Greetings All. For those who have tried to access the Post 1901 Census Project website today, and have been unable to do so, it appears that there are server problems that are preventing access. Upgrades were made to the servers this past weekend and for awhile a similar situation existed. It was thought that the problems were rectified, but they have apparently re-occured. This problem may exist until Rick Roberts returns from a trip to Ottawa on Monday. Attempts are being made to contact someone else at Global who might be able to rectify the problem but so far no luck in this. Websites that are affected and not accessible are: Global Genealogy & History Shoppe http://globalgenealogy.com The Global Gazette, Canada's Online Family History Magazine http://globalgazette.net Global Heritage Press http://globalheritagepress.com The Post-1901 Census Project (Canada) http://globalgenealogy.com/Census The Lanark County Genealogical Society (Ontario, Canada) http://globalgenealogy.com/LCGS There have recently been a number of problems on the Internet. This past Monday morning the whole of British Columbia was down for awhile. Many other areas have seemed to be very slow in responding at times. It is frustrating, but it is something we appear to have to live with if we want to use the Net. Please have a little patience. The Post 1901 Census Project website will be accessible again, as will the other sites. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

HI Who was looking for info on the Donnelley's ? Bob MCDonald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yvonne" <yvonne1@catskill.net> To: <IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] 19th Ward RC Church > Thank you Robert for trying to help. > Yvonne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Fitzsimmons" <rvf5@voyager.net> > To: <IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 2:20 PM > Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] 19th Ward RC Church > > > > > > > > Sorry Yvonne > > > > Most of the names are Irish but no Donnellys. This was just the program > > from one show in 1923 so it was pretty narrow. I remember that a man > > named Rowan was the director and his family moved to the Adirondacks. > > Last I knew his daughter in law was still alive, maybe she has some > > insights.I can check through mutual friends > > > > slainte > > sheila > > > > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > > Mark your calendar for the 11th annual Genealogy and Technology (GENTECH) > conference - Digital Technology...The Ancestral Frontier - in Phoenix, > Arizona on January 17-18, 2003. For the latest information, please visit the > website regularly: http://www.gentech.org > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > Adopt a US County list > http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/adoptable/ > Adopt a Surname list > http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/adoptable/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Thank you Peggy. I'm beginning to think my Granddaddy didn't have any ancestors. I appreciate you answering me. Linda Fay

Hi Linda... Sorry to tell you, but I have no information on the Leonards, except that my husband's Gr.Grandfather came from German to Brooklyn, NY. Unfortunately, my husband died (while we were in the process of divorcing) and any information died with him. His name was William Leonard, as was his father's. He had an Uncle John Leonard, and an Aunt Marion Leonard Sweeney. I did ask "Uncle Johnny" once about their ancestors, but he couldn't tell me anything, except one of them...he didn't know which came from Toum in Ireland. I don't know if he meant Toum in Galway or Wexford, which are on opposite coasts. Sorry I couldn't be of more help to you, Peggy Leonard/NYC

Hello List I am new to this list, here are some of my Irish names. that I am trying to find. SULLIVAN,BARCLAY,BEVAN,FLYNN,QUINN, DAILY,MARLEY,MORLEY,KEATING,CARROLL, BOYLAN,FLAHERTY,SCULLY,WRIGHT,DAVY. GURNEY,WALKER,CULLUM,ABEL,PETERS.LYNCH, OCONNER. All my records came from New Jersey & New York.And from family members. As I receive records I have sent for, I keep adding more names to my list. I would be greatful for any suggestions as to where to look for more information on these family names. Right now I am in Ireland & England searching. Warm Regards Victoria Barclay Strauch Minnesota

Hi folks, I am looking for any record for the parents of Thomas F. Magee, born in NY in 1854.I don't know his religion, but I think he was probably Catholic.Any help woould be appreciated. Loraine

Peggy, I am new to this site, hoping to find something about my Grandparents. We are having an awful time. I saw where your last name is Leonard. Is that your married name? My Maternal Grandfather was Edward Paul Leonard. My Maternal Grandmother was Ida (Mecey) Leonard. My Paternal Grandfather was Irish and Scottish. James Beard. My Paternal Grandmother was English and possibly some Irish. Mattie (Strickland) Beard. We have her back to 1799 in North Carolina, where her ancestors had come from England. Do you know if any of your Leonard's came to Missouri? Would appreciate anything you could tell us. My brother and I have been working on this for a while, and having an awful time with the Leonard's. Thank you for your time. Linda Fay (Beard) Gibson

Greetings All. Thanks to new Canada Census Committe member for Ontario, Sharleine Haycock, there is one less Red X on the Scoreboard for Members of Parliament. A letter received from MP Carolyn Parrish in response to one from Sharleine has taken Ms. Parrish from a position of opposition to one of sitting on the fence. Ms. Parrish's assistant advised that while she does not intend to be an advocate for access to Historic Census records she will approach any vote on the issue with an open mind. Scoreboard Totals currently stand at Members of Parliament For 161 Against 4 Non-committal 60 No answer 74 Senators For 34 Against 3 Non-committal 18 No answer 42 Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

Dear Peggy: Could you give me the site? I am basically researching Collins but just came into a treasure trove of old, old family letters and discover there is also Ryan, O'Brien, and Eno. The Ryan and Collins side is from Cork and the other names are British although one branch of the Collins family did go to England in the late 1800's. Many thanks. And, of course, if any of these names match with any of yours, would you please let me know? Thanks. L. PLeon112@aol.com wrote: > Larry.....hi > > I went to your site, and took the link to Origins, where I posted my main > surname interest. All my own records came up. > I don't know how they got there, and it isn't a problem, except that a lot of > those records are old, and some are incorrect. They were original records, > taken from Church indexes. My subsequent records are transcribed from > microfilms of the original handwritten ledgers. > Just thought you should know. I've contacted the site, to ask them to > include a footnote to that effect. I don't mind my email address added, so > anyone can "double check" before they take the info as "Gospel". > > Thanks, > Peggy Leonard > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > Please don't flame anyone on the list. If you do, you will be unsubscribed. If you are flamed, please contact the list admin privately. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Larry.....hi I went to your site, and took the link to Origins, where I posted my main surname interest. All my own records came up. I don't know how they got there, and it isn't a problem, except that a lot of those records are old, and some are incorrect. They were original records, taken from Church indexes. My subsequent records are transcribed from microfilms of the original handwritten ledgers. Just thought you should know. I've contacted the site, to ask them to include a footnote to that effect. I don't mind my email address added, so anyone can "double check" before they take the info as "Gospel". Thanks, Peggy Leonard

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2001 - the Year of the Volunteer Many will be aware that the year 2001 was designated as a worldwide "Year of the Volunteer". Few are aware, however, that your co-chairs of the Canada Census Committee, Muriel M. Davidson and myself, were honoured, through the sponsorship of Senator Lorna Milne, to receive a beautiful Certificate and a pewter Medal that commemorated our volunteer efforts related to the Canada Census campaign. Each Member of Parliament, and each Senator of Canada were given ten of these Certificates bound in an imitation leather folder (Green for the House of Commons and Red for the Senate) to distribute to those they felt had contributed significantly in various areas of volunteerism. Approximately 4,000 Medals, having the same "Year of the Volunteer" logo shown on the reverse side of Canada's 2001 dime, were struck by Canada's Mint. They will never be struck again. Considering that Canada's population is more than 32 million people, to be one of approximately 4,000 being recognized by presentation of these Certificates and Medals is an extraordinary, and probably once in a lifetime, honour. My Certificate and Medal were presented to me by Member of Parliament Hedy Fry in December 2001 at a ceremony she held for presentations to those volunteers she was honouring. The Certificate reads: Presented to Gordon Watts in this Year of the Volunteer for his dedication to the cause of Public Access to the Historic Census of Canada And for his hours of work in that cause as Co-Chair of the Canada Census Campaign Presented on behalf of The Honourable Lorna Milne, Senator December, 2001 While Muriel Davidson was aware earlier that she would receive her Certificate and Medal, Susan Fennell, Mayor of the city of Brampton, Ontario, did not officially present it to her until March of 2002. Muriel received her award during opening ceremonies for a ward of the Brampton Memorial Hospital where she has also been a volunteer. Muriel' s Certificate included a list of many other volunteer activities with which she has been involved over the years. For those interested, scans of my Certificate and Medal will be included in my next Global Genealogy column. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

Our legal case is progressing more or less as expected, although we have modified our Application slightly. Our original Application sought only to have the Court make an Order "compelling the Chief Statistician to transfer the nominal returns and schedules of the 1906 Census of the Provinces of Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta to the National Archivist, and, further and in the alternative, for an Order directing, or alternatively permitting, the National Archivist to make this information available to the public for research purposes". The modification to our Application seeks further, and in the alternative, Declarations: (a) that the National Archivist, and not the Chief Statistician, has care and control of the records from the 1906 Census; (b) in the alternative, if, contrary to the Applicants submission, the Chief Statistician does have care and control of the records from the 1906 Census, then Chief Statistician is under a legal obligation to transfer control of these records to the National Archivist; (c) further, upon being declared to be in care or control of the records from the 1906 Census or upon being transferred control of such records, the National Archivist has the power to disclose this information to members of the public upon request for research purposes. In order to amend our Application to include a request for Declaratory Relief and to extend the time limit for us to file our Applicants' Record we required the agreement of parties on the other side. The lawyer for the Privacy Commissioner consented right away. The Justice Department, on behalf of the Attorney General, National Archivist and Chief Statistician took longer to state they "do not oppose" our application. Not opposing the application is not quite the same as consenting to it. The Prothonotary (don't ask - that is the term Lois used) will now consider our written application and presumably grant it promptly since it is unopposed. As of 12 September our Applicants' Record was ready to go except for the copying and binding. The key part of our Record is the written argument. The Respondents then have to file their Respondent's Record with their written argument. Lois will then requisition a Hearing. If there are no more unexpected delays, she hopes the hearing will be before Christmas. This will not be like a trial since all the evidence is in the Affidavits. There will be no witnesses. Lawyers will present oral argument and be quizzed by the Federal Court Judge. This will take place in Calgary and be open to the public. The Federal Court rooms in Calgary are not all that big and crowds cannot be accommodated. Legal arguments are not terribly interesting to non-lawyers, however, other circumstances being considered, I have hopes that I will be able to be in Calgary to observe the proceedings. Happy Hunting Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

Do you ever "connect" to an ancestor or two... for reasons you sometimes can't explain? I have that unexplained but special connection with a few of my ancestors, including one who was a member of the NY Police Department from 1902 - 1925. I am hoping to fill in some of the gaps in his life history by obtaining what information I can. Perhaps you can help by doing an OBIT lookup?? DATE: September 12, 1952. ***** THANKS ***** James E. HAYDEN Born: January 17, 1876 in New York Parents: Mary HOWE & Edward HAYDEN of Ireland Wife: Clara (of Norway) Children: Bertha (born NY @ 1906) Alfred (born NY @ 1907) Address: 4537 Richardson Avenue, Bronx NY -- 1920 Census -- 1925 Pension Records Entry into NYPD: June 14, 1902 (Age 26) Retirement Date: October 29, 1925 (Age 49) Died: September 12, 1952 4537 Richardson Avenue, Bronx NY Next of Kin: Lillian M.

Greetings All. On 24 August I posted a message regarding Prime Minister Jean Chretien's announcement that he would not seek re-election for another term. With his comment that he would spend the next 18 months tending to the business of government it was felt that we could expect some stability in government and that we would not likely be facing a snap election that would interrupt our Census campaign and require us to start over once again with another new government. It would appear that I spoke too soon. We have seen no evidence of an election in the offing. However............. Last week it was announced that Parliament would not resume sitting until 30 September. Our sources in Ottawa advise it is expected that shortly after, the current Session of Parliament will be prorogued and a new Session started so that the Queen, on her visit to Canada in October, might present a Speech from the Throne. Should this proroguing of Parliament take place you might ask what effect this will have on our efforts to regain public access to Historic Census records? The effect is that all unfinished business from the prorogued Session will cease to exist. All Bills and Motions - government or private members - that have not been fully processed and completed, end up in the dumper. This includes Bill S-12, Senator Lorna Milne's Bill on access to Census, that we expected to achieve third reading in the Senate shortly after Parliament resumed sitting after the summer recess. It is expected that both Senator Milne, and MP Murray Calder will re-introduce their respective Bills in the Senate and the House of Commons. This would be a second chance for Murray Calder's Bill which was deemed non-votable and received only one hour of debate in the House before being dropped from the Order Paper. However both Bills would be starting from square one, having to go through first reading and all other steps that they had been subjected to previously. It means that the Bills, when represented, will have new numbers. It means more time and further delays before we achieve what we seek. This would be the third time that our Bills have had to start from scratch. With a new start we must renew our efforts to gain the support of those elected and appointed representatives who have not responded to our questions. We urge all to check the position of their own representatives on the MP and Senator Scoreboards on the Post 1901 Census Project website at the URL following my signature. Send letters to them, either thanking them for the support they have already expressed, or seeking support from those who have not given a definitive answer to our questions (i.e. fence-sitters or no response). If you have, or receive, a response that differs from the position shown for your representative, please forward a copy to me so that I might update the Scoreboards. We must also renew our efforts in collecting signatures on petitions. Not having had an election we are not starting over again on petitions, but we need to continue with efforts to obtain new signatures. So far we have sent more than 55,000 signatures to Ottawa, however with a population of Canada in excess of 32 million, there remains a great many people interested in genealogy and history that have not yet signed a petition. I am currently holding approximately 2000 signatures for the House of Commons and Muriel Davidson is holding a similar number for the Senate. We will be submitting these as soon as we know for sure that the current Session of Parliament has been prorogued and a new Session started. Some may question the effectiveness of our petitions and the need to continue collecting signatures, saying that having already sent more than 55,000 signatures, adding to these numbers will have little additional effect. The fact of the matter is, however, that numbers of signatures on petitions is the ONLY tangible, visible, evidence we have to show that genealogists and historians seek to regain public access to Post 1901 Census records. Presentation of petitions in the House of Commons and the Senate, showing the numbers of signatures received, is permanently recorded in Hansard, showing for all time that we seek these vital records. Letters and email to MPs, Senators and other officials are very necessary. They may, in fact, outnumber the number of signatures on petitions. However, we do not have any means of knowing the numbers of letters and email sent and so cannot point to them, as we can with petitions, as proof of our desire for access. Do not give up hope. We may have come to another snag in our efforts to regain public access to Post 1901 Census records. There is no question, however, that with the help of all we will achive that goal. It will just take a little longer to do so. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

In checking out some Irish baptism records on FamilySearch.org they print out with the initials D.E.D. in each record - does anyone know what this means?

St. Patrick's Old Cathedral 263 Mulberry Street New York, New York 10012 212-226-8075 Cost per search - $15.00 Hope this helps, Marge Duffy Virgulak Jesus, A Never Ending Friend De nobis fabula narratur, their story is our story. Beannachtai agus Siochain "Cuimhnig'ar 'Ar Sinnsir" - Remember Our Ancestors An Irish Blessing May God grant you always A sunbeam to warm you A moonbeam to charm you A sheltering angel So nothing can harm you Laughter to cheer you Faithful friends near you And whenever you pray Heaven to hear you.

Could you please give me the address for Old St. Pat's. and the fee for a marriage certificate. I think my ggrandparent were married there also. Your help would be appreciated. Thank you, Pat

Can anyone explain to me how Hawksford and Ballaghadereen are related. Is Hawksford owned bt Ballaghadereen or is Hawksford a neighborhood in Ballaghadereen? Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: <IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 5:00 AM Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-D Digest V02 #272

Loved the story, as they say, "You gotta love the Irish". Betty Lou ----- Original Message ----- From: lcady8 Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:22 PM To: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Fw: Fw: {SPAM?} Fw: Potatos ----- Original Message ----- From: "gerry cady" > >Subject: Potatos > > > > > > > > > >This has potential..... > > > >An old man lived alone in Ireland. He wanted to spade his potato garden, > >but > >it was very hard work. His only son, who would have helped him, was in Long > >Kesh Prison. The old man wrote a letter to his son and mentioned his > >predicament. Shortly after sending the letter, the father received this > >reply, "For HEAVEN'S SAKE Dad, don't dig up that garden. That's where I > >buried the GUNS!" > > > >At 4 A.M. the next morning, a dozen British soldiers showed up with shovels > >and dug up the entire garden. They found no munitions. Confused, the old > >man > >wrote another note to his son telling him what happened. > > > >His son's reply was: "Best I could do from here. Now plant your potatoes." > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== Please keep your anti-virus software up-to-date and run frequent scans! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237