John, It's not easy getting the deed. It passes down to the next of kin or I guess in a will. I think my husband's elderly cousin received in a will. The owner of the grave site was her paternal aunt who never married. However, the cousin was not the only niece or nephew living at the time of the aunt's death nor was she the eldest descendent. So that's what makes me think she got it through her aunt's will. IMHO. Nora Hopkins FitzGerald Hopkins - Castlebar, Co. Mayo/New York City Grant - Drumboniff, Co. Down/NYC In a message dated 3/11/2005 9:01:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I agree a small fee for look-up is fine, and you do not have to pay back perpetual care! No one is going to be buried there unless they have a deed for the plot, and back perpetual care is paid in full. Just my 2 cents John