Thank you Jeanne! Yes, if anyone can do a lookup I would be very much appreciative. Does the LDS say anything about a death date? She died so young and horrible. Also, thank you for the info on "the history box" site! I have it in my favorites. What a fabulous site! Tons of info to browse through! Thank you to everyone who sent me definitions on "FARL". I will always know that farl means "fourth" and much more! >>>>Kathleen, I found a Mary Harigan, born 17 Nov. 1880 (my birthday, but not the year!) to Dennis Harigan and Elizebeth Higgins on the LDS IGI. It says the record was extracted from Birth Certificates in Manhattan. With the date and year, even if it's a possibility, you could request a lookup from someone going into the Archives in the City... ____________________ Jim, Would you have any Mary Dineen's in your family, born about 1842?? There just doesn't seem to be that many Dineen's in NYC -- compared to O'DOnnell's anyway that I always wonder about a connection. My Mary married Michael O'Donnell. Thank you! Kathleen O'Donnell Grone >>>>>>Jerry, I was certainly impressed also. Can you track through my ancestral name Dineen/Dinneen? My grandfather John (Michael) Dineen, great grandfather Timothy Dineen, and great great grandfather Patrick Dinneen all were born and raised in the Rathmore, Co. Kerry area, about 3 miles southwest in the townland of Carran. Fr. Patrick Stephen Dinneen, S. J., the great lexicographer, may have been a brother of my great grandfather. I am still researching. All the best, Jim B. (James Dineen Burden) __________________________ I just got a letter from my Aunt MaryAnn who remembers meeting an Uncle John O'Donnell, who served in WW1-- I am so confused! An Uncle John? Popped out of nowhere! Brother to James J. and Alice?! Help! _________________________ Walter, Thank you so much for the info and links on Flatbush and Hell's Kitchen. Now, it Five Points Hell's Kitchen or is that another hellish place? I am sorry if my questions seem silly but remember that I have been raised primarily in the midwest -- NE, SD, -- I have been studying maps but NYC and area is HUGE -- streets galore!! I live 3.5 miles from the nearest paved road! Ha! Thankyou! Thank you! Kathleen _________________________ D.R. "Doc" Begnal-Young--Thank you for the info on Hell's Kitchen! Very insightful! Blessings, Kathleen > Walter Greenspan During the Viet Nam era, the draft board for New York County -- the infamous one from the movie, "Alice's Restaurant" -- was located at 39 Whitehall Street. That is really interesting! I know in the movie the "Outsiders" in Tulsa, the lot next to the house used was where my Mom's house was- it had burnt down but it was interesting to see where she grew up. >>Circa the late 1800s and early 1900s, Flatbush was a poor/depressed area. It is from Flatbush that the colorful Brooklyn accent bubbled up. Walter Greenspan My Dad left the orphanage and Brooklyn when he was 16 and he still has an accent - my mother has a southern accent -- I'm still confused! Kathleen O'Donnell Grone _______________________ For the mountains may depart and the hills be removed, but my steadfast love shall not depart from you, and my covenant of peace shall not be removed, says the LORD, who has compassion on you. Isaiah 54:10 --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news & more. Check it out!