I did the DNA testing not to find new connections but to see if it could be determined how close the cousin relationship was between my paternal grandparents (same surname and lived on adjacent townlands in Mayo). My cousin's paternal grandfather was my paternal grandmother's brother. Knowing that my grandparents were cousins (no dispensation noted in church marriage record) I was hoping that DNA testing would help. Out of the 79 markers, my brother and male cousin matched 77 markers. This does show a fairly close relationship but nothing to tell me the actual degree. However, you can have a difference in markers between a father and son or a paternal grandfather and grandson depending whether the marker is a fast changer. My paternal DNA is R1b1c and mtDNA is H1b. These were the most common haplogroups that over wintered in the Iberian Peninsula during the Ice Age over 4,000 years ago. Once the ice retreated these people moved onto England and Ireland. I told my husband (E3b) that my family was on Ireland's shores over 3,000 years before his family (FitzGerald) showed up (about 12th century AD). I just find it interesting. Nora Hopkins FitzGerald Hopkins - Castlebar, Co. Mayo/New York City Grant - Drumboniff, Co. Down/NYC **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

Colleen, Have you seen the actual register? There may be a notation that they missed it or chose to ignore it when they issued a certificate. Also check with the diocesan office. Dispensations were/are granted by the bishop. They should have a record there. I know I have a copy of my ancestors' dispensation from the bishop in 1929. This was a family record I did not get it from the chancery. They were related in the third degree. They were second cousins. Their parents the first cousins were born on adjacent townlands in County Cork. On Jan 10, 2008, at 10:59 AM, Irishcolleen45@aol.com wrote: > I did the DNA testing not to find new connections but to see if it > could be > determined how close the cousin relationship was between my paternal > grandparents (same surname and lived on adjacent townlands in Mayo). > > My cousin's paternal grandfather was my paternal grandmother's > brother. > Knowing that my grandparents were cousins (no dispensation noted in > church > marriage record) I was hoping that DNA testing would help. Out of > the 79 markers, > my brother and male cousin matched 77 markers. This does show a > fairly close > relationship but nothing to tell me the actual degree. However, you > can have a > difference in markers between a father and son or a paternal > grandfather and > grandson depending whether the marker is a fast changer. > > My paternal DNA is R1b1c and mtDNA is H1b. These were the most common > haplogroups that over wintered in the Iberian Peninsula during the > Ice Age over > 4,000 years ago. Once the ice retreated these people moved onto > England and > Ireland. I told my husband (E3b) that my family was on Ireland's > shores over > 3,000 years before his family (FitzGerald) showed up (about 12th > century AD). > > I just find it interesting. > > Nora Hopkins FitzGerald > Hopkins - Castlebar, Co. Mayo/New York City > Grant - Drumboniff, Co. Down/NYC > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW- > YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message