In a message dated 10/28/2007 12:25:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, megan@cfl.rr.com writes: So the lesson that Liz and I both learned is that if you re-check your facts and you are pretty certain the records should be in that place, it is worthwhile to question the search or to search again on your own. Being a genealogy newcomer, the experiences, good and bad, shared on this list have been so helpful to me in figuring out what to do next. Melanie, You are so right about everything you said. I was commenting on my experience with using Calvary and didn't realize it sounded like I was concentrating on the "in defense of." You bring up some very good points especially for newcomers. I have resent for several certificates to Cambers Street because I knew I had a correct date, but several times I was not able to see the forest for the trees. I hadn't realized that being buried in Calvary didn't mean they died in NY! This was a hard and expensive lesson. I also had a brick wall with finding my father's birth certificate and only tracked it down because we were able to stop at the LDS Library in Utah while on vacation. His BC said he was born 3 months later then he celebrated his birthday on and this put him into 1910 where the records were no longer at Chambers Street. This caused all kinds of confusion. I also had one uncle who was listed as female and several times the names were very misspelled. I just couldn't figure out why I couldn't find them on the Italian Genealogy Site. These kind of things become our "brick walls." In hindsight it always seems so simple that you can't imagine how you missed it. Quite often it's the help of wonderful and more experienced posters that do the trick. It's the old "two heads are better than one!" Good luck searching, Dee in FL ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com