Organizations  --  Clan na Gael  Part 1 No other political group in Irish-American history was as influential, famous and infamous as Clan na Gael.  It was Clan na Gael, or rather it's New York City head, John Devoy, that made Ireland's fight for independence an international cause.  In order to understand the group, it's important to understand it's most famous leader. John Devoy was born in Kill, County Kildare in 1842, but grew up in Dublin.  His family was fiercely nationalist, and John followed suit.  He received a beating from a schoolmaster at age 10 for refusing to sing "God Save the Queen."  He joined the Nationalist Petition movement in 1861, and traveled to France.  While there, he joined the French Foreign Legion and served in Algeria for a year.   Upon his return to Ireland, Devoy became a Fenian organizer in Kildare.  In 1865, he was appointed Chief Organiser of Fenians in the British Army.  He was arrested and tried for treason in November 1866 and sentenced to 15 years.  At Portland Prison, he organized strikes and was moved to Millbank Prison.  In 1871, he was released and exiled to America.  When Devoy arrived in the US, he received an Address of Welcome from the US House of Representatives. Devoy once said that he would never touch Irish politics again.  He took a job as a journalist at the New York Herald, and seemed to live up to his words.  However, Ireland was never far from his heart and the Irish-American population was looking for a leader.  Devoy fit the bill. It's unknown exactly when Clan na Gael was formed, but most agree that it was around 1871 in Philadelphia.  It's mission was "complete and absolute independence of Ireland from Great Britain, and the complete severance of all political connections between the two countries by unceasing preparation for armed insurrection in Ireland."  Membership was open to anyone who fervently believed in Irish independence. Devoy became the head of the New York City chapter, which would grow to be the largest in the US.  He pleaded with Americans to give the Irish "genuine democracy and authentic republicanism." The exploits of Clan na Gael are legendary in Irish-American history, due, in no small part, to Devoy.  They were the largest single financier of the Easter Rebellion and the ensuing War of Independence in Ireland.  Devoy contacted Germany during World War I, defying American neutrality, in order to secure arms for the Easter Rebellion.   Devoy published "Land of Erin" in 1882 and welcomed Padraig Pearse to his home in 1914.  He addressed Dail Eireann in 1919, and believed the 1921 Anglo-Irish Treaty to be a grave disappointment.  He founded and edited New York City's "Gaelic-American" newspaper from 1903-1928.  He was a regular political contributor to the "Irish-American" newspaper. In later years Devoy lost his hearing and his sight, but this didn't slow him down.  He thought that Eamonn De Valera was a dangerous amateur in politics, although he supported De Valera's fundraising attempts in the US.  However, their dislike of each other led to an intense rivalry between Clan na Gael and Sinn Fein. John Devoy, a confirmed bachelor, died in poverty in Atlantic City in 1928.  His remains were transported back to Ireland, where he was interred in Glasnevin Cemetery in Dublin.  The Irish 'cause' and its supporters, owe a great deal to this man and his vision of a free and united Ireland. Suggested Reading: John Devoy.  "Recollections of an Irish Rebel."  New York.  1929. T. Golway.  "Irish Rebel: A Biography of John Devoy."  March 1999. NEXT: The Catalpa Expedition

Can anyone tell me where to look for Quaker church records 1780 thru 1850 Dutchess Co. NY ? Lee GI MI lcady8@comcast.net

