You are so right!! What a wonderful St. Patrick's Day Gift!! I was wondering if I would ever get a chance to look at them....what a fantastic surprise to find my family, it supported the data I have collected and made me feel I am on the right track... If you need a someone to do a look up, I shall be glad to...I would considered it a way of paying back all the folks who have done kindness to me! Diane K.

Well, here is another St. Pat's Day gift! The "Missing Friends" data base is now on line compliments of Boston College: http://infowanted.bc.edu/ "From October 1831 through October 1921, the Boston Pilot newspaper printed a "Missing Friends" column with advertisements from people looking for "lost" friends and relatives who had emigrated from Ireland to the United States. This extraordinary collection of more than 31,438 records is available here as a searchable online database, which contains a text record for each ad that appeared in the Pilot." Diane Shaw St. Louis, MO

Cathy: Thanks so much for letting us know about this addition. As everyone on this list knows, I have been trying to get into this set of records for a long time! I have already been in there and discovered a few more possible rellies. They have attached the actual record images. This is a great St. Pat's Day gift. Diane Shaw St. Louis, (Hillsboro) MO Researching Irish New Yorkers: McGOLDRICK, IVORY, McINENLY [email protected] wrote: >Hello, > >Re our discussion recently. Ancestry.com added the Em migrant Savings Bank records to their online collection on March 17. I believe this is a paid site. > >Cathy H. >

Thanks for the info, Elizabeth. I appreciate your help. Nora [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) writes: They support the Celtic Football Club who are based in Glasgow. http://www.celticfc.co.uk/default.asp In a message dated 3/17/2005 6:53:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > > We did see an organization we were unfamiliar with. Perhaps someone can > tell > us about it. It's name was The Glasgow Celtic Supporters Association. > >

Hello, Re our discussion recently. Ancestry.com added the Em migrant Savings Bank records to their online collection on March 17. I believe this is a paid site. Cathy H.

HOW ABOUT "MILLIONAIRE'S ROW" ABOUT YOUNG IRISH IMMIGRANT WOMAN. OUT OF PRINT, BUT AVAILABLE ON AMAZON, ETC.

I've always been a mystery and history lover - most likely most of us are. I think that's part of what makes the search for our ancestors' stories so interesting. I recently came upon a new series of mysteries by Rhys Bowen. They books tell the story of Molly Murphy - starting with her trip over the Ocean to her settlement in NYC. Interesting stuff.

In a message dated 3/17/05, [email protected] writes: > Hi Tracy, (love your name, BTW) :) > > > Did you forget to add on your posting that the winner gets a FREE trip to > Ireland??? LOL > Happy St. Patrick's Day to all. > > > > Kathleen Tracy Only if I can stow away in their luggage! Take care, Tracy IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY list admin http://www.irishinnyc.freeservers.com http://www.inyc.freeservers.com

They support the Celtic Football Club who are based in Glasgow. http://www.celticfc.co.uk/default.asp In a message dated 3/17/2005 6:53:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > > We did see an organization we were unfamiliar with. Perhaps someone can > tell > us about it. It's name was The Glasgow Celtic Supporters Association. > >

Hi all, We went to the parade today but didn't get there until after 1 PM. It wasn't a total loss. We saw our nephew and his girl friend marching with the NYC Parks Dept. but did miss a few other people we knew who were marching like in the NYPD and Manhattan College groups. We did see an organization we were unfamiliar with. Perhaps someone can tell us about it. It's name was The Glasgow Celtic Supporters Association. Since we are moving to NC before the end of summer, we decided to go to the NYC St. Patrick's Day this year. Had a very nice experience in the subway. My husband had one MetroCard and was planning to get one for me when a woman came over to us and explained that the card can be swiped twice so that we didn't need to get a second card as long as there is enough cash on the card. When the cards first came out you couldn't do that. Hope you all had a Happy St. Patrick's Day no matter where you are. Nora Hopkins FitzGerald Hopkins - Castlebar, Co. Mayo/New York City Grant - Drumboniff, Co. Down/NYC

>>> Hi Tracy, (love your name, BTW) :) > Did you forget to add on your posting that the winner gets a FREE trip to Ireland??? LOL Happy St. Patrick's Day to all. > Kathleen Tracy > Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:53:07 EST From: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > Part of original posting: It's time for our annual St. Patrick's Day quiz! So sit back, draw a Guiness, and see how you do! We'll send in the quiz answers on March 18 to give everyone the chance to take it. >>>

Hi, I just joined the list to see if I can get any new info on my husband's Irish ancestors (nice day to start that, eh? *g*). Here's what I have. 1-- Thomas FLANAGAN (b.Ireland?, d.USA?) sp-Mary Ann WOODS (b.Liverpool,England?, d.USA?) (Supposedly married in Liverpool, but I have no date. I also have no info on if Edward had any siblings.) 2-- Edward John FLANAGAN (b.14 Nov 1876-Manhattan; d.1955, buried at St. Raymond's in the Bronx) sp-Emma Augusta HALL (b.10 Dec 1873-New York,New York; d.1951, buried at St. Raymond's in the Bronx) (Married 11 Sep 1900, St. Monica's Church, NYC. Emma is listed as "Emily" on the marriage record.) 3-- Emily FLANAGAN (b.30 Jul 1901; d.1972-Springfield, Massachusetts) (aka Sr. Mary of the Resurrection) 3-- Marian FLANAGAN (b.1903) sp-Fred BRUMM 3-- Alice Irene FLANAGAN (b.1906) sp-Francis MCCONNELL (d.1987) 3-- Edward John FLANAGAN (b.1907) sp-Dotty 3-- Henry Monroe FLANAGAN (b.14 Feb 1910-Ridgefield Park, NJ; d.1997) sp-Dorothy Rita SNYDER (d.1976) 3-- Thomas DeLasalle FLANAGAN (b.20 Jan 1912-probably NYC; d.21 Nov 1985-Pittsfield,Massachusetts) (This is my husband's grandfather) sp-Olga Claudia FLORIO (b.3 Jul 1915-location unk.; d.13 Apr 1993-Albany,New York) 3-- Dorothy Eleanor (Babe) FLANAGAN (b.1915-Bronx,NY; still living) sp-Raymond P. HAYES A note I have on Edward John says that "His first cousins were the Hamiltons and Browns, whose ancestors were of English stock, and probably came from CT. Soloed in many Christian churches and at Carnagie Hall." He and Emma were apparently a very musical family :-). I found a birth record I think is him online at familysearch.org: Edward Flannegan, Male Birth 14 NOV 1876, Manhattan, New York, New York Parents: Thomas Flannegan and Mary Ann Woods However, when I wrote for a birth certificate with that info, it came back that they found no such person. I don't know if they read my note about the spelling difference. Anyone with further info on g-grandfather Edward, his siblings, and his parents, I'd love to hear from you!

It's time for our annual St. Patrick's Day quiz! So sit back, draw a Guiness, and see how you do! We'll send in the quiz answers on March 18 to give everyone the chance to take it. 1. How many Americans today have full or partial Irish ancestry? a. 40 million b. 30 million c. 20 million d. 10 million 2. How many Irish emigrated to the United States between 1845 and 1995? a. 5 million b. 5.5 million c. 6 million d. 6.5 million 3. According to 1870 US Federal Census, two-thirds of all Irish born resided in which area of the country? a. plains states b. midwest c. southeast d. New England & Mid-Atlantic states 4. According to statistics culled from the 1890 US Federal Census, which New York City ward had more Irish born residing in it - the Fourth Ward or the Sixth Ward - "Bloody Sixth"? 5. According to statistics culled from the 1890 US Federal Census, which New York City ward had the most Irish born residing in it? a. 19th Ward b. 6th Ward c. 4th Ward d. 17th Ward 6. According to the Guinness Book of World Records, which American parade is the largest annual parade in the world? a. Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade b. New York's St. Patrick's Day Parade c. Mardi Gras Parade d. Rose Bowl Parade 7. This activity became so problematic every year during NYC's St. Patrick's Day parade, that it was finally made illegal in the 1800s. What was it? a. drinking b. throwing stones at the marchers c. paddy making 8. In what year did the Fighting 69th become the official escorts of the St. Patrick's Day parade? 9. Every year county associations, representing the counties of Ireland, march in the parade. Which county was the first? a. Cork b. Galway c. Mayo d. Monaghan 10. What is known as the 'long green line'? Brain Teaser: This year, we have a hard one! Good luck! 1. NYC's St. Patrick's Day parade always reflects the mood and concerns of the Irish community. There was one year in parade history, where something was specifically prohibited in the parade. This is the only time it happened. What was it?

