I'm researching my wifes, mothers family, HANLEY. Her GGrandfather, Joseph HANLEY, came to America, and married in NYC. His bride was previously married and I have not found out what it was. They had two children that were born in NY, Catherine HANLEY 1863 and Ann 1869. They moved to Cranston, RI, and their son Joseph was born in 1870. Would civil records be created from these births? Where would catholic baptismal records be kept? Thank you...........Roy Michel

I have a couple questions. First, if an Irish Catholic couple wanted to get married in about 1858 to 1863, would they have to apply to the NYC civil authorities for a licence? Second, where would church records be kept? I was just at the local Mormon Family History Center and noticed that not many Irish are listed in city marriage records. Thank you...........Roy Michel

Rose, Who exactly is listed in your book? Which years does it include? Thanks, John -----Original Message----- From: Rose Mary A. (McGrath) Neal [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 2:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [IRISH-NYC] FYI Online Cemetery listing for Holy Cross in Brooklyn, New York I just wanted to let listers know that if I can not find a burial of your ancestor in my Holy Cross Irish born book there is a site you might try; http://interment.net Click New York state, Kings Co. then Cemetery of the Holy Cross. To date there are 387 listings and they are not only Ireland born. Good luck in your searches, Ro ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== List Administrators: Tracy Cassidy [email protected] Jim McCarthy [email protected] ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

In a message dated 5/24/2005 1:03:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Is there a listing of the Irish from New York City who served in any > capacity in the Civil War, and their regiments/units etc.? Where can it be > found? > Genie Try the Fighting 69th on Google.com.

Genie, Have you tried Google? I just tried it. I put: Civil War +New York City + Irish into the search and it returned LOTS of possibilites. Several on the first page, looked very promising. Maureen On 5/24/05, Genie Coats <[email protected]> wrote: > > Is there a listing of the Irish from New York City who served in any > capacity in the Civil War, and their regiments/units etc.? Where can it be > found? > Genie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 11:00 PM > Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-D Digest V05 #124 > > > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > Please don't flame anyone on the list. If you do, you will be unsubbed. If > you are flamed, please contact the list admin privately. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Pat Many thanks for your work. It is much appreciated. Regards Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:11 AM Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Fwd: Re: Irish New York Passengers > Message forwarded from [email protected] > > Hi > > > Don't have access to passenger lists for 1844. > > But, did look for Cappy in US census records. > > Ancestry.com's index for 1850 census did not show a John Cappy. Then, I > looked for those born in Ireland. One family surfaced and they were in > Lockport, in upstate NY: Thomas 44, Mary 36, Catherine 17, Mary 14 - all > born in Ireland, and Michael 1 and Winifred 3 - both born in NY state. > > This family did not appear in the 1860 census index. Since Lockport is > close > the to border with Canada they may have crossed over. > > Then, I checked the Heritage Quest index for 1860. [HQ does not have the > 1850 census online.] Again, no Thomas Cappy family to be found in the US > index. However, there was a John Cappy family living in NY City: John 30 > and Catherine 28, both b. in Ireland, Patrick 12 b. in Scotland, then > James > 9, Mary A 8, Margrit 6, and Thomas 1 - all born in NY. > > FYI, NY City in this case refers to Manhattan Island. This Cappy family > was > in Ward 22, District 1 for New York County [aka Manhattan]. > > Best of good luck! > > Pat Wood > Fircrest, WA USA > **** All outgoing mail scanned by Norton Anti-virus **** > > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > To unsub, send an email with "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) to either: > [email protected] (List Version) > [email protected] (Digest Version) > You can also unsubscribe from the website: > http://www.irishinnyc.freeservers.com > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Genie, Do you mean Northeast Region, New York City, for the National Archives? If that's it, see the following website for all info: http://www.archives.gov/northeast/nyc/new_york.html Hope it helps, Maureen On 5/24/05, Genie Coats <[email protected]> wrote: > > Where are the Archives North located in New York City? > Genie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 11:00 PM > Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-D Digest V05 #124 > > > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > Please keep your anti-virus software up-to-date and run frequent scans! > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com <http://Ancestry.com>'s United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Where are the Archives North located in New York City? Genie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 11:00 PM Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-D Digest V05 #124

Is there a listing of the Irish from New York City who served in any capacity in the Civil War, and their regiments/units etc.? Where can it be found? Genie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 11:00 PM Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-D Digest V05 #124

Hello, I have John McAleer who baptized Mary McNally in 1882 in the Philly area. St. Michael's church regards donna luzzi

I just wanted to let listers know that if I can not find a burial of your ancestor in my Holy Cross Irish born book there is a site you might try; http://interment.net Click New York state, Kings Co. then Cemetery of the Holy Cross. To date there are 387 listings and they are not only Ireland born. Good luck in your searches, Ro

There is a book called Monaghan Madness that is supposed to be helpful. My Mc Philips were from that county too and so far, no luck. Barb