Might SKS do an obit lookup for me? In advance, I thank you for your assistance! James E. Hayden (possibly the Bronx) DOD: 12 SEP 1952 Clara Hayden (James' first wife) DOD: Before 1952 Lillian Hayden (James' second wife) DOD: After 1952 Elizabeth Hayden Reichert (Queens) DOD: Sep 1933 > Content-Type: text/plain > > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 221 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Re: [IRISH-NYC] NYC obits. - ANN M ["Elizabeth O. Polykandriotis" <EOP] > #2 [IRISH-NYC] Re; Gaffney [Sheila Block <macavoy@cox.net>] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-D, send a message to > > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > To contact the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-D list administrator, send mail to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-admin@rootsweb.com. > ______________________________> X-Message: #1 > Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 08:01:54 -0400 > From: "Elizabeth O. Polykandriotis" <EOPolykandriotis@duanemorris.com> > To: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com > Message-Id: <sd3675fd.024@mail.duanemorris.com> > Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] NYC obits. - ANN MURPHY > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Kathleen > - I must have missed your initial e-mail requesting the obituary. If you > still need the obituary please let me know and I will be happy to look it up for > you tomorrow. > > Please e-mail me so that I have your e-mail address. > > Thanks > Liz > > >>> "thetribe" <thetribe@catskill.net> 07/17/02 11:55AM >>> > Hi Try looking at www.findagrave.com and try www.interment.net ok TOM you > can also look at my site http://groups.msn.com/wonderinboutgenealogy I have > a lot of links at this site and all info is free!!! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "kathleen" <heanster@alltel.net> > To: <IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 12:54 PM > Subject: [IRISH-NYC] NYC obits. > > > > Good Morning, > > > > I am looking for obit. info on the following: > > Ann Murphy, age 65, died approx. June 22, 1912, buried June 26, 1912. > > Francis Kelly, age 1 yr., died approx. April 17, 1904, buried April 20, > 1904. > > > > I believe any obit would have been listed in the New York Daily News and > New York Daily Mirror. > > > > Ann Murphy is my ggrandmother and I just found out that she did come to > the USA from Ireland, my generation also thought she remained in Ireland. > > > > Any info. or hints would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Kathleen > > Blairsville, GA > > > > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > > Adopt a US County list > > http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/adoptable/ > > Adopt a Surname list > > http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/adoptable/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ______________________________ > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > THIS ELECTRONIC MAIL TRANSMISSION IS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL AND IS > INTENDED ONLY FOR THE REVIEW OF THE PARTY TO WHOM IT IS ADDRESSED. IF > YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS TRANSMISSION IN ERROR, PLEASE IMMEDIATELY RETURN > IT TO THE SENDER. UNINTENDED TRANSMISSION SHALL NOT CONSTITUTE WAIVER > OF THE ATTORNEY-CLIENT OR ANY OTHER PRIVILEGE. > ______________________________> X-Message: #2 > Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:11:18 -0700 > From: Sheila Block <macavoy@cox.net> > To: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <3D36F6B5.ABDB2C9B@cox.net> > Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Re; Gaffney > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I have a Gaffney family but they are in Brooklyn on Kosciusko Street during this > time period. > > Sheila

I am searching for information on the following family: Herbert Shannon Kirby B/July 20, 1885 D/Jan. 1971 last residence was Howard Beach Queens NY, and another listing for him said Jamaica Queens. I need a copy or e-mailed copy of his obituary. Library returned my request do to no day of death, that was over a year ago and I still can't find a day of death. I need this copy to further my search. Herbert Shannon Kirby was the son of Edward Morris Kirby b/1864 and Anna L. Schlemmer. Their other children were Eloise Kirby b/1887 m/Austin Terwilliger 1906 Eva Frances Kirby b/1889 m/1st Albert H. Cole 2ndm/George M Harris William Kirby b/1891 m/Mary C. Bella 1914 Hazel Kirby b/1893 m/William Frampton 2ndm/Frederick Martyn 1939 Raymond J. Kirby b/1895 m/Florence Feick 1918 Herbert Shannon Kirby first m/Viola Feehan in 1905 their children were Effie Kirby m/Joseph A. McEVILY in 1928 Hazel Kirby m/Harold Dugan in 1935 Any help appreciated Wanda

How in the world did you acquire these records? At 09:16 AM 07/19/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Denise... > >I have all the Baptismal and Marriage records for Sts. Mary and Peter's R. C. >Church in Arklow, Co. Wicklow, Ireland, dating from 1818 through about 1880. >Way too many to post, but I'd be happy to do look ups. >I'm leaving for Ireland on the 26th of July and won't return until Aug. >10th., but anytime after that, would be fine. > >Peggy Leonard/NYC