Saint Patrick "The Apostle of Ireland" Patrick was born in the year 387 AD. His father was Calpornius, a deacon, son of Potitus, a village priest in the town of Bannavem Taburniae. His mother was Conchessa. At age 16, he was captured by Irish marauders and sold into slavery to a chieftan named Milchu in Dalriada, in present day Antrim. For six years, he tended sheep in the valley of Braid and on the slopes of Slemish - near the town of Ballymena. While in captivity, Patrick turned to God for deliverance. One night he fled, and by his own account, travelled 200 miles westward to Britain. Deeply affected by his relationship with God, Patrick went to St. Martin's monastery at Tours. He studied under St. Germain and became a priest. When Germain travelled back to Britain as a missionary, he brought Patrick with him as an assistant. While in Britain, he had a dream: "And there I saw in the night the vision of a man, whose name was Victoricus, coming as it were from Ireland, with countless letters. And he gave me one of them, and I read the opening words of the letter, which were, 'The voice of the Irish'; and as I read the beginning of the letter I thought that at the same moment I heard their voice - they were those beside the Wood of Voclut, which is near the Western Sea - and thus did they cry out as with one mouth: 'We ask thee, boy, come and walk among us once more.' " * Patrick was sent to Ireland by Pope St. Celestine I to convert the Celts to Christiantiy. The previous missionary, Palladius, had failed miserably. In 433 AD, Patrick landed near Wicklow, at the entrance of Skerries Harbor. Off the main shore, there is a rock that is said to bear his footprint - where St. Patrick first set foot on Irish soil. Patrick headed towards Dalriada, to meet his old master, pay his ransom and convert him. Along the journey, he met a chieftain named Dichu, who drew his sword against him. However, his arm became rigid as a statue and he was not able to move until he pleaded allegiance to Patrick. Patrick's missionary work in Ireland was difficult and fraught with danger. He was taken captive twelve times by his own account, and came close to death several times. Yet he persisted. In 444, Daire, the chieftain of the district of Armagh, granted land to Patrick where he could erect a church. This is now the site of the great cathedral of Armagh. When not engaged in missionary work, Patrick spent his free time in prayer. He spent 40 days fasting and praying at the top of Eagle Mountain in a mountain range in Connaught. According to legend, Patrick climbed the Mount of Crom, the holiest os all places to the Celts and home of the pagan god Crom. Upon this mountain top, Patrick wrestled demons for 40 days and nights, some demons taking the form of snakes. Patrick drove these snakes out of Ireland. when he later descended the mountain victorious, the mountain was renamed. This mountain, some 4000 feet in height, would become known as Croagh Patrick - St. Patrick's Mountain. Patrick would consecrate 350 bishops in his lifetime. His work converting the Celts to Christianity had been successful. As his life drew to a close, he had a dream where he was told he would judge the whole Irish race on the last day. St. Patrick died on the 17th of March, 461 AD at Saul (Sabhill) in County Down. He is believed to be interred where the Cathedral of Down presently stands. *From "The Confession" by St. Patrick. Translated from the original latin by Ludwig Bieler. Please be sure to stop by the website of the St. Patrick Centre: http://www.saintpatrickcentre.com/

I'd like to wish everyone a very happy St. Patrick's Day! If you go to the parade, we'd love to hear all about it! I'm sending out the quiz a little early this year, as I'll be away from the computer all day Thursday. Take care, Tracy IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY list leprechaun http://www.irishinnyc.freeservers.com http://www.inyc.freeservers.com

Bill- You're fortunate that this area is well preserved and the building still stands today. The address of 44 Washington Square South is located within the center of NYU-New York University. The building is presently used as The Catholic Center of NYU. However, it is not listed as a official University owned building. Possibly owned by the Roman Catholic Archdiocese? Much of the area surrounding Washington Square is presently owned by NYU and contains buildings with historical significance. An example: Around the corner from Washington Square South is "The Brown Building" located on 23-29 "Washington Place." This is the site of the famous "Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire" of 1911. I believe that NYU now owns this building? Within walking distance from Washington Square is The New York Eye and Ear Infirmary" also of historical significance(rebuilt circa 1864?). Re: the 1894 address of "44 Washington Square South"- 1)Map of NYU Campus with numbered Street Index: nyu.edu/v40extras/nyumap.pdf#search='44%20washington%20square' 2)If you can't access this file directly try the NYU website. I'm certain that the NYU Library or the University's history/architecture departments have info on this building. 3)For locating current street addresses(with present ownership)in NYC try this website: http://uspdr.com/consumer/streetname.asp (for Washington Square click on West Village) However, I was not able to locate 44 Washington Sq.South. Rather nearby buildings. Check to see if can search by ownership(Catholic Church?). susan n.j. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 7:37 PM Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Resident of 44 Washington Square South > Greetings Listers! > Can anyone suggest how I might find out who were the occupants of 44 > Washington Square South, in the Village, in 1894. Our great-grandmother > was > listed as living there on her marriage cert, and I suspect she may have > been > employed as a maid/cook/nanny. I'd like to find out who potential > employers may > have been. Also, does anyone know if this particular location still > exists > today? Thanks in Advance! > > Bill > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > Please keep your anti-virus software up-to-date and run frequent scans! > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Try the NYC Business Directories for the years around 1894 and the 1895 NYC Police Census. Larry G ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 7:37 PM Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Resident of 44 Washington Square South Greetings Listers! Can anyone suggest how I might find out who were the occupants of 44 Washington Square South, in the Village, in 1894. Our great-grandmother was listed as living there on her marriage cert, and I suspect she may have been employed as a maid/cook/nanny. I'd like to find out who potential employers may have been. Also, does anyone know if this particular location still exists today? Thanks in Advance! Bill ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== Please keep your anti-virus software up-to-date and run frequent scans! ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx>

You might be able to find out who owned that house then by doing a title search. Elizabeth Shannon

Greetings Listers! Can anyone suggest how I might find out who were the occupants of 44 Washington Square South, in the Village, in 1894. Our great-grandmother was listed as living there on her marriage cert, and I suspect she may have been employed as a maid/cook/nanny. I'd like to find out who potential employers may have been. Also, does anyone know if this particular location still exists today? Thanks in Advance! Bill

If they were naturalized in NYC - even after 1900, then it might be held at 31 Chambers Street in Manhattan. I found one for my ancestor who was naturalized in 1921. Erin [email protected] wrote: In a message dated 3/7/05, [email protected] writes: > Tracy: > Where does one write to get a copy of a Petition for Naturalization? > Lucy > Hi Lucy, It's going to depend on the time period. Do you already have the index information? If so, just let us know which naturalization index you used. There are several and each one indexes a different microfilm. If the index shows that your ancestor naturalized after 1906, then you will need to go through the National Archives to obtain a copy. If you haven't attempted a search of the naturalization indices yet, I would recommend beginning with this one: WPA Soundex Index to Naturalization Petitions, 1792-1906 This index consists of 294 rolls of microfilm, but it covers all the courts in all 5 boroughs. You can find the microfilm at either the LDS or the New York Public Library. If I remember correctly, the films are chronological by year. Take care, Tracy IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY list admin http://www.irishinnyc.freeservers.com http://www.inyc.freeservers.com ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== To unsub, send an email with "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) to either: [email protected] (List Version) [email protected] (Digest Version) You can also unsubscribe from the website: http://www.irishinnyc.freeservers.com ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!