Greetings All. The latest of my columns on Post 1901 Census has just been posted. Included in the column are suggested letters to send to the Information Commissioner following rejection of your Access to Information requests for access to records of the 1906 Census by the National Archives or Statistics Canada. These letters of complaint are an essential part of our current campaign. Other than an acknowledgement of receipt I would not expect a response for several months. I have been advised that some have received telephone calls from the office of the Information Commissioner, asking if they still wish to proceed with their complaint. Should this happen to you, the response should be YES. Our requests for access can in no way be considered frivolous, and our complaints are not vexatious. We are very serious in our desire for access to these vital records. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted.

NARA film # T9-856: 1880 US Census, Kings Co. NY Ward 24, ED 241, pgs 490a-496b. Part 14 of 14 I will list each name, age, birthplace, and birthplace of father and mother. ALL boys were listed as 'white', 'male', 'single', and 'at school', some could not read and/or write (usually children age 7 and younger. There is NO other information. ST.JOHN HOME FOR [DESTITUTE] BOYS - no street address given. Name.........age.......birthplace.....father, mother birthplace James FINNERTY....13....NY,Ire,Ire Daniel MURPHY....6....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read,write) James WILSON....7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read, write) James FOOLEY....7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read,write) John SILK....8....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read,write) James SILK....6....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read,write) John D.BOLGER....9....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) Thomas BOLGER...7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read,write) James BURNS....10....NY,Ire,Ire John McKENNA....11....NY,Ire,Ire William FULLERTON....12...NY,Ire,Ire Walter O'BRIEN....11....NY,Ire,Ire Samuel ANCINA....9....NY,Ire,Ire Phillip HANRAHAN....10...NY,Ire,Ire Michael TUMEY....10....NY,Ire,Ire James DRAGAN....10...NY,Ire,Ire Mortimer FLOOD....10...NY,Ire,Ire Charles LUKUNER....12....NY,Ire,Ire William LUKUNER....14....NY,Ire,Ire John MURPHY....13....NY,Ire,Ire John BRADLEY....12...NY,Ire,Ire James MOORE....14....NY,Ire,Ire Thomas O'DONNELL....13....NY,Ire,Ire Eugene DALEY....13....NY,Ire,Ire Dennis DALEY....9....NY,Ire,Ire George MULLEN....7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read, write) John LEARY....7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read, write) Michael MULLEN...9....NY,Ire,Ire Edward McALEN....9....NY,Ire,Ire Alexander SHINE....7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read, write) William WELLS....14....NY,Ire,Ire John McALEER.....12....NY,Ire,Ire Stephen McALEER....10....NY,Ire,Ire John CREIGHTON....10....NY,Ire,Ire William DOOLEY.....11....NY,Ire,Ire James DOOLEY....9....NY,Ire,Ire William CORCORAN....8....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) Francis HAYES....11......NY,Ire,Ire John MACKEY....12....NY,Ire,Ire John MALLOY....12....NY,Ire,Ire Joseph MALONE....9....NY,Ire,Ire Henry STRAND?.....6....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read,write) James McNEIL.....9....NY,Ire,Ire Michael REILLY.....13....NY,Ire,Ire John WILSON....6....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read,write) James CALLAHAN....7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read,write) Edward CALLAHAN....9....NY,Ire,Ire William SHAW.....10....NY,Ire,Ire Thomas LAWLER....12....NY,Ire,Ire George BAKER....10.....NY,Ire,Ire End of St.Johns Home for Boys Stay tuned for Howard Colored Home for Boys [and some girls] transcribed by Marilynn Wright

NARA film # T9-856: 1880 US Census, Kings Co. NY Ward 24, ED 241, pgs 490a-496b. Part 13 of 14 I will list each name, age, birthplace, and birthplace of father and mother. ALL boys were listed as 'white', 'male', 'single', and 'at school', some could not read and/or write (usually children age 7 and younger. There is NO other information. ST.JOHN HOME FOR [DESTITUTE] BOYS - no street address given. Name.........age.......birthplace.....father, mother birthplace William PARCELL....8....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) David STANTON....7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read,write) William MINDEMAN....13...NY,Ire,Ire Thomas MINDEMAN....10...NY,Ire,Ire John O'BRIEN.....10....NY,Ire,Ire William TATZINGER....14....NY,Ire,Ire John KING.....14....NY,Ire,Ire Michael BARNES.....9....NY,Ire,Ire James BURNS.....11....NY,Ire,Ire Luke BURKE.....11....NY,Ire,Ire James BROOKS....11....NY,Ire,Ire Frank BROOKS....9.....NY,Ire,Ire William BURTON....13....NY,Ire,Ire Augustus BISHOP.....8....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read,write) Charles CURRAN.....9....NY,Ire,Ire Michael CUMMISKY....9....NY,Ire,Ire Charles COZINE.....9....NY,Ire,Ire Michael CLIFFORD....11....NY,Ire,Ire Frank CUSACK....11....NY,Ire,Ire George FLEMMING....13....NY,Ire,Ire John GLEASON....13....NY,Ire,Ire Thomas GILBERT....10....NY,Ire,Ire Edward GUNNING....13....NY,Ire,Ire Robert HEENEY....13.....NY,Ire,Ire William HEENEY....11....NY,Ire,Ire John HENRY....9....NY,Ire,Ire William KELLEY....12....NY,Ire,Ire Joseph KELLEY...10....NY,Ire,Ire Walter KELLEY.....10.....NY,Ire,Ire Michael LARKIN....9....NY,Ire,Ire Thomas MEEGAN....9....NY,Ire,Ire John MEEGAN....7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read,write) Frank McBRIDE....10...NY,Ire,Ire John McCULICK....13...NY,Ire,Ire James DAVISON....13....NY,Ire,Ire Robert FAULKNER....13...NY,Ire,Ire John HALEY....12....NY,Ire,Ire Frank McMAHON....12...NY,Ire,Ire Joseph MEEGAN....9....NY,Ire,Ire John McEVOY....9....NY,Ire,Ire Henry O'CONNELL....10...NY,Ire,Ire John RICHMOND....10....NY,Ire,Ire Alfred RUSSELL....12....NY,Ire,Ire Henry TALBOT....14....NY,Ire,Ire Charles TRAINOR....14....NY,Ire,Ire Michael WALSH....13....NY,Ire,Ire Peter HANLEY....10....NY,Ire,Ire Joseph KELLEY....7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) Michael KELLEY....12....NY,Ire,Ire Joseph O'BRIEN....13....NY,Ire,Ire ....end of part 13.... .....to be continued.... transcribed by Marilynn Wright

