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    1. [IRISH-NYC] Re: [Bklyn] St. Leonard's marriage & baptism/searchable
    2. In a message dated 3/13/02 7:10:07 AM, judib@intercom.net writes: http://www.GermanGenealogyGroup.com/St_Leonards/search.html

    03/17/2002 04:40:21
    1. Re: [IRISH-NYC] Kerry Gold
    2. Elizabeth V. Cardinal
    3. <<Well, Florida isn't that wide is it? LOL>> Let us say I love Kerry Gold Butter but not enough to make an hour and a half trip to 2 hour trip for the good stuff....LOL Besides, it may attract those pesky things on Alligator Alley....<grin> Elizabeth V. Cardinal EVC1369@comcast.net evcardinal@yahoo.com www.geocities.com/evcardinal/

    03/17/2002 04:28:35
    1. RE: [IRISH-NYC] Kerry Gold
    2. Joy Foertsch
    3. Well, Florida isn't that wide is it? LOL Joy -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth V. Cardinal [mailto:EVC1369@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 1:02 AM To: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Kerry Gold Joy Thank you for the information. I checked the website with great hope.....they have stores on the East Coast of Florida and I live on the West Coast. Drats.... Elizabeth V. Cardinal EVC1369@comcast.net evcardinal@yahoo.com www.geocities.com/evcardinal/ ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send an email with "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) to either: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L-request@rootsweb.com (List Version) IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-D-request@rootsweb.com (Digest Version) You can also unsubscribe from the website: http://www.irishinnyc.freeservers.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.323 / Virus Database: 180 - Release Date: 2/8/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.323 / Virus Database: 180 - Release Date: 2/8/2002

    03/17/2002 12:21:59
    1. Re: [IRISH-NYC] IA Marriages May 30, 1857
    2. Elizabeth V. Cardinal
    3. Traci The Ennis marriage in St. Andrews may be related to my family. Thanks Elizabeth V. Cardinal EVC1369@comcast.net evcardinal@yahoo.com www.geocities.com/evcardinal/

    03/16/2002 06:24:52
    1. [IRISH-NYC] Quiz
    2. Just a wee quiz to celebrate the day........... 1. What is the national symbol of Ireland? a. the shamrock b. the harp c. the shillelagh 2. 'Erin Go Bragh' means... a. Ireland Forever b. Ourselves Alone c. Long Live Ireland 3. What are the 4 provinces of Ireland? 4. Who is the president of the Republic of Ireland? a. Mary McAleese b. Bertie Ahearn c. Tony Blair 5. Who is the prime minister of Ireland? a. Mary McAleese b. Bertie Ahearn c. Tony Blair 6. What is the national anthem of the Republic of Ireland? 7. What does it mean if you hear the wail of the banshee? a. Good luck will be yours b. Riches will be yours c. You will die 8. True or false - the banshee is male. 9. What do leprechauns make? a. Shoes b. Hats c. Whiskey 10. True of false - if you capture a leprechaun, he may reveal the location of his pot of gold in order to escape. 11. What happens if you take your eyes off the leprechaun for even one second? a. He'll kick you b. He'll pull your hair c. He'll vanish 12. Who are the 'wee folk'? a. Fairies b. Banshees c. Very short Irish people 13. The lyrics for "Danny Boy" were set to what piece of music? 14. Who are the customary escorts of the St. Patrick's Day parade in New York City? a. the Secret Service b. the NYPD c. the Fighting 69th 15. What street does the parade march up? a. Fifth Avenue b. Sixth Avenue c. Seventh Avenue 16. New York City's St. Patrick's Day parade holds which honor: a. Largest in the world b. Oldest in the world c. Rowdiest in the world 17. Who was the Grand Marshal of this year's parade? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Answers: 1. b - the harp 2. a - Ireland Forever 3. Munster, Leinster, Ulster, Connacht 4. a - Mary McAleese 5. b - Bertie Ahearn 6. Amhran Na bhFiann "The Soldier's Song" 7. c - You will die 8. False - The banshee is female. 9. a - Shoes 10. True 11. c - He'll vanish. But he may also hit you. Leprechauns can be difficult! 12. a - Fairies 13. Londonderry Air 14. c - The Fighting 69th, now called the 165th Infantry 15. a - Fifth Avenue 16. a - The largest in the world. But it's probably also the rowdiest. 17. Cardinal Edward Egan was this year's Grand Marshal.

    03/16/2002 06:17:53
    1. [IRISH-NYC] St. Patrick
    2. Saint Patrick "The Apostle of Ireland" Patrick was born in the year 387 AD. His father was Calpornius, a deacon, son of Potitus, a village priest in the town of Bannavem Taburniae. His mother was Conchessa. At age 16, he was captured by Irish marauders and sold into slavery to a chieftan named Milchu in Dalriada, in present day Antrim. For six years, he tended sheep in the valley of Braid and on the slopes of Slemish - near the town of Ballymena. While in captivity, Patrick turned to God for deliverance. One night he fled, and by his own account, travelled 200 miles westward to Britain. Deeply affected by his relationship to God, Patrick went to St Martin's monastery at Tours. He studied under St. Germain and became a priest. When Germain travelled back to Britain as a missionary, he brought Patrick with him as an assistant. While in Britain, he had a dream: "And there I saw in the night the vision of a man, whose name was Victoricus, coming as it were from Ireland, with countless letters. And he gave me one of them, and I read the opening words of the letter, which were, 'The voice of the Irish'; and as I read the beginning of the letter I thought that at the same moment I heard their voice - they were those beside the Wood of Voclut, which is near the Western Sea - and thus did they cry out as with one mouth: 'We ask thee, boy, come and walk among us once more.' " * Patrick was sent to Ireland by Pope St. Celestine I to convert the Celts to Christianity. The previous missionary, Palladius, had failed miserably. In 433 AD, Patrick landed near Wicklow, at the entrance of Skerries Harbor. Off the main shore, there is a rock that is said to bear his footprint - where St. Patrick first set foot on Irish soil. Patrick headed towards Dalriada, to meet his old master, pay his ransom and convert him. Along the journey, he met a chieftain named Dichu, who drew his sword against him. However, his arm became rigid as a statue and he was not able to move until he pledged allegiance to Patrick. Patrick's missionary work in Ireland was difficult and fraught with danger. He was taken captive twelve times by his own account, and came close to death several times. Yet he persisted. In 444, Daire, the chieftan of the district of Armagh, granted land to Patrick where he could erect a church. This is now the site of the great cathedral of Armagh. When not engaged in his missionary work, Patrick spent his free time in prayer. He spent 40 days fasting and praying at the top of Eagle Mountain, in a mountain range in Connaught. The mountain, some 4,000 feet in height, would become known as Croagh Patrick - St. Patrick's Mountain. Patrick would consecrate 350 bishops in his lifetime. His work converting the Celts to Christianity had been successful. As his life drew to a close, he had a dream where he was told he would judge the whole Irish race on the last day. St. Patrick died on the 17th of March, 493 AD at Saul (Sabhill) in county Down. He is believed to be interred where the Cathedral of Down presently stands. *From "The Confession" by St. Patrick. Translated from the original latin by Ludwig Bieler. You can read "The Confession" at: http://www.ccel.org/p/patrick/confession/confession.html

    03/16/2002 06:17:11
    1. [IRISH-NYC] St. Patrick's Day Blessing
    2. We'd like to send a St. Patrick's Day blessing to everyone on the list - May the Irish hills caress you. May her lakes and rivers bless you. May the luck of the Irish enfold you. May the blessings of St. Patrick behold you. Have a wonderful, joyous, dance & music filled St. Patrick's Day! All our best, Jim & Tracy

    03/16/2002 06:16:46
    1. [IRISH-NYC] IA Deaths May 30, 1857
    2. Irish-American May 30, 1857 Deaths in Ireland May 3 at 47 Mountjoy Street, Dublin, aged three years, Catherine Mary, the beloved child of John Edmond BARRY. May 4 at her late residence, No. 7 George's Quay, Dublin, Jane, relict of Isaac DICKINSON, Esq., aged 56. May 2 at 125 Baggot Street, Dublin, John B. BARTOU, Esq., in his 89th year. May 4, Robert McENTIRE, 5 Kildare Street, Dublin, late of Sandymount. April 21, Esther, the wife of William BROWNE, coach maker, and daughter of the late Robert BROWNE, Esq., of Bray. April 29 in Limerick, aged 87, Miss Martha CAREY. April 26 at Croom House, county Limerick, after a few days' illness, Frances Hortense, daughter of the late James D. LYONS, Esq., D.L. April 26 at his residence, 3 Northumberland Road, Dublin, John GIBSON, Esq. April 28, aged 69 years, after a long and painful illness, John FITZPATRICK, Esq., of Usher Street, Dublin. At Four (illegible) Water, county Waterford, aged 88 years, Redmond POWER, Esq. May 3, suddenly at his residence, Upper Rathmines, Mr. Charles DALY, of Usher's Quay, Dublin. May 2 at 54 Henry Street, Dublin, Sarah Helen, youngest daughter of Mr. Michael BURKE. At his residence, 68 Eccles Street, Dublin, William R. WARD, Esq., in his 80th year. April 30 at Charlemount Street, Dublin, Elizabeth, wife of Mr. Benjamin SCOTT. May 1 in Clonmel, Town Councillor Francis GRUBB, an old and respected member of the Society of Friends. In Cashel, Francis RYAN, Esq., eldest son of Andrew O'RYAN, Esq., of Bansua Castle. In Clonmel, Mr. John CUMMINS. Near Tralee, Mrs. F.B. BOWLES, widow of Captain Henry BOWLES, of Sackville. April 29 in Kilkenny, of disease of the heart, Miss O'HANLON, sister of the Very Rev. Dr. O'HANLON, Professor, Maynooth College. At Lindville, Carrick-on-Suir, Patrick HAYDEN, Esq., brother of the Rev. William HAYDEN, P.P., Windgap, county Kilkenny. May 5 at Parkgate Street, Dublin, of paralysis, Lieut.-Colonel James BOWES, late of the 87th Regiment, aged 66. May 4 at the Royal School, Enniskillen, Meade Denis, Esq., youngest son of Loftus A. BRYAN, Esq., of Pembroke Road, Dublin. May 3 in the 71st year of his age, after a short illness, John ANDERSON, Esq. May 2 in London, the Hon. Eleanor M. DALY, eldest daughter of the late Lord DUNSANDIE. May 2 at Landesboro, John COSTELLO, Esq., agent to Colonel WHITE, M.P., and to the Inland Shannon Navigation Company. May 1, Margaret, infant daughter of Dr. SAVAGE, of Armagh. May 2 in Belfast, Agnes, eldest daughter of the late John RITCHIE, Esq., of that town. May 1 at Bettystown, county Meath, Gerald SIMCOCKS, Esq., aged 32. April 29 at Cottage, county Westmeath, the residence of his mother, of brain fever, in the prime of his life, H.W. SHIEL, Esq., second son of the late Hugh SHIEL, of Gortumloe. April 30 at High Park, county Wicklow, of congestion of the lungs, Elizabeth, youngest daughter of Wm. JONES WESTBY, Esq., aged eleven years. April 25 at Brighton, after a few days' illness, Annie, the beloved child of Samuel SHELLEY, of Island Bridge, Dublin. May 2 in Dublin, Glascott, third son of Charles B. GIFFORD, Esq., aged 19 years. April 24, after a few hours illness, the Rev. James BRYCE, of Killeauge, near Coleraine, in the 90th year of his age, and 54th of his ministry in that congregation. April 27 at Prospect Place, Gravesend, in the 78th year of her age, Jane, relict of the late John Ratcliffe COLLINS, Esq., Skibbereen, Cork. May 6 of croup, after a few hours' illness, William, the second son of Daniel GRIFFIN, Esq., M.D., Limerick.

    03/16/2002 06:14:19
    1. [IRISH-NYC] IA Deaths NYC May 30, 1857
    2. Irish-American May 30, 1857 Deaths in New York Died at Newburgh, New York, on Monday, May 18th, of typhus fever, in the ?7th year of her age, Anna, the beloved wife of Patrick LANIGAN, and a native of Nenagh, county Tipperary, Ireland. The demise of this estimable lady will be long and deeply regretted by the family circle of which she was the centre. Circumstanced as we are, we can sincerely sympathise in the grief of her bereaved husband and orphaned children.

    03/16/2002 06:14:03
    1. [IRISH-NYC] IA Marriages May 30, 1857
    2. Irish-American May 30, 1857 Marriages in Ireland May 3 in the Church of St Andrew, Westland Row, Dublin, by the Rev. James ROONEY, cousin of the bride, Alexander FREW, Esq., North King Street, to Anne Maria, daughter of John ENNIS, Esq., Queen's Square. May 2 in the Church of St Laurence, North Strand, Dublin, by the Rev. Mr. O'DONNELL, C.C.A. DUFFIN, Esq., of Rutland Street, to Elizabeth, youngest daughter of the late Thomas H. GREAVES, Esq., of Amie? Street. May 4 at the Presbyterian Church, Mary's Abbey, Dublin, by the Rev. W. B. KIRKPATRICK, D.D., the Rev. J.A. MAGUNNIS, A.B., Corrig Avenue, Kingstown, to Lillias Sarah, only surviving daughter of the late B. McCULLOCH, Esq., Ashgrove Lodge, Kingstown. April 30 in the Scotch Church, Chapel Street, Dublin, by the Rev. William B. KIRKPATRICK, D.D., William MEGAW, Esq., of Carlton Terrace, Rathmines, to Margaret Anne, daughter of the late William NEILSON, of 10 Abbey Street, solicitor. April 29 at St. James's, Westminster, Captain W.C.F. GOSLING, of the Madras Artillery, to Harriet Caroline, only child of the late J.W. MORTON, Esq., of Hacketstown, Carlow. April 25 at Five-mile-town Church, county Tyrone, by the Rev. Robert GAGE, uncle of the bride, the Rev. T. OLPHERT, of Newtownlimavady, to Julia, eldest daughter of the late Sir Hugh STEWART, of Ballygawley House, county Tyrone. In Galway, Edward McGUIRE, Esq., A.B., Queen's College, to Bedilla, fifth daughter of the late Charles O'LOUGHLEN, Esq., of Newtown Castle, county Clare. In Dublin, Major A.W.S. FREEMAN ARMSTRONG, 18th Royal Irish, to Annie, only child of the late John PENTAND BEASELEY, Esq., Springfield, county Cork. In Dublin, Augustus S.M. ALBY, Esq., to Elizabeth, daughter of the late Francis FOSBERRY, Esq., of Castle Widenham, county Cork. April 30 at Ballymodan Church, Bandon, George DOBBIN, Esq., of Lower Gardiner Street, Dublin, to Lizzie, second daughter of Samuel WOOD, Esq., A.M.M.B., Avenue House, Bandon. May 5 at Carberry Church, by the Rev. Thos. HARE, Mr. Henry MATHER, of Kurathmurry, county Kildare, to Marianne, fourth daughter of the late Edward FIELDING, Esq., of Mullingar, county Westmeath. May 5 at Monkstown Church, M. GREENE JACKSON, Esq., Lieutenant, Royal Navy, youngest son of the late George JACKSON, Esq., of Dublin, to Eliza, youngest daughter of the late Geo. RUMLEY, Esq., M.D. May 5 at Gort Church, by the Very Rev. the Dean of Kilmaoduagh, Mr. Benjamin JOHNSON of Ballina, in the county Mayo, to Anne, second daughter of Mr. Festus KELLY, of Gort. April 30 at Killinchy Church, Robert E. WARD, Esq., of Bangor Castle, county Down, to Harriette, daughter of the Hon. and Rev. Henry WARD, rector of Killinchy.

    03/16/2002 06:13:47
    1. Re: [IRISH-NYC] Kerry Gold
    2. Elizabeth V. Cardinal
    3. Joy Thank you for the information. I checked the website with great hope.....they have stores on the East Coast of Florida and I live on the West Coast. Drats.... Elizabeth V. Cardinal EVC1369@comcast.net evcardinal@yahoo.com www.geocities.com/evcardinal/

    03/16/2002 04:02:13
    1. [IRISH-NYC] BARRETT natz
    2. The BARRETT archive has many Johns` that I found while looking for my gggfather, from Sligo. BARRETT-L@rootsweb.com Barbara : )

    03/16/2002 01:25:52
    1. [IRISH-NYC] Kerry Gold
    2. Joy Foertsch
    3. I believe this is the mailing list with the discussion about Kerry Gold Butter and Cheese-well I found them at Wild Oats Market. It is a chain all over that goes by several different names they have a website at www.wildoats.com you could probably find one in your area. I liked the butter, the cheese was ok. Joy -----Original Message----- From: GaelEire@aol.com [mailto:GaelEire@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 11:19 AM To: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Parade Memories Does anyone have any special memories of attending the St. Patrick's Day parade? Did you enjoy it? What was your favorite part? Was it the one in New York or one in your area? Or do you have fun memories of St. Patrick's Day? Did you do something special? For our friends in Ireland - how do you observe the day? Looking forward to the memories, Tracy & Jim IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY list admins ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== Please keep your anti-virus software up-to-date and run frequent scans! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.323 / Virus Database: 180 - Release Date: 2/8/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.323 / Virus Database: 180 - Release Date: 2/8/2002

    03/16/2002 12:42:37
    1. Re: [IRISH-NYC] Parade Memories
    2. Elizabeth V. Cardinal
    3. I simply cannot resist answering this one. My best memories of the parade are from when I was a teenager and marched with the local parish band/brigade. Ok...it was in the mid fifties <grin> It was the time of school girl crushes and silly romances. When we could get away with it we would deliberately accidentally miss the bus hired to take us to and from the parade. Some of us had phony proofs or had copped an older siblings so we could get into the bars up in Yorkville. I don't remember drinking or staying out too late...we wouldn't dare...but we had a great old time, singing and dancing...especially with the college boys <grin> The parade I remember most vividly was in 1967. I worked half a day and with friends had lunch in a great place in the 50's.....John Barleycorns....and later met my husband and "did" the great Irish bars on third avenue...PJ's etc. I am totally convinced my first son was conceived that night....LOL It is and was a great day for the Irish. Here in Southwest Florida we could not get a broadcast of any of the parades.....and the Naples one was so crowded today we couldn't get near it. Elizabeth V. Cardinal EVC1369@comcast.net evcardinal@yahoo.com www.geocities.com/evcardinal/

    03/16/2002 09:47:46
    1. Re: [IRISH-NYC] IA Marriages May 23, 1857
    2. Elizabeth V. Cardinal
    3. Does the list have a website where this wonderful information is being displayed? May we pass the info onto other lists? Elizabeth V. Cardinal EVC1369@comcast.net evcardinal@yahoo.com www.geocities.com/evcardinal/

    03/16/2002 09:39:11
    1. Re: [IRISH-NYC] naturalization records
    2. Elizabeth V. Cardinal
    3. <<Hi Elisabeth.. What year did he die??>> My great grandfather died in 1902. Elizabeth V. Cardinal EVC1369@comcast.net evcardinal@yahoo.com www.geocities.com/evcardinal/

    03/16/2002 09:26:32
    1. Re: [IRISH-NYC] Don't overlook
    2. Barbara
    3. My gfather was a harness maker and killed by a co-worker sometime after 1910. At least that was the family story. I found him listed in a directory for 1900 at the correct address as the census (just double checking) but I have no other means of searching here from sunny Florida. I believe he owned his shop. Perhaps there would be a way to locate that property. Any hints? Thanks for your encouragement. I will find this guy eventually. I plan to drive up to NY in the spring and find something's out for myself, I hope. Regards, Barbara

    03/16/2002 07:13:40
    1. Re: [IRISH-NYC] naturalization records
    2. Barbara
    3. Did send them 1900 census address plus date of marriage and anything else I could think of. The next time I ever have a child I will name him/her something outlandish like Xanadooooo. And I am over 65 so don't think that's going to happen. Thank you for your advice. Hope I hear soon. Barbara

    03/16/2002 07:09:12
    1. RE: [IRISH-NYC] Don't overlook
    2. Maureen
    3. Barbara, Have you checked to see who actually owned the property that the shop was located at??? Sometimes the land records can give you alot of info that most people might not think of looking for.. Maureen NW FL (Bit hazey here today tho <VBG>) -----Original Message----- From: Barbara [mailto:hopso@mindspring.com] Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 1:14 PM To: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Don't overlook My gfather was a harness maker and killed by a co-worker sometime after 1910. At least that was the family story. I found him listed in a directory for 1900 at the correct address as the census (just double checking) but I have no other means of searching here from sunny Florida. I believe he owned his shop. Perhaps there would be a way to locate that property. Any hints? Thanks for your encouragement. I will find this guy eventually. I plan to drive up to NY in the spring and find something's out for myself, I hope. Regards, Barbara ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== Mark your calendar for the 11th annual Genealogy and Technology (GENTECH) conference - Digital Technology...The Ancestral Frontier - in Phoenix, Arizona on January 17-18, 2003. For the latest information, please visit the website regularly: http://www.gentech.org ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    03/16/2002 06:55:59
    1. [IRISH-NYC] Parade Memories
    2. Does anyone have any special memories of attending the St. Patrick's Day parade? Did you enjoy it? What was your favorite part? Was it the one in New York or one in your area? Or do you have fun memories of St. Patrick's Day? Did you do something special? For our friends in Ireland - how do you observe the day? Looking forward to the memories, Tracy & Jim IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY list admins

    03/16/2002 05:18:50