----- Original Message ----- From: "gerry cady" > >Subject: Potatos > > > > > > > > > >This has potential..... > > > >An old man lived alone in Ireland. He wanted to spade his potato garden, > >but > >it was very hard work. His only son, who would have helped him, was in Long > >Kesh Prison. The old man wrote a letter to his son and mentioned his > >predicament. Shortly after sending the letter, the father received this > >reply, "For HEAVEN'S SAKE Dad, don't dig up that garden. That's where I > >buried the GUNS!" > > > >At 4 A.M. the next morning, a dozen British soldiers showed up with shovels > >and dug up the entire garden. They found no munitions. Confused, the old > >man > >wrote another note to his son telling him what happened. > > > >His son's reply was: "Best I could do from here. Now plant your potatoes." > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com >

I live in a small town in Virginia. This evening we are having a Memorial ceremony on the Town Green, with flag ceremonies, a color guard, band and singing. I will wear my NYPD cap with several small pins of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on it. I'll be there to pay tribute to all who died on September 11th. and write an inscription on the flag that will say "We Will Never Forget." I will especially remember those 12 alumni of my alma mater, Mount Saint Mary's College in Emmitsburg, MD who lost their lives in the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. God Bless One and All, Larry Purcell

Larry, I appreciate your email in response to my question about Marriage License's. I can't tell you how often in the day that I pray or yell at my ancestors who have passed away to help me! I have managed to find an amazing amount in the past year, on my father's side of the family, the Irish side, thanks to the Internet! But, had they found the information the first time I sent it, about 7 years ago, I would (hopefully) be further, maybe even know where in Ireland we came from. I have also learned that it is much better to call people after lunch! They are so much more apt to help then. As far as my Irish Blessing, I wish I can remember where I got it. I know I saw it online somewhere, but it touched my heart, and thought it would do the same for others. I am glad you are using it also. Thanks again, and good luck searching! Marge Duffy Virgulak Jesus, A Never Ending Friend De nobis fabula narratur, their story is our story. Beannachtai agus Siochain "Cuimhnig'ar 'Ar Sinnsir" - Remember Our Ancestors An Irish Blessing May God grant you always A sunbeam to warm you A moonbeam to charm you A sheltering angel So nothing can harm you Laughter to cheer you Faithful friends near you And whenever you pray Heaven to hear you.

PRESENT DIPLOMAS AT CHURCH SERVICE ------------------- Graduates of Three Years Attend Mass at Church of Our Lady of Good Counsel. ------------------------- CEREMONY UNPRECEDENTED ----------------------------------- Addresses by Father Prendergast and Vicar-General McNamara. --------------------------------------- Perhaps for the first time in the history of the Catholic diocese, diplomas were awarded on a Sunday to graduates of a parochial school yesterday at a religious service in a Catholic church. The ceremony was a most solemn and impressive one. In the Church of Our Lady of Good Counsel on Putnam Avenue, Graduates were: Girls: January, 1906--Miriam C. L. WILLIAMS, Mary R. MAURER, Sabina QUINN, Margaret V. DRISCOLL, Genevieve F. MAHONEY, Lydia V. FITZSIMMONS, Helen R. REGAN, Mary T. COLLINS, Margaret M. RYAN, Margaret V. MAGILL. In the June Class of 1906: Margaret M. RYAN, Margaret V. MAGILL, Estelle M. DIPPOL, Elizabeth T. DONOVAN, Genevieve M. CONWAY, Ethel M. WILLIAMS, Ella L. MANNIN G, Margaret V. LANGAN, Mary K. FORD, Mary C. HUNT, Rose M. TIERNAN, Mary E. CONVEY, Mary F. MULLOY, Anna M. THIL, Mary E. ENNIS. Girls: Class of January 1907--Grace M. CALLAHAN, Mary E. LUCA, Mary E. TOOLE, Mary A. JEWHER, Edna V. CONNOLLY, Mary E. DUNLEAVY, Josephine R. MARLEY, Elizabeth G. MCGILL, Ivy M. WHITNEY, Marguerite F. MCGEARY, Gertrude R. DUNNE, Pauline M. HOWLEY, Elizabeth B. BRENNAN, Helen M. CALLAHAN, Mildred R. VINESS, Frances S. FITZSIMMONS. Boys 1905--Theodore MCCRANE, Leo A. MULLEN, Michael MURPHY, Thomas TIERNEY, Alfred W. WOOLLS, Colin A. MACKAY, Leo A. MCGINITY, Joseph A. CORBETT, Joseph A. MEEHAN, Paul A. DIPPOLD, WILLIAM F. A. CONWAY, Henry MITCHELL, Robert MITCHELL, Dennis SULLIVAN, Francis A. SULLIVAN, Eugene F. WALSH, Francis J. WOLF. Boys, 1906--James LOGUE, James C. MURPHY, John MCMAHON, Francis I. O'BRIEN, Francis J. COSTELLO, John G. FLANAGAN, Francis L. WILLIAMS, Davis V. ALLEN, James A. CASSIDY, Walter B. FAUSTMANN, Albert W. MCNAMARA, Joseph C. RYAN, Andrew J. MEEHAN, Edward G. WATERS. Boys, 1907--William J. KELLY, Thomas SMITH, Josehp P. J. RYAN, Charles J. HESS, James F. BYRNE, George JUNGERMANN, James A. TYRELL, Joseph KILLIAN, Charles E CALLAHAN, Robert B. KNIFF, Francis DORNEY, Charles F. BURKE, Nicholas COLLINS, Francis A. BORGES, Patrick SCULLY, James T. TUNNEY, Joseph T. ANSBRO, Rose O'BRIEN, James E. MCENERNEY, John A. DUFFY, Thomas F. FITZSIMMONS. Transcribed by John DVORAK Michigan

I am going to go to work today in red, white, and blue. My company is having a moment of reflection and then will play the National Anthem over our public address system. We insure military families, so this will be at 9:45 a.m., the approximate time the Pentagon was hit. My prayers, as they have been all along, will be for all affected, then for my country and for those who continue to serve, both public (police and fire) and military. Tonight I will light candles for Renee May, the head flight attendant on Flight 77 and whose fiancé was a family friend; For Lt. Col. Otis Vincent Tolbert and his family - he perished in the Pentagon and his wife was a coworker in Tampa before they moved to northern Virginia for his tour of duty there; for everyone else - and I can't help but think because my Irish ancestors lived in NY and Staten Island, that I lost yet-to-be-known cousins in the attack on the WTC. I will pray for my country, and for peace. I am not going to watch much TV, except for the 'normal' nightly news when I get home from work. Kathleen Kathleen in Ridge Manor, Florida...Genealogy - It's Relative!! katbowen@earthlink.net (Back-up: kbowen@hotmail.com) http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/o/w/Kathleen-E-Bowen http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=katbowen ----- Original Message ----- From: <GaelEire@aol.com> To: <IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:38 PM Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Sept. 11 & the List > Starting tonight, the list will be open for anyone wishing to discuss the > tragic events of September 11. It has been a difficult year, and many of us > are still grieving. Please feel free to send in prayers and poetry; > rememberances and tributes. If you need to seek comfort tomorrow, remember > that you can come to us here on the list. > > You are all in my heart and thoughts. > Take care, > Tracy > > > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > Do you miss receiving MISSING LINKS and SOMEBODY'S LINKS? If so, > just subscribe to: > http://www.petuniapress.com/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Starting tonight, the list will be open for anyone wishing to discuss the tragic events of September 11. It has been a difficult year, and many of us are still grieving. Please feel free to send in prayers and poetry; rememberances and tributes. If you need to seek comfort tomorrow, remember that you can come to us here on the list. You are all in my heart and thoughts. Take care, Tracy

