Frank, Cyndi's list said this site was a site to reference for a defination: thefreedictionary.com CARTMEN. Persons who carry goods and merchandise in carts, either for great or short distances, for hire. 2. Cartmen who undertake to carry goods for hire as a common employment, are common carriers. BTW, growing up there was a "ragman" that went through the streets of the city selling rags...my mom called him "the old cartman" and he pushed and sometimes pulled this huge wagon that probably could have been attacked to a horse...but no horses were used. Hope this helps, Ro Frank McCullough <[email protected]> wrote: Hello List, Does anyone have a good definition of what exactly a "Cartman" was in the mid 1800s ? Thank You Frank ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== List Administrators: Tracy Cassidy [email protected] Jim McCarthy [email protected] ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx