How, may I ask, can I look at the 1855 ".special" New York City census? I live in North Carolina. I have never seen evidence of this being available through the LDS church library. Is there another avenue available to me? Genie in Raleigh ----- Original Message ----- From: <irish-new-york-city-request@rootsweb.com> To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 3:18 AM Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 13 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Passenger Lists (Michelle and Kevin Cassidy) > 2. Re: Passenger Lists - Today? (Rootsmurphy@aol.com) > 3. Agnes M. Gamble 1810 -1890 (Chuck Wright) > 4. Re: Agnes M. Gamble 1810 -1890 (Michelle and Kevin Cassidy) > 5. Re: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 12 > (GwenM10100@aol.com) > 6. Re: Passenger Lists (Patricia Heffernan) > 7. Re: Passenger Lists (Patricia Heffernan) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:11:02 -0600 > From: Michelle and Kevin Cassidy <kmct@earthlink.net> > Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Passenger Lists > To: irish-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <943753C8-A025-4C51-863D-8FA41FA586CD@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > I had recently read in a magazine from a few years ago that for the > port at New York ALONE there was a unique entry policy for women > traveling alone. It said that single women or married women traveling > without a male relative were detained until a male relative came to > get her from Castle Garden and possibly Ellis Island.(Not sure when > this changed.) > > Does anyone know if this is true? Has anyone searched the ship's > lists and used this to identify that one Mary Benson is the > ancestor's sister and now you know where her brother lived possibly > in 1883? These detained lists are not part of the records at Ancestry > but the article said they would be at the end of the list. Were they > filmed for the National Archives films? > > Thanks! > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 10:37:54 EST > From: Rootsmurphy@aol.com > Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Passenger Lists - Today? > To: irish-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <bc1.24ccf8bd.34b3a152@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Sounds like a good idea...even today! > > --------------------------- ORIGINAL MESSAGE ------------------------ > I had recently read in a magazine from a few years ago that for the > port at New York ALONE there was a unique entry policy for women > traveling alone. It said that single women or married women traveling > without a male relative were detained until a male relative came to > get her from Castle Garden and possibly Ellis Island.(Not sure when > this changed.) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------- > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 15:16:06 -0500 > From: "Chuck Wright" <cww@Reese-Carney.com> > Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Agnes M. Gamble 1810 -1890 > To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <DD0F22852CFAC141B2D8FDF7AC00742C06B32B@REESE-EXCHANGE.Reese-Carney.local> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I am searching for any definitive information on one of my > gggrandmothers, Agnes M. Gamble. From the 1880 Federal Census I know she > was born in NYC in 1810 (+/1 a year). Trow's NYC Directory has her last > in 1889 living at 18 Bedford Street, Manhattan. She does not appear at > all in the IGG death index. My conclusion is that she died in Manhattan > in 1890 (+/1 a year). The census information is that both of her parents > were born in Ireland. From a death certificate of one of her children, > I know that her husband's name was Charles Eagleson. Charles probably > died before 1850 because the 1850 census has Agnes as head of household. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 15:00:44 -0600 > From: Michelle and Kevin Cassidy <kmct@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Agnes M. Gamble 1810 -1890 > To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <825309E1-2FBC-49B3-9AB8-5F5A50215EB6@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > While the index online begins only in 1891, there were death records > before that. From Aug 1888-1895(FHL has this period on one roll of > film) forward is indexed in a typed book format. There were also card > indexes created. Check the Family History Library(FHL) out at > familysearch.org > > You can rent a film from them for $5.50 and perhaps find her death > there. > > Good luck. > > > On Jan 7, 2008, at 2:16 PM, Chuck Wright wrote: > >> I am searching for any definitive information on one of my >> gggrandmothers, Agnes M. Gamble. From the 1880 Federal Census I >> know she >> was born in NYC in 1810 (+/1 a year). Trow's NYC Directory has her >> last >> in 1889 living at 18 Bedford Street, Manhattan. She does not appear at >> all in the IGG death index. My conclusion is that she died in >> Manhattan >> in 1890 (+/1 a year). The census information is that both of her >> parents >> were born in Ireland. From a death certificate of one of her >> children, >> I know that her husband's name was Charles Eagleson. Charles probably >> died before 1850 because the 1850 census has Agnes as head of >> household. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW- >> YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 19:12:03 EST > From: GwenM10100@aol.com > Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 12 > To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <cd4.219bd0a5.34b419d3@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > In a message dated 1/7/2008 3:19:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, > irish-new-york-city-request@rootsweb.com writes: > >> My point is that make sure you mention that you would like any written >> info >> >> if you do write to Ireland. >> >> When writing, if you have some concrete indication that the person you >> want > the certificate for really did have a connection to that particular > parish, not > just their names, then do include it. That would include members of the > family or close friends having had births or marriages there or the church > is next > door to their residence, or newspaper clippings of family events there. > Anything to indicate you are not just desperately "fishing" and making the > request > on a faint chance, it will be more likely to produce results that way. > > > > ************** > Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 23:00:34 -0500 > From: "Patricia Heffernan" <Patricia@Heffcomm.net> > Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Passenger Lists > To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <00d901c851ab$053e8520$0700a8c0@HeffComm.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > My husband's ggrandmother, Filomena (di Palma) Papaccio and her two > children > were detained in 1906, waiting for her husband to pick them up. The list > of > detained aliens appears at the end of the passenger list at Ancestry.com. > Most of the detained passengers are females and their children waiting for > male relatives to come for them. > Patricia > > Patricia Van Wagenen Heffernan > The Van Wagenen, Harrison and Heffernan Families of New York > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/a/r/Patricia-V-Harrison > -----Original Message----- > From: irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michelle > and > Kevin Cassidy > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 10:11 AM > To: irish-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Passenger Lists > > I had recently read in a magazine from a few years ago that for the > port at New York ALONE there was a unique entry policy for women > traveling alone. It said that single women or married women traveling > without a male relative were detained until a male relative came to > get her from Castle Garden and possibly Ellis Island.(Not sure when > this changed.) > > Does anyone know if this is true? Has anyone searched the ship's > lists and used this to identify that one Mary Benson is the > ancestor's sister and now you know where her brother lived possibly > in 1883? These detained lists are not part of the records at Ancestry > but the article said they would be at the end of the list. Were they > filmed for the National Archives films? > > Thanks! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 23:04:47 -0500 > From: "Patricia Heffernan" <Patricia@Heffcomm.net> > Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Passenger Lists > To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <00da01c851ab$9be961c0$0700a8c0@HeffComm.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > My grandmother, Tyra Fagerholm, was detained in 1913 at Ellis Island, but > she was met by her Aunt Mary Johnson, so I guess it didn't have to be a > male > relative by 1913. > > Patricia > > Patricia Van Wagenen Heffernan > The Van Wagenen, Harrison and Heffernan Families of New York > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/a/r/Patricia-V-Harrison > > -----Original Message----- > From: irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michelle > and > Kevin Cassidy > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 10:11 AM > To: irish-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Passenger Lists > > I had recently read in a magazine from a few years ago that for the > port at New York ALONE there was a unique entry policy for women > traveling alone. It said that single women or married women traveling > without a male relative were detained until a male relative came to > get her from Castle Garden and possibly Ellis Island.(Not sure when > this changed.) > > Does anyone know if this is true? Has anyone searched the ship's > lists and used this to identify that one Mary Benson is the > ancestor's sister and now you know where her brother lived possibly > in 1883? These detained lists are not part of the records at Ancestry > but the article said they would be at the end of the list. Were they > filmed for the National Archives films? > > Thanks! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY list administrator, send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY mailing list, send an email > to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 13 > ************************************************** >