Greetings from The beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota! I am new to this list but am posting the same thing as on the NYC list so I hope some of you who are on multiple lists don't mind. My name is Kathleen O'Donnell Grone -- I live in Deadwood and live in the midst of the infamous Sturgis Motorcycle Rally or "Bike Week" as they call it here. The bikes have already begun to arrive although the big week isn't until August. I have only lived her since August -- Other names I am researching in relation to the O'DONNELLS are HARRIGAN, DINEEN, KERNER (a german name), CREEN, JAMES, MINER (not positive about this connection to Creen), and WEIR I really want to learn more about my family-- my ancestors. I have been to NY and NYC several times and study maps and such. I love the research and the history. My father Edwin Allen "Allen" who is now a retired college professor in Nebraska still has a lot of relatives in NY. Somewhat Gen related -- looking for family -- My Dad had a brother Eugene who passed away. Eugene had two sons and we believe a daughter. After Eugene died the mother took the kids and literally disappeared. My grandfather Lester and his second wife, Dorothy looked for them for years. They hired investigators, etc. to no avail. They did trace one of the boys to the Navy in Florida years ago. We would love to meet this family so if any of you know of a Vincent or Eugene O'D we would love to hear of them. They were born sometime between 1948-1957. We think their mother's name was Jennie but aren't positive. I have a lot of family pictures, old and new on my myfamily.com site if anyone is interested. Some are of people I am not sure about. Parents of my dad and Eugene (Sr) are Lester A and Isabell M. Creen O'D -- As far as genealogy I will share a little more O'D and others info and if anyone can help that would be great. My outline will be at the end. James J. O'Donnell's second wife was Charlotte "Lottie" Kerner. The Kerner family ran a bakery and pub. A distant cousin of my father's who is still living today remembers seeing a photo of the pub in NYC. I think it was Kerner's pub owned by a Philip Kerner and/or a I am thinking. I would love to see a picture of the pub and or bakery. James J (some say it is Joseph) was a 'pipe closer'. What is a "pipe closer"- ?? From his daughter Lottie (named after her mother). "James attended parachial school until the 6th grade when he went to work for his father in the Asbesto buisness. He was not a very strong Catholic but was a member of the Our Lady of Perpetual Health Catholic Church. After Mary Harrigan O'Donnell died James J. married Charlotte Kerner Creen - in 1923. While married to Charlotte, James became more active in community activities. He was an executive board member of the Benevolent Protection Society of Elks i.e. Elks Club (I have had trouble proving this). He also belonged to several Irish secret societys such as the Finnians (I have no way of knowing how to prove this). James died on his way home from work at the age of 51. He is buried in Holy Cross Cemetary in Brooklyn, New York. Information on Mary HARRIGAN- Mary O'Donnell died on Jan 28, 1914 (five days after Leroy was born) at 4:00 p.m. at 216 Hoyt Street, a tenement in Brooklyn, Death Certificate number 2674. An autopsy was performed and the cause of death was asphyxia due to gas poisoning. Details of medical examiner's report not included. No personal information was provided or known to the county medical examiner. She was buried in a pauper's grave at the County Farm on Feb 5, 1914 by the Dept. of Public Charities. (This death was investigated as a murder or suicide but nothing came of it.) Regarding Charlotte Kerner Creen O'Donnell- St John Cemetery - Mrs. Lottie O'Donnell, registered owner of Section 25, Range V, gravet site No. 025, is buried there. Descendants of Michael O'Donnell 1 Michael O'DONNELL b: Abt. 1840 in Inishkeel, County Donegal, Ireland d: in New York .. +Mary E. DINEEN b: April 1842 in Limerick, Ireland d: Aft. 1910 in New York m: in Donegal, Ireland ... 2 Alice Faye O'DONNELL b: December 1871 in County Donegal, Ireland d: in New York ....... +Eli A. KILLEM b: 1870 ......... 3 Alice KELLEM ......... 3 Albert KELLEM ......... 3 Ethel KELLEM ... 