Hi Barb, Unfortunately I don't know if any of those Peter Magee/McGees are mine. I noticed that the Emigrant Savings Bank took down information such as the account holder's county of origin and ship and year that they arrived, etc. My gggrandfather, Henry McGee, posted two ads in the Boston Pilot searching for his 7yr.old daughter, Anne, who was supposed to have arrived with another family. He listed Peter Magee, whose address was 39th & 9th, as the contact person. Peter Magee was marked down as being an uncle to Anne and would therefore be Henry's brother and the info in Peter Magee/McGee's Emigrant Savings Bank account would then become very useful to me. Thanks very much for the directory listings though. Clare Whitney ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Emigrant Savings Bank > Hi Clare, > Are any of these yours? > Do you have any idea what his profession was there will be plenty of > Peters > on Emigrant? > Barb > > The Brooklyn, New York City Directory for 1859-1860. Brooklyn: J. Lain & > Co., > 1859. > Magee Peter, laborer, h. r. E. Warren n. Neviun > Trow's New York, New York City Directory for 1864. New York: John F. Trow, > 1864. > Magee Bridget, wid. Peter, h W. 54th n Tenth av. > The Brooklyn, New York City Directory for 1859-1860. Brooklyn: J. Lain & > Co., > 1859. > McGee Peter, paver, h. Vanderbilt av. n. Flushing > Trow's New York, New York City Directory for 1859-60. Compiled by H. > Wilson. > New York: John F. Trow, 1859. > McGee Peter, laborer, h 5 Congress, pl. > Trow's New York, New York City Directory for 1859-60. Compiled by H. > Wilson. > New York: John F. Trow, 1859. > > [email protected] writes: >> Are people on the list still doing lookups? If so, I would appreciate a >> lookup for Peter Magee or McGee who was in New York City in 1847 and had >> a >> contact address at 39th & 9th. Thank you very much. >> >> Clare Whitney > > > > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > If you will be away for a few days, please unsub from the list to keep > yourself from bouncing off. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Hi Clare, Are any of these yours? Do you have any idea what his profession was there will be plenty of Peters on Emigrant? Barb The Brooklyn, New York City Directory for 1859-1860. Brooklyn: J. Lain & Co., 1859. Magee Peter, laborer, h. r. E. Warren n. Neviun Trow's New York, New York City Directory for 1864. New York: John F. Trow, 1864. Magee Bridget, wid. Peter, h W. 54th n Tenth av. The Brooklyn, New York City Directory for 1859-1860. Brooklyn: J. Lain & Co., 1859. McGee Peter, paver, h. Vanderbilt av. n. Flushing Trow's New York, New York City Directory for 1859-60. Compiled by H. Wilson. New York: John F. Trow, 1859. McGee Peter, laborer, h 5 Congress, pl. Trow's New York, New York City Directory for 1859-60. Compiled by H. Wilson. New York: John F. Trow, 1859. [email protected] writes: > Are people on the list still doing lookups? If so, I would appreciate a > lookup for Peter Magee or McGee who was in New York City in 1847 and had a > contact address at 39th & 9th. Thank you very much. > > Clare Whitney

Are people on the list still doing lookups? If so, I would appreciate a lookup for Peter Magee or McGee who was in New York City in 1847 and had a contact address at 39th & 9th. Thank you very much. Clare Whitney

Please include me in on this list, Marge. Genie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 9:00 AM Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-D Digest V05 #123

Replied off list. Maureen On 5/16/05, Marge <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Lisr Members, > > Does anyone have access to the books > "Lists of Irish Immigrants arriving The Port of New York 1847-1848" also > 1848-1849 > > My grgr grandparents John and Bridget Burns with their son James arrived > in 1848. I am trying to find out what ship they came on. > > If anyone could help me locate this information, it would be very much > appreciated. Thanking you in advance. > > Marge > from NJ >

Hi Lisr Members, Does anyone have access to the books "Lists of Irish Immigrants arriving The Port of New York 1847-1848" also 1848-1849 My grgr grandparents John and Bridget Burns with their son James arrived in 1848. I am trying to find out what ship they came on. If anyone could help me locate this information, it would be very much appreciated. Thanking you in advance. Marge from NJ

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The City of New York is having a huge pier build to accommodate the QE2, Queen Mary and four Carnival ships. Red Hook is returning to it's upscale glamour it had in the 1920's. Vince

I have a Certificate of Marriage, Visitation Church, 98 Richard Street, Brooklyn, NY for William Walsh and Catherine Doherty, married on the 5th day of March, 1911 by Rev. John B. Gorman in the presence of Hubert Smith and Margaret Doherty. These people are not my relatives. Anyone whose relatives there are should contact me for this certificate. Vince

In looking for a relative named Patrick J. Broderick, I have received 2 marriage certificates that do not apply to my Patrick. Here is the information contained in each. If you would like a scanned copy of either, please contact me at [email protected] 1. Cert # 17487 City of New York, State of New York 25 August 1909, Annunciation Church, Manhattan, NY by John J McCahill, Catholic Clergyman, 88 Convant Ave. Groom: Patrick J. Broderick Residence: 2388 2nd Ave, NY, NY Age: 40 Status: Widower Occupation: RR Inspector Birthplace: Ballyduff, Ireland Father: Patrick Mother: Catherine Doolin Number of marriages: 2 Bride: Mary A. Conroy Residence 1495 (unsure of street) Age: 38 Status: Single Birthplace: Cloneslee (best guess because of handwriting), Ireland Father: John Conroy Mother: Elizabeth Dunn Witnesses: Thomas J Doolan and Julia Egan 2. Cert # 21614 City of New York, State of New York 19 Sept 1912, St Stephens Church, Manhattan, NY by Henry P. Tracy, clergyman, 142 E 29 Groom: Patrick Broderick Residence: 153 E 48 Age: 29 Status: Single Occupation: Fireman Birthplace: Ireland Father: John Mother: Brigid Maloney Number of marriages: first Bride: Margaret O'Donnell Residence 147 E 31 Age: 26 Status: Single Birthplace: Ireland Father: Miles Mother: Mary Brogan Witnesses: Timothy Broderick and Lena O'Donnell Regards, Linda Jackson

Thanks Frank. I appreciate your help reading the bank records. Hopefully now I'll find them in Ireland! :-) Barbara

Hi, Barb---sorry we won't be seeing you later today at the NYIHR Workshop.... I can't believe that I'm up this early!! Waaaah! TTYL, Jim G. -- James Garrity NYC Genealogy Research Service, Cemetery Research & Photography www.NYCgen.com www.JimGarrity.com E-mail: [email protected] Vice-President for Family History and Webmaster, New York Irish History Roundtable, www.irishnyhistory.org Member, Association of Professional Genealogists Member, Godfrey Memorial Library, www.godfrey.org

Hi! Thanks to Liz and Diane for their help with the Emigrant Bank records. I'm still trying to read the entries on Acct no. 7357, July 6, 1854. Robert McDowell gives his place of birth as "Native of Thornhill 3 miles from Edgeworthstown, Cty Longford." I think it next says his father is dead. The next line lists names but I'm not sure who is named. I think it reads "John, Mar__, Ellen Cody is married to Eliza Byrne 28?" He's a porter at No 7 somewhere. Liz also found his actual bank account records. Thanks! Barbara

I am beginning to sound like the letter writing queen of CAtholic churches in Manhattan. Have received records from St. May's too. Important point for all to understand: the people assigned to do these searches, are often not native speakers of English. English is often their second language, so they do not imagine alternative spellings or "read into" old cursive. I recommed: l- Calling the church ahead of time to find out availability of records, correct person to contact, and if there is an exact fee. This saves time and aggravation. 2- Type your letter as simply as possible. Make it more like a list eg, type of record requestsed, approx date, names and alternative spellings. 3-Include your name, mailing address and phone number. I have been phone by a Church more times than not. 4-Include a self addressed stamped envelope. 5- Include a check and address it to the research person. 6- Be nice. Thank them etc. Barb > I've requested searches at approx. 7 RC Churches in Manhattan & the Bronx. > I've only had a real problem with 1...St. Mary's on the Lower East Side. > They got me the info I was looking for but it took 3 phone calls and about 7 > > months. > > Something I do that I think helps, is make a donation to the church with the > > request. This is of course a "no strings attached" donation and I make it > clear I'll pay additional if they find my records and request additional > payment. > > I believe it is an inducement to them to make my search and of course as a > donation it is tax deductible to me. > > If you request something from the Archives Office NYC, you have to pay > whether they find a record or not. Many of the people doing the searches at > the church are volunteers doing many things besides looking through the > registers. Keep in mind, many of these parishes are quite poor & can use the > > money. > > Frank McCullough > Calif. >

Message forwarded from [email protected] Hi Barbara, Looks like...Robert McDowell lived on 10th St between 2nd & 3rd Ave. Was a: Porter Born: 1812 From: Longford (clombroney ?) was probably the town Married to: Eliz. Burnie (?) Arrived: 1841 per (almost looks like "Artmaker") Also on the account was: Charles McDowell (probably his brother) Lives in South Brooklyn Laborer Born 1816 County Longford Arrived 1861 (67) per North America Married to Catherine Soden That's as good as I can do... Frank

George, Was your "experience" with the Xaverian Brothers in Brooklyn at Holy Cross or St Michael's? Vince

>Thank you, Sheila Block, for your very, very enlightening description of >the RC Church's attitude toward marriage, pre-1900! It goes a long way >toward explaining why I've had more success finding my great-GrandParents >marriage records in NYC archives than my GPs. My g-GPs were certainly >Protestants, Presbyterians most likely, while my GM was almost as >certainly Catholic and my GF either Protestant or Couldn't-care-less >Christian. Now the search is on for parishes in Manhattan and Brooklyn where, from Census data, I know my GPs lived at various times. Incidentally, Sheila, I'd have to say my own experience suggests the Church's attitude toward marriage extended well into the last Century and may have vestigial traces even today. Circa 1932, my mother, a devout RC from Pennsylvania, wanted to marry my previously married/divorced father in NYC and was rebuffed by the Brooklyn Diocese. She was threatened with ex-communication if she went ahead. Not until Dad discovered he'd been baptized RC but, after his father's [my Couldn't-care-less GF] early death and GM's re-marriage to another P or C-c-l C, had received little or no instruction in The Faith did the Church relent, annulling his first, secular, marriage and allowing them to marry in the Church. At that, it was a no-frills ceremony in the sacristy, a gratuitous disdain that rankled mother unto her final years. Dad C-c-l. And I remember quite clearly the emphasis of nuns, Xaverian brothers and later Jesuits during my schooling in the 1940s and 1950s on the horrors of mixed marriage and all the hoops our putative spouses would have to jump through if we decided to go down that path. As it happened, my first marriage, to another RC, bellied up after just a few years and my second, to a lovely C-c-l P from Ohio, is now in its 36th year. As we say in NYC, go figure. Best to all my fellow co-ethnicists and co-municipalists, George Alexander

Oh whew! Thanks, Barb! I was starting to worry. :) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, 5 May 2005 23:41:14 EDT Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Church Response time You will hear from Transfiguration. I don't recall how long it took, as I wrote to several simultaneously to take my mind off waiting, Barb ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== To unsub, send an email with "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) to either: [email protected] (List Version) [email protected] (Digest Version) You can also unsubscribe from the website: http://www.irishinnyc.freeservers.com ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

You will hear from Transfiguration. I don't recall how long it took, as I wrote to several simultaneously to take my mind off waiting, Barb

Sorry all, I forgot to put who this was for so I am reposting.. Okay I gave it a go and this is what it looks like to me, Account # 30965 was in the names of Robert McDowell and Charles McDowell Robert was born in 1812 in Longford Clombroney Ireland, he arrived in the US in 1844 per "Artmeker or Aetmeher" The spelling is questionable. Robert is a Porter he lived at 10th St between 2nd / 3rd Ave in South Brooklyn.  his wife is Eliz  Bivens (?) and he has 3 children. The transaction date was June 30, 1862. Charles McDowell is a laborer born  1816 in Longford, arrived here in what looks like 1861 per "North America", his wife is Catherine Soden. Based on the record all the McDowells were living together...based on birth years and the same place of birth I would hazzard a guess that they are close relatives. Hope this is of some help. Diane K