Hi Kathleen, I hope you get the chance to read the series on Hell's Kitchen that's on the list website. We had also profiled a few other neighborhoods in NYC that had a large Irish population. You can learn even more about Hell's Kitchen by reading the Draft Riot series on the list website. Sadly, the area was home to a true slaughter on Tenth Avenue. We have many people on the list who are former Hell's Kitchen residents. When we were running the series on the list, many of them were kind enough to email me their adventures in the neighborhood. It would be an understatement to say that it made fascinating reading! I once met a woman who, I guess, was trying to impress me with where she lived in Manhattan. She was going on and on about how she had this, and she had that, etc. When I asked her what neighborhood she lived in, she replied that she lived in Clinton. (I guess she thought that made the area sound very chic.) I then said, "Oh, you live in Hell's Kitchen!" Boy did her face drop! But I have a true affection for the area. I think that to most New Yorkers, the area will always be Hell's Kitchen. Take care, Tracy IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY list admin http://www.irishinnyc.freeservers.com http://www.inyc.freeservers.com