How far back do your records go. I'm not familiar enough with history to know about St. John's Church/. My ancestors lived in NYC circa 1865-1885. Names are Collins: Daniel Francis, Jerome J., Bernard A. Many thanks for bothering you with this. Sincerely, L. D. Collins Robert Fitzsimmons wrote: > Don > > Must have missed the initial e-mails about St John the Evangelist R.C. > church in Manhattan so do not know what the discussion has been . > > My parents met through St John's Club and I have a program from their > Hits and Bits presentation of 1923. It does not say the address of the > church, nor does it say the " Evangelist" but the show was > at Palm Garden on 58th Street. There are lots of pictures of groups of > members, many labeled well. One of Mom's group lists her name but I > cannot pick her out in the line up > > I would be willing to try to find a member for you if that would be > helpful > > slainte > sheila > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > Please don't flame anyone on the list. If you do, you will be unsubscribed. If you are flamed, please contact the list admin privately. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi, this will show how vague an answer can be but I think Parnell was some sort of Irish political hero it would depend on your Parnell's dob it the parents named him after the hero or if it was a family name. I have seen the name Kenney in Galway/Roscommon area could be other places also. ( There may or may not be Kennys in my family they were from the Creagh area of Galway.(I have two set of family records one the mother is an O'Neil the other the mother is a Kenny. Family trad had O'Neil but the children of Kenny match the known siblings of our family. No wonder I am confused). Best wishes,Ann

Don Must have missed the initial e-mails about St John the Evangelist R.C. church in Manhattan so do not know what the discussion has been . My parents met through St John's Club and I have a program from their Hits and Bits presentation of 1923. It does not say the address of the church, nor does it say the " Evangelist" but the show was at Palm Garden on 58th Street. There are lots of pictures of groups of members, many labeled well. One of Mom's group lists her name but I cannot pick her out in the line up I would be willing to try to find a member for you if that would be helpful slainte sheila

I am looking for Walter Parnell Kenney. His parents were Peter King Kenney (Born in Ireland or at Sea) and Jane Middleton (Born in New York) I am assuming that PARNELL is a family name somewhere along the line. Thanks Sherry ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Greetings All. For your information, the following URL has more information on the status of the 1901 Census website for Britain and Wales. Happy Hunting. http://www.vnunet.com/News/1134375 Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

Your Edward Hayden may have lived at that address in 1883, but that doesn't mean he was there in 1880. As for the 1883 directory, information for that year was collected in 1881/1882. Let's assume that the 1883 directory was distributed in February 1883. It may very well have been printed in August of 1882 - with a deadline on information to have been compiled several months earlier of that year. That collection of information may even have started in December of 1881. Mario

How does one unsubscribe, please? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Horton" <sunray@erie.net> To: <IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 11:59 PM Subject: [IRISH-NYC] City Directory - post 1880 - William Young > Hello listers, > > I'd like to find my gg grandfather, William Young in NYC some year(s) after the 1880 census. He, his wife and all 10 children were in the 1880 cen. at 438 Third Ave., NYC. He died in Bainbridge NY in 1906. I'm trying to get an idea of when he left NYC for upstate. A listing in city directory would help. He was a baker by trade, which might help pinpoint him in a directory, since I'm sure there will be quite a few William Young listings (I have his listing in the 1867 City Directory). Thanks in advance. > > Ray Horton > sunray@erie.net > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > Please visit the list website: > http://www.irishinnyc.freeservers.com > It is a work in progress. Thank you for your patience! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I am hoping that SKS might have access to the NYC Directory for 1883 and could look up the name "HAYDEN, Edward and/or Mary." An 1883 obituary for Edward HAYDEN includes a reference to "627 W. 52nd Street NYC." According to a list member, the 1880 Census for ED 509 (page 563D and 564A) shows that 16 families lived in this building, but no Hayden was listed. I hope to determine if (a) the HAYDEN's moved to this address and were living there in 1883 or (b) if this might be the address at which the accident occurred. ** TIA **

Hello listers, I'd like to find my gg grandfather, William Young in NYC some year(s) after the 1880 census. He, his wife and all 10 children were in the 1880 cen. at 438 Third Ave., NYC. He died in Bainbridge NY in 1906. I'm trying to get an idea of when he left NYC for upstate. A listing in city directory would help. He was a baker by trade, which might help pinpoint him in a directory, since I'm sure there will be quite a few William Young listings (I have his listing in the 1867 City Directory). Thanks in advance. Ray Horton sunray@erie.net

At 01:04 AM 8/20/2002 +0000, deb-reichert@attbi.com wrote: >I am hoping that SKS might have access to the NYC >Directory for 1883 and could look up the name "HAYDEN, >Edward and/or Mary." > >An 1883 obituary for Edward HAYDEN includes a reference >to "627 W. 52nd Street NYC." According to a list >member, the 1880 Census for ED 509 (page 563D and 564A) >shows that 16 families lived in this building, but no >Hayden was listed. > >I hope to determine if (a) the HAYDEN's moved to this >address and were living there in 1883 or (b) if this >might be the address at which the accident occurred. Sorry, don't have the directory, but only a suggestion that you also check a little before and after that date. From what I understand, to compile those directories, people were paid to go door to door and record the info. Then, it was all compiled and went to press .... since this is before computers, etc., by the time the directory was published, the info contained in it could be close to a year old. If you're looking for 1883 info ... it could easily be in the 1884 directory. I tried to pin down the year a ggrandfather died, he was listed, as it turns out in the year he did die. The following year, it gave a listing for his wife, as his widow. It was easy, since they owned the house and didn't move ... just had to check the names. If your couple moved around a lot, they may even come up missing in the 1883 directory. That happened more than once to me, that's why I suggest you check more than the exact year you're interested in.

Greetings All. I forward the following message for your interest. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "FRC Newsletter" <FRC-Newsletter@pro.gov.uk> To: "1901" <FRC-Newsletter@pro.gov.uk> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 2:19 AM Subject: 1901 Census Dear Mailing List Subscriber 1901 CENSUS ONLINE The latest position as of 15 August is detailed on the attached page from the PRO's website: http://www.pro.gov.uk/about/access/statement.htm Yours sincerely Margaret Brennand 1901 Census Project Communications Manager -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Margaret Brennand 1901 Census Project Communications Manager tel: 020 8392 5378; fax: 020 8392 5319 email: margaret.brennand@pro.gov.uk PRO web site: www.pro.gov.uk This e-mail message (and attachments) may contain information that is confidential to The Public Record Office. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, distribute or copy the message or attachments. In such a case, please notify the sender by return e-mail immediately and erase all copies of the message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of the Public Record Office are neither given nor endorsed by it.

I am looking for JANE MIDDLETON that was born in New York. She married PETER KING KENNEY. They lived here in St. Louis, Missouri and their children were all born there. One of the children was named WALTER PARNELL KENNEY. Walter was born January 1882 and died February 1941. I am assuming that PARNELL is also a surname somewhere along the line. He married JENNY SANDERS Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Sherry Corder

http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcas/html/greenbook.html The above url is a publication with all depts. of NYC. It might help someone.

I know as the granddaughter of a widow at a very early age and daughter of a widow at 34 left with two living children and one on the way, we were not allowed to pity ourselves as there just was no time. If you were sick, go to bed--no whining or else get doing what you had to do. ----- Original Message ----- From: <LLBART@aol.com> To: <IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 12:10 PM Subject: [IRISH-NYC] "The Banished Children of Eve" > Just finished this book. I also have read "Gotham" and have watched anything > and everthing on TV about the New York Irish. I have one ancestor who joined > up during the draft riots. Plus all my ancestors are from the lower East side > of Manhattan and originally from Ireland.All were there in the 1860's. I am > left wondering how did they manage to survive? Between the most incredible > poverty, disease and violence of the time, it amazes me that I'm here to ask > that question. I never heard stories from my parents or grandparents that > might have been passed down about the hardships of those days.I have to guess > that they just dealt with the struggles of their everyday lives and did the > best they could without complaints. They are all Heroes to me. > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > List Administrators: > Tracy Cassidy GaelEire@aol.com > Jim McCarthy SPAGHETTICOWBOY@cs.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Just finished this book. I also have read "Gotham" and have watched anything and everthing on TV about the New York Irish. I have one ancestor who joined up during the draft riots. Plus all my ancestors are from the lower East side of Manhattan and originally from Ireland.All were there in the 1860's. I am left wondering how did they manage to survive? Between the most incredible poverty, disease and violence of the time, it amazes me that I'm here to ask that question. I never heard stories from my parents or grandparents that might have been passed down about the hardships of those days.I have to guess that they just dealt with the struggles of their everyday lives and did the best they could without complaints. They are all Heroes to me.

