Wendy, The O'Donnell 1870 census you e-mailed makes more sense as it has Michael and Mary's ages two years apart. I think the children could also have come over with other family as well, as it has a Mary O'Donnell, obviously a grandmother or aunt on the census. I want to order Michael Naturalization certificate to find out about his parents. I have a copy but I am told there is a lot more info available. I just wonder if some of the kids are neices and nephews??? Children they took in from deceased relatives?? I am grabbing at straws but maybe that many children died or something? I have Alice born 1871 or 1872 so she would not be on this census and James wouldn't either as he was born in 1881. An Aunt told me yesterday via email that she also met an Uncle John O'Donnell! I hadn't heard that one before but she said he had served in WW1! I was shocked by that. I emailed my Dad to see if he ever met him. This census seems to fit. And, they certainly could have had more children. Hard to say. From what I understand Mary Dineen O'D, Michael's wife didn't speak English very well... but that is stories as well. The Kellem census' are right on! Yeah! Thank you so much for everything! Your a wonder! Kathleen O'Donnell Grone For the mountains may depart and the hills be removed, but my steadfast love shall not depart from you, and my covenant of peace shall not be removed, says the LORD, who has compassion on you. Isaiah 54:10 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more.