Country of Arrival Records - Passport Records Many people are under the impression that only the rich travelled abroad prior to the mid-20th century. This is a misconception. Many ordinary Americans travelled frequently to Europe, usually to visit family in their homeland. Passports were, as they are now, issued to those travelling outside the United States. Even though a passport wasn't a legal requirement until 1941, they were issued as early as 1795! Passports were issued free-of-charge until July 1, 1862, when a three dollar fee was imposed. The Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) produced the following figures: 1810-1873: 130,360 passports issued 1877-1909: 369,844 passports issued 1912-1925: 1,184,085 passports issued Even though there was no law requiring travellers to obtain a passport until 1941, there were certain periods in American history when a passport was required. The two most notable periods are: August 19, 1861 through March 17, 1862 May 22, 1918 through 1921 - following the formal end to WWI There are different types of passports, but the one most useful to the researcher is the regular, standard-issue passport. This type gives the most information including date and place of birth, physical description, occupation and destination. If the individual was a naturalized citizen, the passport *may* state the court and date of naturalization, as well as the ship he/she arrived on. Was a passport issued to everyone who applied? No. Aliens were *not* issued passports unless they had made their Declaration of Intent in a court of law. (Remember from the Naturalization series that this was the first step in obtaining citizenship.) The law regarding aliens was enacted and subsequently repealed several times throughout history. How do you know if an ancestor travelled abroad? This is certainly easier to ascertain if your ancestor lived during the time period of Ellis Island. The Ellis Island Database lists all arriving individuals, not just newly-arrived immigrants. It's definitely worth the time to run your ancestors' names through their database. You may be surprised to see them returning home from a trip to the old country! Passport applications from October 1795 through March 1925 can be found at the National Archives (NARA). To request a search, you can simply email NARA with the individual's name and approximate year of travel. The NARA website (fee information included): http://www.nara.gov To search these films yourself, you will need the following: Registers and Indexes for Passport Applications 1810-1906 Record Group: M1371. NOTE: This film covers the following dates: December 21, 1810-October 7, 1817; February 22, 1830-November 15, 1831 and November 14, 1834-February 28, 1906. Index to Passport Applications Record Group: M1848. NOTE: This film covers the following years: 1850-1852; 1860-1880; 1881; 1906-1923. The two microfilms mentioned above can also be found at the New York Public Library. To obtain a passport application issued after 1925, you will need to contact the Department of State: http://www.state.gov/

