.. Can SKS tell me who I can contact to check on the Births of the two GILLESPIE GIRLS ..and deaths of their parents.... Im sure there must be more siblings as well. TIA Jan

I meant to note in my original email that you may notice some differences between my database of townlands and parishes and those in ireAtlas, irish Ancestors and PRONI. PRONI differs, as my data and the first 2 of these databases are based on the "Index to the Townlands and Towns,Parishes and Baronies of Ireland, 1851" which is the index for the 1851 census whereas PRONI, despite claims on their website that it is also based on the 1851 census, is actually based on definitions that Griffith used for the valuation carried out in the 1860s, which are significantly different in some places from the census. An example of a difference is that 1860s and later parishes of Ahoghill, Craigs and Portglenone were part of Ahoghill Civil Parish in 1851. There are many such differences, more in Antrim than Derry and many more again in Down. These include the addition and deletion of both townlands and parishes as well as townlands being swapped around parishes. Where I have seen these differences, I have included a note which can be seen in the popup window you get by clicking on the icons. The census also notes a number of other changes which must have occurred just prior to the census, these are also noted. My database also differs from the ireAtlas and irish Ancestors databases as both of these contain a number of errors. I have had the luxury of being able to double check these databases against each other and to use the original census book to arbitrate as to which is correct. I have found that these two databases contain about 2-3% errors in all counties I have looked at so far, ranging from trivial typos to major errors where townlands are missing or placed in the wrong parish / county - usually as the transcriber crossed a line as they entered the data and got the info mixed up with the previous or next entry. The original is 1000 pages of very small and often indistinct print and I have enormous respect for those who painstakingly transcribed it for ireAtlas and irish Ancestors! As a result however, mine is closer to the original 1851 census data but I make no claims that it is perfect! Please let me know if you do spot an error :>). As a researcher of Ireland, it is important to understand that the parishes and townlands regularly changed and that there is no 'right' or 'wrong' definition. As a result, you need to be aware that, for example, the townland you have found in say Griffith in the early 1860s may or may not have existed in 1851or may have been part of a different parish. The parish it was part of may not even have been the adjacent one, but one two or three removed! This probably sounds confusing - it is - but it is a fact of life that you need to understand! As I have mentioned, I feel that the site could be improved to make it easier to use and so if you have any bright ideas, please let me know! -- Kind Regards Murray Christchurch New Zealand Visit us at KiwiCelts.com <http://kiwicelts.com> for ... * The only comprehensive list and map of New Zealand Cemeteries <http://fhr.kiwicelts.com/Cemeteries/NZ_Cemetery_Map.html> * Interactive Administrative District map of Ireland <http://ireland.kiwicelts.com/irishMap/ireMap.html> * Our Family History

