Hello, Does anyone one know where 2 Adelpha St., NY is? I am going blind searching for it on the map and cannot find it. I thought maybe a list member might happen to know where it is. This is the address that my grandfathers brother said he was going to on his ship list in 1906. Thank you for any help. Pauline Canada

Hi, Thanks for the information on the records. My GF was born in 1877 so I guess the records aren't available for that year. Barbara **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

I'd assume that he was baptized elsewhere. Have you written to Holy Cross, send $10 or St. Michael's, send $30? If there is a birth certificate it should help determine which parish. If not either the city directory or the 1880 Census should help. On Apr 26, 2008, at 12:39 AM, DrBGC@aol.com wrote: > Hi, > Thanks for the information on the records. My GF was born in 1877 > so I > guess the records aren't available for that year. > Barbara > > > > **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. > used car > listings at AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW- > YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I need help trying to find my gr. gr. grandfather William O'Connell, borrn 1836 somewhere in Ireland and arriving in NY in 1850 at age 14. According to the 1900 Census he was naturalized. I know the naturalization process took about 5 years. However when he had been here 5 years he was only 19. Did he have to be 21 before he could be declared a citizen? How would I go about finding his papers? I have looked on-line under Petitions For Naturalization for him and came up with about 5 names but not much information other than witness names. Some of the information said "see other side" but there was no way to do this. Is there a way to find more info free??? I know nothing else about him until he had a son, Cornelius, born in 1857 in NYC. I cannot find a marriage for him ( Williamspouse Elizabeth Cronin) anywhere. Any help anyone would offer would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Fran

In a message dated 4/24/2008 10:12:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kmct@earthlink.net writes: go to the local family history center and borrow a film from the FHL for $5.50 and you can view the records and make copies. Where is St. Raphael? Jill ****** jillpierson@yahoo.com and Chesnutmor@yahoo.com "The truth is this, the march of Providence is so slow and our desires so impatient; the work of progress is so immense and our means of aiding it so feeble; the life of humanity is so long, that of the individual so brief, that we often see only the ebb of the advancing wave and are thus discouraged. It is history that teaches us to hope." Robert E. Lee **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

Greetings. My GF and M were both baptized at St Raphael's. How did you view the register? Thanks. Barbara **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

St. Raphael(1886), St. Clare(1903) and Sts. Cyril and Methodius(1913 I think) (one parish where previously they were three) were microfilmed and copies are available through the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. You go to the local family history center and borrow a film from the FHL for $5.50 and you can view the records and make copies. Kevin On Apr 24, 2008, at 8:59 PM, DrBGC@aol.com wrote: > Greetings. > > My GF and M were both baptized at St Raphael's. How did you view the > register? > Thanks. > Barbara > > > > **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. > used car > listings at AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW- > YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here is the film note info on all St. Raphael microfilmed records: Baptism records v.I-III(to p.147) 1886-1916 FHL US/CAN Film 1289414 Items 2-4 Baptism records v.III(p.147 to end)-VI 1916- 1975 FHL US/CAN Film 1289415 Items 1-4 Marriage records v.I(to p.31) 1886-1890 FHL US/CAN Film 1289415 Item 5 Marriage records v.I(p.30 to end)-III 1890- 1974 FHL US/CAN Film 1289416 Items 1-4 Confirmation register 1888-1955 FHL US/CAN Film 1289416 Item 5 First communion register 1943-1975 FHL US/CAN Film 1289416 Item 6 I viewed roll --415 earlier this year, and it was clearly written and easy to peruse. I knew some dates to zero in on, but I also skimmed through looking for other unknown family entries and did locate some. I even found a baptism entry for the child of the sponsors for one of the family baptism entries that I came across--like I said, easy to read. The marriage records contain margin comments noting marriages of individuals who were also baptized in the parish. Enjoy! Cathy Michelle and Kevin Cassidy <kmct@earthlink.net> wrote: St. Raphael(1886), St. Clare(1903) and Sts. Cyril and Methodius(1913 I think) (one parish where previously they were three) were microfilmed and copies are available through the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. You go to the local family history center and borrow a film from the FHL for $5.50 and you can view the records and make copies. Kevin On Apr 24, 2008, at 8:59 PM, DrBGC@aol.com wrote: > Greetings. > > My GF and M were both baptized at St Raphael's. How did you view the > register? > Thanks. > Barbara > > > > **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. > used car > listings at AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW- > YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message http://www.donorschoose.org/donors/proposal.html?id=179232 --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