Greetings All. I have this morning been sent my first reply from Statistics Canada in response to an Accesst to Information Request for access to the 1906 Census of the Western Provinces. As expected, that response from StatCan was a refusal to provide the information requested. Their refusal was based upon section 24(1) and Schedule II of the ATI Act. I provide here a suggested letter of complaint to be forwarded to the Information Commissioner. As with the letter of complaint regarding the inability of the National Archives to provide access to these records, those spaces enclosed with square brackets should be substituted with the suggested information. Feel free to modify the letter to suit your own circumstances, but be sure to include the points made in my suggested letter. As indicated in a previous post, we should continue to submit ATI requests to Statistics Canada for some time to come (one per individual). We consider this tactic to be a long range one and will probably be continued until we have achieved our goal. Requests to the National Archives have probably served their purpose and for the time being at least can be discontinued. With each refusal to provide access we must submit a complaint to the Information Commissioner. In my last column I provided addresses to send ATI requests, complaints to the Information Commissioner and letters to the Privacy Commissioner. Rather than repeat those here, that column may be accessed by clicking this URL: http://globalgazette.net/gazce/gazce83.htm Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted. ====================================== Mr. John Reid Information Commissioner of Canada Place de Ville, Tower B 112 Kent Street, 22nd Floor Ottawa, Ontario K1A 1H3 Dear Sir; On [date] I forwarded an Access to Information Request to Statistics Canada. With this request I sought general access to schedules of the 1906 Census of the Western Provinces of Canada (Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta). On [date] I was advised by [letter/telephone] that Statistics Canada was unable to provide me with the requested information. In refusing to provide me with the information requested, Statistics Canada stated "schedules of the 1906 Census are being exempted from disclosure pursuant to section 24 of the Access to Information Act which reads as follows: 24(1) The head of a government institution shall refuse to disclose any record requested under this Act that contains information the disclosure of which is restricted by or pursuant to any provision set out in Schedule II. Schedule II includes section 17 of the Statistics Act." Mr. Commissioner, clauses in the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Regulation 6(d) of the Privacy Act specifically provide for access to personal information from Census, to any person or body, for purposes of research, 92 years following collection. It is my belief that restriction to access of this vital information, as per section 24(1) of the ATI Act, was intended to be in force only until the expiration of the 92 year period of closure stipulated by Regulation 6(d) of the Privacy Act. The Access to Information Act and the Privacy Act were born of the same legislative Bill. It does not seem logical that legislators of the day, deliberating on this Bill, would deliberately include clauses in these Acts that directly opposed each other and had the effect of one nullifying the other. Clauses in Instructions to Officers and Enumerators of Census for 1906 (and other years) clearly state that records of Census "have value as a record for historical use" (Clause 20) and that "The census is intended to be a permanent record, and its schedules will be stored in the Archives of the Dominion." (Clause 34). Similar clauses were included in Instruction to Officers and Enumerators of Census from at least 1901 to 1946. The National Archives of Canada Act provides that the National Archivist of Canada shall determine what records of government have historical and archival value, and that shall be deposited in the National Archives. The National Archivist has determined that Census records do have historical and archival value, and that they are, in fact, a National Treasure. The pertinent legislation and regulations clearly state that I should have unrestricted access, through the National Archives, to nominal schedules of Census 92 years after collection. Records of the 1906 Census should have been available from 1998, now four years past. This letter is to be considered my official complaint regarding the refusal of Statistics Canada to allow access to schedules of the 1906 Census of the Western Provinces, or to transfer control of schedules of the 1906 Census of the Western Provinces to the National Archivist as per the applicable legislation and regulations. Thank you. [Signature and address]

NARA film # T9-856: 1880 US Census, Kings Co. NY Ward 24, ED 241, pgs 490a-496b. Part 12 of 14 I will list each name, age, birthplace, and birthplace of father and mother. ALL boys were listed as 'white', 'male', 'single', and 'at school', some could not read and/or write (usually children age 7 and younger. There is NO other information. ST.JOHN HOME FOR [DESTITUTE] BOYS - no street address given. Name.........age.......birthplace.....father, mother birthplace Frank TROUVENER....11...NY,Ire,Ire John GARVEY....13....NY,Ire,Ire John LOWDNES....13....NY,Ire,Ire James GARVEY....8....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) William FITZPATRICK....9....NY,Ire,Ire William KENNEY.....11....NY,Ire,Ire Henry HAMMILL.....10....NY,Ire,Ire Joseph HIGGERTY....13...NY,Ire,Ire Albert COFFEE.....7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read,write) Peter McAVOY.....10...NY,Ire,Ire Robert NELSON....9....NY,Ire,Ire Benjamin FULLER....9....NY,Ire,Ire Edward BERRY.....11....NY,Ire,Ire Harry FULLER....12....NY,Ire,Ire James BARRY.....10....NY,Ire,Ire William GILLIGAN....12....NY,Ire,Ire Thomas O'BRIEN....10....NY,Ire,Ire George BALDWIN....10....NY,Ire,Ire William LATIMORE...11....NY,Ire,Ire Peter MELLON.....9....NY,Ire,Ire Frank MARTIN....12....NY,Ire,Ire Frank LITTLE.....8....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) William LITTLE....6....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read,write) William FREEMAN....10....NY,Ire,Ire Patrick CAVANAUGH....7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read,write) James RYAN.....11....NY,Ire,Ire William RYAN....13....NY,Ire,Ire Patrick STANTON.....12...NY,Ire,Ire Stephen STANTON....10...NY,Ire,Ire Charles STANTON....9....NY,Ire,Ire Philip GORMILEY....9....NY,Ire,Ire James HOGAN.....11...NY,Ire,Ire Richard SCARLET....13....NY,Ire,Ire George CARROLL....13...NY,Ire,Ire William PYLE....12....NY,Ire,Ire James WARNER....10....NY,Ire,Ire Daniel FITZGERALD....13...NY,Ire,Ire William CHANNING....10...NY,Ire,Ire Clement? HUGHES.....11....NY,Ire,Ire James McMAHON.....8....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) John MORRIS.....10....NY,Ire,Ire John REYNOLDS....11....NY,Ire,Ire William JAGO....10....NY,Ire,Ire [could be JAGS] Patrick BAHAN....10....NY,Ire,Ire George LANG.....9....NY,Ire,Ire Thomas CARROLL....11....NY,Ire,Ire John BANNON....12....NY,Ire,Ire John SHIELDS....12....NY,Ire,Ire John MURPHY....12.....NY,Ire,Ire Thomas MARCEY....13....NY,Ire,Ire end of part 12.... ....to be continued.... transcribed by Marilynn Wright

