In a message dated 11/2/2007 8:11:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, frank@ap.net writes: Dee, I went off to the LDS Family History Center today to order up some copies of Death Certs & Marriage Lics, etc. When I asked them about this $2 service they looked at me like I was speaking Serbian. They went and got the General Manager & he said there is no such service except for English records...I went to the Temple in Oakland, CA. which is a huge operation. If this service is available, who do we contact & what is the name of the service? Are there special forms that need to be filled out? I order lots of stuff from NYC & this would be a great help in keeping the costs down. Thanks Frank McCullough ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Frank, someone kindly posted the information on one of the boards I was reading. I'm going to try and summarize it as best as I can, because I cannot find the instructions I printed several years ago. In May I ordered 6 certificates from the LDS for which I had found certificate numbers for on the Italian Genealogy Research Site. I sent them (LDS) a check for $12.00 for the 6 items. The minimum order is $4.00 for the first one, etc. The instructions are explained on the order form which you print from the Family Research Site. 1. Once there click on "Site Map." 2. Under "Welcome" click on "Family History Forms." 3. Click on "Request for Census" Form" #31768. 4. Print and fill out under "General Microfilm or Microfiche." I have always used this although I've never been sure I've been doing it right. I have always gotten my info back and they give you a credit if they cannot find it. It's happened once or twice and it's usually been my fault. They DO NOT DO THE RESEARCH FOR YOU. You must send the correct information. NOW: Once you have a certificate number for the certificate you want a copy for, you then find out the number of the LDS film this certificate number is on. With that information you are able to fill out the information asked for on the form and they are able to find the correct certificate to copy for you. EXAMPLE: I found a Death Certificate Number listed on the Italian Genealogy site for my aunt, Josephine Schaefer. I went to the LDS site, New York City (I think), Vital statistics, Death, or whatever covered Manhattan deaths and found which film covered that number. Sorry that I don't have time to run through it all now to make sure it's right. Anyway, this is what I ended up putting on the form: Film #2134080; Josephine Schaefer; Manhattan, NY; D (for death certificate); 10-Dec-1948 (date for death); Manhattan, NY, #26830 (which is the Death Certificate Number.) It doesn't really match what they ask for, but it's always worked for me and for the person who sent me the information. I've been doing it for several years. Another point, I've done research at two local LDS Churches and I've found that a great majority or the "helpers" are just members who might be just "minding" the desk because there is no one else available. Those of you who've found someone who can really help, are most fortunate. I always thought it was my inability to understand what to do, but your replay makes me think otherwise. Good luck. Hope this isn't too confusing. Dee ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com