To the List per request: I obtained copies of Natz papers: Intent, Petition and Final, by requesting the C-Files for the individual involved by writing to the Dept of Justice, INS. This applies to NATZ SINCE 1906. You do not need to know where the documents were originally filed or when, or even if they were ever filed. It was free. Response time was about 2 months but some took over 3 months. The documents I received were definitely not the clearest but good enough for me to read about dates, port of entry, name of ships, spouses, witnesses, residence, name of court and Natz #s etc. Lots of good information. (One could always get better copies from the original source now that you knew what court etc to go to.) Check this site out for basic informaion: http://www.ins.usdoj.gov/graphics/aboutins/history/ then click on that page Naturalization Records (what they are, about INS copies since 1906 . . .) then read about C-Files (which I copied below for you) -------------------- Naturalization Certificate Files (C-Files) INS naturalization certificate files, known as C-Files, include a duplicate copy of all naturalization records dated after September 26, 1906. All C-Files contain at least a copy of the Declaration of Intention (184k) to become a US Citizen (to 1952), Petition for Naturalization (279k), and Certificate of Naturalization (223k). Occasional files contain additional documents or correspondence. C-Files include all US naturalizations from all States and Territories, and from all courts (Federal, State, and local). INS maintains an index to the C-Files, and can retrieve individual records based on name, date of birth, and place of birth. C-Files from 1906 to 1956 have been microfilmed, and are available via Freedom of Information/Privacy Act request to INS Headquarters in Washington, D.C. For naturalization records after 1956, Freedom of Information requests should be sent to the appropriate INS District Office. ----------------------------------- I sent for these in writing. Below you will find an example of the letter I used. Any dates I used were either my best est or better if I had it. For names I also gave alternative spellings if I though I needed to. Place of birth was as best as I could do and often was as simple as the name of the country. For individuals less than 100 years old you will need proof of death (copy of obituary, copy of death certificate, in my case I used a printout of the SSDI for the person on Rootsweb.com ( http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi ) and that was acceptable) or permission of the individual. I rec your including your phone number because I did in fact get a call from someone processing one of my requestes looking for clarification and proof of death-he accepted the SSDI printout. With in about a month after I submitted my request I got a form letter response informaing me of certain rules and fees, (but not always) but none of the fees applied. Of the 13 I have now sent for I got 7 postives returned, 2 no files found, and waiting on 4 I sent for this year in mid-April. Dayne ------------------------- This is an example of my letter: -------------------------- Director Freedom of Information Act/Privacy Act Program Immigration and Naturalization Service Department of Justice 425 Eye Street, N.W., 2nd Floor ULLICO Building Washington, D.C. 20536 (202) 514-1722 I am requesting a copy of the Naturalization Certificate Files (C-Files) for; Name: Souren MOZIAN DOB 28 Oct 1901 according to SSDI Place of Birth Armenia/Turkey Thank you (signature) (your typed name) (date) Address (your address) (your eMail addres) (your telephone number)