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Pat Yes, I'd forgotten all about that site. It's a great one. Maureen On Dec 7, 2007, at 10:57 PM, Patricia Harrison wrote: > I gave it another go, the searching for a photo that is, after I > looked at > the links you sent, and found this great site: > > http://www.forgotten-ny.com/Alleys/rose.james/rose.james.html > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maureen > OConnell > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 9:35 PM > To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] St. James RC Church Picture > > > > Hi Again > > > > Just found another link for you: > http://www.nycago.org/Organs/NYC/html/StJamesRC.html > > > > Maureen > > On Dec 7, 2007, at 7:27 PM, Patricia Harrison wrote: > > > >> Ro, > >> > >> I was just wondering if you ever got a picture of St James RC > >> Church. If > >> so, I would love to have a copy as my husband's ancestors attended > >> this > >> church. > >> > >> Thanks, Patricia > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Rose Mary A. (McGrath) Neal [mailto:maryro@yahoo.com] > >> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 1:26 AM > >> To: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Re: St. James RC Church Picture > >> > >> OOPSss...it is late I meant to day on Oliver Street NOT James Street > >> in > >> Lower Manhattan. > >> Thanks, > >> Ro > >> > >> "Rose Mary A. (McGrath) Neal" <maryro@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Good Evening all, > >> I was wondering if someone might be attending services at St. James > >> RC > >> Church on James Street in Lower Manhattan tomorrow? I so, I would be > >> ever so > >> greatful if someone take a picture of the church. I would reimburse > >> you for > >> any costs involved. > >> I have been unable to find any photos online. > >> Thank you, > >> Ro > >> > >> > >> Rose Mary A.(Mc Grath)Neal > >> > >> > >> Rose Mary A.(Mc Grath)Neal > >> > >> > >> ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > >> To post a message to the Irish-New-York-City list, please send your > >> email > >> to: > >> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com > >> > >> ============================== > >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and > >> the > >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com > >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > >> the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

I gave it another go, the searching for a photo that is, after I looked at the links you sent, and found this great site: http://www.forgotten-ny.com/Alleys/rose.james/rose.james.html -----Original Message----- From: irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maureen OConnell Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 9:35 PM To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] St. James RC Church Picture Hi Again Just found another link for you: http://www.nycago.org/Organs/NYC/html/StJamesRC.html Maureen On Dec 7, 2007, at 7:27 PM, Patricia Harrison wrote: > Ro, > > I was just wondering if you ever got a picture of St James RC > Church. If > so, I would love to have a copy as my husband's ancestors attended > this > church. > > Thanks, Patricia > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rose Mary A. (McGrath) Neal [mailto:maryro@yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 1:26 AM > To: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Re: St. James RC Church Picture > > OOPSss...it is late I meant to day on Oliver Street NOT James Street > in > Lower Manhattan. > Thanks, > Ro > > "Rose Mary A. (McGrath) Neal" <maryro@yahoo.com> wrote: > Good Evening all, > I was wondering if someone might be attending services at St. James > RC > Church on James Street in Lower Manhattan tomorrow? I so, I would be > ever so > greatful if someone take a picture of the church. I would reimburse > you for > any costs involved. > I have been unable to find any photos online. > Thank you, > Ro > > > Rose Mary A.(Mc Grath)Neal > > > Rose Mary A.(Mc Grath)Neal > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > To post a message to the Irish-New-York-City list, please send your > email > to: > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and > the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks so much Maureen!!!! Patricia -----Original Message----- From: irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maureen OConnell Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 9:35 PM To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] St. James RC Church Picture Hi Again Just found another link for you: http://www.nycago.org/Organs/NYC/html/StJamesRC.html Maureen On Dec 7, 2007, at 7:27 PM, Patricia Harrison wrote: > Ro, > > I was just wondering if you ever got a picture of St James RC > Church. If > so, I would love to have a copy as my husband's ancestors attended > this > church. > > Thanks, Patricia > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rose Mary A. (McGrath) Neal [mailto:maryro@yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 1:26 AM > To: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Re: St. James RC Church Picture > > OOPSss...it is late I meant to day on Oliver Street NOT James Street > in > Lower Manhattan. > Thanks, > Ro > > "Rose Mary A. (McGrath) Neal" <maryro@yahoo.com> wrote: > Good Evening all, > I was wondering if someone might be attending services at St. James > RC > Church on James Street in Lower Manhattan tomorrow? I so, I would be > ever so > greatful if someone take a picture of the church. I would reimburse > you for > any costs involved. > I have been unable to find any photos online. > Thank you, > Ro > > > Rose Mary A.(Mc Grath)Neal > > > Rose Mary A.(Mc Grath)Neal > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > To post a message to the Irish-New-York-City list, please send your > email > to: > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and > the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Again Just found another link for you: http://www.nycago.org/Organs/NYC/html/StJamesRC.html Maureen On Dec 7, 2007, at 7:27 PM, Patricia Harrison wrote: > Ro, > > I was just wondering if you ever got a picture of St James RC > Church. If > so, I would love to have a copy as my husband's ancestors attended > this > church. > > Thanks, Patricia > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rose Mary A. (McGrath) Neal [mailto:maryro@yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 1:26 AM > To: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Re: St. James RC Church Picture > > OOPSss...it is late I meant to day on Oliver Street NOT James Street > in > Lower Manhattan. > Thanks, > Ro > > "Rose Mary A. (McGrath) Neal" <maryro@yahoo.com> wrote: > Good Evening all, > I was wondering if someone might be attending services at St. James > RC > Church on James Street in Lower Manhattan tomorrow? I so, I would be > ever so > greatful if someone take a picture of the church. I would reimburse > you for > any costs involved. > I have been unable to find any photos online. > Thank you, > Ro > > > Rose Mary A.(Mc Grath)Neal > > > Rose Mary A.(Mc Grath)Neal > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > To post a message to the Irish-New-York-City list, please send your > email > to: > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and > the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Hi Try this link, there's a photo of the church on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._James'_Church,_New_York Maureen On Dec 7, 2007, at 7:27 PM, Patricia Harrison wrote: > Ro, > > I was just wondering if you ever got a picture of St James RC > Church. If > so, I would love to have a copy as my husband's ancestors attended > this > church. > > Thanks, Patricia > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rose Mary A. (McGrath) Neal [mailto:maryro@yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 1:26 AM > To: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Re: St. James RC Church Picture > > OOPSss...it is late I meant to day on Oliver Street NOT James Street > in > Lower Manhattan. > Thanks, > Ro > > "Rose Mary A. (McGrath) Neal" <maryro@yahoo.com> wrote: > Good Evening all, > I was wondering if someone might be attending services at St. James > RC > Church on James Street in Lower Manhattan tomorrow? I so, I would be > ever so > greatful if someone take a picture of the church. I would reimburse > you for > any costs involved. > I have been unable to find any photos online. > Thank you, > Ro > > > Rose Mary A.(Mc Grath)Neal > > > Rose Mary A.(Mc Grath)Neal > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > To post a message to the Irish-New-York-City list, please send your > email > to: > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and > the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Ro, I was just wondering if you ever got a picture of St James RC Church. If so, I would love to have a copy as my husband's ancestors attended this church. Thanks, Patricia -----Original Message----- From: Rose Mary A. (McGrath) Neal [mailto:maryro@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 1:26 AM To: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Re: St. James RC Church Picture OOPSss...it is late I meant to day on Oliver Street NOT James Street in Lower Manhattan. Thanks, Ro "Rose Mary A. (McGrath) Neal" <maryro@yahoo.com> wrote: Good Evening all, I was wondering if someone might be attending services at St. James RC Church on James Street in Lower Manhattan tomorrow? I so, I would be ever so greatful if someone take a picture of the church. I would reimburse you for any costs involved. I have been unable to find any photos online. Thank you, Ro Rose Mary A.(Mc Grath)Neal Rose Mary A.(Mc Grath)Neal ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== To post a message to the Irish-New-York-City list, please send your email to: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Just now got the message about John Ridge's tour of lower Manhattan and even if I weren't in Michigan, visiting our daughter and her family, I still couldn't have made it since home these days is LA and, oh yeah, it's Dec. 5, four days after the event. For all that, I would have loved to join the stroll. Not all Irish who emigrated to NYC were Catholic. My GM, as Irish as they come, was Catholic but my GF was Scots-Irish Presbyterian. My understanding is that more than a few of our forebears were Protestants and is there anyone there in Mr. Ridge's organization who might be able to help those of us descended from, gasp!, mixed marriages, to trace their ancestry? Best regards and Happy Holidays, George Alexander

City Hall Area Walking Tour A tour of historic sites within walking distance of City Hall on Saturday, December 1, presented by the New York Irish History Roundtable, will be led principally by John Ridge, our Vice President for Local History. Occasional contributions will be offered by Charles Laverty, President. Among the places to be visited are 165 William Street, where John Devoy published the weekly Gaelic American from 1903 until his death in 1928 and where he led the nationwide Irish Republican Brotherhood/Clan na Gael conspiracy and funding that culminated in the Easter Rising in Dublin, 1916. Directly across the street at 164 William Street is the William H. Sadlier, Inc. publishing house, famous for its early novels, general books, and textbooks for Catholic readers. The firm is still in business after 170 years. It became known in its early years for bestsellers by the immigrant from Cavan, Mary Anne Madden Sadlier, who produced a phenomenal sixty titles addressing issues of domestic servants, immigration, famine, historical romances, Western pioneers, and grammar-school catechisms. Other historic places to be visited are St. Peter's at Church and Barclay streets, New York's oldest Catholic church, and the nearby St. Paul's Episcopal Chapel on Vesey Street and Broadway. Here we'll view the Gaelic inscription on the William J. MacNeven monument executed by a member of the Gaelic-speaking Draddy family of sculptors from Kerry. Also here on Broadway was Jeremiah O'Donovan Rossa's first New York business, a travel agency on Broadway at Murray Street. On Chambers Street, on the same block as the Emigrant Savings Bank, was the Draft Office commanded briefly by County Down-born Colonel Robert Nugent of the Irish Brigade before the outbreak of the 1863 Draft Riots. Nugent's home was pillaged and burned by the mob during the riots. Also on Chambers Street was the office of the Irish-language weekly newspaper The Gael and the office of the lawyer-historian Michael Doheny from Tipperary, an escapee from the failed 1848 rising. By 1851, Doheny would organize a New York militia unit, the 69th Infantry, and later, on St. Patrick's Day, 1858, the Fenian Brotherhood at his office just north of Foley Square at 6 Centre Street. The assembly point for this walking tour of about two hours (rain or shine) will be at the City Hall Guard's Booth on the east side of Broadway, opposite Murray Street, Saturday, December 1, at 2 p.m. The tour requires two hours of walking on sidewalks.

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The Military Commissions Act of 2006 effectively eliminated habeas corpus for non-citizens, including legal resident aliens .... U.S CITIZENS STILL HAVE THE RIGHT OF HABEAS CORPUS. Article I, Section 9, of the Constitution states that "the privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen" <mcshelly2@msn.com> To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 2:38 AM Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Municipal Archives questions - Court andCoroner'srecords > Thank goodness we had habeas corpus in those days. > Sure wish we could have it restored now, it was such > a great Right in our Bill of Rights and we've lost it! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sue Clement > To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 11:07 AM > Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Municipal Archives questions - Court and > Coroner'srecords > > > According to the NYC municipal archives website, these two types of > records > are available on microfilm. Has anyone ever accessed any of these > records, > either in person or by mail? I am trying to determine what might be the > best > way to view records for: > > 1) 1885 - a criminal assault with possibly death resulting, where > the > Coroner took a deposition from the victim prior to his possible death > when > his condition was termed "fatal" > > 2) 1889 - a court case where an officer of the Children's Society > took > children away from the parents and a hearing was held in Harlem Police > Court > to determine if parents were fit. The children were sent to St. Anne's > home, > but a writ of habeas corpus was issued to return the children > > Any help or suggestions regarding how best to access these records would > be > welcome. > > > > Sue Clement > > Visit our websites > > Southern New England Irish > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ussnei > > Cummins Families in County Carlow, Ireland > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummins/ > <http://www.freepages.rootsweb.com/cummins> > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank goodness we had habeas corpus in those days. Sure wish we could have it restored now, it was such a great Right in our Bill of Rights and we've lost it! ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Clement To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 11:07 AM Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Municipal Archives questions - Court and Coroner'srecords According to the NYC municipal archives website, these two types of records are available on microfilm. Has anyone ever accessed any of these records, either in person or by mail? I am trying to determine what might be the best way to view records for: 1) 1885 - a criminal assault with possibly death resulting, where the Coroner took a deposition from the victim prior to his possible death when his condition was termed "fatal" 2) 1889 - a court case where an officer of the Children's Society took children away from the parents and a hearing was held in Harlem Police Court to determine if parents were fit. The children were sent to St. Anne's home, but a writ of habeas corpus was issued to return the children Any help