Hello Irish-New-York-City-List; I am searching for information on PATRICK DOYLE and ANNA MARIE FOLEY who were married in the NEW YORK CITY area in about 1905. Patrick was born in the New York City area in about 1884 or 1885. Anna was born in the same area at about the same time. The PARENTS of both Patrick and Anna migrated to the U.S. from IRELAND and lived in the NEW YORK CITY area. I believe Anna died in New York, (maybe the Bronx) in about 1917. Anna and Patrick are listed in the 1910 U.S. Census, Queens, with 2 children, HELEN, and LILLIAN. Anna later had a third child, MARIE. I would really like to learn all I can about Patrick, Anna, there children and their Parents. They may have been married in the Catholic Church. Birth records, marriage records, Anna's death record would be great. I would appreciate any information on these good people. Thank you. Don Weaver [email protected] PATRICK DOYLE PARENTS of PATRICK DOYLE ANNA MARIE FOLEY PARENTS of ANNA MARIE FOLEY Children of Patrick and Anna Doyle HELEN, b. abt 1907, NYC LILLIAN, b. abt November 1909 NYC MARIE, b. abt 1915 NYC

http://www.hopstop.com/ Just saw this website mentioned on ABC news this morning. It's like mapquest but for the transit system. It tells you what subways to take to get to your destination and even tells you what direction to walk once you exit the station. Just thought it would be good for those genealogists visiting NYC. Liz

Dear Jim, It's really wonderful that you list all these post scripts under your name but they are worth nothing if you don't answer your emails. All the best, Liz In a message dated 4/15/2005 2:51:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > > Jim Garrity > Vice President for Family History, New York Irish History Roundtable > http://www.irishnyhistory.org > > > -- > James Garrity > NYC Genealogy Research Service, Cemetery Research &Photography > http://www.NYCgen.com > http://www.JimGarrity.com > E-mail: [email protected] > Vice-President for Family History and Webmaster, New York Irish History > Roundtable, http://www.irishnyhistory.org > Member, Association of Professional Genealogists > Member, Godfrey Memorial Library, http://www.godfrey.org > >

Just a reminder, folks! The New York Irish History Roundtable is presenting the eighth in its series of all-day genealogy workshops. The 2005 workshop will be held on Saturday, May 7th, 9:30 a.m.-3:30 p.m., at the National Archives and Records Administration in Manhattan. The workshop is open to NYIHR members and everyone else interested in learning how to research their Irish ancestors. With a limit of 50 participants, early registration is suggested. * Trish Little Taylor, a professional librarian and genealogist with extensive experience in Irish-American research in both the USA and Ireland, will speak about research resources in New York City and Ireland. * John Celardo, archivist at NARA, will discuss NARA's extensive onsite and online resources. http://www.archives.gov/northeast/nyc/new_york.html * Thomas J. Kemp, Director of the Godfrey Memorial Library in Middletown, Connecticut, will talk about online research, including the newest resources available to genealogists. http://www.godfrey.org Workshop participants will have an hour to eat lunch, go on a guided tour of the facility, and use NARA's microfilm resources. For more information on this event, please go to: http://www.irishnyhistory.org/workshop A printable registration form is available at: http://irishnyhistory.org/workshopform.pdf The New York Irish History Roundtable, a registered non-profit organization founded in 1984, offers events throughout the year. Jim Garrity Vice President for Family History, New York Irish History Roundtable http://www.irishnyhistory.org -- James Garrity NYC Genealogy Research Service, Cemetery Research & Photography http://www.NYCgen.com http://www.JimGarrity.com E-mail: [email protected] Vice-President for Family History and Webmaster, New York Irish History Roundtable, http://www.irishnyhistory.org Member, Association of Professional Genealogists Member, Godfrey Memorial Library, http://www.godfrey.org

I am looking for a little advice. I now know what happened to my grandmother and her siblings. They were sent to their grandmother's in ireland in 1901 upon their mother's death. They were taken from their father and an uncle came from Ireland to escort them back there. I now do not know how to go about looking for Thomas, their father. Would anyone out there have any suggestions? Nancy

GFA, I'm sure someone has already suggested that there is a strong liklihood the buildings you seek to obtain photographs for today were filmed in 1939-40 by the WPATtax Photo project. For $25 (check returned if they can't find the building photo) you get a picture of what the site looked like almost 70 years ago. Photos are at the Municipal Archives. They have been invaluable to me. Sheila MacAvoy Block

