In a message dated 10/31/2007 5:06:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, catherine.windsor@gmail.com writes: Also we are paying a fee, which is fine but they should be more careful. I did not pay the perpetual care. ================== I had forgotten about them asking for perpetual care. I didn't pay either....I couldn't afford it. As I said in one of my other post, I did consider my experience good, yet many of the same things happened to me with names, etc. I started out with some very old receipts for the graves which had the name of the person buying them and the date, Abt 1900 and on. These came to me when an older relative passed away and I had no idea they even existed. When I wrote Calvary them about getting the information, etc., they wrote and told me what the search would cost. I paid over $100, can't remember now, as there were 4 graves with quite a few people buried him them. I am still looking for the connection between my family name and two children what are buried there by names I don't recognize. I assume they were married names and somehow related to the family. I also had two graves searched in Greenwood Cemetery in Brooklyn. For me the searches were worth every cent of the cost because I was only expecting to find my grandparents and a few aunts and uncles in the graves. I was able to turn up many children from both my grandparent's families that I would never have known about. Although the last names were spelled differently, I could usually tell who they were. I'm also not sure if all the misspelled names are the cemetery's fault. It seems that the names I'm researching, at least several of them, are misspelled from one certificate to another. These are Italian names and not that common. As frustrating as it is to be given the wrong spelling or a "not" found, I'm not sure if there is any thing we can do about that. Does anyone have a suggestion? I know that at the time I used them, I believe they were filed by burial date (Calvary) and not name. I guess once they get a burial date they can check the plot for others. Greenwood is online now, but I originally wrote to them and said I was looking for a great grandfather who died and left my great grandmother a widow and I gave them the timeframe when I thought the death occurred. They did find it for me and sent me the cost for the search. They were very helpful and I feel very fortunate now when I think of what might have happened. I had over a page of burials. To sum it up for new researches, keep trying. If not again now, at a later time. Also, if you have a death certificate number you can get copies of certificates for $2 each from the LSD Library. I've gotten many by first getting the numbers from the Italian Genealogy Research Site (not just for Italian names) and then sending for them at the LDS. I've also done this with birth and marriage certificates. Up until then I was paying for one at a time from NYC and it was costing a fortune. Good luck everyone, Dee (Wishing I was in NY doing research!) ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Also, if you have a death certificate number you can get copies of certificates for $2 each from the LSD Library. I've gotten many by first getting the numbers from the Italian Genealogy Research Site (not just for Italian names) and then sending for them at the LDS. I've also done this with birth and marriage certificates. Up until then I was paying for one at a time from NYC and it was costing a fortune. Dee, I went off to the the LDS Family History Center today to order up some copies of Death Certs & Marriage Lics, etc. When I asked them about this $2 service they looked at me like I was speaking Serbian. They went and got the General Manager & he said there is no such service except for English records...I went to the Temple in Oakland, CA. which is a huge operation. If this service is available, who do we contact & what is the name of the service? Are there special forms that need to be filled out? I order lots of stuff from NYC & this would be a great help in keeping the costs down. Thanks Frank McCullough California LookingBack45@aol.com wrote: > >In a message dated 10/31/2007 5:06:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >catherine.windsor@gmail.com writes: > >Also we are paying a fee, which is fine >but they should be more careful. I did not pay the perpetual care. > > > >================== > >I had forgotten about them asking for perpetual care. I didn't pay >either....I couldn't afford it. As I said in one of my other post, I did consider my >experience good, yet many of the same things happened to me with names, etc. >I started out with some very old receipts for the graves which had the name >of the person buying them and the date, Abt 1900 and on. These came to me >when an older relative passed away and I had no idea they even existed. When >I wrote Calvary them about getting the information, etc., they wrote and told >me what the search would cost. I paid over $100, can't remember now, as >there were 4 graves with quite a few people buried him them. I am still looking >for the connection between my family name and two children what are buried >there by names I don't recognize. I assume they were married names and >somehow related to the family. I also had two graves searched in Greenwood Cemetery > in Brooklyn. For me the searches were worth every cent of the cost because >I was only expecting to find my grandparents and a few aunts and uncles in >the graves. I was able to turn up many children from both my grandparent's >families that I would never have known about. Although the last names were >spelled differently, I could usually tell who they were. I'm also not sure if >all the misspelled names are the cemetery's fault. It seems that the names I'm >researching, at least several of them, are misspelled from one certificate >to another. These are Italian names and not that common. As frustrating as it >is to be given the wrong spelling or a "not" found, I'm not sure if there >is any thing we can do about that. Does anyone have a suggestion? I know that >at the time I used them, I believe they were filed by burial date (Calvary) >and not name. I guess once they get a burial date they can check the plot >for others. Greenwood is online now, but I originally wrote to them and said >I was looking for a great grandfather who died and left my great grandmother >a widow and I gave them the timeframe when I thought the death occurred. >They did find it for me and sent me the cost for the search. They were very >helpful and I feel very fortunate now when I think of what might have >happened. I had over a page of burials. > >To sum it up for new researches, keep trying. If not again now, at a later >time. Also, if you have a death certificate number you can get copies of >certificates for $2 each from the LSD Library. I've gotten many by first >getting the numbers from the Italian Genealogy Research Site (not just for Italian >names) and then sending for them at the LDS. I've also done this with birth >and marriage certificates. Up until then I was paying for one at a time from >NYC and it was costing a fortune. > >Good luck everyone, > >Dee (Wishing I was in NY doing research!) > > > >************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Ordering the first time from LDS is confusing but once you get the hang of it, it can save you lots of money! To order copies of death or marriage certificates from LDS, first look up the certificate number and year on the databases at italiangen.org. Then go to www.familysearch.org and click on Forms (right hand side) Click on Request for Photocopies: Census, Books, Microfilm, Microfiche and print off this form. (When you get your response, they will send you more blank forms, so you only have to do this once) Next, fill in your name and address and credit card information on the front of the form. On the back middle section labeled, General Microfilm or Microfiche, you'll start to print the information you need. Fill in the Name of Individual, Certificate #, Event Type, Date, and County (such as Manhattan). Now for the hard part. You need to find the microfilm reel number. Go back to www.familysearch.org and click on Family History Library Catalogue on the top bar. Next, select Place Search Under both "Place" and "Part of", type in New York and click Search. Select: New York, New York (City) On the next screen, look for "New York, New York (City) - Vital Records" - to get there, click "View next set of matching topics" and scroll toward the end. When you click on it, a bunch of different types of records will display. Click on the type of record, county, and time period you want. A description of the records will display. Click on "View Film Notes" in the upper left hand corner. Now you are at the actual reels. Look for the year and certificate # range you want. Be careful because LDS needs the right reel. Write the reel number in the first column of your form. They are usually a 7 digit number. You can request up to 8 certificates at a time. I've found it very easy to fax the request to the number on the front of the form. I usually get a response in two weeks. Birth certificates are harder because certificate numbers are not usually online. If you do have one from Ancestry or another source, you can follow these same instructions to order. You can also order the page of the birth index. Find the reel that contains the birth index for the year/name that you need. LDS will send the page with the name you requested. If the birth is on there, you can then order the certificate on your next request. A little slower but it is still cheaper than the Municipal Archives. Melanie Orlando

I have sourced the film #s many times online & ordered the films at my local LDS FHC, but didn't know I could have the certs copied for me at LDS for such a reasonable price...I have located the request form, downloaded it & put together my first order. I'll let you know how it goes. I have 5 siblings of my Grt & Grt Grt Grandparents to find. All are females. So I have to go through the process of elimination...deaths & marriages. There are about 40 differents possibilities on the different indexes. If you look at my last name I can tell you I've found it spelled a dozen different ways. That is a lot of certs to buy. Renting the different films now isn't much less than just ordering the certs from NYC. This deal with LDS really makes sense. Thanks for everyone's help. Frank McCullough Melanie wrote: >Ordering the first time from LDS is confusing but once you get the hang of >it, it can save you lots of money! > >To order copies of death or marriage certificates from LDS, first look up >the certificate number and year on the databases at italiangen.org. >Then go to www.familysearch.org and click on Forms (right hand side) >Click on Request for Photocopies: Census, Books, Microfilm, Microfiche and >print off this form. (When you get your response, they will send you more >blank forms, so you only have to do this once) >Next, fill in your name and address and credit card information on the front >of the form. On the back middle section labeled, General Microfilm or >Microfiche, you'll start to print the information you need. Fill in the >Name of Individual, Certificate #, Event Type, Date, and County (such as >Manhattan). >Now for the hard part. You need to find the microfilm reel number. >Go back to www.familysearch.org and click on Family History Library >Catalogue on the top bar. >Next, select Place Search >Under both "Place" and "Part of", type in New York and click Search. >Select: New York, New York (City) >On the next screen, look for "New York, New York (City) - Vital Records" - >to get there, click "View next set of matching topics" and scroll toward the >end. >When you click on it, a bunch of different types of records will display. >Click on the type of record, county, and time period you want. >A description of the records will display. Click on "View Film Notes" in >the upper left hand corner. >Now you are at the actual reels. Look for the year and certificate # range >you want. Be careful because LDS needs the right reel. >Write the reel number in the first column of your form. They are usually a >7 digit number. > >You can request up to 8 certificates at a time. I've found it very easy to >fax the request to the number on the front of the form. I usually get a >response in two weeks. > >Birth certificates are harder because certificate numbers are not usually >online. If you do have one from Ancestry or another source, you can follow >these same instructions to order. You can also order the page of the birth >index. Find the reel that contains the birth index for the year/name that >you need. LDS will send the page with the name you requested. If the birth >is on there, you can then order the certificate on your next request. A >little slower but it is still cheaper than the Municipal Archives. > >Melanie >Orlando > > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >