Mostly everyone calls it "The Bronx". Good question on why tho! Maybe it was considered many municipalities in one whereas Brooklyn and Queens are single entities?? hmmm On 4/10/08, Don Haney <pdhaney@comcast.net> wrote: > > All of my Irish friends and relatives always refer to "The Bronx" but > never > to "The Brooklyn" or "The Queens". > > Why? > > Don > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
All of my Irish friends and relatives always refer to "The Bronx" but never to "The Brooklyn" or "The Queens". Why? Don
Because there is always an attempt in the USA to keep our various Congressional Districts, Assembly Districts, and other such Districts -- like your town council districts -- as equal in population as possible, so that each person's vote counts as much as any other person's vote, the boundaries of those Districts tend to change after every Census because people are moving around, leaving older areas, moving into newer areas, moving back to inner cities now, etc., etc. No one wants to be in a representative district with 30,000 voters if the next district has only 5,000 voters! Not fair, we would cry! In this house I have lived in two Congressional districts without moving. The boundaries of my first Congressional District are now all in the next county, which has gone from rural to suburban in the past 35 years! The boundary of my newer district now runs down the middle of my street -- so I figure after the 2010 Census, that will probably change some way, too! The Federal Census Enumeration Districts are redrawn before every federal Census, every 10 years. Sometimes they work around the old districts, just moving and changing the boundaries as needed. Sometimes they start from scratch and redo the entire map -- and that is why a house in ED #1328 the last time is in ED #2704 this time. With computers, I imagine they just totally redo it every time as it would be far less time-consuming and more accurate in the long run. MaureenResearching: Costello (Galway and Mayo), Cotter, Durcan/Durkin, Higgins, Lynch, Raftree/Raftery (Galway), Shannon, Sullivan, Amacher, Baur, Bove, Cremer, Ehlen, Fischer, Gansberg, Giefer, Hamacher, Hense/Henseler, Hofmann/Hoeffeler, Jackler/Jackelen, Jaegers, Koch, Kratz, Krebs, Marlo/Marlot/Morlo, Mueller/Meller, Mertes, Pick, Reetz, Rheinges,Reichardt/Reichert, Rick, Schmieden, Seitz/Zeidt, vonAlleman/Vollerman, vonMeer, Weiskopf, Zens, Albright, Compton, Corselius, Clemens/Clements, Daly (Galway), Early, Fallon (Galway), Greene (Waterford), Callaghan, Fitzgerald, McGrath (Waterford), Moss, Mullenix/Mullinax, Prichard, Reilly/O'Riley/Reiley, Shelly, Shook, Tye.> From: marycolbert07@msn.com> To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:38:55 -0400> Subject: [IRISH-NYC] voter registration records> > > Yes, I had success with voter registration records - I got the 1890 records for my great grandfather. It included information on his naturalization and this allowed me to confirm that a naturalization record I already had was his. You have to order the records in advance - Leonora Gidlund" <lgidlund@records.nyc.gov>. I was told to state the name, year, and AD and ED. Keep the email that confirms they records are in. I ordered several but some are missing. When I went to the archives I was told at first that all the records I had requested were missing. I showed my email and the man went in the other room and talked to someone and she found the 3 records that were available. As far as the AD and ED that I found more difficult. The archives do not have this information. I was told to go to the public library but they didn't have the maps available the day I went. I believe they do change but I don't know how frequently. Mary> From: irish-new-york-city-request@rootswe!> b.com> Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 70> To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:18:33 -0600> > > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: NY TB sanitarium early 1900's (Wandle2@aol.com)> 2. Voter Registration Records (Melanie Egan)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > > >-type=original> > Has anyone used older (1870's - 1920) voter registration records for NYC > with success? I understand that the Municipal Archives has these records > and that a year (preferably presidential election year) and an Assembly > District/Election District must be provided. I have the AD/ED for several > of my ancestors from my research for the 1890 police census. Does anyone > know if these are likely to have changed much if I researched 1888 or 1892? > Any advice about this area of research would be appreciated.> > Melanie Egan> Orlando FL > > > > > ------------------------------> > To contact the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY lis!> t administrator, send an email to> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-admin@rootsweb.> com.> > To post a message to the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY mailing list, send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com.> > __________________________________________________________> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the> email with no additional text.> > > End of IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 70> **************************************************> _________________________________________________________________> Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger.> http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_042008> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The Enumeration District and the New York City Assembly District are right at the top on the Census page, above all the rest of the information. The E.D. is all the way over on the right side. The A.D. is where it says "Borough of Manhattan" or whatever Borough your person resided in, followed by the Ward and the Assembly District. Anyone who has a Census subscription like Ancestry.com can very easily look it up. If your public library has Ancestry.com or any one of the other companies like Heritage Quest that carries the Census (and most libraries do) you can easily look it up. You can subscribe to Ancestry for one month and get all your people. At worst, if you have only one or two people, ask someone on this list who has a Census subscription at Ancestry to look it up for you!Researching: Costello (Galway and Mayo), Cotter, Durcan/Durkin, Higgins, Lynch, Raftree/Raftery (Galway), Shannon, Sullivan, Amacher, Baur, Bove, Cremer, Ehlen, Fischer, Gansberg, Giefer, Hamacher, Hense/Henseler, Hofmann/Hoeffeler, Jackler/Jackelen, Jaegers, Koch, Kratz, Krebs, Marlo/Marlot/Morlo, Mueller/Meller, Mertes, Pick, Reetz, Rheinges,Reichardt/Reichert, Rick, Schmieden, Seitz/Zeidt, vonAlleman/Vollerman, vonMeer, Weiskopf, Zens, Albright, Compton, Corselius, Clemens/Clements, Daly (Galway), Early, Fallon (Galway), Greene (Waterford), Callaghan, Fitzgerald, McGrath (Waterford), Moss, Mullenix/Mullinax, Prichard, Reilly/O'Riley/Reiley, Shelly, Shook, Tye.> From: jmnorthern@comcast.net> To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 07:04:27 -0700> Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] voter registration records> > Are the Voter Registration Cards a onetime registration for the applicant?.> In other words, when ordering the card(s), do you provide E.D.'s for all of> the years and the Archives searches all years for any existing Registration?> It sounds like you provided an E.D. for 1890 and they searched and found a> registration for 1890.> > Joseph Martin> Vacaville, Ca> > -----Original Message-----> From: irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com> [mailto:irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary Colbert> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 6:39 AM> To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Subject: [IRISH-NYC] voter registration records> > > Yes, I had success with voter registration records - I got the 1890 records> for my great grandfather. It included information on his naturalization and> this allowed me to confirm that a naturalization record I already had was> his. You have to order the records in advance - Leonora Gidlund"> <lgidlund@records.nyc.gov>. I was told to state the name, year, and AD and> ED. Keep the email that confirms they records are in. I ordered several but> some are missing. When I went to the archives I was told at first that all> the records I had requested were missing. I showed my email and the man> went in the other room and talked to someone and she found the 3 records> that were available. As far as the AD and ED that I found more difficult.> The archives do not have this information. I was told to go to the public> library but they didn't have the maps available the day I went. I believe> they do change but I don't know how frequently. Mary> From:> irish-new-york-city-request@rootswe!> b.com> Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 70> To:> irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:18:33 -0600> > >> > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: NY TB sanitarium early 1900's (Wandle2@aol.com)>> 2. Voter Registration Records (Melanie Egan)> > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > >> >-type=original> > Has anyone used older (1870's - 1920) voter registration> records for NYC > with success? I understand that the Municipal Archives has> these records > and that a year (preferably presidential election year) and> an Assembly > District/Election District must be provided. I have the AD/ED> for several > of my ancestors from my research for the 1890 police census.> Does anyone > know if these are likely to have changed much if I researched> 1888 or 1892? > Any advice about this area of research would be> appreciated.> > Melanie Egan> Orlando FL > > > > >> ------------------------------> > To contact the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY lis!> t administrator, send an email to> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-admin@rootsweb.> com.> > To post a message to the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY mailing list, send an> email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com.> >> __________________________________________________________> To unsubscribe> from the list, please send an email to> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe"> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the> email with no> additional text.> > > End of IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 70>> **************************************************> _________________________________________________________________> Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger.> http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL> _Refresh_messenger_video_042008> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Yes, I had success with voter registration records - I got the 1890 records for my great grandfather. It included information on his naturalization and this allowed me to confirm that a naturalization record I already had was his. You have to order the records in advance - Leonora Gidlund" <lgidlund@records.nyc.gov>. I was told to state the name, year, and AD and ED. Keep the email that confirms they records are in. I ordered several but some are missing. When I went to the archives I was told at first that all the records I had requested were missing. I showed my email and the man went in the other room and talked to someone and she found the 3 records that were available. As far as the AD and ED that I found more difficult. The archives do not have this information. I was told to go to the public library but they didn't have the maps available the day I went. I believe they do change but I don't know how frequently. Mary> From: irish-new-york-city-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 70> To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:18:33 -0600> > > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: NY TB sanitarium early 1900's (Wandle2@aol.com)> 2. Voter Registration Records (Melanie Egan)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > > >-type=original> > Has anyone used older (1870's - 1920) voter registration records for NYC > with success? I understand that the Municipal Archives has these records > and that a year (preferably presidential election year) and an Assembly > District/Election District must be provided. I have the AD/ED for several > of my ancestors from my research for the 1890 police census. Does anyone > know if these are likely to have changed much if I researched 1888 or 1892? > Any advice about this area of research would be appreciated.> > Melanie Egan> Orlando FL > > > > > ------------------------------> > To contact the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY list administrator, send an email to> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-admin@rootsweb.com.> > To post a message to the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY mailing list, send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com.> > __________________________________________________________> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the> email with no additional text.> > > End of IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 70> ************************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_042008
Apparently the area was known by the name of the family that owned a large parcel of land there...The name was Bronk and I think "Bronx" came about as if "going to the Bronk's place". Frank Liz Haren wrote: >Mostly everyone calls it "The Bronx". Good question on why tho! Maybe it >was considered many municipalities in one whereas Brooklyn and Queens are >single entities?? hmmm > >On 4/10/08, Don Haney <pdhaney@comcast.net> wrote: > > >>All of my Irish friends and relatives always refer to "The Bronx" but >>never >>to "The Brooklyn" or "The Queens". >> >>Why? >> >>Don >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >
Are the Voter Registration Cards a onetime registration for the applicant?. In other words, when ordering the card(s), do you provide E.D.'s for all of the years and the Archives searches all years for any existing Registration? It sounds like you provided an E.D. for 1890 and they searched and found a registration for 1890. Joseph Martin Vacaville, Ca -----Original Message----- From: irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary Colbert Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 6:39 AM To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRISH-NYC] voter registration records Yes, I had success with voter registration records - I got the 1890 records for my great grandfather. It included information on his naturalization and this allowed me to confirm that a naturalization record I already had was his. You have to order the records in advance - Leonora Gidlund" <lgidlund@records.nyc.gov>. I was told to state the name, year, and AD and ED. Keep the email that confirms they records are in. I ordered several but some are missing. When I went to the archives I was told at first that all the records I had requested were missing. I showed my email and the man went in the other room and talked to someone and she found the 3 records that were available. As far as the AD and ED that I found more difficult. The archives do not have this information. I was told to go to the public library but they didn't have the maps available the day I went. I believe they do change but I don't know how frequently. Mary> From: irish-new-york-city-request@rootswe! b.com> Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 70> To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:18:33 -0600> > > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: NY TB sanitarium early 1900's (Wandle2@aol.com)> 2. Voter Registration Records (Melanie Egan)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > > >-type=original> > Has anyone used older (1870's - 1920) voter registration records for NYC > with success? I understand that the Municipal Archives has these records > and that a year (preferably presidential election year) and an Assembly > District/Election District must be provided. I have the AD/ED for several > of my ancestors from my research for the 1890 police census. Does anyone > know if these are likely to have changed much if I researched 1888 or 1892? > Any advice about this area of research would be appreciated.> > Melanie Egan> Orlando FL > > > > > ------------------------------> > To contact the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY lis! t administrator, send an email to> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-admin@rootsweb. com.> > To post a message to the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY mailing list, send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com.> > __________________________________________________________> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the> email with no additional text.> > > End of IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 70> ************************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL _Refresh_messenger_video_042008 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Has anyone used older (1870's - 1920) voter registration records for NYC with success? I understand that the Municipal Archives has these records and that a year (preferably presidential election year) and an Assembly District/Election District must be provided. I have the AD/ED for several of my ancestors from my research for the 1890 police census. Does anyone know if these are likely to have changed much if I researched 1888 or 1892? Any advice about this area of research would be appreciated. Melanie Egan Orlando FL
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Would they even allow someone to volunteer? On 4/4/08, Maureen <mcshelly2@msn.com> wrote: > > Many parishes no longer have secretaries -- or have them just a few hours > a week -- and no one to do the work you are asking of them. Their first > responsibility is to minister to their current parishioners. It would be > great if some of our members who live within easy distance could volunteer > to handle requests at these city parishes one day a week -- but the parishes > simply cannot afford to underwrite the expenses of our hobby. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michelle and Kevin Cassidy > To: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:23 PM > Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Mailing Requests > > > I was wondering what is the turn around for written replies on the list? > > I have sent several requests out over the last year by postal mail. > The letters that go to governmental agencies all arrive without > problems and I receive a reply in a timely manner. > > Most parish requests also arrive without problem and are replied to > in a timely manner as well. I have had a few letters that have not > reached the parish or that have been misplaced. I always send SASE > along with private requests like churches but do not usually do so > with the government offices. > > Is there something about a thicker envelope being sent to NYC that > raises suspicion or clogs a mailing belt in the post office? I have > had to cancel three checks and was is it the parish office, the post > office or something else? > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Many parishes no longer have secretaries -- or have them just a few hours a week -- and no one to do the work you are asking of them. Their first responsibility is to minister to their current parishioners. It would be great if some of our members who live within easy distance could volunteer to handle requests at these city parishes one day a week -- but the parishes simply cannot afford to underwrite the expenses of our hobby. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michelle and Kevin Cassidy To: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:23 PM Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Mailing Requests I was wondering what is the turn around for written replies on the list? I have sent several requests out over the last year by postal mail. The letters that go to governmental agencies all arrive without problems and I receive a reply in a timely manner. Most parish requests also arrive without problem and are replied to in a timely manner as well. I have had a few letters that have not reached the parish or that have been misplaced. I always send SASE along with private requests like churches but do not usually do so with the government offices. Is there something about a thicker envelope being sent to NYC that raises suspicion or clogs a mailing belt in the post office? I have had to cancel three checks and was is it the parish office, the post office or something else? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
What would East 113th St. be considered back around 1850? Genie ----- Original Message ----- From: <irish-new-york-city-request@rootsweb.com> To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 3:18 AM Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 67 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Upper East Side, Manhattan? (Maureen) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 00:56:42 -0500 > From: "Maureen" <mcshelly2@msn.com> > Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Upper East Side, Manhattan? > To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BLU125-DAV51A02465588EC69EB90C0FEF80@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Poor Irish immigrants lived at all the fanciest addressed in my hometown > of Englewood, NJ, > in the mid-19th century. > > They were the cooks, housekeepers, stable boys, gardeners, laundresses, > upstairs maids, etc. > > I remember being so impressed reading the 100th anniversary book of the RC > parish when I > was home on spring break from college -- to see all the Irish named > Bridget and Nellie and Patrick > who had contributed to the building fund 100 years earlier and whose > addresses were those old > mansions on the streets we could not yet afford even in the fourth > generation -- then I realized > what it was they were all doing there! They were NOT the property owners > but the servants > of the owners! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: corbyoconnor@comcast.net > To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:42 AM > Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Upper East Side, Manhattan? > > > I grew up in NYC and that particular location is a wealthy > area...although not as expensive as others in Manhattan. You have the > right address. As you go further north...you get closer to the Harlem > border which is about 120th street. So the further north you go the less > desirable. At that time...early 1900's...the wealthy did not go that far > north. The "invisible line" for the very wealthy now is about 86th street. > Although most Irish settled on the west side of Manhattan around the 42nd > Street area and 8th Avenue (what is called Hell's Kitchen), there must > have been affordable places to live on the "upper east side" at that time. > > Hope this helps. > > -- > www.corbyoconnor.com > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Pauline Leonard" <treehouse3@gmail.com> > > > Hello, > > I have an address of 233 E 95 ST, NY. > > I checked a map and it seems to be in the "Upper East Side" of > Manhattan. I > > don't know anything about the neighbourhoods of NY so I checked it out > on > > Wikipedia. It seems to be a VERY rich area with a lot of very famous > and > > rich people there and some of the most expensive real estate in the > world. > > This doesn't seem like the place for a poor Irish immigrant to be > living in > > 1910. > > Do I have the wrong place? > > How can I place this address? Might it be in another Borough? > > Thanks for your help. > > > > Slan > > Pauline > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY list administrator, send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY mailing list, send an email > to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 67 > ************************************************** >
That area of 95th street was a working class neighborhood in 1910 - not wealthy. It is several blocks east of Fifth Avenue, and many of the buildings in this area of 95th street were more or less tenements - many of these buildings are still there today, and while the neighborhood today is very nice, many of these apartments are "walkup" apartments now. It was a heavily Irish and German neighborhood during the late 1800's/early 1900's. **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001)
Poor Irish immigrants lived at all the fanciest addressed in my hometown of Englewood, NJ, in the mid-19th century. They were the cooks, housekeepers, stable boys, gardeners, laundresses, upstairs maids, etc. I remember being so impressed reading the 100th anniversary book of the RC parish when I was home on spring break from college -- to see all the Irish named Bridget and Nellie and Patrick who had contributed to the building fund 100 years earlier and whose addresses were those old mansions on the streets we could not yet afford even in the fourth generation -- then I realized what it was they were all doing there! They were NOT the property owners but the servants of the owners! ----- Original Message ----- From: corbyoconnor@comcast.net To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Upper East Side, Manhattan? I grew up in NYC and that particular location is a wealthy area...although not as expensive as others in Manhattan. You have the right address. As you go further north...you get closer to the Harlem border which is about 120th street. So the further north you go the less desirable. At that time...early 1900's...the wealthy did not go that far north. The "invisible line" for the very wealthy now is about 86th street. Although most Irish settled on the west side of Manhattan around the 42nd Street area and 8th Avenue (what is called Hell's Kitchen), there must have been affordable places to live on the "upper east side" at that time. Hope this helps. -- www.corbyoconnor.com -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Pauline Leonard" <treehouse3@gmail.com> > Hello, > I have an address of 233 E 95 ST, NY. > I checked a map and it seems to be in the "Upper East Side" of Manhattan. I > don't know anything about the neighbourhoods of NY so I checked it out on > Wikipedia. It seems to be a VERY rich area with a lot of very famous and > rich people there and some of the most expensive real estate in the world. > This doesn't seem like the place for a poor Irish immigrant to be living in > 1910. > Do I have the wrong place? > How can I place this address? Might it be in another Borough? > Thanks for your help. > > Slan > Pauline > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
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Easter, 1916 I HAVE met them at close of day Coming with vivid faces >From counter or desk among grey Eighteenth-century houses. I have passed with a nod of the head Or polite meaningless words, Or have lingered awhile and said Polite meaningless words, And thought before I had done Of a mocking tale or a gibe To please a companion Around the fire at the club, Being certain that they and I But lived where motley is worn: All changed, changed utterly: A terrible beauty is born. That woman's days were spent In ignorant good-will, Her nights in argument Until her voice grew shrill. What voice more sweet than hers When, young and beautiful, She rode to harriers? This man had kept a school And rode our winged horse; This other his helper and friend Was coming into his force; He might have won fame in the end, So sensitive his nature seemed, So daring and sweet his thought. This other man I had dreamed A drunken, vainglorious lout. He had done most bitter wrong To some who are near my heart, Yet I number him in the song; He, too, has resigned his part In the casual comedy; He, too, has been changed in his turn, Transformed utterly: A terrible beauty is born. Hearts with one purpose alone Through summer and winter seem Enchanted to a stone To trouble the living stream. The horse that comes from the road. The rider, the birds that range >From cloud to tumbling cloud, Minute by minute they change; A shadow of cloud on the stream Changes minute by minute; A horse-hoof slides on the brim, And a horse plashes within it; The long-legged moor-hens dive, And hens to moor-cocks call; Minute by minute they live: The stone's in the midst of all. Too long a sacrifice Can make a stone of the heart. O when may it suffice? That is Heaven's part, our part To murmur name upon name, As a mother names her child When sleep at last has come On limbs that had run wild. What is it but nightfall? No, no, not night but death; Was it needless death after all? For England may keep faith For all that is done and said. We know their dream; enough To know they dreamed and are dead; And what if excess of love Bewildered them till they died? I write it out in a verse - MacDonagh and MacBride And Connolly and Pearse Now and in time to be, Wherever green is worn, Are changed, changed utterly: A terrible beauty is born. ************** It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)
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