All of us everywhere owe you a debt of extreme gratitude for all your hard work. Errors in PRONI are dangerous as it should be as near perfect as man can make it, so please share your corrections with them as I think those would be welcomed. Yours is a great website. Three cheers at least Al Valentine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Murray" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:08 PM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Map update > I meant to note in my original email that you may notice some > differences between my database of townlands and parishes and those in > ireAtlas, irish Ancestors and PRONI. > > PRONI differs, as my data and the first 2 of these databases are based > on the "Index to the Townlands and Towns,Parishes and Baronies of > Ireland, 1851" which is the index for the 1851 census whereas PRONI, > despite claims on their website that it is also based on the 1851 > census, is actually based on definitions that Griffith used for the > valuation carried out in the 1860s, which are significantly different in > some places from the census. > > An example of a difference is that 1860s and later parishes of Ahoghill, > Craigs and Portglenone were part of Ahoghill Civil Parish in 1851. > There are many such differences, more in Antrim than Derry and many more > again in Down. These include the addition and deletion of both townlands > and parishes as well as townlands being swapped around parishes. Where I > have seen these differences, I have included a note which can be seen in > the popup window you get by clicking on the icons. The census also > notes a number of other changes which must have occurred just prior to > the census, these are also noted. > > My database also differs from the ireAtlas and irish Ancestors databases > as both of these contain a number of errors. I have had the luxury of > being able to double check these databases against each other and to use > the original census book to arbitrate as to which is correct. > > I have found that these two databases contain about 2-3% errors in all > counties I have looked at so far, ranging from trivial typos to major > errors where townlands are missing or placed in the wrong parish / > county - usually as the transcriber crossed a line as they entered the > data and got the info mixed up with the previous or next entry. The > original is 1000 pages of very small and often indistinct print and I > have enormous respect for those who painstakingly transcribed it for > ireAtlas and irish Ancestors! > > As a result however, mine is closer to the original 1851 census data but > I make no claims that it is perfect! Please let me know if you do spot > an error :>). > > As a researcher of Ireland, it is important to understand that the > parishes and townlands regularly changed and that there is no 'right' or > 'wrong' definition. As a result, you need to be aware that, for example, > the townland you have found in say Griffith in the early 1860s may or > may not have existed in 1851or may have been part of a different parish. > The parish it was part of may not even have been the adjacent one, but > one two or three removed! This probably sounds confusing - it is - but > it is a fact of life that you need to understand! > > As I have mentioned, I feel that the site could be improved to make it > easier to use and so if you have any bright ideas, please let me know! > -- > > Kind Regards > > Murray > Christchurch > New Zealand > > Visit us at KiwiCelts.com <http://kiwicelts.com> for ... > > * The only comprehensive list and map of New Zealand Cemeteries > <http://fhr.kiwicelts.com/Cemeteries/NZ_Cemetery_Map.html> > * Interactive Administrative District map of Ireland > <http://ireland.kiwicelts.com/irishMap/ireMap.html> > * Our Family History > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have now updated my Interactive Administrative District map of Ireland <http://ireland.kiwicelts.com/irishMap/ireMap.html> web site to include all Townlands in Derry. The database now includes for both Derry and Antrim: County: Boundary map Baronies: All names plus markers showing the centre location Councils: All names and boundary maps PLUs: All names plus markers showing the centre location RC Parishes: All names and some boundary maps Civil Parishes: All names and boundary maps Townlands: All names and some boundary maps Use the help button at the top right to see how to use the site if necessary. To get the full list of sub-districts within a district use the "Click here for more information" at the bottom of the information window (which opens when you click on a map icon). All Parish boundaries are included for all Northern Ireland counties plus Limerick. Kind Regards Murray Christchurch New Zealand Visit us at KiwiCelts.com <http://kiwicelts.com> for ... * The only comprehensive list and map of New Zealand Cemeteries <http://fhr.kiwicelts.com/Cemeteries/NZ_Cemetery_Map.html> * Interactive Administrative District map of Ireland <http://ireland.kiwicelts.com/irishMap/ireMap.html> * Our Family History

Hi Al, Thank you I will see what I can find. Cheers Peter Melbourne Message: 2 Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:57:36 -0500 From: "Al Valentine" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] MARRIAGE-SARAH MULLAN 1811 To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Google Emerald Isle, It will give you an idea as you have a date. You can check UHF as well, as you have a date. Try both surnames independently and compare. There is also IHFS now available on line for Antrim and Down. You will have to lay down a bit of coin in any case, but if you check first to get the right one, it is worth it. Otherwise it is a researcher at much higher costs in the Parish Records, if they survived. Al Canada

Hi Listers, I am search for my GGG grandparents before Sarah (as Sarah LYNCHEY) was sentenced on the Isle of Man in 1833 I have found the marriage of a Sarah MULLAN in County Antrim in 1811. In 1811 she would have been about 26. I am seeking a marriage with LYNCHEY but do not wish to mortgage the house to pay the UHF their outrageous imposts. Is there any other way I can find the details of this marriage please?? Cheers Peter Melbourne

Google Emerald Isle, It will give you an idea as you have a date. You can check UHF as well, as you have a date. Try both surnames independently and compare. There is also IHFS now available on line for Antrim and Down. You will have to lay down a bit of coin in any case, but if you check first to get the right one, it is worth it. Otherwise it is a researcher at much higher costs in the Parish Records, if they survived. Al Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Strauss" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 3:11 AM Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] MARRIAGE-SARAH MULLAN 1811 > > > > > Hi Listers, > > > > I am search for my GGG grandparents before Sarah (as Sarah LYNCHEY) was > sentenced on the Isle of Man in 1833 I have found the marriage of a Sarah > MULLAN in County Antrim in 1811. > > > > In 1811 she would have been about 26. > > > > I am seeking a marriage with LYNCHEY but do not wish to mortgage the house > to pay the UHF their outrageous imposts. Is there any other way I can find > the details of this marriage please?? > > > > Cheers > > > > Peter > > Melbourne > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, Can anyone tell me if Culfeightrin Parish was in exsistance before Cushendun? I'm having difficuly finding folks born in the early part of the 1800s. My paternal grandfather is listed as being born in Cushendun, but those born before him are listed as Culfeightrin. Any help appreciated. Thank you. Mary Elizabeth RESEARCHING: McKERNAN/McKIERNAN in Co. Antrim and Co. Leitrim; McALLISTER in Co. Antrim; MULDOWNEY in Co. Kilkenny; and KEARNEY in Co. Louth ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

Hi Elaine Yes a modern Cistercian Monastery see http://www.bethlehem-abbey.org.uk/en/history.html. There is a good website with photos of the area: http://www.portglenone-cce.fsnet.co.uk/hist.html Kind Regards Murray Christchurch New Zealand Visit us at KiwiCelts.com <http://kiwicelts.com> for ... * The only comprehensive list and map of New Zealand Cemeteries <http://fhr.kiwicelts.com/Cemeteries/NZ_Cemetery_Map.html> * Interactive Administrative District map of Ireland <http://ireland.kiwicelts.com/irishMap/ireMap.html> * Our Family History Elaine Mattsen wrote: > My great grandmother came out to NZ and married mid 1870 in the Napier area > and on her shipping records is listed as Annie BEATTIE Derry > > On her employment record it states Portglenone and after some help from > listers I googled and found quite a lot re the history and beautiful walks > and forest and Isn't there a Abbey there as well? > Elaine > Hastings-NZ > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

My great grandmother came out to NZ and married mid 1870 in the Napier area and on her shipping records is listed as Annie BEATTIE Derry On her employment record it states Portglenone and after some help from listers I googled and found quite a lot re the history and beautiful walks and forest and Isn't there a Abbey there as well? Elaine Hastings-NZ