I will be in New York City in the next week or two and will be around the 400 block of West 36th Street. If there is an address in that vicinity, please let me know and I will try to see if I can find the site. L. D. Collins > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > List Administrators: > Tracy Cassidy [email protected] > Jim McCarthy [email protected] > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Randy, Will you do this please? You could take digital pix too. Love, Elizabeth Shannon Walker, Parkinson's Disease Unity Walk 4/16/05 www.UnityWalk.org

On March 25th, I asked if any of my fellow Irish NYers might be strolling past 4 Grove St., 10-1/2 Grove St., 16 Gansevoort St., 224 West 18th St. or 413 West 25th St. and, if so, would they take note of what is standing there today. All were buildings where my grandparents or great-grandparents lived back in the second half of the 19th Century. Two or three kind hearts said they'd do so but I haven't heard from anyone. Still, I'm hopeful. Best Regards, Gfa.

Hi! I just came across a stock certificate for O'Neill & Nolan, Inc. This was my grandfather and I guess a friend. It was issued in 1923. Does anyone know how I can get the documentation that was required to start a business and issue stock during that timeframe? The company was located in Manhattan. Thanks! Barbara PS--Please add my e-mail address to any replies? Thanks! [email protected]

Clark Internment dates Calvary Cemetery,Woodside NY. Elizabeth C.Darcy Clark, 8-31-1906. age abt.42. Arthur Mortimer Clark, 6-6-1907. age abt.10. Raymond Clark, 10-11-1912 age abt.14. Frank Clark, 10-31-1929 age abt.73.(b.Co Fermanagh,Ireland.) Francis A.Clark, 7-30-1937 age abt.42. William Boardman, 10-26-1945 age abt.65. Stella l. Clark, 8-6-1968. age abt.72. Marguerite D.Clark, 2-19-1969 age abt.76. Bessie C.Boardman, 9-29-1973 age abt.89. Francis A.Clark(Frank) born Co Fermanagh,Ireland. Spouse Elizabeth C.Darcy. Bessie C.Boardman,last residence Uniondale Nassau County, Long Island, NY. I am interested in any information anyone may have on this family. Thank you. Annie Nolan.

>>> Jack and Carol, > Just some thoughts off the top of my head . . . Since the James you found, died in 1901, why not try and find him on the 1900 census to see what it says under marriage? If he married again, it should say M2. Of course, there is always the chance that he would 'forget' the first marriage . . . :) and that would put you back a little, but it's worth a shot. > If he is married in 1900, what is the wife's name and are there any children from that marriage? I would then see if she shows up (alone or with kids) on the 1910 census, her death (records, obits, cemetery) to see if there is any other mention of James. Good possibility that she is buried with James. > You state that Mary's burial says that someone else with the same last name of James, paid for her interment. Have you tried to find him in any other way? That might bring up some clues. Good luck! > Kathleen Tracy New Canaan, CT. >original posting: Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 From: Carol McGann [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Subject: Mystery Ancestors > We would like anyone's suggestions or thoughts on where to go next with one of our lines. Mary and James, both born somewhere in Ireland, are found in Westchester Co. in the 1850s, where they had two children. James then disappears from all subsequent records that we have searched so far. Mary, 33, listed as a widow, turns up with their two children in the 1870 Brooklyn census. We have reason to suspect that she was not a widow but listed herself that way, perhaps because of the shame Catholics perceived in broken marriage, and that James actually remarried or at least had children with another woman, also in Brooklyn. We're trying to determine whether a certain James we have located in Brooklyn is the former husband of Mary. His name is right, as are his age and occupation. We have sent for his death certificate from 1901, which could shed some light. Does anyone have any ideas on where else we might look in our efforts to prove that he is/isn't Mary's husband? Mary died in 1885, and she is buried in Holy Cross Cemetery, Brooklyn, her burial paid for by someone with the same last name as James, but there is no James nearby. Thanks. Jack and Carol McGann >>>

Hello to the List: We would like anyone's suggestions or thoughts on where to go next with one of our lines. Mary and James, both born somewhere in Ireland, are found in Westchester Co. in the 1850s, where they had two children. James then disappears from all subsequent records that we have searched so far. Mary, 33, listed as a widow, turns up with their two children in the 1870 Brooklyn census. We have reason to suspect that she was not a widow but listed herself that way, perhaps because of the shame Catholics perceived in broken marriage, and that James actually remarried or at least had children with another woman, also in Brooklyn. We're trying to determine whether a certain James we have located in Brooklyn is the former husband of Mary. His name is right, as are his age and occupation. We have sent for his death certificate from 1901, which could shed some light. Does anyone have any ideas on where else we might look in our efforts to prove that he is/isn't Mary's husband? Mary died in 1885, and she is buried in Holy Cross Cemetery, Brooklyn, her burial paid for by someone with the same last name as James, but there is no James nearby. Thanks. Jack and Carol McGann

Hi there, You might want to check www.familysearch.org , click on search for ancestor, and you can do a parent search by putting just the names of the parents in the inquiry boxes. Good luck! Erin Carol McGann <[email protected]> wrote: Hello to the List: We would like anyone's suggestions or thoughts on where to go next with one of our lines. Mary and James, both born somewhere in Ireland, are found in Westchester Co. in the 1850s, where they had two children. James then disappears from all subsequent records that we have searched so far. Mary, 33, listed as a widow, turns up with their two children in the 1870 Brooklyn census. We have reason to suspect that she was not a widow but listed herself that way, perhaps because of the shame Catholics perceived in broken marriage, and that James actually remarried or at least had children with another woman, also in Brooklyn. We're trying to determine whether a certain James we have located in Brooklyn is the former husband of Mary. His name is right, as are his age and occupation. We have sent for his death certificate from 1901, which could shed some light. Does anyone have any ideas on where else we might look in our efforts to prove that he is/isn't Mary's husband? Mary died in 1885, and she is buried in Holy Cross Cemetery, Brooklyn, her burial paid for by someone with the same last name as James, but there is no James nearby. Thanks. Jack and Carol McGann ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== List Administrators: Tracy Cassidy [email protected] Jim McCarthy [email protected] ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!

There is also an interesting site at http://www.housingauthority.lagcc.cuny.edu/nycha/ The LaGuardia/Wagner Archive of the City Housing Authority. Its been around for a while and used to be easier to search. But if you go to the photographs section and put Al Smith Houses in the search box, you will see a list of references to various streets such as Oak, Catherine, James, etc. These photos werer mostly taken in the 1940s so there should be Tax Photos (taken in 1939-40) held in the Municipal Archives. I have also found streets relating to my ancestors at Brooklyn's Fort Green Housing site in this archive. Sheila MacAvoy Block

I think me Grandparents lived at 472 Grand St .Also earlier (G Grandparents) lived 1 and then 10 Jackson St. I lived on 45 JacksonSt.

In a message dated 3/27/2005 1:56:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > > For my relatives: Type in "Roosevelt Street" and check out some of the > photos > of the neighbor. It is interesting. > > Don McGovern > > > My boss in lower Manhattan in the late 1970's was a man named McGovern who lived in the Bronx. Elizabeth Shannon "To live is to change" John Henry Cardinal Newman

Message forwarded from [email protected] My Irish ancestors, the McGoverns, emigrated to NYC, arriving on the ship Nestorian, on March 9, 1849. This was 6 years before Castle Garden opened and they would have landed at any one of several piers along the East River. Using the city directory I found them living at 125 Roosevelt Street in 1849. They lived there until 1856. Finding a photo of their first home in America seemed like an impossible dream after I found out the area was torn down in the 1940's and replaced with housing projects. Today the Al Smith Housing project sets where my ancestors home once was. Last March I took a trip to NYC, my first trip in about 25 years to NYC. I spent about a half day at the NY Public Library on 42nd Street and my dream of one day seeing a photo of my ancestors home came true. I found a photo in the libraries "Photographic views of New York City, 1870's-1970's". One year later the library has now digitalised the collection. If you have ancestors that lived in NYC this may be your chance to find their first home in America. I am placing a link below to the collection: http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/explore/dgexplore.cfm?topic=all& col_id=219 Type in the name of the street your ancestor lived on (I found out you get better hits by putting the name in quotes) in the search box and you may find alot of photos. Putting the street address in does not work. Here is one of the photos of my ancestors first home: http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/dgkeysearchdetail.cfm?trg=1& strucID=409722&imageID=719921F&word=%22roosevelt%20street%22&s=1&notword=&d=&c=219& f=&lWord=&lField=&sScope=&sLevel=&sLabel=&total=45&num=0&imgs=12&pNum=&pos=9# After going to the link, click on the image to get a closer look. The photo was taken of the intersection of Front and Roosevelt Street. Going up Roosevelt Street on the left is a sloped roof 4 story building. This was a boarding house and tenament building. it was also my McGovern ancestors first home. Not the nicest neighborhood or home, not some place I would want my family to live, but still it was my ancestors home and part of my family history. Here is a better photo: http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/dgkeysearchdetail.cfm?trg=1& strucID=412864&imageID=723061F&word=%22roosevelt%20street%22&s=1&notword=&d=&c=219& f=&lWord=&lField=&sScope=&sLevel=&sLabel=&total=45&num=24&imgs=12&pNum=&pos=25# Both photos were taken in the 1920's before the area was torn down. For my relatives: Type in "Roosevelt Street" and check out some of the photos of the neighbor. It is interesting. Don McGovern

Hello Don, I have found photos to within 2 addresses at this site but not the exact ones I am looking for. Have you checked the Tax Photos from the NYC Records Dept ??? They were taken between 1939 & 1941. Their URL is : http://www.ci.nyc.ny.us/html/records/html/taxphotos/home.shtml If I knew that area was still intact for the photo collection I'd be happy to give them my money. I've spent a lot of money on dead ends at the Records Dept. My ancestors lived on Madison St. around Jackson, Montgomery & Gouvernour. I had others on Water St. and on Monroe. Do you know if the area was redeveloped after 1941 (after the tax photos were taken) or possibly before ??? Here is the URL for the photo of my Family's Neighborhood on NY Digitalgallery http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/dgdisplaylargemeta.cfm?strucID=41 1352&imageID=721550F&word=madison%20street&s=1&notword=&d=&c=&f=&lWord=&lFie ld=&sScope=&sLevel=&sLabel=&num=24&imgs=12&total=684&pos=29 The photo is of 378-382 Madison, and my people were at 374 Madison. So close yet so far... Your neighborhood looked kinda UPTOWN compared to mine. Best wishes. Frank McCullough > From: [email protected] > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 01:55:34 EST > To: [email protected] > Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Fwd: Photos of Ancestors Home - Lower East Side NYC > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:55:31 -0700 > > Message forwarded from [email protected] > > My Irish ancestors, the McGoverns, emigrated to NYC, arriving on the ship > Nestorian, on March 9, 1849. This was 6 years before Castle Garden opened and > they would have landed at any one of several piers along the East River. Using > the city directory I found them living at 125 Roosevelt Street in 1849. They > lived there until 1856. > > Finding a photo of their first home in America seemed like an impossible > dream after I found out the area was torn down in the 1940's and replaced with > housing projects. Today the Al Smith Housing project sets where my ancestors > home once was. Last March I took a trip to NYC, my first trip in about 25 > years > to NYC. I spent about a half day at the NY Public Library on 42nd Street and > my dream of one day seeing a photo of my ancestors home came true. I found a > photo in the libraries "Photographic views of New York City, 1870's-1970's". > One > year later the library has now digitalised the collection. > > If you have ancestors that lived in NYC this may be your chance to find their > first home in America. I am placing a link below to the collection: > > http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/explore/dgexplore.cfm?topic=all& > col_id=219 > > Type in the name of the street your ancestor lived on (I found out you get > better hits by putting the name in quotes) in the search box and you may find > alot of photos. Putting the street address in does not work. > > Here is one of the photos of my ancestors first home: > > http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/dgkeysearchdetail.cfm?trg=1& > strucID=409722&imageID=719921F&word=%22roosevelt%20street%22&s=1&notword=&d=&c > =219& > f=&lWord=&lField=&sScope=&sLevel=&sLabel=&total=45&num=0&imgs=12&pNum=&pos=9# > > After going to the link, click on the image to get a closer look. The photo > was taken of the intersection of Front and Roosevelt Street. Going up > Roosevelt > Street on the left is a sloped roof 4 story building. This was a boarding > house and tenament building. it was also my McGovern ancestors first home. Not > the nicest neighborhood or home, not some place I would want my family to > live, > but still it was my ancestors home and part of my family history. > > Here is a better photo: > > http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/dgkeysearchdetail.cfm?trg=1& > strucID=412864&imageID=723061F&word=%22roosevelt%20street%22&s=1&notword=&d=&c > =219& > f=&lWord=&lField=&sScope=&sLevel=&sLabel=&total=45&num=24&imgs=12&pNum=&pos= 25> # > > Both photos were taken in the 1920's before the area was torn down. > > For my relatives: Type in "Roosevelt Street" and check out some of the photos > of the neighbor. It is interesting. > > Don McGovern > > > > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > If you will be away for a few days, please unsub from the list to keep > yourself from bouncing off. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >