What would East 113th St. be considered back around 1850? Genie ----- Original Message ----- From: <irish-new-york-city-request@rootsweb.com> To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 3:18 AM Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 67 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Upper East Side, Manhattan? (Maureen) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 00:56:42 -0500 > From: "Maureen" <mcshelly2@msn.com> > Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Upper East Side, Manhattan? > To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BLU125-DAV51A02465588EC69EB90C0FEF80@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Poor Irish immigrants lived at all the fanciest addressed in my hometown > of Englewood, NJ, > in the mid-19th century. > > They were the cooks, housekeepers, stable boys, gardeners, laundresses, > upstairs maids, etc. > > I remember being so impressed reading the 100th anniversary book of the RC > parish when I > was home on spring break from college -- to see all the Irish named > Bridget and Nellie and Patrick > who had contributed to the building fund 100 years earlier and whose > addresses were those old > mansions on the streets we could not yet afford even in the fourth > generation -- then I realized > what it was they were all doing there! They were NOT the property owners > but the servants > of the owners! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: corbyoconnor@comcast.net > To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:42 AM > Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Upper East Side, Manhattan? > > > I grew up in NYC and that particular location is a wealthy > area...although not as expensive as others in Manhattan. You have the > right address. As you go further north...you get closer to the Harlem > border which is about 120th street. So the further north you go the less > desirable. At that time...early 1900's...the wealthy did not go that far > north. The "invisible line" for the very wealthy now is about 86th street. > Although most Irish settled on the west side of Manhattan around the 42nd > Street area and 8th Avenue (what is called Hell's Kitchen), there must > have been affordable places to live on the "upper east side" at that time. > > Hope this helps. > > -- > www.corbyoconnor.com > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Pauline Leonard" <treehouse3@gmail.com> > > > Hello, > > I have an address of 233 E 95 ST, NY. > > I checked a map and it seems to be in the "Upper East Side" of > Manhattan. I > > don't know anything about the neighbourhoods of NY so I checked it out > on > > Wikipedia. It seems to be a VERY rich area with a lot of very famous > and > > rich people there and some of the most expensive real estate in the > world. > > This doesn't seem like the place for a poor Irish immigrant to be > living in > > 1910. > > Do I have the wrong place? > > How can I place this address? Might it be in another Borough? > > Thanks for your help. > > > > Slan > > Pauline > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY list administrator, send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY mailing list, send an email > to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 67 > ************************************************** >