NARA film # T9-856: 1880 US Census, Kings Co. NY Ward 24, ED 241, pgs 490a-496b. Part 11 of 14 I will list each name, age, birthplace, and birthplace of father and mother. ALL boys were listed as 'white', 'male', 'single', and 'at school', some could not read and/or write (usually children age 7 and younger. There is NO other information. ST.JOHN HOME FOR [DESTITUTE] BOYS - no street address given. Name.........age.......birthplace.....father, mother birthplace Thomas WALKER....13....NY,Ire,Ire John O'NEILL....12....NY,Ire,Ire Luke BRISCOE....13....NY,Ire,Ire Daniel BRESLIN....14....NY,Ire,Ire Michael BROWN....12....NY,Ire,Ire James BRADY.....11....NY,Ire,Ire Thomas WALCH....13...NY,Ire,Ire Michael McCONNIN...13.....NY,Ire,Ire Peter DORCEY....14....NY,Ire,Ire Peter FLANIGAN....11.....NY,Ire,Ire James KENNY....14....NY,Ire,Ire John WYLING....10...NY,Ire,Ire Joseph WALSH....11.....NY,Ire,Ire Patrick JOYCE.....9....NY,Ire,Ire Stephen McLOUGHLIN....13....NY,Ire,Ire John PIGEON....9....NY, Ire,Ire Walter BRISCOE....13....NY,Ire,Ire Benjamin WOODS....14....NY,Ire,Ire George SAMMON....10....NY,Ire,Ire Patrick REGAN....13....NY,Ire,Ire Thomas KENNEDY....14....NY,Ire,Ire George PANZETTA.....12...NY,Ire,Ire Martin LENNON.....12....NY,Ire,Ire John KINSLEY.....13....NY,Ire,Ire Edward BRADY....10....NY,Ire,Ire James McGANN.....12....NY,Ire,Ire John McGANN....10....NY,Ire,Ire John TONER.....13....NY,Ire,Ire George TOMPKINS....11....NY,Ire,Ire James DONNELLY....13....NY,Ire,Ire John CARNEY.....9....NY,Ire,Ire Michael KELLY....14....NY,Ire,Ire Edward LOWERY.....10....NY,Ire,Ire Frank McCUE.....11....NY,Ire,Ire Richard SLATTERY....12....NY,Ire,Ire James RUSSELL.....12.....NY,Ire,Ire Robert RAY.....10....NY,Ire,Ire John WALKER.....11....NY,Ire,Ire Michael REGAN....10....NY,Ire,Ire John McGANN.....14....NY,Ire,Ire William SHEPPARD.....11....NY,Ire,Ire John FITZSIMMONS....12....NY,Ire,Ire Bernard CASSIDY.....10....NY,Ire,Ire Joseph COLLIGAN....12...NY,Ire,Ire Joseph CALDWELL....11...NY,Ire,Ire James MURPHY.....12.....NY,Ire,Ire Charles DOHERTY....11....NY,Ire,Ire James DONNELL....13?....NY,Ire,Ire John CORR.....13....NY,Ire,Ire end of part 11 .....to be continued..... transcribed by Marilynn Wright

Greetings All. The following reprint from Eastman's Genealogy Newsletter may be of interest to some listers. Happy Hunting Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm =========================================== The following is a "special edition" of my weekly newsletter. A breaking news event has major financial impact to hundreds of genealogists. I elected to not wait until next week's newsletter to distribute the following article. - Dick Eastman ============================================================== - International Roots Conference Is Canceled, Would-be Attendees Lose Money The International Roots Conference has been canceled. If you registered in advance, you need to read the following information. In the June 5 edition of this newsletter, I wrote about the International Roots Conference to be held in Dearborn, Michigan on July 14 through 18, 2002. I wrote that conference organizers Marilyn R. Natchez and Steve Rosman, operating under the business name of "My Conference Planners, LLC," were planning a big conference. While I didn't mention any expected numbers of attendees in that article, the conference Web site advised that 2,000 people were expected to attend this conference. All of that came crashing down in the past few days. Last Friday, only three weeks before the scheduled start of the conference, My Conference Planners, LLC ceased operations and declared bankruptcy. The company's Web site was shut down on Tuesday, June 25. Would-be conference attendees who paid in advance for tickets are now receiving letters from a law firm advising that the conference has been canceled. Reportedly, all the money paid in advance is gone; so, creditors are advised to not contact anyone for refunds. In other words, those who paid money in advance are ***** (insert your own expletive here). Most would-be attendees paid $200 to $300 each, depending upon the luncheons, dinners and workshops selected. The owners of My Conference Planners, LLC have not released any numbers. However, if only 500 people paid in advance, the amount in question would be $100,000 to $150,000. What happened? I have no idea. Marilyn R. Natchez and Steve Rosman have not yet returned my phone call and e-mails. The lawyer handling this bankruptcy case is David Miller of the law firm Erman, Teicher, Miller, Zucker & Freedman, PC, located at: 100 Galleria Officentre Ste 333 Southfield, MI 48034-8429 Phone: (248) 827-4100 Fax: (248) 827-4106 Attorney David Miller can be reached at: dmiller@ermanteicher.com Those who feel that they have been "ripped off" might want to contact the office of Jennifer M. Granholm, the Attorney General for the State of Michigan. The Attorney General's office has an online Web site for those who wish to file consumer complaints, at: http://www.ag.state.mi.us/cp/complaint/cp_complaint_page.htm If you do file a complaint, you will be asked for the company's name and address. It is: MY CONFERENCE PLANNERS, LLC 24901 Northwestern Highway, Suite 313-B Southfield, Michigan 48075-2207 (248) 415-0159 I suspect you will be reading more about this story in future weeks.

NARA film # T9-856: 1880 US Census, Kings Co. NY Ward 24, ED 241, pgs 490a-496b. Part 10 of 14 I will list each name, age, birthplace, and birthplace of father and mother. ALL boys were listed as 'white', 'male', 'single', and 'at school', some could not read and/or write (usually children age 7 and younger. There is NO other information. ST.JOHN HOME FOR [DESTITUTE] BOYS - no street address given. Name.........age.......birthplace.....father, mother birthplace James CARROLL....10...NY, Ire Ire James McKENNA.....13...NY,Ire,Ire John McKENNA.....11....NY,Ire,Ire John GLENNON.....14....NY,Ire,Ire Edward GLENNON...12...NY,Ire,Ire Patrick GLENNON....10....NY,Ire,Ire Frank McFEILEY.....9.....NY,Ire,Ire John DANIELS.....11......NY,Ire,Ire Michael McGRATH....13....NY,Ire,Ire John McGRATH.....6....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read,write) Frank MONAHAN....8....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) John McMAHON.....11....NY,Ire,Ire Thomas McNALLY....13....NY,Ire,Ire Dennis FLYNN.....12....NY,Ire,Ire Thomas ROONEY.....11....NY,Ire,Ire Frederick DUGGAN....11...NY,Ire,Ire Christopher DALEY.....11....NY,Ire,Ire Thomas MALLADY.....13....NY,Ire,Ire Dennis SCULLY....12....NY,Ire,Ire James SCULLY.....13....NY,Ire,Ire Patrick O'BRIEN....14....NY,Ire,Ire Michael O'BRIEN....12....NY,Ire,Ire James SNEE....13....NY,Ire,Ire John SNEE.....10....NY,Ire,Ire Thomas KENNEDY....8....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read,write) Thomas RICE.....12....NY,Ire,Ire Thomas FEENEY.....13....NY,Ire,Ire Thomas MILLEN.....13....NY,Ire,Ire John MILLEN.....12....NY,Ire,Ire Thomas KELLEY....11....NY,Ire,Ire George MOTT.....10....NY,Ire,Ire James RYAN.....9....NY,Ire,Ire Bernard McCARTY.....10....NY,Ire,Ire John CUNIOR?.....10....NY,Ire,Ire Daniel KEARNEY....11.....NY,Ire,Ire Daniel MURPHY.....11.....NY,Ire,Ire Henry COLLINS.....12....NY,Ire,Ire Walter COLLINS....10....NY,Ire,Ire James CROWLEY....14...NY,Ire,Ire Edward KEARNEY....14....NY,Ire,Ire John McCORMACK.....9...NY,Ire,Ire Thomas McCORMACK.....7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read,write) Frank BURNS.....6....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read,write) George TAYLOR.....10...NY,Ire,Ire John FAY....10.....NY,Ire,Ire Stephen FAY....8....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) Frank LYNCH.....13....NY,Ire,Ire John KNIGHT.....12....NY,Ire,Ire John McCABE.....10....NY,Ire,Ire Joseph McCARTY....6....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read,write) ...end of pt 10.... ...to be continued.... transcribed by Marilynn Wright

NARA film # T9-856: 1880 US Census, Kings Co. NY Ward 24, ED 241, pgs 490a-496b. Part 9 of 14 I will list each name, age, birthplace, and birthplace of father and mother. ALL boys were listed as 'white', 'male', 'single', and 'at school', some could not read and/or write (usually children age 7 and younger. There is NO other information. ST.JOHN HOME FOR [DESTITUTE] BOYS - no street address given. Name.........age.......birthplace.....father, mother birthplace John McVETTY..10...NY,Ire,Ire [could be McVELTY] Charles WHITE.....10...NY,Ire,Ire John GIBBONS....10....NY,Ire,Ire Edward COFFEE....8....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) John COFFEE.....6....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read, write) Christopher COFFEE....10...NY,Ire,Ire William BRENNAN....8....NY,Ire Ire (cannot write) John BRENNAN.....10....NY,Ire,Ire Thomas HANSON....13....NY,Ire,Ire Daniel BUCKHART....13....NY,Ire,Ire John MACKEY....12....NY,Ire,Ire Patrick MURPHY...6....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read,write) James MURPHY....9....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) Eugene UNDERHILL....10....NY,Ire,Ire John ENNIS....10....NY,Ire,Ire Robert HOWE.....6....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read,write) James HOWE....6....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read,write) Thomas MURAY....9....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) Bernard RIELLY....7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) James REILLY.....9....NY,Ire,Ire Edward HINES....10....NY,Ire,Ire John DUFFY....10....NY,Ire,Ire George WESTON....11....NY,Ire,Ire Joseph WESTON....13....NY,Ire,Ire George KELLER....13....NY,Ire,Ire Thomas SMITH.....10.....NY,Ire,Ire James WELCH....9....NY,Ire,Ire Henry KENNEDY.....10.....NY,Ire,Ire Bernard WARD.....10....NY,Ire,Ire William McDENNOTT...13....NY,Ire,Ire (could be McDermott) Matthew SMITH.....14.....NY,Ire,Ire Peter FEENEY.....13....NY,Ire,Ire Thomas CORNELL....13....NY,Ire,Ire John CORNELL.....9....NY,Ire,Ire Robert YOUNG....7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) William HOLLEHAN....10....NY,Ire,Ire William McSHANE.....13....NY,Ire,Ire John McSHANE.....9....NY,Ire,Ire Michael RYAN.....8....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) Thomas HOLLEHAN....10....NY,Ire,Ire James FAGAN.....7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read,write) Edward McCARTY.....8....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) Thomas McCARTY....10....NY,Ire,Ire George CLARK.....7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) Frank LANGLEY....9....NY,Ire,Ire Michael CUNNINGHAM...11....NY,Ire,Ire Thomas NOLAN....11....NY,Ire,Ire Peter SULLIVAN....8.....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) Bernard McCORMACK....10...NY,Ire,Ire ...end of part 8.... ...to be continued.... transcribed by Marilynn Wright