For some time, your McGinns lived [according to Yahoo Maps] about 150 feet from my Gaughrans on W 40th St: you list Alice living at 539 W 40th in 1911. My great-grandparents and their children lived at 525 W 40 St in the 1910 census and when my great-grandmother died in 1914. Their youngest, Anna, was born in 1895--not a likely playmate for the McGinns :) Anna's baptism was at St. Raphael, and she was married there in 1914. Cathy Michelle and Kevin Cassidy <kmct@earthlink.net> wrote: I am trying to find where a girl was baptized in 1909. Alice McGinn was born 17 Nov 1909 to Owen McGinn and Mary Mahoney at 6608 West 47th Street which should have been between 11th and 12th Avenues. She was their 4 child and third to have a birth certificate. Her siblings were: Hannah McGinn born 9 Mar 1903 and baptized at St. Raphael on West 41st Street between 10th-11th Avenues on 22 Mar 1903 Catherine McGinn was born 25 Jan 1905 at 600 West 46th Street between 11th and 12th Avenues and baptized 29 Jan 1905 at Holy Cross at 329 West 42nd Street between 8-9th Avenues. (Enumerated Jun 1905 at 543 West 43rd and died 474 West 43rd Street 28 Nov 1905) Margaret McGinn was born 2 Jun 1907 at 503 West 37th Street between 10-11th Avenues and baptized at St. Raphael on West 41st Street between 10th-11th Avenues on 9 Jun 1907. Alice McGinn was born 17 Nov 1909 at 608 West 47th Street. She was enumerated at 604 West 45th Street in Apr 1910 and died 26 May 1911 with former residence before hospitalization being 539 West 40th Street. John McGinn was born 1 Feb 1912 and baptized at St. Raphael on West 41st Street between 10th-11th Avenues 18 Feb 1912. Mary McGinn was born 4 Sep 1914 and baptized at Holy Cross at 329 West 42nd Street between 8-9th Avenues, 13 Sep 1914. I have viewed the St. Raphael register twice and Alice is not there. I have had Holy Cross check their records three times and she is not there. They also have St. Clemens Mary which was on West 40th between 10th and 11th and she was not there. Assumption was between 9th and 10th at West 49th Street but she was not baptized there nor Sacred Heart on West 51st Street between 9-10th Aves. They also checked St. Benedict the Moor and S. Ambrose which were in the lower 50s but she did not show up. As you can see above these people were Catholics and baptized their children in a timely manner. I plan to contact St. Malachy on West 49th between 7th and 8th and also maybe St. Clare down on West 36th between 9th-10th Aves. I would love to get input from someone as to where this girl might have been baptized or might she have been baptized at home and pulled through but never was registered in the parish as baptized. Thanks. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message http://www.donorschoose.org/donors/proposal.html?id=179232 --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

I am trying to find where a girl was baptized in 1909. Alice McGinn was born 17 Nov 1909 to Owen McGinn and Mary Mahoney at 6608 West 47th Street which should have been between 11th and 12th Avenues. She was their 4 child and third to have a birth certificate. Her siblings were: Hannah McGinn born 9 Mar 1903 and baptized at St. Raphael on West 41st Street between 10th-11th Avenues on 22 Mar 1903 Catherine McGinn was born 25 Jan 1905 at 600 West 46th Street between 11th and 12th Avenues and baptized 29 Jan 1905 at Holy Cross at 329 West 42nd Street between 8-9th Avenues. (Enumerated Jun 1905 at 543 West 43rd and died 474 West 43rd Street 28 Nov 1905) Margaret McGinn was born 2 Jun 1907 at 503 West 37th Street between 10-11th Avenues and baptized at St. Raphael on West 41st Street between 10th-11th Avenues on 9 Jun 1907. Alice McGinn was born 17 Nov 1909 at 608 West 47th Street. She was enumerated at 604 West 45th Street in Apr 1910 and died 26 May 1911 with former residence before hospitalization being 539 West 40th Street. John McGinn was born 1 Feb 1912 and baptized at St. Raphael on West 41st Street between 10th-11th Avenues 18 Feb 1912. Mary McGinn was born 4 Sep 1914 and baptized at Holy Cross at 329 West 42nd Street between 8-9th Avenues, 13 Sep 1914. I have viewed the St. Raphael register twice and Alice is not there. I have had Holy Cross check their records three times and she is not there. They also have St. Clemens Mary which was on West 40th between 10th and 11th and she was not there. Assumption was between 9th and 10th at West 49th Street but she was not baptized there nor Sacred Heart on West 51st Street between 9-10th Aves. They also checked St. Benedict the Moor and S. Ambrose which were in the lower 50s but she did not show up. As you can see above these people were Catholics and baptized their children in a timely manner. I plan to contact St. Malachy on West 49th between 7th and 8th and also maybe St. Clare down on West 36th between 9th-10th Aves. I would love to get input from someone as to where this girl might have been baptized or might she have been baptized at home and pulled through but never was registered in the parish as baptized. Thanks.

I am interested in when, after 1880, Albert Strubin ( born Basel, Switzerland) came to New York City and voted. Can anyone help me with that? Thanks, Genie ----- Original Message ----- From: <irish-new-york-city-request@rootsweb.com> To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 3:18 AM Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 73 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: NYC voter registration records (Michelle and Kevin Cassidy) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:58:27 -0500 > From: Michelle and Kevin Cassidy <kmct@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] NYC voter registration records > To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <92BCA519-E501-4725-9A65-6E057A08079E@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > At the Family History center their computer has a free subscription > to WorldRecords.com (I think) and they have the 1880 Voters List for > NYC. What was fascinating was that my great-grandfather naturalized > in mid-October 1880 and was on the list at the same address as the > 1880 Census. This proved to be a great cross reference to his > neighbors since both the voter's list and the census are listed by > address. The names lined up extremely well between the June 1880 > census list and the Nov 1880 voter list. > > > > On Apr 10, 2008, at 7:52 PM, Melanie Egan wrote: > >> My understanding is that an Election District is different from the >> Enumeration District used by the federal census. The 1890 Police >> Census is >> organized by Election District, the same as the Voter records, so >> if you >> find the right Police Census, you'll know the Election District . It >> appears that the NYS Census of 1905/1915/1925 is also organized by >> Election >> District, and for those years www.stevemorse.org has a one step >> method for >> going from the address to the Election District. >> >> I have the Finding Aid for the 1890 Police Census so if anyone >> wants to know >> the AD/ED for an address, they can e-mail me offlist. >> >> Melanie Egan >> megan@cfl.rr.com >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Maureen Shelly" <mcshelly2@msn.com> >> To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:12 AM >> Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] NYC voter registration records >> >> >>> >>> The Enumeration District and the New York City Assembly District >>> are right >>> at the top on the Census page, above all the rest of the >>> information. The >>> E.D. is all the way over on the right side. The A.D. is where it >>> says >>> "Borough of Manhattan" or whatever Borough your person resided in, >>> followed by the Ward and the Assembly District. >>> >>> Anyone who has a Census subscription like Ancestry.com can very >>> easily >>> look it up. If your public library has Ancestry.com or any one of >>> the >>> other companies like Heritage Quest that carries the Census (and most >>> libraries do) you can easily look it up. >>> >>> You can subscribe to Ancestry for one month and get all your >>> people. At >>> worst, if you have only one or two people, ask someone on this >>> list who >>> has a Census subscription at Ancestry to look it up for you! >>> Researching: >>> Costello (Galway and Mayo), Cotter, Durcan/Durkin, Higgins, Lynch, >>> Raftree/Raftery (Galway), Shannon, Sullivan, Amacher, Baur, Bove, >>> Cremer, >>> Ehlen, Fischer, Gansberg, Giefer, Hamacher, Hense/Henseler, >>> Hofmann/Hoeffeler, Jackler/Jackelen, Jaegers, Koch, Kratz, Krebs, >>> Marlo/Marlot/Morlo, Mueller/Meller, Mertes, Pick, Reetz, >>> Rheinges,Reichardt/Reichert, Rick, Schmieden, Seitz/Zeidt, >>> vonAlleman/Vollerman, vonMeer, Weiskopf, Zens, Albright, Compton, >>> Corselius, Clemens/Clements, Daly (Galway), Early, Fallon >>> (Galway), Greene >>> (Waterford), Callaghan, Fitzgerald, McGrath (Waterford), Moss, >>> Mullenix/Mullinax, Prichard, Reilly/O'Riley/Reiley, Shelly, Shook, >>> Tye.> >>> From: jmnorthern@comcast.net> To: irish-new-york- >>> city@rootsweb.com> Date: >>> Thu, 10 Apr 2008 07:04:27 -0700> Subj! >>> ect: Re: [IRISH-NYC] voter registration records> > Are the Voter >>> Registration Cards a onetime registration for the applicant?.> In >>> other >>> words, when ordering the card(s), do you provide E.D.'s for all >>> of> the >>> years and the Archives searches all years for any existing >>> Registration?> >>> It sounds like you provided an E.D. for 1890 and they searched and >>> found >>> a> registration for 1890.> > Joseph Martin> Vacaville, Ca> > ----- >>> Original >>> Message-----> From: irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com> >>> [mailto:irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary >>> Colbert> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 6:39 AM> To: >>> irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Subject: [IRISH-NYC] voter >>> registration >>> records> > > Yes, I had success with voter registration records - >>> I got >>> the 1890 records> for my great grandfather. It included >>> information on his >>> naturalization and> this allowed me to confirm that a naturalization >>> record I already had was> his. You have to order the records in >>> advance - >>> Leonora Gi! >>> dlund"> <lgidlund@records.nyc.gov>. I was told to state the name, >>> year >>> , and AD and> ED. Keep the email that confirms they records are in. I >>> ordered several but> some are missing. When I went to the archives >>> I was >>> told at first that all> the records I had requested were missing. >>> I showed >>> my email and the man> went in the other room and talked to someone >>> and she >>> found the 3 records> that were available. As far as the AD and ED >>> that I >>> found more difficult.