2 James J. O'DONNELL b: July 17, 1880 in President Street, New York City, New York d: December 8, 1931 in Brooklyn, New York ....... +Mary HARRIGAN b: 1881 in Brooklyn, New York d: January 28, 1914 in Brooklyn, New York m: Abt. 1900 in New York (father is thought to be John Harrigan) ......... 3 Edwin O'DONNELL b: 1905 in New York d: in New York ............. +LOUISE ......... 3 Lester Aloyisius O'DONNELL b: August 30, 1908 in Brooklyn, New York d: March 2, 1992 in Yonkers, New York ............. +Isabell M. CREEN b: October 5, 1905 in Brooklyn, New York d: October 1, 1938 in Catskills, New York m: 1923 in Brooklyn, New York (Isabelle mother is Charlotte Kerner Creen O'Donnell, married to James J.) ............... 4 Teresa O'DONNELL b: June 23, 1927 in Brooklyn, New York ................... +Alfred MODICA b: in Riverdale Bronx, New York m: September 7, 1947 ............... 4 Eugene Lester O'DONNELL b: November 9, 1929 in Brooklyn, New York d: February 24, 1961 in Los Angeles, California ................... +JENNIE b: Abt. 1930 in New Jersey m: Abt. 1950 in New York ............... 4 Edwin Allen O'DONNELL "Allen" b: June 10, 1931 in Brooklyn, New York ................... +Bennie Bell Ann ARMSTRONG "Ann" b: July 14, 1935 in Vinson, Oklahoma m: October 4, 1954 in Wichita, Kansas ............... 4 Kenneth O'DONNELL b: June 18, 1934 in Brooklyn, New York ................... +BETTY b: February 28, 1935 in Grenoch, Scotland d: October 28, 1984 in New York m: in New York ............... 4 MaryAnn O'DONNELL b: July 19, 1936 in Brooklyn, New York ................... +Timothy LACEY b: in Yonkers, New York m: October 19, 1957 in New York ............... 4 Robert O'DONNELL b: January 1938 in Brooklyn, New York ................... +Marilyn POPE b: in Georgia m: in Texas ............... *2nd Wife of Robert O'Donnell: ................... +Susan DAILY b: 1949 in Yonkers, New York m: 1967 in Yonkers, New York ......... *2nd Wife of Lester Aloyisius O'Donnell: ............. +Dorothy Mary SCHULTZ b: May 3, 1918 in New York City, New York m: March 18, 1940 in New York City, New York ............... 4 William O'DONNELL b: September 26, 1941 in New York ................... +Gayle LANDRY ............... *2nd Wife of William O'Donnell: ................... +Marilyn SWITKOW ............... 4 Diane O'DONNELL b: 1943 ................... +James O'HANLON ............... *2nd Husband of Diane O'Donnell: ................... +Harald FRANK ............... 4 Eileen O'DONNELL b: September 4, 1945 in New York City, New York ................... +Russel PANOS b: in New York m: in New York ......... 3 James George O'DONNELL b: February 8, 1909 in Brooklyn, New York d: in New York ............. +Isabelle CARBERRY b: November 25, 1907 in Helensburgh, Scotland d: February 1989 in Brooklyn, New York ......... 3 Leroy O'DONNELL b: January 23, 1914 in New York d: Aft. 1984 in New York ... *2nd Wife of James J. O'Donnell: ....... +Charlotte "Lottie" KERNER b: November 27, 1886 in Brooklyn, New York d: March 13, 1959 in New York m: 1923 in New York ......... 3 Charlotte Louise O'DONNELL b: January 20, 1927 ............. +VASSALLO ......... 3 Albert O'DONNELL b: 1929 ......... 3 John "Jack" O'DONNELL b: 1931 >>>>I have a copy of the 1920 US Census page for Dwight Street. My uncle and > his wife lived at 67 Dwight Street. The names: O'Donnell, Lynch, Cassidy, > and Lynett lived at 65. Any of them yours? > DO YOU HAVE FIRST NAMES FOR THE O'D's?? Additional info that may help someone-- Orphan Train Census: O'Donnell, Thomas, White Male, 11, scholar, (His Birthplace) NY, (Fathers birthplace) Ireland, (Mothers birthplace) Ireland Mexican War- Third Infantry First Artilliary SECOND DIVISION Commanded by Brig.-Gen. Twiggs Actions at Chapultepc and the Garita de Belen on the 13th, and in the city of Mexico on the 14th and 15th of September 1847. Killed: 4. Pvt. John J. O'Donnell, Co. B. Enough for now -- BLessings, Kathleen O'Donnell Grone _____________ Mr. Connors- Do you know the people in the photo on your wonderful, wonderful website -- on this page? http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ The man in the tie behind the lady who looks like a nun looks so much like my father it is downright --- weird?? I mean he looks like my Dad did 50 years ago or so! For the mountains may depart and the hills be removed, but my steadfast love shall not depart from you, and my covenant of peace shall not be removed, says the LORD, who has compassion on you. Isaiah 54:10 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com