>From County Fermanagh's "The Impartial Reporter" http://www.impartialreporter.com/index.html http://www.impartialreporter.com/archive/2002-09- 05/news/story4245.html Pottery marks September 11 with special edition plate A specially commissioned Belleek plate is helping raise money for the victims of the Twin Towers disaster in New York on September 11. Belleek Pottery was invited to design the piece, which features a painting of the Twin Towers set against the Manhattan skyline and bordered by the Irish and American flags, by the Irish American Disaster Relief Fund (IADRF) . Commenting on the piece, Mr. John Maguire, Managing Director of Belleek Pottery Ltd said: "Everyone at Belleek Pottery was deeply saddened by the tragic events of September 11 and we were honoured when the IARDF approached us to help them with their fundraising efforts for the victims of the terrorist attacks. The Irish American Disaster Relief Fund embodies the determination and spirit of the Irish American people and we feel privileged to be associated with the Fund by designing this plate on their behalf". IADRF Chairman Ray Burns said of the Belleek donation: "We feel this plate provides a fitting way to commemorate the victims of the September 11 tragedy and at the same time raise much needed funds for the survivors and their families. I have no doubt that the Twin Towers Plate will be cherished by everyone who acquires one". The plate is on sale via the IARDF internet website: www.IrishAmericanFund.org and from the Belleek Pottery Visitor Centre. $50 from the sale of each plate will be donated directly to the IARDF fund.

IRISH-AMERICAN-OBITUARIES-L-request@rootsweb.com <A HREF="http://www.irishinnyc.freeservers.com/">Home</A> Hi everyone, I'm currently transcribing the 1857 editions of the old New York City newspaper, "Irish-American." The paper printed a few obituaries and news of deaths around the city for the Irish population. I have the March-August 1857 transcriptions uploaded to my website, if you'd like to take a look: http://www.irishinnyc.freeservers.com You can search the entire site by surname off two search engines located on the Home page. If you'd like to go straight to the obits, you'll find them on the Deaths in New York City page. News of deaths occurring around the city appear under News in New York City. I hope this helps someone! Take care, Tracy

I also have been looking for a fireman. I logged onto FDNY which I found very informative but then realised I was looking in the wrong area so I tried the New Jersey Fire Dept and amazingly, have recieved information on a name i am looking for and am now waiting for more info from same source. Good luck in your search. ----- Original Message ----- From: "edward carvallo" <ecandeb@hotmail.com> To: <IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Re: [Bklyn] BSU 23 June 1928 > Dear Marilynn or List members, > Is there any way to find out more information on one Fireman. I think he may > be a cousin from Ireland. Can I look at a list of Fireman anywhere? Thanks > in advance. ellen > > > >>The Awards > > > >>John J. BANNON, Hook and Ladder Co. 35. > > >transcribed by Marilynn Wright > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > Do you miss receiving MISSING LINKS and SOMEBODY'S LINKS? If so, > just subscribe to: > http://www.petuniapress.com/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Please send all responses to JEdler@aol.com , NOT to the list. I am Looking for a Timothy and Delia Sullivan.  They lived in New York City back in the 1900's.  Believe they lived in the Hell's kitchen section back then.  They had a daughter Mary Sullivan who was Baptized St Michael's.  Her date of Birth March of 1910. Thanks Jeanette JEdler@aol.com

================= SARAH O'BYRNE Requiem mass will be celebrated at 9:30 A.M. to-morrow at the R.C. Church of St. Teresa, for Sarah O'BYRNE, who died Friday. She was born in County Donegal, Ireland, and had been a resident of Brooklyn for forty years. She is survived by a sister, Mrs. Catherine HUNTINGTON, and two brothers, Joseph and John O'BYRNE, living in Ireland. The funeral will be held from the funeral chapel of W.A. MARTIN, 764 Washington avenue. Interment will be a Holy Cross Cemetery. transcribed by Marilynn Wright