> The archives do not have this information. >>> I was >>> told to go to the public> library but they didn't have the maps >>> available >>> the day I went. I believe> they do change but I don't know how >>> frequently. >>> Mary> From:> irish-new-york-city-request@rootswe!> b.com> Subject: >>> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 70> To:> >>> irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:18:33 >>> -0600> > >>>>>> Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: NY TB sanitarium early 1900's >>> (Wandle2@aol.com)>> 2. Voter Registration Records (Melanie Egan)> > >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> ---> >>>>>>> ! >>> -type=original> > Has anyone used older (1870's - 1920) voter >>> registration> records for NYC > with success? I understand that the >>> Municipal Archives has> these records > and that a year (preferably >>> presidential election year) and> an Assembly > District/Election >>> District >>> must be provided. I have the AD/ED> for several > of my ancestors >>> from my >>> research for the 1890 police census.> Does anyone > know if these are >>> likely to have changed much if I researched> 1888 or 1892? > Any >>> advice >>> about this area of research would be> appreciated.> > Melanie Egan> >>> Orlando FL > > > > >> ------------------------------> > To contact >>> the >>> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY lis!> t administrator, send an email to> >>> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-admin@rootsweb.> com.> > To post a message to the >>> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY mailing list, send an> email to >>> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com.> >> >>> __________________________________________________________> To >>> unsubscribe> from the list, please send an email to> >>> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-requ! >>> est@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe"> without the quotes >>> in t >>> he subject and the body of the> email with no> additional text.> > >>> > End >>> of IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 70>> >>> **************************************************> >>> _________________________________________________________________> >>> Use >>> video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger.> >>> http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html? >>> ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL> >>> _Refresh_messenger_video_042008> > ------------------------------- >>> > To >>> unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> >>> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > >>>> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, >>>> please >>> send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the >>> word >>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>> message >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW- >> YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY list administrator, send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY mailing list, send an email > to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 73 > ************************************************** >

At the Family History center their computer has a free subscription to WorldRecords.com (I think) and they have the 1880 Voters List for NYC. What was fascinating was that my great-grandfather naturalized in mid-October 1880 and was on the list at the same address as the 1880 Census. This proved to be a great cross reference to his neighbors since both the voter's list and the census are listed by address. The names lined up extremely well between the June 1880 census list and the Nov 1880 voter list. On Apr 10, 2008, at 7:52 PM, Melanie Egan wrote: > My understanding is that an Election District is different from the > Enumeration District used by the federal census. The 1890 Police > Census is > organized by Election District, the same as the Voter records, so > if you > find the right Police Census, you'll know the Election District . It > appears that the NYS Census of 1905/1915/1925 is also organized by > Election > District, and for those years www.stevemorse.org has a one step > method for > going from the address to the Election District. > > I have the Finding Aid for the 1890 Police Census so if anyone > wants to know > the AD/ED for an address, they can e-mail me offlist. > > Melanie Egan > megan@cfl.rr.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Maureen Shelly" <mcshelly2@msn.com> > To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:12 AM > Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] NYC voter registration records > > >> >> The Enumeration District and the New York City Assembly District >> are right >> at the top on the Census page, above all the rest of the >> information. The >> E.D. is all the way over on the right side. The A.D. is where it >> says >> "Borough of Manhattan" or whatever Borough your person resided in, >> followed by the Ward and the Assembly District. >> >> Anyone who has a Census subscription like Ancestry.com can very >> easily >> look it up. If your public library has Ancestry.com or any one of >> the >> other companies like Heritage Quest that carries the Census (and most >> libraries do) you can easily look it up. >> >> You can subscribe to Ancestry for one month and get all your >> people. At >> worst, if you have only one or two people, ask someone on this >> list who >> has a Census subscription at Ancestry to look it up for you! >> Researching: >> Costello (Galway and Mayo), Cotter, Durcan/Durkin, Higgins, Lynch, >> Raftree/Raftery (Galway), Shannon, Sullivan, Amacher, Baur, Bove, >> Cremer, >> Ehlen, Fischer, Gansberg, Giefer, Hamacher, Hense/Henseler, >> Hofmann/Hoeffeler, Jackler/Jackelen, Jaegers, Koch, Kratz, Krebs, >> Marlo/Marlot/Morlo, Mueller/Meller, Mertes, Pick, Reetz, >> Rheinges,Reichardt/Reichert, Rick, Schmieden, Seitz/Zeidt, >> vonAlleman/Vollerman, vonMeer, Weiskopf, Zens, Albright, Compton, >> Corselius, Clemens/Clements, Daly (Galway), Early, Fallon >> (Galway), Greene >> (Waterford), Callaghan, Fitzgerald, McGrath (Waterford), Moss, >> Mullenix/Mullinax, Prichard, Reilly/O'Riley/Reiley, Shelly, Shook, >> Tye.> >> From: jmnorthern@comcast.net> To: irish-new-york- >> city@rootsweb.com> Date: >> Thu, 10 Apr 2008 07:04:27 -0700> Subj! >> ect: Re: [IRISH-NYC] voter registration records> > Are the Voter >> Registration Cards a onetime registration for the applicant?.> In >> other >> words, when ordering the card(s), do you provide E.D.'s for all >> of> the >> years and the Archives searches all years for any existing >> Registration?> >> It sounds like you provided an E.D. for 1890 and they searched and >> found >> a> registration for 1890.> > Joseph Martin> Vacaville, Ca> > ----- >> Original >> Message-----> From: irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com> >> [mailto:irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary >> Colbert> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 6:39 AM> To: >> irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Subject: [IRISH-NYC] voter >> registration >> records> > > Yes, I had success with voter registration records - >> I got >> the 1890 records> for my great grandfather. It included >> information on his >> naturalization and> this allowed me to confirm that a naturalization >> record I already had was> his. You have to order the records in >> advance - >> Leonora Gi! >> dlund"> <lgidlund@records.nyc.gov>. I was told to state the name, >> year >> , and AD and> ED. Keep the email that confirms they records are in. I >> ordered several but> some are missing. When I went to the archives >> I was >> told at first that all> the records I had requested were missing. >> I showed >> my email and the man> went in the other room and talked to someone >> and she >> found the 3 records> that were available. As far as the AD and ED >> that I >> found more difficult.> The archives do not have this information. >> I was >> told to go to the public> library but they didn't have the maps >> available >> the day I went. I believe> they do change but I don't know how >> frequently. >> Mary> From:> irish-new-york-city-request@rootswe!> b.com> Subject: >> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 70> To:> >> irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:18:33 >> -0600> > >>>>> Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: NY TB sanitarium early 1900's >> (Wandle2@aol.com)>> 2. Voter Registration Records (Melanie Egan)> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ---> >>>>>> ! >> -type=original> > Has anyone used older (1870's - 1920) voter >> registration> records for NYC > with success? I understand that the >> Municipal Archives has> these records > and that a year (preferably >> presidential election year) and> an Assembly > District/Election >> District >> must be provided. I have the AD/ED> for several > of my ancestors >> from my >> research for the 1890 police census.> Does anyone > know if these are >> likely to have changed much if I researched> 1888 or 1892? > Any >> advice >> about this area of research would be> appreciated.> > Melanie Egan> >> Orlando FL > > > > >> ------------------------------> > To contact >> the >> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY lis!> t administrator, send an email to> >> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-admin@rootsweb.> com.> > To post a message to the >> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY mailing list, send an> email to >> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com.> >> >> __________________________________________________________> To >> unsubscribe> from the list, please send an email to> >> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-requ! >> est@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe"> without the quotes >> in t >> he subject and the body of the> email with no> additional text.> > >> > End >> of IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 70>> >> **************************************************> >> _________________________________________________________________> >> Use >> video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger.> >> http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html? >> ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL> >> _Refresh_messenger_video_042008> > ------------------------------- >> > To >> unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> >> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > >>> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, >>> please >> send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the >> word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW- > YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My understanding is that an Election District is different from the Enumeration District used by the federal census. The 1890 Police Census is organized by Election District, the same as the Voter records, so if you find the right Police Census, you'll know the Election District . It appears that the NYS Census of 1905/1915/1925 is also organized by Election District, and for those years www.stevemorse.org has a one step method for going from the address to the Election District. I have the Finding Aid for the 1890 Police Census so if anyone wants to know the AD/ED for an address, they can e-mail me offlist. Melanie Egan megan@cfl.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Shelly" <mcshelly2@msn.com> To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] NYC voter registration records > > The Enumeration District and the New York City Assembly District are right > at the top on the Census page, above all the rest of the information. The > E.D. is all the way over on the right side. The A.D. is where it says > "Borough of Manhattan" or whatever Borough your person resided in, > followed by the Ward and the Assembly District. > > Anyone who has a Census subscription like Ancestry.com can very easily > look it up. If your public library has Ancestry.com or any one of the > other companies like Heritage Quest that carries the Census (and most > libraries do) you can easily look it up. > > You can subscribe to Ancestry for one month and get all your people. At > worst, if you have only one or two people, ask someone on this list who > has a Census subscription at Ancestry to look it up for you!Researching: > Costello (Galway and Mayo), Cotter, Durcan/Durkin, Higgins, Lynch, > Raftree/Raftery (Galway), Shannon, Sullivan, Amacher, Baur, Bove, Cremer, > Ehlen, Fischer, Gansberg, Giefer, Hamacher, Hense/Henseler, > Hofmann/Hoeffeler, Jackler/Jackelen, Jaegers, Koch, Kratz, Krebs, > Marlo/Marlot/Morlo, Mueller/Meller, Mertes, Pick, Reetz, > Rheinges,Reichardt/Reichert, Rick, Schmieden, Seitz/Zeidt, > vonAlleman/Vollerman, vonMeer, Weiskopf, Zens, Albright, Compton, > Corselius, Clemens/Clements, Daly (Galway), Early, Fallon (Galway), Greene > (Waterford), Callaghan, Fitzgerald, McGrath (Waterford), Moss, > Mullenix/Mullinax, Prichard, Reilly/O'Riley/Reiley, Shelly, Shook, Tye.> > From: jmnorthern@comcast.net> To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Date: > Thu, 10 Apr 2008 07:04:27 -0700> Subj! > ect: Re: [IRISH-NYC] voter registration records> > Are the Voter > Registration Cards a onetime registration for the applicant?.> In other > words, when ordering the card(s), do you provide E.D.'s for all of> the > years and the Archives searches all years for any existing Registration?> > It sounds like you provided an E.D. for 1890 and they searched and found > a> registration for 1890.> > Joseph Martin> Vacaville, Ca> > -----Original > Message-----> From: irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com> > [mailto:irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary > Colbert> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 6:39 AM> To: > irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Subject: [IRISH-NYC] voter registration > records> > > Yes, I had success with voter registration records - I got > the 1890 records> for my great grandfather. It included information on his > naturalization and> this allowed me to confirm that a naturalization > record I already had was> his. You have to order the records in advance - > Leonora Gi! > dlund"> <lgidlund@records.nyc.gov>. I was told to state the name, year > , and AD and> ED. Keep the email that confirms they records are in. I > ordered several but> some are missing. When I went to the archives I was > told at first that all> the records I had requested were missing. I showed > my email and the man> went in the other room and talked to someone and she > found the 3 records> that were available. As far as the AD and ED that I > found more difficult.> The archives do not have this information. I was > told to go to the public> library but they didn't have the maps available > the day I went. I believe> they do change but I don't know how frequently. > Mary> From:> irish-new-york-city-request@rootswe!> b.com> Subject: > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 70> To:> > irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:18:33 -0600> > > >> > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: NY TB sanitarium early 1900's > (Wandle2@aol.com)>> 2. Voter Registration Records (Melanie Egan)> > > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > > >> >! > -type=original> > Has anyone used older (1870's - 1920) voter > registration> records for NYC > with success? I understand that the > Municipal Archives has> these records > and that a year (preferably > presidential election year) and> an Assembly > District/Election District > must be provided. I have the AD/ED> for several > of my ancestors from my > research for the 1890 police census.> Does anyone > know if these are > likely to have changed much if I researched> 1888 or 1892? > Any advice > about this area of research would be> appreciated.> > Melanie Egan> > Orlando FL > > > > >> ------------------------------> > To contact the > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY lis!> t administrator, send an email to> > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-admin@rootsweb.> com.> > To post a message to the > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY mailing list, send an> email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com.> >> > __________________________________________________________> To > unsubscribe> from the list, please send an email to> > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-requ! > est@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe"> without the quotes in t > he subject and the body of the> email with no> additional text.> > > End > of IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 70>> > **************************************************> > _________________________________________________________________> Use > video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger.> > http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL> > _Refresh_messenger_video_042008> > -------------------------------> To > unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please > send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

According to www.jewishgen.org, NYC required annual registration until 1957. But like today, someone would be more likely to register during a presidential election year. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Martin" <jmnorthern@comcast.net> To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] voter registration records > Are the Voter Registration Cards a onetime registration for the > applicant?. > In other words, when ordering the card(s), do you provide E.D.'s for all > of > the years and the Archives searches all years for any existing > Registration? > It sounds like you provided an E.D. for 1890 and they searched and found a > registration for 1890. > > Joseph Martin > Vacaville, Ca > > -----Original Message----- > From: irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary > Colbert > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 6:39 AM > To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRISH-NYC] voter registration records > > > Yes, I had success with voter registration records - I got the 1890 > records > for my great grandfather. It included information on his naturalization > and > this allowed me to confirm that a naturalization record I already had was > his. You have to order the records in advance - Leonora Gidlund" > <lgidlund@records.nyc.gov>. I was told to state the name, year, and AD > and > ED. Keep the email that confirms they records are in. I ordered several > but > some are missing. When I went to the archives I was told at first that > all > the records I had requested were missing. I showed my email and the man > went in the other room and talked to someone and she found the 3 records > that were available. As far as the AD and ED that I found more difficult. > The archives do not have this information. I was told to go to the public > library but they didn't have the maps available the day I went. I believe > they do change but I don't know how frequently. Mary> From: > irish-new-york-city-request@rootswe! > b.com> Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 70> To: > irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:18:33 -0600> > > > >> Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: NY TB sanitarium early 1900's >> (Wandle2@aol.com)> > 2. Voter Registration Records (Melanie Egan)> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > >>-type=original> > Has anyone used older (1870's - 1920) voter registration > records for NYC > with success? I understand that the Municipal Archives > has > these records > and that a year (preferably presidential election year) > and > an Assembly > District/Election District must be provided. I have the > AD/ED > for several > of my ancestors from my research for the 1890 police census. > Does anyone > know if these are likely to have changed much if I > researched > 1888 or 1892? > Any advice about this area of research would be > appreciated.> > Melanie Egan> Orlando FL > > > > > > ------------------------------> > To contact the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY lis! > t administrator, send an email to> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-admin@rootsweb. > com.> > To post a message to the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY mailing list, send an > email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com.> > > __________________________________________________________> To unsubscribe > from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe" > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the> email with no > additional text.> > > End of IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 70> > ************************************************** > _________________________________________________________________ > Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. > http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL > _Refresh_messenger_video_042008 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I searched on the LDS site but there were very limited voter registration records for NYC. As far as I know, the Municipal Archives has the records from 1872-1922, and the Board of Elections has from 1923 on. These must be actual records and not microfilm, since the records are stored offsite and must be ordered in advance. Not all years are available. I did see something at www.jewishgen.org about a search service by the Municipal Archives but that might be outdated. I have e-mailed the Municipal Archives about this but haven't heard back yet. I'll post if I do find out more. ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. Curtis" <genie4me@gmail.com> To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Voter Registration Records > Hi Melanie, > > Where are you finding the records? Only at the Archives? Does anyone > know > if they are on-line or searchable through LDS? > > Thanks. > > Barbara > Edmonds, WA > > On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Melanie Egan <megan@cfl.rr.com> wrote: > >> Has anyone used older (1870's - 1920) voter registration records for NYC >> with success? I understand that the Municipal Archives has these records >> and that a year (preferably presidential election year) and an Assembly >> District/Election District must be provided. I have the AD/ED for >> several >> of my ancestors from my research for the 1890 police census. Does anyone >> know if these are likely to have changed much if I researched 1888 or >> 1892? >> Any advice about this area of research would be appreciated. >> >> Melanie Egan >> Orlando FL >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Wikipedia states that the term first appeared in the Annexed District of the Bronx created in 1874. The article further mentions that it is attributed to the style of referring to rivers in general.. ( Like 'the Hudson' 'the Mississippi' and 'the Missouri and of course 'the Bronx'.) The Bronx River flows thru the Northern part of the Bronx and empties into the East River. Check it out on Wikipedia. And all these years I've wondered 'Why'. Now I finally feel contentent. Jim McCarthy </HTML>

Don, As a born and raised Bronxite, I was told The Bronx was named after the Bronx River which flows through it. The Bronx River was named after Jonas Bronck a major landholder. The Bronx is the legal title. See the following _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bronx_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bronx) Nora Hopkins Formerly of Pelham Bay The Bronx. In a message dated 4/10/2008 11:36:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _pdhaney@comcast.net_ (mailto:pdhaney@comcast.net) writes: All of my Irish friends and relatives always refer to "The Bronx" but never to "The Brooklyn" or "The Queens". Why? Don **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

Hi Melanie, Where are you finding the records? Only at the Archives? Does anyone know if they are on-line or searchable through LDS? Thanks. Barbara Edmonds, WA On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Melanie Egan <megan@cfl.rr.com> wrote: > Has anyone used older (1870's - 1920) voter registration records for NYC > with success? I understand that the Municipal Archives has these records > and that a year (preferably presidential election year) and an Assembly > District/Election District must be provided. I have the AD/ED for several > of my ancestors from my research for the 1890 police census. Does anyone > know if these are likely to have changed much if I researched 1888 or > 1892? > Any advice about this area of research would be appreciated. > > Melanie Egan > Orlando FL > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Well, to me, this 'answer' still doesn't answer the question, but this is what I found when I googled. Kathleen Tracy~CT. Researching: Carrick, Halpin, McKenna & Wolf - Arthurstown, Co. Louth Delahunty/Delahanty, Treacy/Tracy - Mountheaton, Roscrea, Co. Offaly Hickey & Power - Torbay, Newfoundland Lynch, Murphy, & Shea - Cappyaughna, Co. Cork FROM: _http://wiki.answers.com_ (http://wiki.answers.com) Why is the Bronx called 'The Bronx'? The Bronx was named after Jonas Bronck, who was the first European settler. Jonas Jonson Bronck (1600?-1643), also known as Jonas Jonasson Bronk or Jonas Joanssen Bronck, was a Swedish immigrant to North America after whom the New York City borough of the Bronx was named. Bronck was born in the small village of Komstad, Norra Ljunga socken, outside Savsjo in the Swedish province of Smaland, some time around the year 1600. Rather than take over his family's farm, he became a sailor, and it is known that he traveled to Japan and India. He married his wife, Teuntje Joriaens, on July 6,1638, in the Nieuwe Kerk ('New Church'), Amsterdam. He and his wife subsequently decided to emigrate to North America. In 1639 he acquired a piece of land located across the Harlem River from the island of Manhattan. The farm came to be known as "Bronck's land" or simply "Bronck's," from which eventually evolved the modern name of "the Bronx." More about The Bronx's history can be found here: _www.bronxhistoricalsociety.org_ (http://www.bronxhistoricalsociety.org) original posting: Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:26:16 -0400 From: "Don Haney" _pdhaney@comcast.net_ (mailto:pdhaney@comcast.net) All of my Irish friends and relatives always refer to "The Bronx" but never to "The Brooklyn" or "The Queens". Why? Don **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)