What ESB records exist online are at: http://www.genexchange.org/esb/index.cfm But, keep in mind that it contains (at this time) only a small fraction of accounts that exist. The original index should be consulted and a thorough search conducted. Best regards. Nancy. Nancy Coleman NLColeman@worldnet.att.net Professional NYC & LI Research Services www.GenealogyPro.com/ncoleman.html ncroots@worldnet.att.net Coordinator, Nassau County GenExchange http://www.genexchange.org/county.cfm?state=ny&county=nassau List Administrator, LI-Rooters http://www.genexchange.org/MailListForm.cfm?cat=NY ----- Original Message ----- From: <GaelEire@aol.com> To: <IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 7:26 PM Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Re: NYC ESB account for BYRNE Forwarded from marybob.mcd@worldnet.att.net Hi is there an online account I can look up my John and Jane McDonald with ESB accounts ? Hopeful Bob McDonald ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== Mark your calendar for the 11th annual Genealogy and Technology (GENTECH) conference - Digital Technology...The Ancestral Frontier - in Phoenix, Arizona on January 17-18, 2003. For the latest information, please visit the website regularly: http://www.gentech.org ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Forwarded from Budarz@aol.com : September 11, 2002 is soon approaching. On that day, please wear red, white and blue to work or school to show your support for those who lost their lives on 9~11~01 and to honor the heroes who worked to save them and the families left behind. At noon your time on September 11, 2002, no matter where you are or what you are doing, stop, put your hand on your heart, and say the Pledge of Allegiance out loud or to yourself and say a prayer for our nation. If all of us do this together in every time zone around the world, we will have a powerful chain of thoughts surrounding us. Please keep this going to your friends and family. By September 11, 2002 hopefully enough people will have read this and will join together in unity. God Bless the U.S.A.

St. Paul's is in ward 12. I show that St. Paul's address is 113 E. 117 st. and was founded in 1834. Don --- Genie Coats <coatsgenie@hotmail.com> wrote: > I'm looking for the ward that St. Paul's was on > E.111th St. at the same time? If you find yours, > give me a guess about mine, please. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andrew & Susan Young > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 7:38 PM > To: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Recommend a Book on the 4th > Ward-St. Mary's on Grand > > Hi; > > My G-grandparents' were married at St. Mary's in > 1890 and my grandmother was > baptised there. 1891. Unfortunately, the marriage & > birth were never > recorded with the city. Would anyone > know what the Ward was for St. Mary's Parish in > 1890-91; as I am trying to > use the 1890 Police Census. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > > regards, > > > susan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <LLBART@aol.com> > To: <IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 2:54 AM > Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Recommend a Book on the 4th > Ward > > > > St.Mary's is in the 7th ward.My family were from > that area and they > belonged > > to St.Mary's.I grew up there.Some family are still > there. > > > Gloria > > > > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > > List Administrators: > > Tracy Cassidy GaelEire@aol.com > > Jim McCarthy SPAGHETTICOWBOY@cs.com > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > List Administrators: > Tracy Cassidy GaelEire@aol.com > Jim McCarthy SPAGHETTICOWBOY@cs.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237Get > more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : > http://explorer.msn.com > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > Please don't flame anyone on the list. If you do, > you will be unsubscribed. If you are flamed, please > contact the list admin privately. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com

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I'm looking for the ward that St. Paul's was on E.111th St. at the same time? If you find yours, give me a guess about mine, please. ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew & Susan Young Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 7:38 PM To: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Recommend a Book on the 4th Ward-St. Mary's on Grand Hi; My G-grandparents' were married at St. Mary's in 1890 and my grandmother was baptised there. 1891. Unfortunately, the marriage & birth were never recorded with the city. Would anyone know what the Ward was for St. Mary's Parish in 1890-91; as I am trying to use the 1890 Police Census. Any help would be greatly appreciated. regards, susan ----- Original Message ----- From: <LLBART@aol.com> To: <IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 2:54 AM Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Recommend a Book on the 4th Ward > St.Mary's is in the 7th ward.My family were from that area and they belonged > to St.Mary's.I grew up there.Some family are still there. > Gloria > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > List Administrators: > Tracy Cassidy GaelEire@aol.com > Jim McCarthy SPAGHETTICOWBOY@cs.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== List Administrators: Tracy Cassidy GaelEire@aol.com Jim McCarthy SPAGHETTICOWBOY@cs.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com