Greetings All. As our effort of the past week, faxing Industry Minister Allan Rock to encourage him to effect immediate transfer of Historic Census records to the National Archives was intended to be a short term exercise, we will now bring it to a halt. We thank all of those who sent their fax. Although we have no way of knowing how many faxes were actually sent, we believe that our effort was a success. I had a report over the weekend that both the Ministry fax, and Mr. Rock's office fax had stopped receiving. My assumption is that both machines had run out of paper which would indicate that they had been busy. Thank you all for your support. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission for forward without notice is granted.

I enjoyed all the recent discussion regarding Calvary Cemetery and how to obtain information from them. It was very informative and I should have saved it. At the time, I didn't think I would need the information. Now, however, I have discovered that my great, great grandfather Moses Shields was buried there in 1867. Are there archives of the list where I would be able to retrieve those discussions? If not, would some kind soul be willing to send me details of where to address a request to Calvary and what information I need in order to maximize my chances of receiving a response? Thank you so much for any help you are able to offer! Linda Randall

Please direct all replies to: mgra@msn.com Looking for any other depositories for letters or manuscripts on Dr. William James MacNeven, besides those at the NY Historical Soc. and NY Public Library, thanks, Randy

Hi: Research: Patrick Swift-Immig. 1871-Wife Mary Clarke Michael Eagan- Immig. 1880-Wife Mary Mullen Thomas Coyle-Wife Lizzie Clarke- Immig. 1875 John Murray and Harry Dusenberry. Ed

If you have a Wildoats near you or go to wildoats.com-they have several stores under different names and they carry this stuff too. Joy -----Original Message----- From: kdonnelly@socal.rr.com [mailto:kdonnelly@socal.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 6:32 PM To: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Kerrygold Butter Yep, there's nothing to beat the butter and cheese made at home. I live in So. California. Can you tell me which supermarket you got the butter and cheese. I'm not familiar with IGA? We have some Asian stores near us, so I would appreciate any info. Thanks, Kathleen ----- Original Message ----- From: <SPAGHETTICOWBOY@cs.com> To: <IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 6:30 PM Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Kerrygold Butter > Hi All: > > About a few months ago there was some discussion going on about Kerrygold > Pure Irish Butter. I was curious but unable to find any in my local markets > of my So Cal community. > > Well, a new IGA chain opened up in nearby Rancho Cucamonga and I came across > some Dubliner cheese. I bought it, then wondered if they had the butter. Sure > enough...they had it so I bought 2 half pound packs. I really really like > this butter. I now have my brother and neighbor hooked on it. > > The thing of it is, that I could not find Kerrygold...made in Ireland...until > I found it in a store chain managed by Chinese.. Only in America. lol > > Jim McCarthy > Upland CA > Researching: MCCARTHY...QUINN...FRANCIS...KENNEDY > NELSON...STOUT...D'AMICO...FICKINGER > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== Adopt a US County list http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/adoptable/ Adopt a Surname list http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/adoptable/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.338 / Virus Database: 189 - Release Date: 3/14/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.338 / Virus Database: 189 - Release Date: 3/14/2002

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN; I was wondering, if SKS would, please, do a lookup for the surname of GRIGGS in the 1910 New York Census. Thank you very much. Shannah

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My g-grandfather's name was Luke but his father was James. My g-g-grandfather named his first son after his father who was also James so now we have four James. His third son though was named John BAILEY Cranney. I know his mother's maiden name was Rose McMahon. Where could the BAILEY as a middle name come from? Also, my Luke named his first son Luke after himself but he had a cousin that was named Luke born just 8 months after my Luke. Someone in the family had to be named Luke. I have found five Lukes! Help, how can I trace the origin of Luke? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you Ginger ----- Original Message ----- From: Maureen Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 6:54 PM To: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Re: Names The Irish frequently used mother's maiden names as first names, especially for the sons .... but also for daughters. Common first names today, like Kelly and Tracy, were mother's maiden surnames when they were originally given as first names or used in combinations such as Mary Kelly. But I think that was later .... and perhaps among those who had a significant maiden name to carry on. The peasants pretty much stayed with their saints' names until they got a little higher up the social ladder in the U.S. and could afford sentimentality. Maureen --- Norafitz@aol.com wrote: > In my husband's paternal family, a great uncle's middle > name was his paternal > grandmother's maiden name. The rest of his siblings had > his mother's maiden > name as a middle name including the girls. > > > > > > > > I've also seen several times a son's first or middle > name is his mother's > > maiden name. This can sometimes prove an invaluable > clue! > > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > Please keep your anti-virus software up-to-date and run > frequent scans! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ===== Researching: Costello, Lynch, Raftree/Raftery, Doran, Cotter, Shannon, Sullivan, Gansberg, Bove, Zeidt/Seitz, VonAlleman/Wollerman, Amacher, Giefer, Fischer, Marlot, Koch, Hense, Jackler, Alvine, Shook, Shelly, Prichard, Tye, Daly, Early, Greene, Callaghan, Fitzgerald, McGrath __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== Mark your calendar for the 11th annual Genealogy and Technology (GENTECH) conference - Digital Technology...The Ancestral Frontier - in Phoenix, Arizona on January 17-18, 2003. For the latest information, please visit the website regularly: http://www.gentech.org ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

In my husband's paternal family, a great uncle's middle name was his paternal grandmother's maiden name. The rest of his siblings had his mother's maiden name as a middle name including the girls. > > > I've also seen several times a son's first or middle name is his mother's > maiden name. This can sometimes prove an invaluable clue!

The Irish frequently used mother's maiden names as first names, especially for the sons .... but also for daughters. Common first names today, like Kelly and Tracy, were mother's maiden surnames when they were originally given as first names or used in combinations such as Mary Kelly. But I think that was later .... and perhaps among those who had a significant maiden name to carry on. The peasants pretty much stayed with their saints' names until they got a little higher up the social ladder in the U.S. and could afford sentimentality. Maureen --- Norafitz@aol.com wrote: > In my husband's paternal family, a great uncle's middle > name was his paternal > grandmother's maiden name. The rest of his siblings had > his mother's maiden > name as a middle name including the girls. > > > > > > > > I've also seen several times a son's first or middle > name is his mother's > > maiden name. This can sometimes prove an invaluable > clue! > > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > Please keep your anti-virus software up-to-date and run > frequent scans! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ===== Researching: Costello, Lynch, Raftree/Raftery, Doran, Cotter, Shannon, Sullivan, Gansberg, Bove, Zeidt/Seitz, VonAlleman/Wollerman, Amacher, Giefer, Fischer, Marlot, Koch, Hense, Jackler, Alvine, Shook, Shelly, Prichard, Tye, Daly, Early, Greene, Callaghan, Fitzgerald, McGrath __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com

off the top of my head - 153rd might be Bronx, the others are definitely Manhattan - Upper East Side. The addresses (and even the buildings maybe) are the same as in 1887.

John: I've written for baptism cert. with a lot of success. Sometimes more info on these then NYC cert.! I usually know the name of the church and would give the rectory a call to get the name of the pastor. I would the write my letter/request to the pastor for the baptismal cert with a name, date range and if possible parents' names. I would also include a donation to the church (check) and if you want it back fast.. include a self - addressed stamped envelope. best of luck susan ----- Original Message ----- From: <Snaturequest@aol.com> To: <IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 3:18 AM Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Baptism Cert > Hi List--How does one begin to obtain a baptism cert from a NYC church ? > John > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > Do you miss receiving MISSING LINKS and SOMEBODY'S LINKS? If so, > just subscribe to: > http://www.petuniapress.com/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

The KLEZ actually turned OFF and disabled my husband's anti-virus program. It would then not allow me to turn it back on, nor would it allow me to download the patch to check for the virus of fix it. ----- Original Message ----- From: <GaelEire@aol.com> To: <IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:42 AM Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Virus Warning > There is a particularly nasty worm/virus making the rounds right now. It's > called KLEZ. It appears in your inbox as an update to your virus software. > The email tells you to disable your AV software so it can 'pretend' to be the > virus to clean your computer. > > DON'T DO IT! It is actually the virus. Never disable your AV software. > > Please be sure you have the most current updates on your virus software and > run scans frequently. > > NOTE: No one on this list is infected. > > Thank you for your time and patience, > Tracy > > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY list admin > > > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > List Administrators: > Tracy Cassidy GaelEire@aol.com > Jim McCarthy SPAGHETTICOWBOY@cs.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

or go to yahoo.com click on "maps" put in the address. when the map comes up, go to "nearby businesses" then click on "community; religion" Type in "catholic church" You'll get a list in order of proximity to your address. Then go to http://www.geocities.com/~agiroux/nychurch.htm#manhattan to see the dates of establishment. At 11:56 AM 04/27/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Probably about 20 or 30 Catholic churches were pretty >close. They were often 4-6 blocks apart in those days when >1000-1500 people were often living on one square block in >NYC and one square block formed an entire Census ED! > >Go to the Archdiocese of NY web site and go through the >addresses. You will see when each parish was formed. Some >of those old churches have now closed, and you can learn >there on that site which existing church is storing the old >records from the closed church. Contact those that >interest you and ask them what their boundaries were in the >old days. > >Another notion is to contact the Archdiocesan Archivist >.... perhaps there are old maps from the 19th century and >early 20th century of parish boundaries that we could >acquire and put up on the Irish-NYC web site for all to >share!!! > >Perhaps the Archivist has TONS of stuff we'd love to have >on the web site!!! > > >--- Snaturequest@aol.com wrote: > > What Catholic church's were located close to E 17th > > street in NYC in 1880 ? > > Thank You > > John Scanlon > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness >http://health.yahoo.com > > >==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== >Please don't flame anyone on the list. If you do, you will be >unsubscribed. If you are flamed, please contact the list admin privately. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

use yahoo.com "maps" At 06:35 PM 04/27/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Can anyone tell me if these address s where in the Bronx >1887,,,,207 east 83 st. ,,,153 east 92 st ,,,504 east 153 st. >Thank you. LEE GI MI > > >==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== >Please don't flame anyone on the list. If you do, you will be >unsubscribed. If you are flamed, please contact the list admin privately. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I am also looking for LEDDY in Brooklyn/Queens: Patrick LEDDY 1822-1894 from County Cavan, m. Catherine McCARTHY children: Ann Catherine LEDDY (1854-19350 m. Patrick McDONALD Daniel LEDDY (1856-1940) who married Ms. UNKNOWN who died about 1 year after the marriage, no children known Thomas Patrick LEDDY (1858-1925) aka Tommy, marriage and children unknown If any of these folks sound familiar let me know! Also, my father's first wife was a MULLEN but from Philadelphia. I don't know much about the family; did any of your Mullens hail from or travel to Philly? Sara

I wrote to St Michaels Catholic church requesting baptism records with a donation. A week later I received a reply that they could not find anything and thanks for the donation. Recently I contacted them again, looking for information about a marriage certificate from St Michaels in 1862. I've been trying to find where in Ireland they were from and someone mentioned the priest would have asked what church they were baptised in, so maybe this would tell me where in Ireland. I got a call this time from the priest there who said they did not have records that far back at all. In a message dated 04/27/2002 1:20:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Snaturequest@aol.com writes: > Hi List--How does one begin to obtain a baptism cert from a NYC church ? > John > > >

In a message dated 4/27/02 3:24:44 PM Central Daylight Time, Schmoo598@aol.com writes: > I've also seen several times a son's first or middle name is his mother's > maiden name. This can sometimes prove an invaluable clue! > > > Another thing to watch for is if you have a child born to a single mother. Sometimes the child's middle name is the real father's last name! Take care, Tracy Thank you for submitting your research interests to the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Surname Database. We have received the following data: Surname: From: Borough: Dates: Contact: If this information is incorrect, please reply to this email with any changes. Thank you, T Cassidy IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY list admin

>From Snaturequest@aol.com : Thanks Ginger- That was impressive-but my guess was wrong-I know my great uncles name(He was my grandfathers first born),Im looking for my grand parents , parents names,now I  probably know my great great grandfathers first name.I thank you for your time.Ive been climbing the proverbial brick wall for a long time. John

Can anyone tell me if these address s where in the Bronx 1887,,,,207 east 83 st. ,,,153 east 92 st ,,,504 east 153 st. Thank you. LEE GI MI