or suggestions regarding how best to access these records would be welcome. Sue Clement Visit our websites Southern New England Irish http://www.rootsweb.com/~ussnei Cummins Families in County Carlow, Ireland http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummins/ <http://www.freepages.rootsweb.com/cummins> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> [Original Message] > From: <irish-new-york-city-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> > Date: 11/18/2007 3:20:09 AM > Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 104 > I obtained a Chief Medical Examiner report from 1921 but I had the death certificate so I had the date of death and proof that the medical examiner was involved. I'm not sure if they will do a search without details. You may have to visit or hire someone. It is always difficult when you do not live in the area. Veronica > 3. Municipal Archives questions - Court and Coroner's records > (Sue Clement) > >> Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:07:28 -0500 > From: "Sue Clement" <sneirish@comcast.net> > Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Municipal Archives questions - Court and > Coroner's records > To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <004701c8293c$55886d80$6401a8c0@your55e5f9e3d2> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > According to the NYC municipal archives website, these two types of records > are available on microfilm. Has anyone ever accessed any of these records, > either in person or by mail? I am trying to determine what might be the best > way to view records for: > > 1) 1885 - a criminal assault with possibly death resulting, where the > Coroner took a deposition from the victim prior to his possible death when > his condition was termed "fatal" > > 2) 1889 - a court case where an officer of the Children's Society took > children away from the parents and a hearing was held in Harlem Police Court > to determine if parents were fit. The children were sent to St. Anne's home, > but a writ of habeas corpus was issued to return the children > > Any help or suggestions regarding how best to access these records would be > welcome. > > > > Sue Clement > > Visit our websites > > Southern New England Irish > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ussnei > > Cummins Families in County Carlow, Ireland > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummins/ > <http://www.freepages.rootsweb.com/cummins> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY list administrator, send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY mailing list, send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 104 > ***************************************************

According to the NYC municipal archives website, these two types of records are available on microfilm. Has anyone ever accessed any of these records, either in person or by mail? I am trying to determine what might be the best way to view records for: 1) 1885 - a criminal assault with possibly death resulting, where the Coroner took a deposition from the victim prior to his possible death when his condition was termed "fatal" 2) 1889 - a court case where an officer of the Children's Society took children away from the parents and a hearing was held in Harlem Police Court to determine if parents were fit. The children were sent to St. Anne's home, but a writ of habeas corpus was issued to return the children Any help or suggestions regarding how best to access these records would be welcome. Sue Clement Visit our websites Southern New England Irish http://www.rootsweb.com/~ussnei Cummins Families in County Carlow, Ireland http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummins/ <http://www.freepages.rootsweb.com/cummins>

Thank you to the people who answered me about the question below. I still struggling to find any information about her, as I said before I am very limited in my resources. Could somebody please give me some advice on shipping lists, as I have tried www.findmypast.com here in the uk but the list dates seem to be too late. Again any advice would be gratefully recieved Debbi -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi, I am trying to find some information about my x2 great grandfather's sister and try to figure out why it came that she moved to the USA from England, as far as I can tell, with the information I have, on here own. Her name was Mary Ellen Eaton (Father: John Eaton, Mother: Bridget Eaton nee Corrigan). She was born c1856 in Ireland but lived mostly in Manchester, England with her parents (I found them in the 1861 census). I have been unable, with my very limited resources, to find her on a shipping list to see who she may have travelled with. When in the USA she married a Timothy James Sullivan (Born: Massachusetts. Father: Jeremiah Sullivan, Mother: Elizabeth Lovett, both his parents were Irish) at Nativity Church, on the 10th Nov 1878, Manhatten, New York, New York. I have also found them on the 1880 United States census on West 49th Street, Manhatten, New York. This is the only information/records I have been able to find on her and I would be extremely grateful for any help or advice anybody could give me, as I would love to know some more information/records about her and how she came to live in the US, but I have never researched any family history in the US before. Thank you Debbi

Have you tried www.castlegarden.org yet? If she entered the US through New York prior to 1892, then she would have gone through the Castle Garden immigration center. This website is free and allows you to search by name and years. Melanie Orlando ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbi Powell" <debbipowell@btinternet.com> To: <IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 7:00 AM Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Information on Mary Ellen Sullivan nee Eaton > Thank you to the people who answered me about the question below. I still > struggling to find any information about her, as I said before I am very > limited in my resources. > > Could somebody please give me some advice on shipping lists, as I have > tried www.findmypast.com here in the uk but the list dates seem to be too > late. > > Again any advice would be gratefully recieved > > Debbi > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Hi, > > I am trying to find some information about my x2 great grandfather's > sister and try to figure out why it came that she moved to the USA from > England, as far as I can tell, with the information I have, on here own. > > Her name was Mary Ellen Eaton (Father: John Eaton, Mother: Bridget Eaton > nee Corrigan). She was born c1856 in Ireland but lived mostly in > Manchester, England with her parents (I found them in the 1861 census). I > have been unable, with my very limited resources, to find her on a > shipping list to see who she may have travelled with. > > When in the USA she married a Timothy James Sullivan (Born: Massachusetts. > Father: Jeremiah Sullivan, Mother: Elizabeth Lovett, both his parents were > Irish) at Nativity Church, on the 10th Nov 1878, Manhatten, New York, New > York. I have also found them on the 1880 United States census on West 49th > Street, Manhatten, New York. > > This is the only information/records I have been able to find on her and I > would be extremely grateful for any help or advice anybody could give me, > as I would love to know some more information/records about her and how > she came to live in the US, but I have never researched any family history > in the US before. > > Thank you > > Debbi > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, I am trying to find some information about my x2 great grandfather's sister and try to figure out why it came that she moved to the USA from England, as far as I can tell, with the information I have, on here own. Her name was Mary Ellen Eaton (Father: John Eaton, Mother: Bridget Eaton nee Corrigan). She was born c1856 in Ireland but lived mostly in Manchester, England (found in the 1861 census). I have been unable, with my very limited resources, to find her on a shipping list to see who she may have travelled with. When in the USA she married a Timothy James Sullivan (Born: Massachusetts. Father: Jeremiah Sullivan, Mother: Elizabeth Lovett, both his parents were Irish) at Nativity Church, on the 10th Nov 1878, Manhatten, New York, New York. I have also found them on the 1880 United States census on West 49th Street, Manhatten, New York. This is the only information/records I have been able to find on her and I would be extremely grateful for any help or advice anybody could give me, as I would love to know some more information/records about her and how she came to live in the US, but I have never researched any family history in the US before. Thank you Debbi

You can also research, be certain of the certificates for your family, and then order through LDS for $2.00. That was my plan when I visited the Archives but I ended up paying for most of the copies through them. Municipal Archives actually only charged $6.00/copy in September when ordering in person (less than what their website says) but they are $10 + shipping when ordered online. The microfilm readers are first come first serve, but there was plenty of room when I was there. Going early is best. Melanie Orlando ----- Original Message ----- From: "Genie Coats" <coatsgenie@nc.rr.com> To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 101 > Are you saying if you go to the Municpal Archives in person, they will let > you browse for $5 and have copies made for only $2? What a deal. All you > have to do is get there and pay for room and board. > > Is an appointment with them necessary? > > Genie from Raleigh > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <irish-new-york-city-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 2:19 AM > Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 101 > > >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: NYC Records from LDS (Melanie) >> 2. Petitions for Naturalization (Melanie) >> 3. Re: NYC Records from LDS (LookingBack45@aol.com) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 09:15:17 -0400 >> From: "Melanie" <megan@cfl.rr.com> >> Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] NYC Records from LDS >> To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <084601c81e1b$93f02bc0$020ba8c0@LAPTOPEGAN> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> If you are not certain that the marriage certificate is for the right >> person, try putting that marriage information into www.familysearch.org . >> I've been able to narrow down the possibilities that way. Often, a few >> of >> the names will display and will show either parent names or place of >> birth >> or some other fact that will rule out my family member. I just tried >> that >> last night for my Elizabeth Curtis. Out of 5 possibilities from >> www.italiangen.org, I was able to eliminate 2 because the parents of the >> bride were not my ancestors. >> >> I was able to visit NY in September and spent two days at the Municipal >> Archives. It was amazing to be able to look through the certificates >> myself >> with just a $5 fee, rather than to blindly order possibilities. But I >> couldn't get to everyone so now I'm back to ordering the $2 certificates >> in >> the hope that they do turn out to be one my great-uncles or aunts. Good >> luck! >> >> Melanie >> Orlando >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Frank McCullough" <frank@ap.net> >> To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 1:31 AM >> Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] NYC Records from LDS >> >> >>>I have sourced the film #s many times online & ordered the films at my >>> local LDS FHC, but didn't know I could have the certs copied for me at >>> LDS for such a reasonable price...I have located the request form, >>> downloaded it & put together my first order. I'll let you know how it >>> goes. >>> >>> I have 5 siblings of my Grt & Grt Grt Grandparents to find. All are >>> females. So I have to go through the process of elimination...deaths & >>> marriages. There are about 40 differents possibilities on the different >>> indexes. If you look at my last name I can tell you I've found it >>> spelled a dozen different ways. That is a lot of certs to buy. Renting >>> the different films now isn't much less than just ordering the certs >>> from NYC. This deal with LDS really makes sense. >>> >>> Thanks for everyone's help. >>> >>> Frank McCullough >>> >>> >>> >>> Melanie wrote: >>> >>>>Ordering the first time from LDS is confusing but once you get the hang >>>>of >>>>it, it can save you lots of money! >>>> >>>>To order copies of death or marriage certificates from LDS, first look >>>>up >>>>the certificate number and year on the databases at italiangen.org. >>>>Then go to www.familysearch.org and click on Forms (right hand side) >>>>Click on Request for Photocopies: Census, Books, Microfilm, Microfiche >>>>and >>>>print off this form. (When you get your response, they will send you >>>>more >>>>blank forms, so you only have to do this once) >>>>Next, fill in your name and address and credit card information on the >>>>front >>>>of the form. On the back middle section labeled, General Microfilm or >>>>Microfiche, you'll start to print the information you need. Fill in the >>>>Name of Individual, Certificate #, Event Type, Date, and County (such as >>>>Manhattan). >>>>Now for the hard part. You need to find the microfilm reel number. >>>>Go back to www.familysearch.org and click on Family History Library >>>>Catalogue on the top bar. >>>>Next, select Place Search >>>>Under both "Place" and "Part of", type in New York and click Search. >>>>Select: New York, New York (City) >>>>On the next screen, look for "New York, New York (City) - Vital >>>>Records" - >>>>to get there, click "View next set of matching topics" and scroll toward >>>>the >>>>end. >>>>When you click on it, a bunch of different types of records will >>>>display. >>>>Click on the type of record, county, and time period you want. >>>>A description of the records will display. Click on "View Film Notes" >>>>in >>>>the upper left hand corner. >>>>Now you are at the actual reels. Look for the year and certificate # >>>>range >>>>you want. Be careful because LDS needs the right reel. >>>>Write the reel number in the first column of your form. They are >>>>usually >>>>a >>>>7 digit number. >>>> >>>>You can request up to 8 certificates at a time. I've found it very easy >>>>to >>>>fax the request to the number on the front of the form. I usually get a >>>>response in two weeks. >>>> >>>>Birth certificates are harder because certificate numbers are not >>>>usually >>>>online. If you do have one from Ancestry or another source, you can >>>>follow >>>>these same instructions to order. You can also order the page of the >>>>birth >>>>index. Find the reel that contains the birth index for the year/name >>>>that >>>>you need. LDS will send the page with the name you requested. If the >>>>birth >>>>is on there, you can then order the certificate on your next request. A >>>>little slower but it is still cheaper than the Municipal Archives. >>>> >>>>Melanie >>>>Orlando >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>------------------------------- >>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 09:38:04 -0400 >> From: "Melanie" <megan@cfl.rr.com> >> Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Petitions for Naturalization >> To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <085001c81e1e$c36e7f70$020ba8c0@LAPTOPEGAN> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> I was able to find copies of the Petition for Naturalization for several >> of >> my NYC ancestors on Ancestry.com. If anyone is familiar with these, I >> had >> a >> couple of questions. Is it possible to order the full document showing >> naturalization using this information, or must this be researched in >> person >> at the NARA office in NYC? Also, would those papers offer any more >> information than the Petition does? >> >> Melanie >> Orlando >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 09:49:35 EDT >> From: LookingBack45@aol.com >> Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] NYC Records from LDS >> To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <c1f.21543284.345dd66f@aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> >> In a message dated 11/3/2007 9:16:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> megan@cfl.rr.com writes: >> >> >> I was able to visit NY in September and spent two days at the Municipal >> Archives. It was amazing to be able to look through the certificates >> myself >> with just a $5 fee, rather than to blindly order possibilities. But I >> couldn't get to everyone so now I'm back to ordering the $2 certificates >> in >> the hope that they do turn out to be one my great-uncles or aunts. >> >> >> That's wonderful that you were able to go to NY and research. I'm kind >> of >> in the same situation and I am using the copies to eliminate marriages >> for my >> grandparents. You can also compare the numbers against each other in >> the >> database at the Italian research site. Figuring that out helped me a >> lot. I'm >> really just getting back to doing research after several years off, so >> I'm >> finding that many things have changed. >> >> Dee - searching Rolston/Rollston, Clendenning, Ennis >> >> >> >> ************************************** See what's new at >> http://www.aol.com >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY list administrator, send an email to >> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY mailing list, send an email >> to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body >> of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 101 >> *************************************************** >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Maureen, Sorry, but like so many other things, the price has gone up. Certs are now $10, per the Muni Archives site. (http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vitalrecords/home.shtml) Maureen in NJ On Nov 4, 2007 2:17 PM, Maureen OConnell <maurpat@optonline.net> wrote: > Genie > > Last time I was there, it's $5.00 to search for the day. > Certificates, which you can see before you buy, were $5.00 each. > Still a bargain. The staff is very helpful. It's a gorgeous old > building. Good Luck. > > Maureen from New York >

Genie Last time I was there, it's $5.00 to search for the day. Certificates, which you can see before you buy, were $5.00 each. Still a bargain. The staff is very helpful. It's a gorgeous old building. Good Luck. Maureen from New York On Nov 4, 2007, at 11:45 AM, Genie Coats wrote: > Are you saying if you go to the Municpal Archives in person, they > will let > you browse for $5 and have copies made for only $2? What a deal. All > you > have to do is get there and pay for room and board. > > Is an appointment with them necessary? > > Genie from Raleigh > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <irish-new-york-city-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 2:19 AM > Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 101 > > >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: NYC Records from LDS (Melanie) >> 2. Petitions for Naturalization (Melanie) >> 3. Re: NYC Records from LDS (LookingBack45@aol.com) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 09:15:17 -0400 >> From: "Melanie" <megan@cfl.rr.com> >> Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] NYC Records from LDS >> To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <084601c81e1b$93f02bc0$020ba8c0@LAPTOPEGAN> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> If you are not certain that the marriage certificate is for the right >> person, try putting that marriage information into www.familysearch.org >> . >> I've been able to narrow down the possibilities that way. Often, a >> few of >> the names will display and will show either parent names or place >> of birth >> or some other fact that will rule out my family member. I just >> tried that >> last night for my Elizabeth Curtis. Out of 5 possibilities from >> www.italiangen.org, I was able to eliminate 2 because the parents >> of the >> bride were not my ancestors. >> >> I was able to visit NY in September and spent two days at the >> Municipal >> Archives. It was amazing to be able to look through the certificates >> myself >> with just a $5 fee, rather than to blindly order possibilities. >> But I >> couldn't get to everyone so now I'm back to ordering the $2 >> certificates >> in >> the hope that they do turn out to be one my great-uncles or aunts. >> Good >> luck! >> >> Melanie >> Orlando >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Frank McCullough" <frank@ap.net> >> To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 1:31 AM >> Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] NYC Records from LDS >> >> >>> I have sourced the film #s many times online & ordered the films >>> at my >>> local LDS FHC, but didn't know I could have the certs copied for >>> me at >>> LDS for such a reasonable price...I have located the request form, >>> downloaded it & put together my first order. I'll let you know how >>> it >>> goes. >>> >>> I have 5 siblings of my Grt & Grt Grt Grandparents to find. All are >>> females. So I have to go through the process of >>> elimination...deaths & >>> marriages. There are about 40 differents possibilities on the >>> different >>> indexes. If you look at my last name I can tell you I've found it >>> spelled a dozen different ways. That is a lot of certs to buy. >>> Renting >>> the different films now isn't much less than just ordering the certs >>> from NYC. This deal with LDS really makes sense. >>> >>> Thanks for everyone's help. >>> >>> Frank McCullough >>> >>> >>> >>> Melanie wrote: >>> >>>> Ordering the first time from LDS is confusing but once you get >>>> the hang >>>> of >>>> it, it can save you lots of money! >>>> >>>> To order copies of death or marriage certificates from LDS, first >>>> look up >>>> the certificate number and year on the databases at italiangen.org. >>>> Then go to www.familysearch.org and click on Forms (right hand >>>> side) >>>> Click on Request for Photocopies: Census, Books, Microfilm, >>>> Microfiche >>>> and >>>> print off this form. (When you get your response, they will send >>>> you >>>> more >>>> blank forms, so you only have to do this once) >>>> Next, fill in your name and address and credit card information >>>> on the >>>> front >>>> of the form. On the back middle section labeled, General >>>> Microfilm or >>>> Microfiche, you'll start to print the information you need. Fill >>>> in the >>>> Name of Individual, Certificate #, Event Type, Date, and County >>>> (such as >>>> Manhattan). >>>> Now for the hard part. You need to find the microfilm reel number. >>>> Go back to www.familysearch.org and click on Family History Library >>>> Catalogue on the top bar. >>>> Next, select Place Search >>>> Under both "Place" and "Part of", type in New York and click >>>> Search. >>>> Select: New York, New York (City) >>>> On the next screen, look for "New York, New York (City) - Vital >>>> Records" - >>>> to get there, click "View next set of matching topics" and scroll >>>> toward >>>> the >>>> end. >>>> When you click on it, a bunch of different types of records will >>>> display. >>>> Click on the type of record, county, and time period you want. >>>> A description of the records will display. Click on "View Film >>>> Notes" in >>>> the upper left hand corner. >>>> Now you are at the actual reels. Look for the year and >>>> certificate # >>>> range >>>> you want. Be careful because LDS needs the right reel. >>>> Write the reel number in the first column of your form. They are >>>> usually >>>> a >>>> 7 digit number. >>>> >>>> You can request up to 8 certificates at a time. I've found it >>>> very easy >>>> to >>>> fax the request to the number on the front of the form. I >>>> usually get a >>>> response in two weeks. >>>> >>>> Birth certificates are harder because certificate numbers are not >>>> usually >>>> online. If you do have one from Ancestry or another source, you >>>> can >>>> follow >>>> these same instructions to order. You can also order the page of >>>> the >>>> birth >>>> index. Find the reel that contains the birth index for the year/ >>>> name >>>> that >>>> you need. LDS will send the page with the name you requested. >>>> If the >>>> birth >>>> is on there, you can then order the certificate on your next >>>> request. A >>>> little slower but it is still cheaper than the Municipal Archives. >>>> >>>> Melanie >>>> Orlando >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>>> 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 09:38:04 -0400 >> From: "Melanie" <megan@cfl.rr.com> >> Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Petitions for Naturalization >> To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <085001c81e1e$c36e7f70$020ba8c0@LAPTOPEGAN> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> I was able to find copies of the Petition for Naturalization for >> several >> of >> my NYC ancestors on Ancestry.com. If anyone is familiar with >> these, I had >> a >> couple of questions. Is it possible to order the full document >> showing >> naturalization using this information, or must this be researched in >> person >> at the NARA office in NYC? Also, would those papers offer any more >> information than the Petition does? >> >> Melanie >> Orlando >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 09:49:35 EDT >> From: LookingBack45@aol.com >> Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] NYC Records from LDS >> To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <c1f.21543284.345dd66f@aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> >> In a message dated 11/3/2007 9:16:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> megan@cfl.rr.com writes: >> >> >> I was able to visit NY in September and spent two days at the >> Municipal >> Archives. It was amazing to be able to look through the certificates >> myself >> with just a $5 fee, rather than to blindly order possibilities. >> But I >> couldn't get to everyone so now I'm back to ordering the $2 >> certificates >> in >> the hope that they do turn out to be one my great-uncles or aunts. >> >> >> That's wonderful that you were able to go to NY and research. I'm >> kind >> of >> in the same situation and I am using the copies to eliminate >> marriages >> for my >> grandparents. You can also compare the numbers against each other >> in the >> database at the Italian research site. Figuring that out helped >> me a >> lot. I'm >> really just getting back to doing research after several years >> off, so >> I'm >> finding that many things have changed. >> >> Dee - searching Rolston/Rollston, Clendenning, Ennis >> >> >> >> ************************************** See what's new at >> http://www.aol.com >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY list administrator, send an >> email to >> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY mailing list, send an >> email >> to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and >> the body >> of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 101 >> *************************************************** >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message