DEATHS FIREMAN HERO AT 'LAST CALL' Lieut. C. A. WELLINGHAUSEN - Pneumonia Victim. CITED FOR BRAVERY - Was Popular With Men in Department. Lieut.: Charles A. WELLINGHAUSEN, of Hook and Ladder 107, New York Fire Department, died yesterday after a brief illness of pneumonia at his home, 7863 Eighty-Fifth Street, Glendale. Lieut. WELLINGHAUSEN was born in Brooklyn, a son of the late Ferdinand and Louise ALLISON WELLINGHAUSEN. During his service with the Fire Department he received several citations for heroic acts and was popular among the officers and men of the department. He was a member of the Holy Name Society of the Fire Department of the borough of Brooklyn and Queens, the Lieutenant's Benevolent Association and the Mutual Clerks of the New York Fire Patrol. Lieut. WELLINGHAUSEN is survived by his widow, Katherine E. NULTY WELLINGHAUSEN; two sisters, Mrs. Charles WATERS, and Mrs. Charles ODELL, and two brothers Ferdinand and Christian WELLINGHAUSEN. The funeral will be held at 10 a.m. to-morrow with a requiem mass at the R. C. Church of St. Pancras, Glendale, by the Rev. F. ?. SEIGELASK. Interment under direction of William DUNIGAN and Son, Rogers avenue and Montgomery street, will be at Holy Cross Cemetery.

Dear Marilynn or List members, Is there any way to find out more information on one Fireman. I think he may be a cousin from Ireland. Can I look at a list of Fireman anywhere? Thanks in advance. ellen >>The Awards > >>John J. BANNON, Hook and Ladder Co. 35. >transcribed by Marilynn Wright _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

ST. SAVIOUR'S H.S. GIVES 24 DIPLOMAS The commencement exercises of St. Saviour's High School were held last night in the school auditorium on Sixth street near Eighth avenue. Miss Marie G. CARROLL, A.B., an alumnus [sic] of St. Saviour's, delivered the address for the graduates. The graduates are: Mary E. BLAKE Gertrude G. BRENNAN Edna M. DUNN Margaret M. FARRELL Helen M. GRIFFIN M. Florence HALLOWELL Geraldine P. HEH [?] Margaret M. KELLY Martha D. KOZIARSKI Ursula K. LANCASTER Madeline B. LINEEN Miriam C. LOUGHLIN Anna P. McKEE Elinore C. McKEON Mary R. McKEON Josephine A. McKEON Catherine E. MOONEY Rose R. MUGAVERO Irene V. MULRANEY Agnes R. RODGERS Jeannette M. STEPHENS Concetta V. ZITO =============== transcribed by Marilynn Wright

BRAVERY MEDALS GIVEN AS DEPARTMENT TRIBUTE "Who can say -'the bravest'! When all are brave." The Awards The awards for Fire Department medals for acts performed in 1927 were: James Gordon BENNETT Medal and Department Medal - Capt. James A. WALSH, No. 1, Engine 234. Hugh BONNER Medal and Department medal - Fireman, first grade, Francis T.DAVIS, Hook and Ladder Co. 35 Emily TREVOR-Mary B.WARREN Medal and Department Medal - Fireman, first grade, Gustave R. MERKER, Engine Co. 234. The Henri W. VAN HEUKELOM Medal and Department Medal - Fire, second grade, James CONMY, Hook and Ladder Co. 16. Brooklyn Citizens' Medal and Department Medal - Fireman, first grade, August V. BECK, Engine Co. 238. Thomas E. CRIMMINS Memorial Medal and Department Medal - Fireman, first grade, James J. SULLIVAN, Hook and Ladder Co. 1. Henry D. BROOKMAN Medal and Department Medal - Fireman, first grade, John J. BANNON, Hook and Ladder Co. 35. John H. PRENTICE Medal and Department Medal - Fireman, fourth grade, Edward J. KENNEDY, No. 2, Engine Co. 44. Walter SCOTT Medal and Department Medal - Fireman, second grade, Peter A. DALY, Engine Co. 44. Department Medal - Fireman, fourth grade, John G. FLYNN, Engine Co. 13. Department Medal - Fireman, first grade, Walter J. HILLIS, Hook and Ladder Co. 1. Department Medal - Lieut. Edward J. WALSH, Hook and Ladder Co. 10. Department Medal - Capt. David M. LYNCH, Hook and Ladder Co. 1 (deceased). STEPHENSON Medal - Capt. Walter L. LAMB, Rescue Co. 1 Administration Medal - Assistant Chief of Department Patrick WALSH, No. 1. For College Efficiency The Fire College medals for the year 1927 are awarded to the officer and men of Engine Co. 251, located at Wallabout Market, for efficiency in drill and evolution in the fire company school. The officers and members of Engine Company 251 are as follows: Captain, Robert BOWE Lieutenant, Rupert F. REED Firemen, first grade- William P. BRESLIN Florence E. CROWLEY Peter F. DENIER William F. KAFLINE Harry KREBS William A LUTKINS Frederick E. McGOVERN Joseph F. SAROSY Thomas J. LOUGHLIN Joseph L. MURPHY Stephen J. PHILLIPS John GIBBONS Fireman, second grade: Herman BURGER transcribed by Marilynn Wright ==== NYBROOKLYN Mailing List ==== The Brooklyn Information Page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~blkyn/Bklyn.Info.Page.html

Country of Arrival Records - Vital Records Twentieth-century vital records are much more detailed than their ninteenth-century counterparts, especially marriage and death certificates. Death certificates may simply ask for the country of birth, but can give clues to an ancestor's immigration by stating the number of years the person resided, not only in the city, but in the country. While marriage certificates may simply state country of birth, the marriage license may be more detailed. It may have asked for the county or even the town where the prospective bride and/or groom resided. Don't be too surprised to find that on Great-aunt Bridget's marriage license, she wrote in 'Down, Ireland' under country of birth! A marriage license also asks for the date of birth. What better person to get the information from, then Great-aunt Bridget herself! Hopefully, she didn't fudge her age to appear younger. Death certificates, on the other hand, are notoriously inaccurate. The information is taken at the worst possible time. The family is grief-stricken. Dates of birth are off, parents' names are wrong, etc. The information is best used as a guideline, rather than as an absolute. There are two types of birth certificates that you will encounter for those born in the latter 19th century. The regular ones, issued at the time of birth. And 'delayed registration' birth certificates. Delayed registration birth certificates were issued years after the birth occurred. This was due to the Social Security Act of 1936. Everyone was required to register. In order to register, a person had to provide a birth certificate. So the city would issue a birth certificate to an adult. This *doesn't* affect how the birth certificates are filed. They are still filed chronologically by certificate number for each year of birth. It's just an interesting tidbit to know that Uncle Paddy got his birth certificate at 42. The LDS has an impressive collection of indexes for birth, marriage and death certificates for New York City and the boroughs.

Country of Arrival Records - Probate Records Many researchers dismiss probate records as a means of information, citing the poverty of their ancestors. This is especially true if your ancestors were Irish. However, you shouldn't completely dismiss this avenue. If census records indicate that your ancestor owned his house, then you will need to find out what happened to this property upon his demise. Did it pass to his wife? Or maybe his brother? Was he able to leave a small sum of inheritance for his children? Maybe upon his death, you learn that there were back taxes owed on the house. Did the state take it over or were his heirs able to come up with the money? Some probate records will indicate a place of origin in the old country. This is especially true if your ancestor owned land in the old country. Maybe his parents left him land? Most probate records are indexed and can be found at the county courthouse. The LDS has some older probate records, as does the New York State Archives.

I get these messages regularly but mine are not pop up- they come directly to my mail address. The messages I get are Korean. Also, many other messages for questionable products, investment deals, etc., plus pornography. . Mine started arriving after Yahoo started bombarding their subscribers. Yes, they offered a way to opt out but when I try to access the site I cannot get to the option page. Other members of a Yahoo list are having the same problem. Resigning from the list does not stop it. Apparently one has to take on a new email address and not be involved in any lists with Yahoo.. Cindy

Tracy, Yes, I, also, am getting the pop-up message to download those crazy Chinese characters! Shannah ----- Original Message ----- From: <GaelEire@aol.com> To: <IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 6:32 PM Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Admin Note - Important > Would anyone who has been receiving either blank list messages or messages > that contain symbols or jibberish, please contact me off list. Both Jim and > I are experiencing problems with the content of the list mail, and we'd like > to see if it's our server or a more widespread problem. > > Thank you for your help! > Take care, > Tracy > > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY list admin > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send an email with "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) to either: > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L-request@rootsweb.com (List Version) > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-D-request@rootsweb.com (Digest Version) > You can also unsubscribe from the website: > http://www.irishinnyc.freeservers.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >