I grew up in NYC and that particular location is a wealthy area...although not as expensive as others in Manhattan. You have the right address. As you go further north...you get closer to the Harlem border which is about 120th street. So the further north you go the less desirable. At that time...early 1900's...the wealthy did not go that far north. The "invisible line" for the very wealthy now is about 86th street. Although most Irish settled on the west side of Manhattan around the 42nd Street area and 8th Avenue (what is called Hell's Kitchen), there must have been affordable places to live on the "upper east side" at that time. Hope this helps. -- www.corbyoconnor.com -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Pauline Leonard" <treehouse3@gmail.com> > Hello, > I have an address of 233 E 95 ST, NY. > I checked a map and it seems to be in the "Upper East Side" of Manhattan. I > don't know anything about the neighbourhoods of NY so I checked it out on > Wikipedia. It seems to be a VERY rich area with a lot of very famous and > rich people there and some of the most expensive real estate in the world. > This doesn't seem like the place for a poor Irish immigrant to be living in > 1910. > Do I have the wrong place? > How can I place this address? Might it be in another Borough? > Thanks for your help. > > Slan > Pauline > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Poor Irish immigrants lived at all the fanciest addressed in my hometown of Englewood, NJ, in the mid-19th century. They were the cooks, housekeepers, stable boys, gardeners, laundresses, upstairs maids, etc. I remember being so impressed reading the 100th anniversary book of the RC parish when I was home on spring break from college -- to see all the Irish named Bridget and Nellie and Patrick who had contributed to the building fund 100 years earlier and whose addresses were those old mansions on the streets we could not yet afford even in the fourth generation -- then I realized what it was they were all doing there! They were NOT the property owners but the servants of the owners! ----- Original Message ----- From: corbyoconnor@comcast.net To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Upper East Side, Manhattan? I grew up in NYC and that particular location is a wealthy area...although not as expensive as others in Manhattan. You have the right address. As you go further north...you get closer to the Harlem border which is about 120th street. So the further north you go the less desirable. At that time...early 1900's...the wealthy did not go that far north. The "invisible line" for the very wealthy now is about 86th street. Although most Irish settled on the west side of Manhattan around the 42nd Street area and 8th Avenue (what is called Hell's Kitchen), there must have been affordable places to live on the "upper east side" at that time. Hope this helps. -- www.corbyoconnor.com -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Pauline Leonard" <treehouse3@gmail.com> > Hello, > I have an address of 233 E 95 ST, NY. > I checked a map and it seems to be in the "Upper East Side" of Manhattan. I > don't know anything about the neighbourhoods of NY so I checked it out on > Wikipedia. It seems to be a VERY rich area with a lot of very famous and > rich people there and some of the most expensive real estate in the world. > This doesn't seem like the place for a poor Irish immigrant to be living in > 1910. > Do I have the wrong place? > How can I place this address? Might it be in another Borough? > Thanks for your help. > > Slan > Pauline > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message