Hi everyone, I am trying to connect the dots with my Greer family that lived in Bracknamuckley Townland, Portglenone Parish, County Antrim that I can document from the 1860's till at least 1815 when my gr gr grandfather, Hugh Greer passed away. There were also other Greers in the area that I suspect are related. Many of them married and had christenings at the Portglenone First Presbyterian Church. I wrote to the church and recieved some information that I hadn't had before but was not able to find out about where they might have been buried. Would anyone know where a Presbyterian would most likely have been buried in the 1800's and early 1900's? My gr gr grandfather was married twice. First to Nancy Burns in 1863 and then to Elizabeth Stuart (sometimes spelled Stewart) in 1867 after Nancy passed away (possibly in childbirth). Nancy and Hugh had Mary in 1864 and William on 1 May 1866. I only know of Mary from her christening record. William's birth was registered in Ballymena. Elizabeth and Hugh had James on 1 May 1868, Robert Aickin on 13 Apr 1870 (who was first named John on his birth registration in Apr 1870 and then had name changed on 12 Aug 1870 to Robert Aickin), and John 23 Apr 1872. I know that James and Robert Aickin came to America in 1888 & 1889. I do not know what became of Mary, William and John Greer yet. There were also other Greers living in Bracknamuckley at the time of Griffith's Valuation. William Greer, Samuel Greer and Hugh Greer lived on adjacent properties which I believe had a corn mill. There was also a Jane Greer in Bracknamuckley as well as a Robert McGreer and a John McGreer in Bracknamuckley A James Greer and a Jane Greer are named as witnesses at Hugh's weddings. William and Hugh Greer both had fathers named John Greer, farmer on their wedding certificates so I believe they are brothers, (as did the Pastor at Portglenone First Presbyterian Church). Robert Aickin (my gr grandfather) settled in Madison, NJ and had 5 children: Hugh Parks, William Stewart, James Dudley, Dorothy Elizabeth and Robert Aickin, Jr. I saw many Greers listed in Townlands around Bracknamuckley. The Townlands I remember are Drumraw, Slievenagh, Gortfad, Killycoogan, Ballnafie, Garvaghy, Carmagrim and Craigs. There were many Greers in other townlands and also different parishes and counties but I named the above as they seemed close to Bracknamuckley. I noted multiple John, James, William, Samuel, Alexander, and Hugh Greers. I wondered if they could have had more than one property or if there were this many Greers with the same given names. I am trying to figure out how they are connected (if they are connected). If anyone is also researching the Greer family I would love to compare notes if you are willing. If anyone knows of the family and thinks they can shed any light I welcome your input and/or your suggestions. And if anyone knows where any of these Greers are buried I would greatly appreciate your help in locating them. Thanks for reading this rather long message. I wanted to provide as much information as I could. Happy hunting, all... Debbie Greer Hennessey in NJ

Hi Rick While I'm sure that some would have travelled in to Ahoghill, it is my understanding that the local chapel for Portglenone was Aughnahoy which is just out of Portglenone along the road to Ahoghill. From both the records and gravestones, my family (Lynn, O'Kane, McCorley, Graffin) seemed to use Aughnahoy rather than Ahoghill even though they lived in the south of the parish in Casheltown and Kilcurry parishes and Ahoghill was probably the closer of the two. Aughnahoy came under St Mary's, Ahoghill (not to be confused with St Mary's, Portglenone which was built in about 1870/71) and it's records are part of the Ahoghill Parish records probably as until about the mid 1850s Ahoghill Civil Parish included Ahoghill, Portglenone and Craigs parishes. Kind Regards Murray Christchurch New Zealand Visit us at KiwiCelts.com <http://kiwicelts.com> for ... * The only comprehensive list and map of New Zealand Cemeteries <http://fhr.kiwicelts.com/Cemeteries/NZ_Cemetery_Map.html> * Interactive Administrative District map of Ireland <http://ireland.kiwicelts.com/irishMap/ireMap.html> * Our Family History The Huttons wrote: > Hi Jane > > Prior to the mid 1860s, many Portglenone Catholic folks > > attended St Marys RC Chapel in Ahoghill, Ahoghill Parish, > > Co Antrim which is the parish just to the east of > > Portglenone Parish. > > > > Rick Hutton > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > From: Jane Sullivan > > > > > > Would these places have RC churches?? > > > > > > > > > > Would anyone know if there is a RIC > > barracks nearby now, or back in 1854 - 1857? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jane > > > > Liewah Station > > Moulamein > > nsw 2733 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] > > Sent: Friday, 11 April 2008 6:35 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Does anyone know where/what this place is? - > > Port/Fort Gleno... > > > > Portglenone on the map > > > > _http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?lat=54.873&Lon=-6.4744&scale=50000&I > > > co > > n=x_ > > (http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?lat=54.873&Lon=-6.4744&scale=50000&I > > > con=x) > > > > There are two James Ennis references in the parish of Portglenone in 1861 > > at > > the time of Griffith's Valuation. > > > > Ennis, James County : Antrim > > Parish : Portglenone > > Location : Garvaghy > > > > Ennis, James County : Antrim > > Parish : Portglenone > > Location : Mullinsallagh > > > > Regards > > Nevin > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi, You have now succeeded in confusing me. If my ancestors lived at one of two place (Mullinsallagh & Garvaghy) where would they have worshipped? Assuming that these two possibilities are my ancestors, of course!! Jane Liewah Station Moulamein nsw 2733 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Murray Sent: Monday, 14 April 2008 12:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Portglenone RC folks Hi Rick While I'm sure that some would have travelled in to Ahoghill, it is my understanding that the local chapel for Portglenone was Aughnahoy which is just out of Portglenone along the road to Ahoghill. From both the records and gravestones, my family (Lynn, O'Kane, McCorley, Graffin) seemed to use Aughnahoy rather than Ahoghill even though they lived in the south of the parish in Casheltown and Kilcurry parishes and Ahoghill was probably the closer of the two. Aughnahoy came under St Mary's, Ahoghill (not to be confused with St Mary's, Portglenone which was built in about 1870/71) and it's records are part of the Ahoghill Parish records probably as until about the mid 1850s Ahoghill Civil Parish included Ahoghill, Portglenone and Craigs parishes. Kind Regards Murray Christchurch New Zealand Visit us at KiwiCelts.com <http://kiwicelts.com> for ... * The only comprehensive list and map of New Zealand Cemeteries <http://fhr.kiwicelts.com/Cemeteries/NZ_Cemetery_Map.html> * Interactive Administrative District map of Ireland <http://ireland.kiwicelts.com/irishMap/ireMap.html> * Our Family History The Huttons wrote: > Hi Jane > > Prior to the mid 1860s, many Portglenone Catholic folks > > attended St Marys RC Chapel in Ahoghill, Ahoghill Parish, > > Co Antrim which is the parish just to the east of > > Portglenone Parish. > > > > Rick Hutton > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > From: Jane Sullivan > > > > > > Would these places have RC churches?? > > > > > > > > > > Would anyone know if there is a RIC > > barracks nearby now, or back in 1854 - 1857? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jane > > > > Liewah Station > > Moulamein > > nsw 2733 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] > > Sent: Friday, 11 April 2008 6:35 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Does anyone know where/what this place is? - > > Port/Fort Gleno... > > > > Portglenone on the map > > > > _http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?lat=54.873&Lon=-6.4744&scale=50000&I > > > co > > n=x_ > > (http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?lat=54.873&Lon=-6.4744&scale=50000&I > > > con=x) > > > > There are two James Ennis references in the parish of Portglenone in 1861 > > at > > the time of Griffith's Valuation. > > > > Ennis, James County : Antrim > > Parish : Portglenone > > Location : Garvaghy > > > > Ennis, James County : Antrim > > Parish : Portglenone > > Location : Mullinsallagh > > > > Regards > > Nevin > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Rick, Thanks for the info. Maybe my Ennis' attended that church. I am assuming RC as all of the children that died here in Australia were buried as Catholics, as was the mother (Charlotte Ennis) when she died. Thanks again. Jane Liewah Station Moulamein nsw 2733 AUSTRALIA -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of The Huttons Sent: Monday, 14 April 2008 5:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Portglenone RC folks Hi Jane Prior to the mid 1860s, many Portglenone Catholic folks attended St Marys RC Chapel in Ahoghill, Ahoghill Parish, Co Antrim which is the parish just to the east of Portglenone Parish. Rick Hutton ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -------Original Message------- From: Jane Sullivan Would these places have RC churches?? Would anyone know if there is a RIC barracks nearby now, or back in 1854 - 1857? Jane Liewah Station Moulamein nsw 2733 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, 11 April 2008 6:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Does anyone know where/what this place is? - Port/Fort Gleno... Portglenone on the map _http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?lat=54.873&Lon=-6.4744&scale=50000&I co n=x_ (http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?lat=54.873&Lon=-6.4744&scale=50000&I con=x) There are two James Ennis references in the parish of Portglenone in 1861 at the time of Griffith's Valuation. Ennis, James County : Antrim Parish : Portglenone Location : Garvaghy Ennis, James County : Antrim Parish : Portglenone Location : Mullinsallagh Regards Nevin ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message