Hi Denise... I have all the Baptismal and Marriage records for Sts. Mary and Peter's R. C. Church in Arklow, Co. Wicklow, Ireland, dating from 1818 through about 1880. Way too many to post, but I'd be happy to do look ups. I'm leaving for Ireland on the 26th of July and won't return until Aug. 10th., but anytime after that, would be fine. Peggy Leonard/NYC

Gordon, By the time you receive this, I hope you had a wonderful time with your grchildren--the time is so precious for us all! Secondly, life is only so short--why not smell the roses? :) Shannah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: <IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 11:52 PM Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Post 1901 Census - A few days respite! Greetings All. For the past six days I have had the pleasure of having my son and two of my grand-daughters (aged 6 and 9) visiting me. On Friday morning I am taking them camping in my trailer for the weekend and on Monday morning they will start on their way home back to Calgary while I will return home. For the first time in the past five years I will not be taking my laptop computer with me and will be out of touch with the internet and my volumes of email. I will, however, be thinking about our efforts to regain public access to the Census records (in between swimming in the pool with my grand-daughters) and will try to catch up with my email on Monday. I am waiting for an article to appear in one of my own community newspapers and have just been contacted by another reporter for a paper in Enderby, BC. It is gratifying that some media people are starting to pay attention to our efforts. This is a result of our supporters contacting their local papers and reporters and writing letters to the media. Keep up the good work. With the help of you all, we will succeed. Thank you all for your support. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== Please don't flame anyone on the list. If you do, you will be unsubscribed. If you are flamed, please contact the list admin privately. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Melissa, Would you happen to know where I may be able to acquire info. in Eire--say, Cork and Kerry, please? Thank you so much. Shannah ----- Original Message ----- From: <Melissamcm@aol.com> To: <IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 4:45 AM Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Re: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-D Digest V02 #218 In response to the posting about obtaining information from the NYC police dept. on ancestors -- about six months ago I sent off a letter requesting information on my greatgrandfather (a policeman circa 1890-1911). Within a month I received a reply which included a copy of his pension record. I wrote to the following address: New York City Police Department Personnel Resource Unit 1 Police Plaza Room 1014A New York, NY 10018 ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== Adopt a US County list http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/adoptable/ Adopt a Surname list http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/adoptable/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Greetings All. For the past six days I have had the pleasure of having my son and two of my grand-daughters (aged 6 and 9) visiting me. On Friday morning I am taking them camping in my trailer for the weekend and on Monday morning they will start on their way home back to Calgary while I will return home. For the first time in the past five years I will not be taking my laptop computer with me and will be out of touch with the internet and my volumes of email. I will, however, be thinking about our efforts to regain public access to the Census records (in between swimming in the pool with my grand-daughters) and will try to catch up with my email on Monday. I am waiting for an article to appear in one of my own community newspapers and have just been contacted by another reporter for a paper in Enderby, BC. It is gratifying that some media people are starting to pay attention to our efforts. This is a result of our supporters contacting their local papers and reporters and writing letters to the media. Keep up the good work. With the help of you all, we will succeed. Thank you all for your support. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

I have a Gaffney family but they are in Brooklyn on Kosciusko Street during this time period. Sheila

Kathleen - I must have missed your initial e-mail requesting the obituary. If you still need the obituary please let me know and I will be happy to look it up for you tomorrow. Please e-mail me so that I have your e-mail address. Thanks Liz >>> "thetribe" <thetribe@catskill.net> 07/17/02 11:55AM >>> Hi Try looking at www.findagrave.com and try www.interment.net ok TOM you can also look at my site http://groups.msn.com/wonderinboutgenealogy I have a lot of links at this site and all info is free!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "kathleen" <heanster@alltel.net> To: <IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 12:54 PM Subject: [IRISH-NYC] NYC obits. > Good Morning, > > I am looking for obit. info on the following: > Ann Murphy, age 65, died approx. June 22, 1912, buried June 26, 1912. > Francis Kelly, age 1 yr., died approx. April 17, 1904, buried April 20, 1904. > > I believe any obit would have been listed in the New York Daily News and New York Daily Mirror. > > Ann Murphy is my ggrandmother and I just found out that she did come to the USA from Ireland, my generation also thought she remained in Ireland. > > Any info. or hints would be greatly appreciated. > > Kathleen > Blairsville, GA > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > Adopt a US County list > http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/adoptable/ > Adopt a Surname list > http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/adoptable/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ______________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE THIS ELECTRONIC MAIL TRANSMISSION IS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL AND IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE REVIEW OF THE PARTY TO WHOM IT IS ADDRESSED. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS TRANSMISSION IN ERROR, PLEASE IMMEDIATELY RETURN IT TO THE SENDER. UNINTENDED TRANSMISSION SHALL NOT CONSTITUTE WAIVER OF THE ATTORNEY-CLIENT OR ANY OTHER PRIVILEGE.

Dear Belinda, 324 West 25th Street, is in Manhattan. It is between 8th Ave and 9th Ave. Not familiar with the family name you mentioned. Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: Allie <allie55@earthlink.net> To: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com <IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 9:31 AM Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Gaffney >Is anyone on this lists familiar with a Gaffney family living at 324 W. >25th St., NYC? Year would have been between 1900-1912. Also, I'm not >familiar with NYC addresses. Would anyone know what area this address >is considered? Manhattan?, Bronx? Thank you so much for your help. >Belinda > > >==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== >List Administrators: >Tracy Cassidy GaelEire@aol.com >Jim McCarthy SPAGHETTICOWBOY@cs.com > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Forwarded from cpurcell1@cox.net Hi; I have no DOHENY info to share, but my uncle's name was William Wells CLOUGH. I know nothing about his family. He was married to my aunt, Mary Purcell, who was my father's sister. My father was Lewis Purcell. Just thought I should check in. Regards, Larry Purcell

Greetings All. FYI. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon A. Watts To: Letters@GlobeAndMail.ca Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 2:28 PM Subject: Re: Census allows a peek at our future. Editor, Globe and Mail. Margaret Wente's article, "Census allows a peek at our future" (G&M 17 July 2002) asks the question "How many grandchildren are you going to have?" While today's Census may allow a non-identifying peek at our statistical future, if Ivan P. Fellegi, Chief Statistician of Canada, has his way, millions of Canadians and others from around the world will never again be allowed to use Canada's Historic Census records to seek information about their ancestors. Nor will our grandchildren, and their children and grandchildren be able to use these invaluable records to find out about us. 235 years of Census records, from the first census of New France, up to and including those for the 1901 National Census of Canada, currently reside in the National Archives of Canada and are available for research by any person or body. The Privacy Act and Regulations attached thereto specifically permit the original schedules of Census to be made available 92 years after collection. Dr. Fellegi has refused to allow Post-1901 records to be transferred to the control of the National Archivist for eventual release to the public. In this refusal he is in contravention of the National Archives of Canada Act, the Access to Information Act, the Privacy Act and the Statistics Act. After five years and more than 50,000 signatures sent to the government, MPs and Senators, we have finally applied to the Federal Courts to seek a Writ of Mandamus that would force Statistics Canada to release the 1906 Census of the Western Provinces. They should have been available in 1998. We seek to regain the same public access to Census records after 1901 that we have had for those records up to then. We have gone through two governments, and three Ministers of Industry (responsible for Statistics Canada). A Report of an Expert Panel appointed in 1999 and a series of Town Hall meetings held this past December and January, all support allowing public access to Census records 92 years after collection. How much longer must we wait? And how many more surveys must be endured before Statistics Canada will finally allow the access to Historic Census records that we seek, and that at least three applicable statutes state that we are entitled to? For more information you are invited to view the Post-1901 Census Project website at: http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census or contact the writer at gordon_watts@telus.net Thank you. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 1455 Delia Drive Port Coquitlam, BC V3C 2V9 Tel (604) 942-6889 Fax (604) 942-6843 http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

Hi Try looking at www.findagrave.com and try www.interment.net ok TOM you can also look at my site http://groups.msn.com/wonderinboutgenealogy I have a lot of links at this site and all info is free!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "kathleen" <heanster@alltel.net> To: <IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 12:54 PM Subject: [IRISH-NYC] NYC obits. > Good Morning, > > I am looking for obit. info on the following: > Ann Murphy, age 65, died approx. June 22, 1912, buried June 26, 1912. > Francis Kelly, age 1 yr., died approx. April 17, 1904, buried April 20, 1904. > > I believe any obit would have been listed in the New York Daily News and New York Daily Mirror. > > Ann Murphy is my ggrandmother and I just found out that she did come to the USA from Ireland, my generation also thought she remained in Ireland. > > Any info. or hints would be greatly appreciated. > > Kathleen > Blairsville, GA > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > Adopt a US County list > http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/adoptable/ > Adopt a Surname list > http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/adoptable/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Is anyone on this lists familiar with a Gaffney family living at 324 W. 25th St., NYC? Year would have been between 1900-1912. Also, I'm not familiar with NYC addresses. Would anyone know what area this address is considered? Manhattan?, Bronx? Thank you so much for your help. Belinda

I just had a great thought. If anyone has items that you have ordered that are not the people you are looking for, and you can find no one to claim them, they would be great to be placed in a column in The Irish Everywhere Newsletter. You can either keep them in your possession and list them with me and they'll go into the newsletter. Then someone who recognizes the information could claim them from you, so your contact would be included in the newsletter..... or we can put in a blind ad without your email address and I can put you in touch with them. Let me know your thoughts. For those of you who did not receive The Irish Everywhere Newsletter, I have received some wonderful feedback from subscribers. I'm very pleased with the first issue and thrilled to hear the nice things that subscribers have told me. Notes from subscribers will be included in the next issue under Letters to the Editor. Denise Wells List-Owner, IRL-Cavan-L Editor, The Irish Everywhere Newsletter - subscribe at the County Cavan website... http://www.irelandgenweb.com/~cavan/cavan.html

I am trying to trace my DOHENY relatives in the USA. The particular line I am searching came from County Tipperary. My GGrandparents were Thomas DOHENY & Mary Ann DALY. They married in Killenaule, Co. Tipperary 4 March 1867. As far as I am aware, they had 7 children, the children being: Mary baptised 5 April 1868 Honora " 31 Oct 1869 Michael " 22 Dec 1872 William " 8 Oct 1874 Elizabeth " 24 April 1877 Patrick " 16 May 1880 Margaret born 12 July 1883. Margaret was my grandmother. She left Ireland and came to england where she met and married Arthur CLOUGH. Mary went to America and lived in the Bronx. Two of the boys (Michael & Patrick) also went to America, quite possibly they went to join Mary but am not sure about that. Does any of this sound familiar to anyone? Would love to hear from someone working the same line. E. Lord

If anyone out there comes across any addresses that do have information on NYC Police and Fireman, please put it on the list. I have several members of both of these fine organizations in the early 20th century and have been unsuccessful in finding any information on any of them, even the dates of hire and retire much less any biographical info. Thank you Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: <IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 5:04 AM Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-D Digest V02 #218

In response to the posting about obtaining information from the NYC police dept. on ancestors -- about six months ago I sent off a letter requesting information on my greatgrandfather (a policeman circa 1890-1911). Within a month I received a reply which included a copy of his pension record.  I wrote to the following address: New York City Police Department Personnel Resource Unit 1 Police Plaza Room 1014A New York, NY 10018