In a message dated 3/21/05 7:08:38 PM, [email protected] writes: > www.newyorkfamilyhistory.org/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle& > artid=70 > > Thank you so much for linking this article...it helped explain how the bank came about..and THAT is my favorite part of genealogy. HOW my ancestors lived, WHAT were the issues and problems of the day..it makes them become a REAL person...thanks again! Diane K

I would appreciate if the look up is still on, Catherine McCarthy and Thomas Kavanaugh. They would've lived in the Hell's Kitchen part of NYC. Thank you. Marianne [email protected] wrote: > If you would be so kind to look up: > David Hogan married to Elizabeth Wall Hogan > William Gould married to Elizabeth Jones Wilson. > All lived in lower Manhattan. > Thank You > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > If you will be away for a few days, please unsub from the list to keep yourself from bouncing off. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Please look up the following names. They were from Co Fermanagh. Francis A.Clark(e) abt.1870 Patrick Clark(e) abt.1866 Ann Clark(e) abt.1868 Mary Ann Clark(e) 1911 Patrick Murphy 1904 Thank you. Annie

Frank, A google search (occupation cartman census)gives many examples Known children of WILLIAM BRYAN and MARTHA (unknown): 1. Rose Ann born about 1812 Ireland; died 31 Jan 1890 Geneva NY; married before 1845 in Ireland Abraham Thornton as his second wife; born about 1804; died 23 Mar 1869. They migrated to America arriving at New York City 2 Dec 1846 on ship ST. GEORGE with their family which included children from Abraham's prior marriage. Abraham is buried in Washington Street Cemetery, Geneva NY. +2. WILLIAM born about 1825 North Ireland; died between 29 July 1870 and 24 June 1875; his burial place is not known; married SARAH JANE WILSON born 11 May 1833 Scotland; died 8 May 1889; daughter of John Wilson and Sarah (unknown). It is not known if they married in Ireland or if William found romance soon after arriving in America. William worked as a laborer and one of his occupations was as a cartman delivering goods with a horse and cart. Sarah, commonly called Jane, is buried in Glenwood Cemetery, Geneva NY. Sarah left a will dated 23 Feb 1889 recorded in Ontario County, copy attached. By deed dated 10 Oct 1865, Lot 5 and 6 on the north side of Cortland Street, Geneva NY was purchased for $175. Liber 133; P 319. It is a bit mysterious as the deed was executed by only "Jane Bryan" and from the census of 1870, we know that William was still living no 2 extracted example Thomas H Parker Born: 1881 Spouse: Children: Occupation: 1901 Census shows that he was a Cartman for a Grocer. 1881 Census shows that he was 2 months of age, born in Allendale, Northumberland and living in High Stobb, Allendale, Northumberland. 1901 Census shows that he was 20 years of age, born in Allendale, Northumberland and living in Allendale, Northumberland. Regards Patrick -----Original Message----- From: Frank McCullough [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 22 March 2005 15:07 To: [email protected] Subject: [IRISH-NYC] NYC Irish Hello List, Does anyone have a good definition of what exactly a "Cartman" was in the mid 1800s ? Thank You Frank ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== List Administrators: Tracy Cassidy [email protected] Jim McCarthy [email protected] ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Hi Yvonne, I found no information on Winfield S. Brown or John S. Donnelly. I am not sure of the dates you gave me. The bank record at this time only go up to 1883. So nothing from the 1900s is listed. Sorry I could not have been of more help Diane K

Hi Annie, I did not find any of the of the people you were looking for. I found the same names but none were from county Fermanagh and the dates did not match. Please be aware that the books only go up to 1883. So Mary Ann Clark and Patrick Murphy would not have been found based on the dates you gave for their arrival. Sorry I could have been of more help. Diane K

Whenever you may find time, :-) I would appreciate a lookup for the following (or any, for that matter) GILLOONS: Andrew Gilloon, Ann Gilloon, Catherine Gilloon, Margaret Gilloon, Martin Gilloon, Patrick Gilloon. Thank You, Rod in Texas

Hi Dawn, There were several Daniel Daly's. I looked for one who came over around 1847. One arrived in 1850. Here is the information DANIEL DALY (account 30934) Transaction date June 30 1862. Date of birth 1826, born in Mishaumon County Cork. He arrived in 1850 per the "Giddons" (the writing is confusing). He was a junk dealer by trade and lived with his wife Margaret Barry at 406 Water St. He had one child, William Hope this is your Daniel, the others who were listed arrived in the US in1863, 1856, and 1857. Diane K

I have some information on some of the names you listed: No Eileen R. Collins was listed No Mark James Collins was listed BERNARD COLLINS (account 56444) transaction date Dec 17, 1866. Date of Birth 1843. Place of birth Co. Tryone Ireland. Lived at 14 Paster St. (could be Portor) Brooklyn. He was a shoemaker. Arrived per "Matha" looks like the 18bb, could be 1800, or 1866 Not sure AT ALL on the year. Wife is listed as B. Hanarray (?) DANIEL F. COLLINS, when I found this name, I went to the account it referred me to the same account number but under the name DAVID T. COLLINS. I don't know what this means...but this the information on that account Account 69854, date of Transaction Feb 24 1869. Date of Birth 1839, was from Roscommon Ireland. He was a clerk by trade..He lived a Campden ST. in Brooklyn. arrived here in 1866 per "The City of Limmerick", his wife is C. or H. Griffin. I hope some of this is of help to you. Diane K

Attached...attached...no horse attacked... Thank GOD we/I can, tears running down the face, laugh out loud at ourselves. Ro "Rose Mary A. (McGrath) Neal" <[email protected]> wrote: Frank, Cyndi's list said this site was a site to reference for a defination: thefreedictionary.com CARTMEN. Persons who carry goods and merchandise in carts, either for great or short distances, for hire. 2. Cartmen who undertake to carry goods for hire as a common employment, are common carriers. BTW, growing up there was a "ragman" that went through the streets of the city selling rags...my mom called him "the old cartman" and he pushed and sometimes pulled this huge wagon that probably could have been attacked to a horse...but no horses were used. Hope this helps, Ro Frank McCullough wrote: Hello List, Does anyone have a good definition of what exactly a "Cartman" was in the mid 1800s ? Thank You Frank ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== List Administrators: Tracy Cassidy [email protected] Jim McCarthy [email protected] ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== List Administrators: Tracy Cassidy [email protected] Jim McCarthy [email protected] ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

Frank, Cyndi's list said this site was a site to reference for a defination: thefreedictionary.com CARTMEN. Persons who carry goods and merchandise in carts, either for great or short distances, for hire. 2. Cartmen who undertake to carry goods for hire as a common employment, are common carriers. BTW, growing up there was a "ragman" that went through the streets of the city selling rags...my mom called him "the old cartman" and he pushed and sometimes pulled this huge wagon that probably could have been attacked to a horse...but no horses were used. Hope this helps, Ro Frank McCullough <[email protected]> wrote: Hello List, Does anyone have a good definition of what exactly a "Cartman" was in the mid 1800s ? Thank You Frank ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== List Administrators: Tracy Cassidy [email protected] Jim McCarthy [email protected] ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

No Francis Clark from Fermanagh No Patrick Clark from Fermanagh No Ann Clark from Fermanagh As for Mary Ann and Patrick Murphy, the books only span 1850 to 1883 I can only do this one look up as I have to get back to work...so sorry guys. -----Original Message----- From: Annie Nolan <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:59:54 -0000 Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Emigrant Savings Bank Please look up the following names. They were from Co Fermanagh. Francis A.Clark(e) abt.1870 Patrick Clark(e) abt.1866 Ann Clark(e) abt.1868 Mary Ann Clark(e) 1911 Patrick Murphy 1904 Thank you. Annie ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== You can search the list archives by keyword at: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Or you can browse messages chronologically at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Be sure to enter the name of the list! ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Diane, Ok! I give up ; ) Ro [email protected] wrote: I have some information on some of the names you listed: No Eileen R. Collins was listed No Mark James Collins was listed BERNARD COLLINS (account 56444) transaction date Dec 17, 1866. Date of Birth 1843. Place of birth Co. Tryone Ireland. Lived at 14 Paster St. (could be Portor) Brooklyn. He was a shoemaker. Arrived per "Matha" looks like the 18bb, could be 1800, or 1866 Not sure AT ALL on the year. Wife is listed as B. Hanarray (?) DANIEL F. COLLINS, when I found this name, I went to the account it referred me to the same account number but under the name DAVID T. COLLINS. I don't know what this means...but this the information on that account Account 69854, date of Transaction Feb 24 1869. Date of Birth 1839, was from Roscommon Ireland. He was a clerk by trade..He lived a Campden ST. in Brooklyn. arrived here in 1866 per "The City of Limmerick", his wife is C. or H. Griffin. I hope some of this is of help to you. Diane K ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== Please visit the list websites: http://www.irishinnyc.freeservers.com http://www.inyc.freeservers.com They are works in progress. Thank you for your patience! ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

All that I could find among the names you requested; Daniel "F". Collins account # 69854 Index Book 1869 Other accounts with this same number; David "T". Collins # 69854 Transfer, Signature and Test Book, Account opened February 24, 1869, lives on Hampden Street, Brooklyn, is a clerk, birth date 1839, born Roscommon, arrived in U.S. on "City Limerick", wife H. Griffen Bernard A. Collins account # 143948 Index Book - no other information given online Hope this helps, Ro Louise <[email protected]> wrote: I would be grateful if someone would look for the following names: Eileen Ryan Collins Daniel Francis Collins Mark Jerome Collins Bernard Collins they lived in NYC 1861(?) to 1881 Thank you and let me know if there is anything I can do to reciprocate. ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== Please visit the list websites: http://www.irishinnyc.freeservers.com http://www.inyc.freeservers.com They are works in progress. Thank you for your patience! ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Could you look up a Michael Walsh married to Margaret. Lived on lower east side Manhattan. Thanks

I would be grateful if someone would look for the following names: Eileen Ryan Collins Daniel Francis Collins Mark Jerome Collins Bernard Collins they lived in NYC 1861(?) to 1881 Thank you and let me know if there is anything I can do to reciprocate.

ROFL! I suppose its open to debate, but my GGF was a cartman with a team of horses. -----Original Message----- From: Frank McCullough <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:08:58 -0800 Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] NYC Irish I'm not so sure that a horse came into the equation. Frank > From: "Keleher, Pat" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:59:54 -0000 > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [IRISH-NYC] NYC Irish > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:01:01 -0700 > > Frank, > A google search (occupation cartman census)gives many examples > > Known children of WILLIAM BRYAN and MARTHA (unknown): > 1. Rose Ann born about 1812 Ireland; died 31 Jan 1890 Geneva NY; married > before 1845 in Ireland Abraham Thornton as his second wife; born about 1804; > died 23 Mar 1869. They migrated to America arriving at New York City 2 Dec > 1846 on ship ST. GEORGE with their family which included children from > Abraham's prior marriage. Abraham is buried in Washington Street Cemetery, > Geneva NY. > +2. WILLIAM born about 1825 North Ireland; died between 29 July 1870 and 24 > June 1875; his burial place is not known; married SARAH JANE WILSON born 11 > May 1833 Scotland; died 8 May 1889; daughter of John Wilson and Sarah > (unknown). It is not known if they married in Ireland or if William found > romance soon after arriving in America. William worked as a laborer and one > of his occupations was as a cartman delivering goods with a horse and cart. > Sarah, commonly called Jane, is buried in Glenwood Cemetery, Geneva NY. > Sarah left a will dated 23 Feb 1889 recorded in Ontario County, copy > attached. By deed dated 10 Oct 1865, Lot 5 and 6 on the north side of > Cortland Street, Geneva NY was purchased for $175. Liber 133; P 319. It is a > bit mysterious as the deed was executed by only "Jane Bryan" and from the > census of 1870, we know that William was still living > > no 2 extracted example > Thomas H Parker > > Born: 1881 > Spouse: > Children: > > Occupation: 1901 Census shows that he was a Cartman for a Grocer. > 1881 Census shows that he was 2 months of age, born in Allendale, > Northumberland and living in High Stobb, Allendale, Northumberland. > 1901 Census shows that he was 20 years of age, born in Allendale, > Northumberland and living in Allendale, Northumberland. > > Regards Patrick > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Frank McCullough [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 22 March 2005 15:07 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [IRISH-NYC] NYC Irish > > Hello List, > > Does anyone have a good definition of what exactly a "Cartman" was in the > mid 1800s ? > > Thank You > > Frank > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > List Administrators: > Tracy Cassidy [email protected] > Jim McCarthy [email protected] > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > To post a message to the Irish-New-York-City list, please send your email to: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== List Administrators: Tracy Cassidy [email protected] Jim McCarthy [email protected] ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Was the Emigrant bank located in NYC or Brooklyn? Found my greatgrandfather, Patrick Higgins', account listed along with other good information. I would like to try to locate him in the Brooklyn 1865 census record IF the street he lived on (Washington St) was in Brooklyn (there's also one in NYC). Thought that the location of the bank might throw some light on whether he lived in NYC or Brooklyn. Also, need to locate records for the ship he arrived on in 1863, the "Universe". Where is the best place to start looking? I am overjoyed as this family has been a brickwall for many, many years. Pat

Diane, I might be to late for this look up but, Winfield S. BROWN and his wife, Elizabeth BROWN lived in Manhattan in 1910. Their oldest children at that time are Grace (age 20) and Robert (age 18). John S. DONNELLY and his wife, Julia DONNELLY lived in Manhattan in 1900. Their oldest children at that time are John S (age 18) and Edward (age 16). If you have the time I would very much appreciate your help. Thank you. Yvonne

Could you please look up Patrick Lawless.