Don and Dorothy, I recently received an interment list from Calvary Cemetery. It took about six weeks. Four family plots were purchased on January 9, 1860 by James McLoughlin, who I believe to be my 3rd great grandfather. There are 22 people buried in those plots, including my great grandfather, who is also James McLaughlin. Many of the names I've never heard of. I don't know the maiden name of my 3rd great grandmother but there are a lot of Timmerman's buried in these plots. It's very interesting. The list includes the name of the deceased, date of burial, age at death, which grave the person is buried in and birth place; nothing exact, all of these birth places are either NY, Ireland and two US. Using this information I sent to the NY Dept. of Records and Information Services (DORIS) for a death certificate for the woman I believe to be my 3rd great grandmother, and just this morning received not a death certificate like I'm used to seeing, but a copy of a list giving the date of decease, name, age at death, street address, place of nativity, disease, cemetery, occupation, and attending physician. I was hoping for a maiden name but with a street address perhaps I'll be able to find them in the census and go from there. Every little bit helps. Prepare yourself. Calvary also sent me a bill for $2,625.00 for outstanding annual care charges due. They suggested I put the graveholdings under Perpetual Care for $2,750.00. If I do this now I can save the $144.00 annual care charge for 2002 and it will only cost me a total of $5,231.00. I hope they don't evict my ancestors when I don't respond. I don't believe they really expect me to pay it but I guess it's worth a try. Actually, they were some of the nicest people I've ever had the pleasure of dealing with. Good luck in your research, Barb in CT

If the family did not purchase "perpetual care" how does the Archdiocese keep up the cemetery with no money coming in from families with whom they have lost contact? We all want the grass cut and the place cleaned up before we get there, but I guess we never think about who is footing the bill for all of that, year after year. I am halfway across the country and hadn't thought of that. I didn't need to write to Calvary because my father did after our last burial there in 1963, and I have the letter he received. But it is something for all of us to think about, and perhaps it is what may cause cemeteries to "resell" "abandoned" plots after a certain number of years, as they do in Europe. There, you either pay the bills or they consider it abandoned and resell after about 30 years. In Germany in the early 1990s we could find no grave older than 1966 in our ancestral village cemetery, except for priests in the churchyard itself (the village cemetery was not near the church). --- BBurnett <bburnett@optonline.net> wrote: > Don and Dorothy, > > I recently received an interment list from Calvary > Cemetery. It took > about six weeks. Four family plots were purchased on > January 9, 1860 by > James McLoughlin, who I believe to be my 3rd great > grandfather. There are 22 > people buried in those plots, including my great > grandfather, who is also > James McLaughlin. Many of the names I've never heard of. > I don't know the > maiden name of my 3rd great grandmother but there are a > lot of Timmerman's > buried in these plots. It's very interesting. The list > includes the name of > the deceased, date of burial, age at death, which grave > the person is buried > in and birth place; nothing exact, all of these birth > places are either NY, > Ireland and two US. > Using this information I sent to the NY Dept. of > Records and Information > Services (DORIS) for a death certificate for the woman I > believe to be my > 3rd great grandmother, and just this morning received not > a death > certificate like I'm used to seeing, but a copy of a list > giving the date of > decease, name, age at death, street address, place of > nativity, disease, > cemetery, occupation, and attending physician. I was > hoping for a maiden > name but with a street address perhaps I'll be able to > find them in the > census and go from there. Every little bit helps. > Prepare yourself. Calvary also sent me a bill for > $2,625.00 for > outstanding annual care charges due. They suggested I put > the graveholdings > under Perpetual Care for $2,750.00. If I do this now I > can save the $144.00 > annual care charge for 2002 and it will only cost me a > total of $5,231.00. I > hope they don't evict my ancestors when I don't respond. > I don't believe > they really expect me to pay it but I guess it's worth a > try. Actually, they > were some of the nicest people I've ever had the pleasure > of dealing with. > Good luck in your research, > > Barb in CT > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > Please keep your anti-virus software up-to-date and run > frequent scans! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ===== Researching: Costello, Lynch, Raftree/Raftery, Doran, Gansberg, Bove, Zeidt/Seitz, VonAlleman/Wollerman, Amacher, Giefer, Marlot, Koch, Hense, Jackler, Alvine, Shelly, Daly, Early, Greene, O'Callaghan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/

Barb, Thanks for your email. It was very interesting to hear your story. Great news that you were able to find your ancestors. Hope I am able to do the same. Don --- BBurnett <bburnett@optonline.net> wrote: > Don and Dorothy, > > I recently received an interment list from > Calvary Cemetery. It took > about six weeks. Four family plots were purchased on > January 9, 1860 by > James McLoughlin, who I believe to be my 3rd great > grandfather. There are 22 > people buried in those plots, including my great > grandfather, who is also > James McLaughlin. Many of the names I've never heard > of. I don't know the > maiden name of my 3rd great grandmother but there > are a lot of Timmerman's > buried in these plots. It's very interesting. The > list includes the name of > the deceased, date of burial, age at death, which > grave the person is buried > in and birth place; nothing exact, all of these > birth places are either NY, > Ireland and two US. > Using this information I sent to the NY Dept. of > Records and Information > Services (DORIS) for a death certificate for the > woman I believe to be my > 3rd great grandmother, and just this morning > received not a death > certificate like I'm used to seeing, but a copy of a > list giving the date of > decease, name, age at death, street address, place > of nativity, disease, > cemetery, occupation, and attending physician. I was > hoping for a maiden > name but with a street address perhaps I'll be able > to find them in the > census and go from there. Every little bit helps. > Prepare yourself. Calvary also sent me a bill > for $2,625.00 for > outstanding annual care charges due. They suggested > I put the graveholdings > under Perpetual Care for $2,750.00. If I do this now > I can save the $144.00 > annual care charge for 2002 and it will only cost me > a total of $5,231.00. I > hope they don't evict my ancestors when I don't > respond. I don't believe > they really expect me to pay it but I guess it's > worth a try. Actually, they > were some of the nicest people I've ever had the > pleasure of dealing with. > Good luck in your research, > > Barb in CT > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > Please keep your anti-virus software up-to-date and > run frequent scans! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/