In a message dated 6/25/02 12:28:06 PM, mwright@whidbey.net writes: >NARA film # T9-856: 1880 US Census, Kings Co. NY Ward 24, ED 241, pgs >490a-496b. > >Part 8 of 14 > >I will list each name, age, birthplace, and birthplace of father and >mother. ALL boys were listed as 'white', 'male', 'single', and 'at >school', some could not read and/or write (usually children age 7 and >younger. There is NO other information. > >ST.JOHN HOME FOR [DESTITUTE] BOYS - no street address given. > >Name.........age.......birthplace.....father, mother birthplace > >James SMITH.....10....NY,Ire,Ire >William SMITH....8....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) >William McGOVERN....11.....NY,Ire,Ire >William TIMMONS.....11....NY,Ire,Ire >Edward STONE.....5....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read/write) >Peter McNEELEY....10....NY,Ire,Ire >George SULLIVAN....13....NY,Ire,Ire >John DOHERTY.....8....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) >Daniel DOHERTY....6....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read,write) >James HUGHES....14....NY,Ire,Ire >Stephen CLANCEY.....11.....NY,Ire,Ire >Francis McDERMOTT....11....NY,Ire,Ire >James McLAUGHLIN....10....NY,Ire,Ire >William McLAUGHLIN....7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) >Charles O'CONNOR.....9....NY,Ire,Ire >James O'CONNOR.....11....NY,Ire,Ire >Hugh McCANNA....13....NY,Ire,Ire >James McCANNA....10....NY,Ire,Ire >John SHIELDS.....10....NY,Ire,Ire >George WILLIAMS....7....NY,Ire,Ir (cannot read,write) >Robert H.YOUNG....10....NY,Ire,Ire >James GREEN......10....NY,Ire,Ire >Christopher SHAFFER.....13...NY,Ire,Ire >John MAHONEY.....14....NY,Ire,Ire >Frank MAHER.....9.....NY,Ire,Ire >Robert WALSH....10....NY,Ire,Ire >Thomas WALSH....13...NY,Ire,Ire >William DONOHUE....13....NY,Ire,Ire >James DONOHUE....11....NY,Ire,Ire >Oliver KEILLY....7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write)[Reilly?] >Bernard DOHERTY....10....NY,Ire,Ire >James HIGAM.....11....NY,Ire,Ire >John MARTIN.....10....NY,Ire,Ire >James WEN.....12....NY,Ire,Ire >John TYNELL.....12...NY,Ire,Ire >John KEENAN.....10....NY,Ire,Ire >Joseph DOYLE.....10....NY,Ire,Ire >William O'KEEFE.....8....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) >John R.CLARKE....9....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read,write) >William CLARKE...7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) >William HAMILTON....14....NY,Ire,Ire > John C.SWEENEY....10....NY,Ire,Ire >John CORNELL....10....NY,Ire,Ire >William ENGLISH....13....NY,Ire,Ire >William SHERIDAN....14....NY,Ire,Ire >Frank HITT....12.....NY,Ire,Ire >James GERRITY.....11....NY,Ire,Ire >John MURPHY....13....NY,Ire,Ire > >end of part 8... >.....to be continued.... >transcribed by Marilynn Wright >

NARA film # T9-856: 1880 US Census, Kings Co. NY Ward 24, ED 241, pgs 490a-496b. Part 7 of 14 I will list each name, age, birthplace, and birthplace of father and mother. ALL boys were listed as 'white', 'male', 'single', and 'at school', some could not read and/or write (usually children age 7 and younger. There is NO other information. ST.JOHN HOME FOR [DESTITUTE] BOYS - no street address given. Name.........age.......birthplace.....father, mother birthplace James McCORMACK....10....NY,Ire,Ire James HITT.....7.....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) Thomas SHELLY....10....NY,Ire,Ire [could be SKELLY] Thomas HANSON....10...NY,Ire,Ire William WATSON.....13....NY,Ire,Ire Richard WATSON....10.....NY,Ire,Ire Edward CASEY....12.....NY, Ire,Ire John WELCH.....14....NY,Ire,Ire William JOHNSON....7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) Arthur FOSTER....11....NY,Ire,Ire Andrew FITZSIMMONS...9...NY,Ire,Ire James FITZSIMMONS....7....NY,Ire,Ire Thomas FITZSIMMONS....11...NY,Ire,Ire Hugh McCONNELL.....12....NY,Ire,Ire Francis HAGGAN.....13.....NY,Ire,Ire Andrew REILLY.....11....NY,Ire,Ire Robert FANELLY....12....NY,Ire,Ire George GLEASON....11....NY,Ire,Ire William GLEASON....9.....NY,Ire,Ire David GLEASON....7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) Patrick GLEASON....13....NY,Ire,Ire John LANGAN....12....NY,Ire,Ire Thomas LANDERS....12....NY,Ire,Ire Patrick CONNORS....12....NY,Ire,Ire Morris CONNORS....11....NY,Ire,Ire Thomas McHAMEL....10...NY, Ire,Ire Joseph HICKEY.....6....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) Peter KURGER....10....NY,Ire,Ire Charles KURGER....11....NY,Ire,Ire James DENEVAN....13....NY,Ire,Ire James KEARNEY....12....NY,Ire,Ire Henry STACK....6....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) James CAVANAUGH....10....NY,Ire,Ire Jas.? McDERMOTT....11.....NY,Ire,Ire John McDERMOTT....9.....NY,Ire,Ire Peter HANSEN.....10....NY,Ire,Ire Francis CARROLL....12.....NY,Ire,Ire Heib? CARROLL.....11.....NY,Ire,Ire Thomas McSHANE.....13....NY,Ire,Ire John KELLEY.....11....NY,Ire,Ire George KELLEY....14....NY,Ire,Ire Richard HYLAND....10....NY,Ire,Ire James BRENNAN.....9....NY,Ire,Ire John McCABE.....11.....NY,Ire,Ire Daniel CAREY.....9.....NY,Ire,Ire Edward CAREY....11....NY,Ire,Ire Michael LYNCH.....6....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) Patrick MALONEY.....6....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) Thomas MALONEY....8.....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) Joseph JAMISON....10....NY,Ire,Ire end of part 7 ......to be continued.... transcribed by Marilynn Wright

Has anyone ever come across a marrage between a HUNT and a Tetsworth (Titsworth) in there Hunt searching. LEE GI MI

Bill Try this site: http://www.ny-archdiocese.org/pastoral/get_parishes.cfm Good Luck, Dotty McManus

St. John's Home for (Destitute) Boys is still in existence. It is in Rockaway Beach. Address would be: St. John's Home for Boys Beach 110th Street Rockaway Beach, NY 11693 or 11694? Hope this helps someone. Peggy in Rockaway Beach

NARA film # T9-856: 1880 US Census, Kings Co. NY Ward 24, ED 241, pgs 490a-496b. Part 6 of 14 I will list each name, age, birthplace, and birthplace of father and mother. ALL boys were listed as 'white', 'male', 'single', and 'at school', some could not read and/or write (usually children age 7 and younger. There is NO other information. ST.JOHN HOME FOR [DESTITUTE] BOYS - no street address given. Name.........age.......birthplace.....father, mother birthplace John CALVIN....10....NY,Ire,Ire Frank DOYLE.....10....NY,Ire,Ire Joseph HONE....10....NY,Ire,Ire James FITZGERALD....9....NY,Ire,Ire Michael CLARKIN....7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read/write) Joseph CLARKIN.....9....NY,Ire,Ire Patrick O'GANALY....7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read/write) George O'GANALY....5....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read/write) Joseph WILLIAMS....10....NY,Ire,Ire John ARMOUR....10....NY,Ire,Ire George WHITE.....9....NY,Ire,Ire William MACK....10....NY,Ire,Ire Francis GORMAN....7....NY,Ire,Ire John CLARK.....10....NY,Ire,Ire Joseph CLARK....7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read/write) John BECK.....10....NY,Ire,Ire Eugene BROWN....10....NY,Ire,Ire George BROWN....12....NY, Ire,Ire William BROWN....8....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) John DEAKIN....9....NY,Ire,Ire Michael MORAN....10....NY,Ire,Ire James FOLEY....10....NY,Ire,Ire Thomas DEAKIN....10....NY,Ire,Ire Christopher DILLON....7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read/write) Joseph WHALEN....10....NY,Ire,Ire James RIELY.....9.....NY,Ire,Ire Daniel RIELY....10....NY,Ire,Ire John RIELY.....12....NY,Ire,Ire William DAILY....13....NY,Ire,Ire John DAILY.....7.....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read/write) Frederick SCHUBERT....11.....NY, Ire,Ire Thomas BEAHAN....11....NY,Ire,Ire Thomas KEEN.....7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) Thomas MORAN....7...NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read/write) William KLINGER....11....NY,Ire,Ire Charles ALLEN.....7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) Francis DENTY.....10....NY,Ire,Ire John SLY.....10....NY,Ire,Ire Thomas SLY.....8....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) John DONOHUE....13....NY,Ire,Ire James BURNS.....11....NY, Ire,Ire Michael BURNS....9....NY,Ire,Ire John DUNNIGAN....12....NY,Ire,Ire Robert BURNS.....10....NY,Ire,Ire John GILDED?....10....NY,Ire,Ire James BRODERICK....10....NY,Ire,Ire John DONOHUE.....13....NY,Ire,Ire Charles MEANER?.....10....NY,Ire,Ire Francis CARROLL.....12....NY,Ire,Ire Conrad HARRIS?.....12....NY,Ire,Ire end of part 6 ....to be continued.... transcribed by Marilynn Wright

NARA film # T9-856: 1880 US Census, Kings Co. NY Ward 24, ED 241, pgs 490a-496b. Part 5 of 14 I will list each name, age, birthplace, and birthplace of father and mother. ALL boys were listed as 'white', 'male', 'single', and 'at school', some could not read and/or write (usually children age 7 and younger. There is NO other information. ST.JOHN HOME FOR [DESTITUTE] BOYS - no street address given. Name.........age.......birthplace.....father, mother birthplace William WINGHAM....11....NY,Ire,Ire Thomas SHIER.....6....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read/write) Dennis DOWNEY...10....NY,Ire,Ire Michael SLOAN.....12.....NY, Ire,Ire JOhn SLOAN....10....NY,Ire,Ire Victor RILLO....10....NY, Ire,Ire Thomas CARROLL....10....NY,Ire,Ire Michael BURKE.....10....NY,Ire,Ire Thomas BURKE.....13....NY,Ire,Ire Cornelius KEENAN....12....NY,Ire,Ire Charles BISHOP....13....NY,Ire,Ire James BISHOP....11....NY,Ire,Ire William McALOON....9....NY,Ire,Ire James McALOON.....7.....NY, Ire,Ire (cannot read/write) Joseph DOYLE.....7....NY, Ire,Ire (cannot read/write) John WILLIAMS....7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read/write) James DRISCOLL.....11....NY,Ire,Ire James COLIGAN....11.....NY,Ire,Ire Matthew HANLEY.....10....NY,Ire,Ire Peter PFFEIFER....8....NY, Ire,Ire (cannot write) Edward HADDOCK.....12.....NY, Ire,Ire Joseph MAHONEY.....11.....NY,Ire,Ire Joshua HART.....10....NY,Ire,Ire Joseph McVEIL....10....NY,Ire,Ire Joseph NESTOR....10....NY,Ire,Ire Bernard MURPHY....13....NY,Ire,Ire Michael BURKE....10....NY, Ire,Ire George MEAHAN....12....NY,Ire,Ire Hugh MAGUIRE....10....NY,Ire,Ire John MULLEN....10....NY,Ire,Ire John MEADE.....9....NY,Ire,Ire James MULLEN....11....NY, Ire,Ire Joseph NESTOR.....9....NY,Ire,Ire Edward NESTOR....10....NY,Ire,Ire James MORGAN....9.....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) Peter GALLAGHER....11.....NY,Ire,Ire Patrick GARDENER....13....NY,Ire,Ire Michael RYAN.....13....NY, Ire,Ire John RYAN.....11.....NY,Ire,Ire William LAWLER.....11....NY,Ire,Ire James GALLAGHER.....11....NY,Ire,Ire Edward DOHERTY.....11....NY,Ire,Ire James W.HOPE....10....NY,Ire,Ire Joseph FITZPATRICK....10....NY,Ire,Ire George U.? RICARDS....10...NY,Ire,Ire Robert RICARDS....7....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read/write) James CLYNE.....8.....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot write) Joseph CLYNE....6....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read/write) Patrick MURPHY.....6....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read/write) Peter ??????.....7.....NY,Ire,Ire (cannot read/write) [a big piece of Scotch Tape over the last name] end of part 5..... ......to be continued..... transcribed by Marilynn Wright

Oh, Bill, I do hope this is our family. I do not know which church they would have attended - at that time Catholics were pretty much held to the Parish they lived in? I know that Jerome's funeral was held in Old St. Patricks but I think that is because of its size and ability to handle a large crowd. Again, the names would be: Mother: Ellen Ryan Collins, Daniel Francis, Jerome Janus , and Bernard. Perhaps a Helen? Do let me know? Thanks you! L. D. Collins Bill's mail wrote: > I have a family who lived at 6 West 41st St, in the 459th Enumeration District. in NYC in 1880. Wife came from Cork. What Catholic Church would they have attended? > > Bill Chamberlain > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > Please don't flame anyone on the list. If you do, you will be unsubscribed. If you are flamed, please contact the list admin privately. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I have a family who lived at 6 West 41st St, in the 459th Enumeration District. in NYC in 1880. Wife came from Cork. What Catholic Church would they have attended? Bill Chamberlain

Would someone on the list have a NYC Directory that would show the address for the American Family Guardian Society & Home for the Friendless around 1880. My g grandmother Susan Keyes may have been a nurse there. - Thanks, Ray Ray Horton sunray@erie.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <IRED52@aol.com> To: <sunray@erie.net> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 3:57 PM Subject: Reply 1880 Manhatten, Susan Young > Dear Ray I found your Susan Young, she was a nurse age 23 at the American > Family Guardian Society & Home for the Friendless. There is no address > listed. Maybe someone with access to a directory could help. > Reference: 1880 Census T9_0880, Ed# 280,page 128C. > Ellenjane > >