Well said Thomas!! Mary Anne

Hi Rose Mary, I'd be happy to help. That is, providing you buy me a pint for each paragraph that I write. The only problem is that at that rate, you probably wouldn't recognize who it was that I was supposed to be helping you to write about. Of course, we could always end it by saying, "He was lost at sea." T.C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose Mary A. (McGrath) Neal" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 11:53 PM Subject: RE: [IRISH-NYC] HELP !!! > Thomas, > When I can finally write my families life story...Ha! like that day will ever come about...I want to employee you to tell it. Having read your 'tales' before...I must tell you they always make me smile. > Ro > > Mary Anne Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Well said Thomas!! > > > Mary Anne > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > Please don't flame anyone on the list. If you do, you will be unsubbed. If you are flamed, please contact the list admin privately. > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > Please visit the list websites: > http://www.irishinnyc.freeservers.com > http://www.inyc.freeservers.com > They are works in progress. Thank you for your patience! > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hi Marge My Great Grandfather was James McAleer b abt 1847 and I am pretty sure that he had a brother John b abt 1845 and a brother Charles b abt 1856. John & Charles came to live in Belfast. Their father was James McAleer. My Ggrandfather James seems to have been back and forward to the US a couple of times at least in the 1880's and when his twins were born (1882)their birth certificates gave the father's residence as Massachusetts, USA. Occupation "Hackler". I have hunted CofI records looking for births/deaths/marriages but so far have drawn blank. Trouble is I have no information about where in Monaghan so it is a long job! Regards Terry > -----Original Message----- > From: Marge [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 23 May 2005 20:56 > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [IRISH-NYC] McAleer/Maguire > > Hi Terry, > > Odd you mention Monaghan. On a corrected birth record from 1952, it > states George Maguire is from Monaghan, Ire. > This was a birth record of one of his sons. > But story has it both the Maguire and McAleer families came from County > of Monaghan. > > George Maguire was born March 1855 > Ann McAleer was born April 1857 > > George arrived in the US 1860 > Ann arrived in the US 1865 > I don't know where they came in but I have their marriage record of > 1874, Hoboken, NJ. I cannot seem to find either one before this > marriage date. I know both should be in the 1870 Census I think Ann > parents were John and Ann McAleer. > > They lived and died in Hoboken, NJ. My grandmother Annie was their > daughter. > > I wish I could get more information on their lives in Ireland. Did you > ever get help in County of Monaghan. > > Thanks for writing. Marge > > > > > > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > To unsub, send an email with "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) to either: > [email protected] (List Version) > [email protected] (Digest Version) > You can also unsubscribe from the website: > http://www.irishinnyc.freeservers.com > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

As I slipped and stumbled through the darkness I suddenly felt myself falling. That is when I started to panic. I flailed around trying to grasp for anything that might slow my fall and then out of nowhere a hand caught hold of mine and stabilized what I knew would most certainly be my having been swallowed by the vast pit beneath me. My legs began kicking around as I tried to plant my feet on something solid and then suddenly my foot took hold. The hand held fast to my own and I clung to it praying that it would not let go as it drew me up ever so slowly and it enabled me to began to crawl out of what I considered would be my ever lasting tomb. Once I reached solid ground, a sliver of light shone through the walls of the cavern into which I had stumbled. That is when I caught hold of the shadow of the being that had held my hand throughout my whole perilous ordeal. As the words of gratitude began to stammer out of my trembling lips I tried to give thanks as best as I could to that someone who had given me such great assistance and brought me back to what I had thought would be my most certain doom. That is when the shadowy figure turned and began to fade into the darkness that surrounded both of us. As the figure moved away, I saw it's head turn and the words tumbled back to where I was left standing completely exhausted and shaking. "No problem, Mate. Always glad to help a fellow genealogist." Thomas J. Crane Copyright (C) 2005 All rights Reserved

Thanks Tracy... Ro [email protected] wrote: That was so well said Ro! I personally would like to thank the people who selflessly perform lookups on this list. You provide an invaluable service to all of us, and I can't thank you enough. You guys are awesome! I also couldn't agree more that the smallest bit of information can open doors in your research. Sometimes something as seemingly insignificant as what a relative said in passing, can help tumble that brick wall. Or add meat to the bones of your research. I actually began to bring down my own Cassidy brick wall because of something a relative once said that the family never believed. It took me 15 years of genealogy research before I even thought to pursue that avenue, and wouldn't you know, that was the right road to go down! I also love reading everyone's family stories. Please don't feel shy on this list or intimidated. We're a cyber family and a pretty nice list. The Irish are pretty decent people! (So are New Yorkers!) Remember, the only stupid question is the one you never bother to ask. Even if the question has been asked 15 times - if you don't know the answer, ask! We're always happy to help if we can! Ok, I'm off my soapbox! LOL Take care, Tracy IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY list admin http://www.irishinnyc.freeservers.com http://www.inyc.freeservers.com ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== Please keep your anti-virus software up-to-date and run frequent scans! ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Thomas, When I can finally write my families life story...Ha! like that day will ever come about...I want to employee you to tell it. Having read your 'tales' before...I must tell you they always make me smile. Ro Mary Anne Smith <[email protected]> wrote: Well said Thomas!! Mary Anne ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== Please don't flame anyone on the list. If you do, you will be unsubbed. If you are flamed, please contact the list admin privately. ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Hi Gary, With so little information...I checked on Patrick Heffernan...2 came up immediately. One has a wife Mary, arrived in this country in 1859 (looks like) from Co. Tipperary and works as a railroad laborer. The other is a carpenter and arrival date looks like 1850 (writing is very small). Do you happen to have anyother clues regarding Patrick that can help me to help you? FYI...I noted that your surname is close to the spelling of relatives of mine...Ed (living) and Maureen (Mahoney) Hefferon (deceased). Ed lives in Florida and MN. with a 2nd wife. Any possible connection? Ro Gary Heifferon <[email protected]> wrote: Could check the Emigrant Savings Bank for Patrick Heffernan for the period of 1850-1860? Thank you. _________________________________________________________________ Don�t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== To post a message to the Irish-New-York-City list, please send your email to: [email protected] ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

In a message dated 5/22/05 , [email protected] writes: > 556 61st St. was considered Bay Ridge in the 30s. In the 1960s it became > called Sunset Park, although some old-timers still call it Bay Ridge I must be an old-timer, because it will always be Bay Ridge to me! Someone once told me they were from Sunset Park, and I didn't have the faintest idea of the area they were talking about! Take care, Tracy IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY list admin http://www.irishinnyc.freeservers.com http://www.inyc.freeservers.com